Ricky Rubio's Sacramento Visit Reportedly Extended
Sam Amick tweeports that Ricky Rubio will be staying in Sacramento the entire day in order to get those drills in this afternoon and to further meet and greet the Kings personnel this evening. Rubio watched the (predominantly not star-studded) work-out this morning.
Since this all bolsters the surrealness of Rubio's interest in the Kings, it's a good spot to discuss one more theory as to why Rubio's camp has made Sacramento a priority.
We know the hard Rubio math by now. That buy-out will hurt, and NBA rookies make relatively little for four years. Perhaps in our quest to wish Rubio down to No. 4 we are forgetting a beat: the No. 2 pick will make $3.6 million next year. The No. 4 pick will make $2.9 million. In 2010-11, the numbers are $3.9 million and $3.1 million. Over just the first two years of the rookie contract, that's $1.5 million. When Rubio stands to lose a remarkable chunk of change in the buy-out (wherever it ends up), that $1.5 million -- more than $3 million over the four years of the rookie scale contract -- makes a huge difference.
Sacramento's a good fit for Rubio The Player. But there's no doubt Dan Fegan would like to make Sacramento such a good fit the Kings trade with Memphis to get Ricky. Among all teams, it would seem on the surface that Sacramento has the clearest path to the No. 2 pick, what with a high lottery pick of their own, young big men, other picks and a decent expiring contract (Kenny Thomas). Fegan's smart. He knows the situation fully. He knows the best way to get Ricky No. 2 pick money without going to the team picking No. 2 is to make Sacramento -- Petrie, the Maloofs, even Kevin Martin and the fans -- fall head over feet in love with La Pistola.
Maybe this is cynical, or maybe my previous post was too starry-eyed. You decide.
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Holy crap!
Ricky’s staying another night? Quick, somebody open a 2nd restaurant!
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by section214 on Jun 17, 2009 12:53 PM PDT reply actions 5 recs
No need
There’s another “Aioli Bodega Espana” in Davis. But if they take him there, I hope they take a helicopter so he won’t get to see first hand how frustrating it is to drive in Davis.
“Mover la bicicleta, hippie!”
by AnotherStupidSN on Jun 17, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
...and yes
I now plan on including at least one poorly translated English→Spanish phrase in all of mis entradas
by AnotherStupidSN on Jun 17, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
it would be
cool to go to Davis and see Ricky, Geoff, and The Maloofs riding bicycles to dinner.
Booyah!
Amen to that
Driving through downtown D-town is a friggin’ nightmare.
by oldenpolynice on Jun 17, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
What's up with all the Davis hate
It’s an awesome town to live in (expensive though) and very eco-friendly, hence the bikes. Rubio in Davis means I can take my tent down outside Embassy suites and just head home. Come on guys, help me out here
Frog bridge.
There now I've met the 75 word count. -pookeyguru
Sorry man
I don’t hate Davis, I just hate driving there. Plus it’s fun and really easy to pick on Davis, so I hope you don’t mind if I continue to do so.
by AnotherStupidSN on Jun 17, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
UCD is out for the summer
It’s a million times better here now. (That being said it still sucks to drive anywhere).
I
went to go to Watermelon Music downtown on a Thursday to pick something up … a 5 minute thing turned into 35 cause of the damn parking!
Booyah!
+1
People driving 15 MPH + two-lane tunnels to downtown + aggressive pedestrians = suck
But you gotta love Woodstock’s Pizza, dairy cows, Ken O’Brien, and Murder Burger (yes I said murder).
by ttylerbballcamper on Jun 17, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
My sister
is working in UCD as a researcher and she says it’s cool there…Maybe it’s easyer for an European to live in Davis instead of living in some hive city like LA
"Even when I’m old and grey, I won’t be able to play it, but I’ll still love the game." — Michael Jordan
Go Kings!
Not hating on Davis
Just that damned downtown traffic. I work on campus, so I have to drive through it every now and again on my way to lunch. The four-way stops are brutal with all the foot traffic and bikers.
But, yeah, overall Davis is a nice spot.
by oldenpolynice on Jun 17, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I love Davis too
I’ve biked there twice since the beginning of summer, and I love the city.. so much that I want to go to UCD for college.
