2009 StR Community Draft Board: Pick #15
by Ziller on Jun 2, 2009 9:13 AM PDT
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Blake Griffin, Ricky Rubio, Brandon Jennings, Tyreke Evans, Hasheem Thabeet, Stephen Curry, Ty Lawson, James Harden, Jrue Holiday, Demar DeRozan, Jonny Flynn, Jordan Hill, Jeff Teague and DeJuan Blair are off the board in the first 14 positions on our board.
Reminder: THIS IS NOT A MOCK DRAFT. This is draft board, a list with the order of prospects you'd like to see the Kings pick. In other words, if we were the Kings front office, when our pick came up, we'd take the top name left on our board. So pick your choice, not who you think Petrie or anyone else would choose in a slot.
Explain your choice in the comments, and lobby for who should be added to the next pick's choices. Poll will remain open until 8 AM PDT on Wednesday.
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TZ
Well played, sir. Well played…
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
by Exhibit G on Jun 2, 2009 9:35 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Poll will remain open until 8 AM PDT on Wednesday.
What is this scientology democracy day? Dictator’s don’t give a damn what others say…..
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
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by pookeyguru on Jun 2, 2009 9:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I voted for Terrance Williams
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 2, 2009 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As did I
"I'm too weird ta live but much too rare ta die"
by aKingisBored on Jun 2, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha you changed it (Good call--accurate representation--if only you could have the monster below--ha)
Yeah, if he wants to jump up to the top 5, he has to be at Treviso. He can’t have it both ways. (And I looked at the assistants of that camp. Some intriguing names, Bernie Bickerstaff’s kid, Bill Bayno, Jack Sikma. I’m just saying, that Americans have really helped European basketball along.) Ricky Rubio is going. Why can’t Jennings?
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 2, 2009 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
By the way on the coaching list
I forgot former Bucks head coach Terry Stotts, and Bob Hurley (Bobby’s father) who is also over there too.
Brandon Jennings must go.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 2, 2009 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A brief analysis
When we get to the range of players that I don’t know as well, my talent evaluation becomes ridiculous. Like, worse than normal.
I didn’t vote for either of the Louisville guys because I don’t like Louisville. In fact, that’s why I hated the Cisco pick, but now I love the guy. The lesson: they’re probably a smart pick here.
Didn’t vote for Maynor cause Commonwealth sounds like a commie school. And I was raised to have an irrational fear of communism.
I voted for Patty Mills, because I like underrated guards from smaller programs. St. Mary’s is kinda close to St. Joe’s (name-wise), so my prediction is that he’s the next Jameer Nelson (despite the complete lack of significant similarities).
But man I was tempted to go Hansbrough. Probably will next time around.
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
by Exhibit G on Jun 2, 2009 10:12 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Your evaluation sucks
Don’t quit your day job fool.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 2, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha!
You assume I’m good at my day job!
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
by Exhibit G on Jun 2, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Ha!
I assume correctly.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 2, 2009 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I voted for BJ Mullens
Just because.
Hope
by Ultrakingsfan on Jun 2, 2009 10:24 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Earl Clark
Add Gerald Henderson?
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by section214 on Jun 2, 2009 11:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm still going Budinger.
The guy is an athletic sharpshooter with a High Basketball IQ.
Although Mills is enticing, as are the Louisville boys.
And I agree with Section Henderson needs to be on the list.
He is Budinger, with a worse jumpshot, and better defense.
Blessings.Love.Peace
by lifestyleforthesellout on Jun 2, 2009 1:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
TZ -
Rocking the “G”-inspired avatar.
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by section214 on Jun 2, 2009 2:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wizard of West Sac
I’m loving it.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement.
by Aykis16 on Jun 2, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by section214 on Jun 2, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nobody wants to admit it
But, some of us are.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 2, 2009 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wizard of Wilton?
Weaverville?
Whiskeytown?
Wacaville?
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by section214 on Jun 2, 2009 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL @ u
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 2, 2009 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha ha!
Woodland, actually. So it works.
by Ziller on Jun 2, 2009 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wizard of West - Wood...land
by Travis Mays Hayes on Jun 2, 2009 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I can't believe it's hotter in Seattle right now than Sacramento
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 2, 2009 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And somewhere between 7-10 degrees too
Fuck you all. I hope it’s 110+ for the rest of the summer. Actually, no I don’t hope that cuz I’ll get bitched at by my family. I take that back.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 2, 2009 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice
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by section214 on Jun 2, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Went with Clark
Dude can’t shoot yet, but is explosive like Josh Smith…
I also agree that Gerald Henderson should be added to the next list, along with Austin Daye and James Johnson. (I’d likely take both of them over Hansbrough, Mullens, Budinger and certainly Taylor Griffin.)
Also, nice avatar TZ…
"geez its like this site is so serious i jus wanna git mai opinyons on tha Kings out there ok" - TZ
by sroufe on Jun 2, 2009 2:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Might consider adding
Gani Lawal to the list soon as well…
"geez its like this site is so serious i jus wanna git mai opinyons on tha Kings out there ok" - TZ
by sroufe on Jun 2, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good additions
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by section214 on Jun 2, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was really close between Earl Clark and Terrance Williams
and I went with Clark.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement.
by Aykis16 on Jun 2, 2009 2:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What put Clark over the top
for you Aykis? I like him as well, but Williams seems like the better player to me.
"I'm too weird ta live but much too rare ta die"
by aKingisBored on Jun 2, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know about Aykis
but I went with Clark over Williams because:
1 – Williams can’t create his own shot and his jumper is weak.
