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The Irony/Bright Side For Paul Westphal Doubters

As you well know, I'm a Paul Westphal doubter. When writing fan fiction about the Kings, I always pair up Jason Thompson with a coach of more defensive acumen. I'm a Thompson/Thibodeau shipper! What can I say?

But even though I'd never personally choose Westphal, the dude is making it difficult to outright hate the pick. This time, it's by reportedly being interested in hiring two coaching prospects we fawned over years ago. From (who else?) Amick:

I've been told by two folks who know that if Westphal gets the job, he would strongly consider Mario Elie (current Dallas assistant who would have to be let out of his contract) and Terry Porter (former Kings assistant, Milwaukee and Phoenix head coach and longtime Petrie friend from Portland days) as assistants.

If I weren't so irrelevant, this would be the most obvious pander in the history of Western Civilization. We Kings fans are distracted by shiny baubles, ready to forget injustice so long as the next course shimmers. I'm not a fan of hiring Westphal, not given his recent failures, complicated as though they may be. But distract me with one-time drool-worthy coaches like Elie and Porter? Paul Westwhat?

Porter obviously lost his luster in Phoenix (slight understatement), though I think no one blames the coach himself. Elie went from a candidate on the verge of hire three years ago to a fairly anonymous assistant. One of the biggest crimes Reggie Theus committed was to not hire a legit top assistant long on experience and ready to run a team. He tried to pull Larry Drew from Atlanta, but the Hawks wouldn't let Drew out of his contract. Kenny Natt obviously didn't work out, and I'd be surprised if Chuck Person ever interviewed for a top job without a major career reformation. I'm a big fan of Jason Hamm and have never heard anything bad about Rex Kalamian or Randy Brown. But Theus didn't really fill his staff with future head coaching material.

If Westphal comes in as a teacher and steward, and he hires some exciting assistant coaches, well ... my icy pen will thaw.

 

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No now its

The Wizard of West Sac

Father of the "Natt this!" movement.

by Aykis16 on Jun 2, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait a minute...

My icy pen will thaw

Just what kind of fan fiction are you writing?

by rbiegler on Jun 2, 2009 6:34 AM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Fan fiction??

Hate to offend Ghost-Face Zilla, but is that as pathetic and lady-living-alone-with-three-hundred-cats as it sounds??

Life is every mammal's journey from very very wet to very very dry.

by Holmdel on Jun 2, 2009 7:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Most romance novels are written under pen names, a guy has to make a living

just saying

"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley

by Bluejohn on Jun 2, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Westwhat

Well, at least now we’ve got a nickname lined up if he quickly becomes terrible

Never forget: I am a complete idiot

by Exhibit G on Jun 2, 2009 7:05 AM PDT reply actions  

How about Westworld?

That’s a title with a killer rep!

by hozr on Jun 2, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just hope the practices don't look like

fight scenes from West Side Story.

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Jun 2, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've already made our last coach's name an expletive

I don’t know how Westphal could do worse. Westphail is the obvious choice for a derogatory nickname. As bte said, thats just too easy.

Father of the "Natt this!" movement.

by Aykis16 on Jun 2, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

If they only want to spend $1.5 Million for a head coach

How can they afford 2 high profile assistants? Seems strange.

by Charlieb on Jun 2, 2009 8:52 AM PDT reply actions  

One is still ...

… getting paid by a Pacific Division rival. Elie isn’t very high-profile these days.

by Tom Ziller on Jun 2, 2009 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hadn't considered that

I suppose since he doesn’t have to worry about feeding his family, Porter would probably take any chance to redeem himself at a discount.

by Charlieb on Jun 2, 2009 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just imagine...

if he adds Bobby Jackson and Michael Smith to the coaching staff…

by Zach H from Talk H on Jun 2, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Vlade

would be a better pick than Smith

by hozr on Jun 2, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think

that the coaching staff is just as if not MORE important than the Headcoach.