"Greed is the inventor of injustice as well as the current enforcer." - Julian Casablancas
You must be a Morman
Only Morman’s would love it that much. Oh wait, nevermind, that’s BYU.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 17, 2009 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ha
UCD and BYU are my main options in the college search. Anyone here have an opinion on UCD as a school?
"Greed is the inventor of injustice as well as the current enforcer." - Julian Casablancas
What major?
As a school and town, I love Davis. I got into Berkeley and Davis but I chose Davis because I couldn’t find a student that would say a bad thing about it (that, plus Berkeley wasn’t really my type of town). I’m obviously biased but if there’s anything specific you are wonderin about maybe I could help.
That being said I don’t know much about BYU so I wouldn’t knw what I’m comparing Davis too.
All the UC's are great. I went to UCSD undergrad
In order of prestige:
Berkley, UCLA, UCSD, Davis & Irvine tied, UCSB/UCSC tied, etc. (Merced?). They far exceed the education and prestige of a Cal State School. I know you Sac Staters will retaliate, but it doesn’t make it not so.
In order of campus & lifestyle, I’d probably go LA, Berkley, Davis, SB, SD if you plan on staying on campus. UCSD was super nerdy. But I lived in Pacific Beach and LOVE San Diego, so if you are mobile, I’d go UCLA, SD, Berkley, Davis.
My girlfriend went to Davis and loved it. Bottom line…I don’t think you can go wrong, unless you go to Irvine or Merced. Then, you’re on your own!
"It would be my honor to be your new stepfather."
by PhutureKings on Jun 17, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I resent this!
Irvine as a city is admittedly horrible, but there’s tons of cool places around it. Costa Mesa/Newport Beach/Laguna are all amazing places and only a 10-15 minute drive. There’s also a free shuttle that the school provides that transports students between Newport and campus. The school is def rising in prestige as well as popularity, and our sports are def. improving (we just need a fucking football team). At one point last season our M Volleyball team and Baseball team were ranked #1 in the nation.
Don’t hate unless you know what you’re talking about!
by UCIrvine kings fan on Jun 17, 2009 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I've been to Irvine
I know what I’m talking about….
Nice amphitheater, though.
JK.
Newport/Huntington is legit. But not on campus.
"It would be my honor to be your new stepfather."
by PhutureKings on Jun 18, 2009 1:13 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree with Phuture, mostly
Except that in addition to Irvine being horrible, the surrounding areas are also horrible, but in different ways. I can’t stand the people that choose to call orange county home. fights at every party. dudes more concerned with their appearance than their fake breast/tan/smile/personality girlfriends. Every other UC school (besides riverside of course) has more to offer socially than Irvine.
false
why is Santa Cruz near the bottom? great school, for, you know, learning stuff. The area can be great at times but I never leave campus.
by VenomySnicket on Jun 18, 2009 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Just getting into a UC
would be amazing. I love Santa Cruz, and I’ll be applying to them. I just like Davis more because it’s a biker town (I bike everywhere now), it’s close to home, and I’ve had three teachers so far (one is leaving teaching for a full-ride at Harvard!) that enjoyed going to UC Davis.
"Greed is the inventor of injustice as well as the current enforcer." - Julian Casablancas
It'll probably be in mathematics or something
I love cars (more than basketbally), and my dream would be to design suspensions for mass-produced cars.. my backup plan and the one that would be easier is to become a high school math teacher, preferably upper echelon math, or an elementary school teacher because I work well with young kids.
Berkeley is pretty cool, I just can’t live there.
"Greed is the inventor of injustice as well as the current enforcer." - Julian Casablancas
Let me know if you choose BYU
SB & I have League Pass.
The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.
by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 17, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Lifestyle
BYU and UC Davis are polar opposites politically and socially. You’re going to have very different experiences, interactions and influences depending on which you choose. I’d consider the lifestyle issue very carefully when making a decision.
And no – I don’t have an opinion on Davis as a university, other than that their veterinary program is supposed to be one of the top programs in the country.
My personal take is...
Never go to a religiously affiliated school.