2 – Clark has excellent size for a 3 whereas Williams would be an undersized 3.
3 – Clark is a terrific shot-blocker and ball handler for his size.
"geez its like this site is so serious i jus wanna git mai opinyons on tha Kings out there ok" - TZ
by sroufe on Jun 2, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough
but Clark seems like a tweener to me, whereas Williams has a more clearly defined position. And while Williams may be a little undersized for a SF he averaged almost exactly as many rpg as Clark. Plus Williams is better at setting up teammates(5.O apg, 2.0a/to compared to 3apg, 1.0a/to). And Clark isn’t that great a shooter either. I like ’em both, but I like Williams a little more.
"I'm too weird ta live but much too rare ta die"
by aKingisBored on Jun 2, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think
being a “tweener”, whether it be between the 2/3 or 3/4, is that determinative when a franchise is selecting 15th overall. Especially when the players are only 21 years old like both Clark and Williams. It might matter more when you’re selecting 4th and trying to determine if Tyreke Evans is more of a 1 than a 2, but that is different.
I agree that Williams is an excellent defender and rebounder for his size/position – and that Clark isn’t much of a shooter either. I believe both players are capable of becoming better shooters obviously. But I think on potential alone Clark has larger upside than Williams and that’s why some scouts have previously placed him as a nearly certain top-10 selection. I also feel that this is a Kings draft board and I’d be more interested in seeing Greene and Clark compete than Williams and Garcia.
"geez its like this site is so serious i jus wanna git mai opinyons on tha Kings out there ok" - TZ
by sroufe on Jun 2, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right about
being a tweener being somewhat unimportant at the 15th pick, and I think that Clark has more potential.
However, Williams possesses a skill set that better fills the Kings needs. I think that he is a better defender than Clark, a better passer, and about the same rebounding-wise. I see Clark as an offensively gifted combo-forward (something we already have in Donté), and Williams as a perimeter defender/point-forward (something we lack).
"I'm too weird ta live but much too rare ta die"
by aKingisBored on Jun 2, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good arguments aKiB
LOL though, this debate is likely irrelevant to the Kings. However, I will finish with this:
“I see Clark as an offensively gifted combo-forward (something we already have in Donté)…”
I agree that you could currently label Clark as an “offensively gifted combo-forward.” But I think his athleticism gives him the potential to be an excellent defender as well. Especially in terms of shot-blocking, which this team lacks.
I disagree with the comparison to Greene because I think the jury is still out on him and you can’t have enough uber-athletic forward prospects.
“…and Williams as a perimeter defender/point-forward (something we lack).”
I agree with you in putting Williams in this category as well- but I don’t think it’s something the team lacks, as the franchise has already invested in Garcia long-term.
"geez its like this site is so serious i jus wanna git mai opinyons on tha Kings out there ok" - TZ
by sroufe on Jun 2, 2009 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
yeah this debate is kind of pointless. But I agree that Clark’s athleticism could make him a good defender, however I guess that what I meant to say was that I see Clark as being a better offensive player than defensive player, and that he would be a better offensive player than Williams.
I also agree that Garcia is somewhat a pont-forward, and is currently our best defender, but I think that Williams will be better at both of these things (defense and um…point-forwarding) than Garcia long term.
"I'm too weird ta live but much too rare ta die"
by aKingisBored on Jun 2, 2009 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
first of all
35 people think we should take Tyler EFFFING Hansborough (sic) with the 15th pick? I think this proves the “whoever is at the top of the list gets 35 extra votes” theory.
Secondly, question for the Wizard of West Folsom, are we assuming here that the Kings did not have a 4th pick? Or that we have no idea who they took at 4th? Or are we assuming that whoever was taken 4th in this list is their pick?
by Travis Mays Hayes on Jun 2, 2009 6:25 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
TMH
Hansborough played for the national champions of mens basketball. That’s probably why. Somebody had to vote for somebody, and that’s why they did.
Feel free to shoot me now.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 2, 2009 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
TZ -
Let’s put this to the ultimate test – list Joe Kleine first when you post the pick for #16.
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by section214 on Jun 2, 2009 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No thats not the ultimate test
Merely cause Trolls would vote for him if he was last.
I recommend putting Slava Kravtsov in the first slot, currently slated to be picked 60th by DX.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement.
by Aykis16 on Jun 2, 2009 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who cares if the vote is off a little bit
If there is a significant number of people who’s votes are swayed by the player’s position on the board, then it’s all pretty pointless.
And besides it’s just for fun anyway.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jun 2, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean Geoff Petrie
is not basing his draft decisions based on our board??
Why am I voting then…?? WTF!!!
by eduardo_m7 on Jun 2, 2009 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This was my assumption as well :(
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by Aykis16 on Jun 2, 2009 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Petrie collapses upon hearing that Kings wind up with 4th pick
Also pictured (from left) – Jerry Reynolds, Grant Napear, Kayte Christensen and Jim Kozimor.
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by section214 on Jun 2, 2009 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Rec'd for hilarity
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 2, 2009 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
silly, that is his brother Rob
and E7 – saying Rose Marie has a nice rack is just wrong. But yes, Kayte can turn the world on with her smile…
by betweentheeyes on Jun 2, 2009 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean Geoff Petrie is not basing his draft decisions based on our board??
Because youre psychotic.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 2, 2009 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's why you vote
You’re filled with Crazy Cowpoke Passion.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 2, 2009 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am surprised at your mispell there PG
Because youre psychotic
I believe that is spelled psycho T (leave off the “ic”)
by betweentheeyes on Jun 2, 2009 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I suck.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 3, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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