Just look at Chicago with VDN.
Solid coaching staff, weak headcoach, still made it to the playoffs and looked far better later in the season than earlier. Kind of the Reverse in Detroit with Curry even though they made the playoffs… if the staff around Curry had been better perhaps Detroit would have played up to it’s potential (also, who bets that the suitors for Iverson are few and far between?)

If we are able to land Elie and Porter on the staff with Westphal I will not be overjoyed at the thought of Westphal coaching the Kings, but I will be willing to let them see what they can do.

That is part of the beauty of getting an older cat like Westphal though, he has been around the league a LONG time, and I’m sure he has favors that he can cash in. With longtime assistants and people looking for a second chance (perhaps a Paul Silas-Type ((which actually describes T. Porter to a degree)) could be in the running here as well).

I’m also interested to see what they do with a Bigs coach. Any word on keeping ’Reef around another season to help with Hawes and Thompson?

Blessings.Love.Peace

by lifestyleforthesellout on Jun 2, 2009 10:08 AM PDT reply actions  

I think I'm buying what Westphal is selling-

I have a tough time not comparing his coaching record and career path to Rick Adelman. Although Adelman didn’t take any extended time off, both coaches were extremely successful in their first job and fell flat on their faces the second time around. Adelman obviously recovered to lead our Kings and the Rockets and in my opinion is the most underrated head coach in the game today. Westphal is still relatively young and has had success as both a player and coach. It’s not like Westphal hasn’t been around the game, coaching college and as an assistant/front office guy in Dallas.

Bringing in guys like Ellie and Porter would do a lot to bridge the gap for anything Westphal has missed out on while away from NBA. I would love to see these two guys teaching the Kings backcourt and swing positions the nuances of defense that made them so successful as players. If Westphal isn’t successful or decides to step away earlier than expected, you have two young head coach in waiting candidates already established. Porter isn’t going to get another head coaching gig anytime soon, Ellie needs to re-establish himself as a viable candidate after an odd fall from consideration. Both of these guys are better coaches than the Chuck Persons/Kenny Natts of the world. If Westphal can bring these guys with him then he becomes my new leading candidate.

"Or, as Randy Jackson would say: Not feelin’ it, dawg."
-bench-blob- posting virgin.

by jjham15 on Jun 2, 2009 11:17 AM PDT reply actions  

Me too...

PW is not my choice for coach, but toss in the prospect of having Porter and Ellie on the bench and I am feeling pretty good if GP goes that route and that is the staff that develops.

+1 on the Adelman comment – “in my opinion is the most underrated head coach in the game today”.
I think the guy does more with less than any coach I have watched in the NBA. He can also manage alpha- male personalities, ala Phil Jackson, which IMO makes Rick a great coach. I wish we still had him, but he wasn’t pretty or flashy enough for the bros Maloof.

by STH114 on Jun 2, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ellie and Porter were two of my favorite players back in the day and would make Westphal far more palatible

I remember Reggie talking about one of the things he was surprised about being a head coach was how many non game things the HC was responsible for, ie, getting buses from the plane, hotel rooms, practice facilities, stuff like that when the team is on the road. The HC gets involved in a lot of administrative functions and his assistants are the ones who do most of the hands on teaching and training.

Whether it’s Westphal and/or the organization it’s pretty smart to bring in two guys the local fans got excited about as HC candidates at one time but it make me conclude if they have gotten this far in their thinking then for better or worse, and until proven otherwise I’m choosing better, Paul Westphal is our next head coach.

"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley

by Bluejohn on Jun 2, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

What about Carill?

Does our boy Pete C fit in with any of these coaches? He seems to have such a positive impact on the youth.

by amonk81 on Jun 2, 2009 11:51 AM PDT reply actions  

He's considered a team consultant or something like that

Not considered a part of the coaching staff

Never forget: I am a complete idiot

by Exhibit G on Jun 2, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Plus, he knows Terry Porter.