People will discriminate. Just the way it is. Besides, if you use your brain in college and engage in honest philosophy, you’ll eventually figure out there is no God anyway, so why have it foistered upon your education?
"It would be my honor to be your new stepfather."
by PhutureKings on Jun 17, 2009 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I will interupt the awkward silence to add
Both are excellent schools. It is not the school per se, it is what you put into your education.
I know a large number of professionals and they originate from the entire spectrum of schooling backgrounds: junior college to start, state college schools, state university schools, private schools, Ivy League. These choices are all paths to success in any given field.
To put it simply and in two sentences: Exclusivity does not exist. Life is a meritocracy.
Sub – you have obvious intelligence – go work on being smart at the place that “feels right”.
by betweentheeyes on Jun 17, 2009 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
life is anything but a meritocracy,
and if you think it is explain Voisin to me.
by passionforPERPS on Jun 19, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
My personal take is...
Don’t be an ass.
BYU and Davis are both fine schools. If BYU’s one of his main options, it’s most likely that he holds certain religious beliefs that no amount of asshattery or anti-religious snobbery will change.
m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!
No reason I shouldn't try.
The sooner you break free, the better.
And, I might add, before I went to school, I was in the military, went to Sac City for 2 years and then transferred. So, I agree with what BtE’s had to say.
You…not so much.
"It would be my honor to be your new stepfather."
by PhutureKings on Jun 18, 2009 1:17 AM PDT up reply actions
My personal take is...
Never go into the military.
People will discriminate. Just the way it is. Besides, if you use your brain in the military and engage in honest philosophy, you’ll realize that most of your fellow recruits are pro-war, anti-homosexual douchebags who didn’t have the grades to get into a good college, so why should you have to spend 24/7 with those kinds of people?
Oh my, am I guilty of generalization?
With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Rickeke Flynenningday, point guard from Europe, Memphis, Syracuse, UCLA and Parts Unknown.
By the way
I really like you Phuture, and agree with you on many things – probably including your religious beliefs. But I’ve got plenty of friends who have attended BYU, and most of them (not all of course) managed to became great, intelligent, well-rounded human beings in spite of the horrors inflicted at said university.
With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Rickeke Flynenningday, point guard from Europe, Memphis, Syracuse, UCLA and Parts Unknown.
Guilty of generalization
I went the military route. Look what it did me? LOL (I kid.)
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
And I'm going the same route Phuture is
Not that that is a surprise.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Thing is...
A sports blog is not the place to try to win converts to your cause. People’s long-held opinions become fortified, and StR becomes less enjoyable in the process. All I ask is that people leave the political crap off the Kings blog.
m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!
by JediLeroy on Jun 18, 2009 6:18 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rubio has us befuddled - we are torn between "love" and threat of disappointment
rec’d JediLeroy for truth, justice and the American Way (freedom of speech, but take it outside, please) i
All I ask is that people leave the political crap off the Kings blog.
by betweentheeyes on Jun 18, 2009 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions
You're going to have a hard time working at that one
Because that has happened here as long as I’ve been posting. I ain’t going to stop posting that way, so umm, good luck converting people with that.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Just because the loudest ones here mostly share the same politics
…doesn’t mean that everybody does—or even the majority.
How hard is it to be respectful of others’ views? Oh well. I guess there’s always killfile.
m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!
It's easy to be respectful of other people's views
I just don’t really feel the need to do so.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Then I was wrong about you.
You are a prick, after all.
m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!
I knew you would understand
I’m so proud of you. I’m going to write everybody a letter back home now.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Foistered
Is not actually a real word.
Foisted is what you meant.
Maybe your godless education wasn’t all that.
The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.
by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 18, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
I know about the differences
I am LDS, and going to BYU would be the cheapest way to get to college (something around 32 grand with board and textbooks), and it’s not a bad school either in terms of education. So even though I find Utah to be extremely bland,I don’t think it would be a bad fit for me.
"Greed is the inventor of injustice as well as the current enforcer." - Julian Casablancas
So you like the Strokes, eh? I saw them at UCD three years ago. I don't think they'll be going to BYU anytime soon.
"El once, chico. Eleven."
If...
you are a humanities major the school is mediocre at best. If youre science, math, viticulture(wine), pre med, vetrinary, engineering, or something of the sort its a great school. Lots of hippies, asians, nerdy kids and fewer prototypical white males than most schools. All in all if you dont mind the weather and the lack of beaches and mountains its a good place to be.
by passionforPERPS on Jun 19, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Dear TZ,
Sorry I ruined your blog. I was just saying that it sucks to drive in Davis, which is totally true, but I was just teasing. I didn’t mean to start a religious war.
Plus, Section started it.
-ASSN
by AnotherStupidSN on Jun 19, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
sac has a dearth of spanish food
ricky will complain about the lack of good authentic spanish food in sac and complain about having to drive 90mi to SF for it. he will later open up an awful tapas joint in natomas and call it “centro de corte” and it will be the hot spot when the brothers gasol or calderon are in town.
by fire_voisin on Jun 17, 2009 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Make it a Mexican restuarant....
I heard Ricky really like rolled tacos….
Good take on it TZ
If GP can find a way to trade up to 2 without giving up Shawes, JT, or K-Mart, I’ll be a happy camper.
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
If that's true...
What would that trade look like? #4 and #23 for #2? I’d like to get rid of K-9 as well, but not if we have to take back Marko Jaric.
I can live with Jaric for K9(woof!)
I can live with giving up the #23 or the #31, though not both. I cannot live with the prospect of parting with JT, Hawes or Greene. I would rather retain those assets and select Flynn/Evans/Jennings/Holiday than give them up for Rubio.
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by section214 on Jun 17, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Agree completely
even though I really want Ricky.
I don’t think Memphis is stupid enough to think they can get JT from us (unless Chad Ford is now their GM).
by AnotherStupidSN on Jun 17, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
As much as I like Donte as a person
I’d include him to get a deal done. Otherwise, I agree with your take.
I agree with Carl
I would include Donte if neccessary. You can talk all you want about Kevin Martin’s rookie year and try to make a comparison, but the difference so far is Kevin Martin seemed like he cared. I can’t say the same for Donte yet although hopefully that changes.
by Travis Mays Hayes on Jun 17, 2009 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Fair enough
Remember, though, that Martin was 21 when he began his rookie campaign, while Donté was 19.
SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!
Martin didn't come in a trade for Ron Artest either
He was far less visible, and people didn’t go into 2004 worried about his rate of development. Also, there wasn’t a coaching change until after his 2nd year.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
At this point, one of my biggest fears is
Minnesota. I think they also have the pieces to make a trade with Memphis (plenty of draft picks, etc.). And they have a pretty substantial need for a PG, too.
"It would be my honor to be your new stepfather."
If Rubio won't go to Memphis or OKC, he's not going to Minny either.
"Or, as Randy Jackson would say: Not feelin’ it, dawg."
-bench-blob- posting virgin.
It's my understanding
It has nothing to do with the size of the market, only with Minutes available at the PG. Memphis with Conley and Mayo and OKC with Westbrook are the negatives of those situations respectively, in Minnesota just like in Sacramento he would be the instant starter.
It HAS to do with market size too
Rubio’s people know he has the potential of being THE guy and he needs to do it in a big market. And before you say Sacramento is a small market (which is true) we are at least in a state called California
I don't live in Minnesota
So I am not trying to defend the state, but Rubio’s agent, Dan Fegan, has stated repeatedly that Ricky doesn’t care about market size, only his decision to play minutes and in that sense, Sacramento and Minnesota both have plenty of minutes to give him.
This is true
Ricky has international appeal (as everyone here has obviously noticed). As his agent has repeatedly said, Ricky will get sponsorships no matter what market he plays in….as long as he doesn’t sit on the bench. All he cares about is playing time (and maybe avoiding Memphis).
I'm on your side, here,
but I just enjoyed how comically serious and emotional that sounded. I put my hand over my heart for a sec.
Lower their expectations and rise to met them
Switch that
to the #31 pick and we are in agreement… No need to give up 2 first rounders AND a double-digit expiring contract…
Have you ever wondered if there was more to life other than being really, really, ridiculously good looking???
by Noble_Bloodlines on Jun 17, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I still fail to see why his buy out will be a big deal
I mean, sure his rookie pay scale isn’t that much, but certainly sponsors in the spanish community and perhaps Nike, etc. will be giving him mucho dollares.