Porter was an Adelman assistant during the 2002-03 season along with Yoda.

"Or, as Randy Jackson would say: Not feelin’ it, dawg."
-bench-blob- posting virgin.

by jjham15 on Jun 2, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

i am repeating myself repeating myself

Nothing wrong with Paul Westphal the coach. His record is impressive enough (W-L) and he has legit playoff experience. He is well known around the league and he is, by all accounts a very nice man and upstanding citizen. He was a full on All-Star as a player. Though there are negative comments, there is significant and noteworthy praise from some significant people (Danny Ainge, Charles Barkley, Kevin Johnson, etc.). Geoff Petrie obvious likes him (or why interview him).

The problem is the way this has been presented: That Paul Westphal is a bargain hunting prize with the Kings showing no interest in big ticket names as alternative candidates.

If handled better, Paul Westphal would have already met the excited approval of (this) the fan base or at the least a lack of dissent or a vote of no confidence. This fan base deserves some foreplay – cajole, titillate, put on some make up – instead of a “here’s 5 bucks, spread’em” presentation.

by betweentheeyes on Jun 2, 2009 2:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Is that Paul Blanco?

LMAO

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

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by pookeyguru on Jun 2, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's easy, hire Kayte Christensen

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Jun 2, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Section - thank you

rec’d for helping me laugh at my frustration

by betweentheeyes on Jun 2, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like the assistant chatter

and if, hired, I hope he’d follow through. Still, this is a red flag to me barring more info:

Interestingly, he spent very little time around the team and was based in Los Angeles. I have yet to find out why that was the case.

What was he doing in LA while working in Dallas’ front office?

by LPKingsFan on Jun 2, 2009 6:21 PM PDT reply actions  

He is

from Torrance which is outside of LA. So his home is in LA.

Blessings.Love.Peace

by lifestyleforthesellout on Jun 2, 2009 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have to admit

When I first heard Westphal’s name mentioned as a coaching candidate for the Kings, I was a bit skeptical. My memory of him was mostly as the failed retread in Seattle. A little research shows that the failure in Seattle was more to do about Vin Baker and Gary (I can’t shut my mouth long enough to eat) Payton.

   Westphal did a really good job in Phoenix, and finals experience can not be easily overlooked. The Pepperdine job was really just a paycheck to keep him on the west coast and close to his son. I do not put much stock in college records because phenomenal coaches from the college ranks have flamed out quickly in the NBA. Also there is a big difference between college and pro ball. Westphal has the MBA Pelts on the wall. He almost won a ring in Phoenix, and injuries to Kevin Johnson and Barkley were the main reason he didn’t have more shots at a title than he did.

   My one question is can he cultivate young talent and make this team better, because after the draft this will be one of the youngest teams in the NBA. Seems like many of his former players and assistants are high on him, which may just be loyalty or false praise. Truth be told, whoever gets the job will probably only have it for 2-3 years while the team improves and goes thru the growing pains necessary to improve. Westphal appears to be one of the few candidates with all the necessary tools to make a difference considering the Kings present situation.

  More coaching prospects will become available down the road, but right now available coaches are not a deep pool to choose from. Westphal is qualified to coach this Kings team, and I would not be against his hiring knowing he will only be here for 2-3 years at the most. If he can cultivate the young talent and post respectable records or even make it into the playoffs he is worth the small check the MaGoofs are offering. I hope the Kings do not drag the dog and pony show out too long if they are going to hire Westphal anyway. Taking a long time for the appearance of doing due diligence is asinine and wastes time that the new coach needs to craft a game plan with the little talent we have. The chances are very high that will be in the lottery again next year, so does it really matter who is coaching? Give the Job to Westphal and lets get moving in the right direction.

Another year, another chance to hope for the team !!

by FaStRmAn on Jun 2, 2009 10:42 PM PDT reply actions   3 recs

wow

Rec’ing this, without any sarcasm.

Victory is tasty.

by iashwash on Jun 3, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

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