Does anyone know if the Palms can pay him to make a “guest appearance” at the Playboy Club?
"It would be my honor to be your new stepfather."
It's still his bargaining chip.
And for that matter, the Kings bargaining chip. Not to be all conspiracy theorist but this all looks like a very skilled team of dudes manipulating the media, the NBA and specifically the teams sitting at #2 and #3. Levien has ties to Joventut, he has turned over most of his client base to Fegan (Rubio’s agent), the Kings are floating it out there that they are so cashed strapped that they might not be willing to jump into this whole mess, Rubio is only coming here and shunning the other teams.
"Or, as Randy Jackson would say: Not feelin’ it, dawg."
-bench-blob- posting virgin.
by jjham15 on Jun 17, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I've been getting the same feeling
Re: Our dudes are working with his dudes against everyone else’s dudes.
by AnotherStupidSN on Jun 17, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
It's an our dudes are smarter than your dudes type situation.
"Or, as Randy Jackson would say: Not feelin’ it, dawg."
-bench-blob- posting virgin.
Thank God for that
because between Petrie, Levien and Fegan, those are some smart people. Negotiating with Chris Wallace and the Memphis Grizzlies should be no problem
www.mancancook.net
My dudes would like to help.
Anything we can do?
Lower their expectations and rise to met them
Your tattoo says "sweet"
What does mine say?
"It would be my honor to be your new stepfather."
by PhutureKings on Jun 17, 2009 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Dude
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jun 18, 2009 5:54 AM PDT up reply actions
you are of course aware of
Dudeism. Please tell me you have seen the Big Lebowski.

by betweentheeyes on Jun 18, 2009 7:24 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Dude abides
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jun 18, 2009 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Seriosly though
Not necessarily “smarter”, maybe just better at playing this game and more willing to do it. Hopefully.
by AnotherStupidSN on Jun 17, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Or
a $6.6 mil Palms endorsement contract.
Lower their expectations and rise to met them
Plus the cushy Good Feet gig
pun intended
by AnotherStupidSN on Jun 17, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Alternative to a trade up
would be that which many have mentioned concerning the possibility of a lucrative endorsement contract for Rubio that would serve to negate the $1.5 million shortfall. The nature of his personality and uniqueness is bound to almost guarantee this.
But
You have to think Team Rubio is already planning on endorsements. That’s already a slice of the revenue pie. No sense in giving up $1.5 million in salary if you can keep that, too.
You mean like Marc Gasol?
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
is there any flexibility
in how much a draft pick is paid? Or is it all set in stone – #1gets X, #2 gets X-Y, etc?
First-round picks
Looser scale for second-rounders, which is why you’ll often find internationals pegged for the late first attempt to knock themselves down into the second.
Thanks...
I think that is best, but was hoping for some wiggle room. I really like RR and hope things can work out. But I do not want to give up JT, Spence or Martin to get him. Maybe Dante’ but ONLY because I question how serious Dante’ is at being the best athlete he can be.
Isn't it scale plus up to 20% club option.
last year I believe that JT got 20% over CBA scale and é didn’t.
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
Maybe this is cynical, or maybe my previous post was too starry-eyed. You decide.
Only perfect proof that Geoff Petrie is not Kevin McHale.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Trading up with Memphis because Fegan wants to get his client more money is stupid
You don’t do it. Say no to agent terrorism Geoff!
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 17, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is that
agent terrorism or Agent Terrorism? I need to know if we’re genrealizing or specific…..izing.
Lower their expectations and rise to met them
And what's English
for genreal? Geez.
Lower their expectations and rise to met them
Ricky's Twitter
Visita al Arco Arena … las instalaciones son brutales! Revisión médica, todo OK!!!! Cena con Paul Westphal, el nuevo Coach. Todo genial!!!
I believe he is saying:
1) The facilities suck. (No denying that.)
2) His physical was completely fine.
3) Paul Westphal is completely nice.
But my Spanish really sucks.
Brutal
Is cool.
The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.
by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 17, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Or awesome for the less profane.
The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.
by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 17, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah...
It’s like saying “wicked” if you’re from Boston.
Good thing he has not/is not planning to visit any other teams!
"It would be my honor to be your new stepfather."
by PhutureKings on Jun 17, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
My Spanish not much better (and English certainly worse)
But ‘Cena con Paul Westphal, el nuevo Coach’ means ‘A dinner with Paul Westphal, the new coach [of Kings]’ and Todo genial is just ‘All is brilliant’
Nice.
What ‘brutal’ can mean (good or bad) I have no idea
by KingsFanfromCentralEurope on Jun 17, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks friends
So he does not think the facilities suck. Now we know he’s lying.
by Tom Ziller on Jun 17, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
To be honest
Compared to where they play in Spain, I’m sure this is a huge upgrade. Now, wait until he goes to better arenas in the NBA, he’s gonna love those.
I’m glad he came over here first though. From personal experience, eventhough you haven’t seen all your options, the first one you like is probably gonna stay on your mind for a while.
I thought I'd read that the basketball facilities in Europe really are brutal.
and he may be the one player en el todo mundo (since he’s never been anywhere else in the USA) who thinks ARCO is awesome.
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
I would assume...
he’s talking good (since brutal is slang for cool) about the workout room, locker room, and practice facility. I doubt he’s checking out the team store or the food court.
so you are saying that when Rubio states he is extending

So he does not think the facilities suck. Now we know he’s lying.
by betweentheeyes on Jun 18, 2009 2:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Dave Jones is feverishly writing down the transliteration
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If he becomes a Kings
Brutal will be my new favorite word.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement.
by Aykis16 on Jun 17, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That sounds great in Spanish.
It Anglicized stupid and juvenile. But when has that ever stopped us? Am I wrong, or did you use the feminine?
Lower their expectations and rise to met them
I’m pretty sure that’s what everyone here at StR has been calling him..
From the above post:
He knows the best way to get Ricky No. 2 pick money without going to the team picking No. 2 is to make Sacramento — Petrie, the Maloofs, even Kevin Martin and the fans — fall head over feet in love with La Pistola.
its not the feminine form of it
the Spanish word for pistol is pistola. there’s no pistolo
www.mancancook.net
Wouldn't it be "El Pistola"?
Granted, my two years of high school Spanish have mostly vaporized…
With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Rickeke Flynenningday, point guard from Europe, Memphis, Syracuse, UCLA and Parts Unknown.
OK, anyway,
The Awesome Pistol has a kind of comic book-iness to it. Maybe a good thing. It fits his lifesize cardboard cut-out.
Lower their expectations and rise to met them
Aside from that,
I’m hugely in favor of El Rey, which, if I’m not mistaken (and about to be publicly slapped again), means, appropriately, The King. A+ for use of commas.
Lower their expectations and rise to met them
Don't need the comma before "means"
You can use it, but you don’t need it. A-
"It would be my honor to be your new stepfather."
by PhutureKings on Jun 17, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
the other side of the coin...
While from a financial standpoint, it’s obviously better for Fegan to get the kings to trade up to #2 – in terms of securing the best team situation for Rubio, it seems like it would be in the best interests of Fegan/Rubio for the kings to not have to give up any of their young core in the process.
Thoughts
Trade Kenny Thomas, by all means. I’m not big on taking Jaric back, but if that what we have to do, ok.
But the thing is that Memphis comes out WAY ahead in this situation. They get up to the minimum salary by taking on K9 for one year, then have all the cap space in the world to get a big name FA in 2010.
They also get a player at 4 that, if their GM had a brain in his skull, they would draft anyway instead of Rubio because they not only already have their “Point Guard of the Future” but Rubio doesn’t want to play there, and doesn’t have to.
Trade up to #2 with the 4 and either 23, 31, or next year’s first rounder (protected top 5). That should get the job done, the greed of Memphis notwithstanding.
The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.
by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 17, 2009 1:30 PM PDT reply actions
Next year's first-round pick?
I don’t think we can afford to give that up. We’re more than one year away from contention.
by misterbrister on Jun 17, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
No way
you include next year’s number 1.
Lower their expectations and rise to met them
Agree
We could pull a Chicago and get the first pick…JOHN WALL. Who we hopefully won’t need, because we already have a legit PG in Rubio.
"It would be my honor to be your new stepfather."
by PhutureKings on Jun 17, 2009 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
We need Ricky
I hope all these posts havent been setting us up for heartbreak because theres still a good chance he gets drafted before us and we dont make a trade. Im praying he comes to us, but I dont want to get my hopes to high..
Between
keeping my hopes down because of the Arena issue and keeping my hopes down because of maybe not getting Rubio, I think I now have the mentality of a Clipper’s fan. GRRR AAARRRRGHHH!
Oh, so we're going to get Blake Griffin?
How’s that gonna happen?
"It would be my honor to be your new stepfather."
by PhutureKings on Jun 17, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I read this somewhere on the Internet
so it must be true…that the #19 draft pick (Hawks) is up for sale (cash) so all you have to do is pick up Claxton’s contract (after insurance about 2 million) and maybe toss in 3 Million cash…..would this be a good chip to add so that we could throw in the 19 with the 4 and still keep the 23?
Does anyone know if this is true?
This would solve the problem IMO if it’s legit…
Have you ever wondered if there was more to life other than being really, really, ridiculously good looking???
by Noble_Bloodlines on Jun 17, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
or
throw in the 23 and keep the 19.
I heard they are willing to do this but i don’t think the Maloofs will shell out the cash to make it happen.
seems like something Portland would do
Punjabi by Nature
True...
But honestly, how could they pass this up? I mean, it would definitely be an investment in attendance next season. Also a good basketball move to take two 1st-rounders.
Have you ever wondered if there was more to life other than being really, really, ridiculously good looking???
by Noble_Bloodlines on Jun 17, 2009 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions
TZ you are a G
Your point about making the Kings fall in love with Rubio so they trade up to #2 is a gem. Hadn’t thought about it that way until I read this. Can’t wait to see what happens next week.
Question for Amick
When he says “meet and greet the Kings personnel” and Rubio watching “the workout this morning” does he mean the Kings dancers??
Only 8 days till draft day
And Rubio comes to Sacramento first, extends his trip here, and does a workout. He also thinks the facilities are cool and the people are nice. I think this bodes well for us.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement.
If only this were a recruiting visit
and not a draft.
by Travis Mays Hayes on Jun 17, 2009 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Minnesota has more ammunition
If your Memphis would you rather have
#4, #23 + Expiring Contract for #2 + Jaric
or
#6, #18 + Expiring Contract for #2 + Jaric
I guess it would all depend on who Memphis is targeting, and whether either #18 or #23 is desirable for Memphis understanding they already own #27 from the Kyle Lowry trade.
Further
Minnesota can throw Madsen, Brown, and Smith into the deal as exprigins which total $6 Million which would work whereas Memphis would have to take on Kenny Thomas at $8.5 Million.
As Memphis only has 8 Players under contract for 09-10 before the draft, Memphis would save $2.1 Million in Salary with Minnesota’s expiring contracts and would fill out 2 more roster slots rather than being forced to eat 2 more players at the veteran minimum to fill out the roster.
No le gusta
The crappy weather.
"And with the number one pick in the 2008 draft, the Sacramento Kings take...."
As stated above
Fegan has stated that Ricky doesn’t care about Market size, only cares about minutes available for him at the point. This is why he doesn’t want to play for Memphis and OKC, but would play for the Kings.
Further, I don’t think Memphis gives a rip where Ricky wants to play and they are going to make the best deal for their franchise.
Signing Multiple first round picks
Plus filling out the roster with minimum salary guys gets them to the minimum as well.
Not worried so much about new york
They don’t have anything the griz want, and I don’t think memphis is willing to break the bank on any FA, let alone someone like David Lee.
"Because they don't have four pointers."
- Antoine Walker, on why he shoots so many three pointers
Draft Thabeet and move Gasol to PF.
That’s a definite possibility.
There now I've met the 75 word count. -pookeyguru
mabye 10 years ago
but frontlines are becoming too agile and skilled away from the basket for that to be effective, especially in the west.
"Because they don't have four pointers."
- Antoine Walker, on why he shoots so many three pointers
True but Thabeet should be an off the ball powerhouse defender,
its doable you’d essentially be playing big but its definitely possible.
There now I've met the 75 word count. -pookeyguru
I agree
Gasol’s lack of lateral quickness would be seriously exposed at the 4. Hill seems to be a great fit for them except taking him at #2 would be a waste of an asset. I think Memphis is most likely to move and if the Kings want him, that’s the team to deal with.
I think if everybody stays pat, the Kings wind up with Rubio at #4; however, I think Memphis is a lock to trade out.
honestly
can’t see why Rubio would want to go there. They just throught the whole Gallinari thing, and I don’t think Rubio wants to go somewhere where he will be booed every time he turns it over.
"Because they don't have four pointers."
- Antoine Walker, on why he shoots so many three pointers
you would want the 4 and the 23
The difference between the 4 and the 6 in a draft is always more than the difference between and 18 and a 23, especially in this draft when everything flattens out once you get past 5.
by Travis Mays Hayes on Jun 17, 2009 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't see the need
to trade for #2 or #3…if OKC or MEM ar so high on drafting a guy wich they don’t need, they are not going to start and wich don’t want to play for them, we have still good if not great options left.
I love Rubio, but I’d definitively could live with Jennings or Evans
"Even when I’m old and grey, I won’t be able to play it, but I’ll still love the game." — Michael Jordan
Go Kings!
by Panzerfaust on Jun 17, 2009 4:14 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
BTW
With the 27th pick in the NBA Draft, I select…Austin Daye, from Gonzaga University.
Austin could not be here tonight.
by ttylerbballcamper on Jun 17, 2009 4:43 PM PDT reply actions
I reffed a few high school games with Austin while he was still at Woodbridge.
He was lazy, and a cry baby. He wanted a foul called on every play when he had the ball while slapping wildly on defense. He was disrespectful to his coach and was egotistical to the other players. Granted they were all under 6 feet but still. That guy has bust written all over him!
Perception is strong and sight weak. In strategy it is important to see distant things as if they were close and to take a distanced view of close things.
Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt — When catapults are outlawed, only outlaws will have catapults"
by SactownheartOChouse on Jun 17, 2009 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Sam Amick
Just posted on twitter:
Spoke with former Milwaukee and Phx coach Terry Porter today; said he won’t be joining Kings or – most likely – any other team this season.
Have you ever wondered if there was more to life other than being really, really, ridiculously good looking???
by Noble_Bloodlines on Jun 17, 2009 6:11 PM PDT reply actions
Heard that on Sportsline too
Mentioned the D league coach (Gates I believe) is a candidate and so is Mario Ellie. He actually implied we could see Ellie joining the Kings soon. Take it for what it is…
I sure hope so
I would LOVE to see them hire Ellie. But I was hoping to get Porter along with him…
Have you ever wondered if there was more to life other than being really, really, ridiculously good looking???
by Noble_Bloodlines on Jun 17, 2009 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I loved Porter as a player, but he will lose too much to come over now while still being paid by Phoenix.
I did a post on this very topic, but Porter’s team actually have not been that strong defensively.
I like Elie, Gates and would be great to add Laimbeer for the bigs, and an former guard to round the staff out.
Perception is strong and sight weak. In strategy it is important to see distant things as if they were close and to take a distanced view of close things.
Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt — When catapults are outlawed, only outlaws will have catapults"
by SactownheartOChouse on Jun 17, 2009 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
one of the former staff?
Randy Brown?
by betweentheeyes on Jun 17, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
He should be cheap, and I assume Kevin Johnson is a little busy these days...
Perception is strong and sight weak. In strategy it is important to see distant things as if they were close and to take a distanced view of close things.
Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt — When catapults are outlawed, only outlaws will have catapults"
by SactownheartOChouse on Jun 17, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
They way I understood it
Phoenix would still have to pay him the difference of whatever the Kings gave him from his guaranteed $$$… So that should have nothing to do with it.
I'm a limousine-riding, jet-flying, kiss-stealing, wheeling-dealing son of a gun!!! Wooooo!!!
by Noble_Bloodlines on Jun 18, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions

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