Chad Ford Mock 3.0
He has the Kings taking Holiday at 4 and Casspi at 23. Lawson falls to the Blazers at 24 in this scenario...if that looks like it may happen then I'd rather have the Kings take DeRozan at 4 and Lawson at 23.
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I would expect him to move back up
after the Euro camp thingie, whatever it’s called.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jun 2, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Reebok Eurocamp in Treviso, Italy (June 5-8)
"geez its like this site is so serious i jus wanna git mai opinyons on tha Kings out there ok" - TZ
Thank you for posting that DK
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Really
That would be a mistake, imo
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jun 2, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
A dumb mistake
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Especially if he wants to be picked at 4
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No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Discrepancy
DX said it today
It’s part of the Word on the Street DK.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I don't care who the Kings select at No.4,
Petrie will select the BPA at No. 23 and No. 31. Therefore, if Lawson is still on the board at No. 23 they will take him despite having addressed the PG position earlier in the Lottery.
That said, despite what Ford posted, I still don’t see Lawson falling past Philadelphia at No. 17, let alone Dallas at No. 22…
"geez its like this site is so serious i jus wanna git mai opinyons on tha Kings out there ok" - TZ
Agreed
Lawson was mediocre to poor in Chicago. He’ll shine at enough of the personal workouts to climb back up the draft ladder.
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His athletic results were actually pretty good
More reps on the bench press than many bigger guys (14), and among the quickest players.
Agree
you can’t pretend to know what’s going to happen later, and let that affect your pick at #4.
That said, picking Holiday (or Rubio for that matter) at #4 and a smaller PG like Lawson, Mills, or Collison later on would be fine with me. For parts of the game vs. the opponent’s bench, the two could play at the same time, with tall PG guarding opponents SGs.
anyone notice
that Patty Mills in this mock draft has fallen out of the first round, making him available at 31? In this scenario I would be for Petrie taking a point at #4 and another one at #31. I know its basically what you are all saying but I just wanted to put a finer errr, point, on it.
by Travis Mays Hayes on Jun 2, 2009 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Darren Collison
And a guy like Evans, Jennings or even Rubio would be a nice haul. You need guys who can push players in practice every day. Collison has a better chance to do that.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Great pick
I agree with Collison. He could be a steal at #31 or even 23.
Kings rule! (They are royalty - right?)
Not 23 dalt
The Kings have too many needs up front to not take a big there. It would be really great if the Kings could trade down in the 2nd round to get Collison and another player. But, I’m not hopeful that happens.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I agree
I said “could” be a steal not would be. Collison may be better than Mills and some others being talked about for the late picks. Either way, let’s just take Lawson at #23.
Kings rule! (They are royalty - right?)
LOL Okay
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Harden
Does anyone agree that under this BPA ideology, the pick should be Harden if the draft goes Griffin, Thabeet, Rubio?
My opinion is that he is the best basketball player available at that point.
I think he's the second coming of Eric Gordon
Which isn’t a bad thing, but I think he’s limited in what he can do for a team.
by misterbrister on Jun 3, 2009 5:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I desperately want Lawson
Granted, if Rubio’s available at 4 then forget I ever said that. But back when I was drunkenly reconciling with the fact that we got the 4th pick (which reminds me of a FanPost I need to do) I argued with Chris the Greek that we should take Lawson at 4 if we have to. Yes, I was drunk, but I was really impressed with is leadership during March. Plus I’ve always maintained that while a superstar pick would be nice, we really just need complimentary pieces. And I think Lawson has better compliments than Beno.
Just say no to Flip Saunders
pointless exercise
it seem Ford finds out GP has spoken with someone or brought them in for a workout and then we are picking him… he’ll have at least 5 more iterations of this before draft day, so who cares?
by longtimelistenerfirsttimecaller on Jun 2, 2009 4:28 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Who made the great point
recently that Chad Ford is much better connected than he is gifted as an analyst? These two picks may not be bad. But certainly at 4 you are not drafting need, you are drafting player.
DeRozan and Lawson would be a good grab, too. But Lawson will be long gone by 23.
Lower their expectations and rise to met them
by left hand on Jun 2, 2009 4:31 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I agree with everything
except for Ford’s impressive “connections”. Maybe he’s “inside” with some teams but definitely not all of them and DEFINITELY not ours.
by AnotherStupidSN on Jun 3, 2009 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions
I've always thought Casspi at 23 is a legitimate possibility
Petrie has a habit of taking Euros a lot higher than they are projected, and those guys (Peja, Hedo), have both worked out. I have high hopes for Casspi, especially if Petrie picks him.
Claver could also be in play, but I see him still being around at 31 Casspi, maybe, maybe not.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement.
I'm still holding out hope, however increasingly slim, that we can get Blair at 23.
"It would be my honor to be your new stepfather."
Indiana is picking at 13
I think New Jersey might love him at 11.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
With Blair
Chances are about the only thing likely to remain slim. Zing!
by misterbrister on Jun 3, 2009 5:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I am glad someone finally picked up on my pun
y’all need NurtriSystem for your brains.
by betweentheeyes on Jun 3, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
If we got Evans with pick #4
We could easily have him and a guy like Mills, Collison, or Price on the floor at the same time. That would also take some of the pressure off evans as far as becoming our point guard. Evans, Lawal, and Mills would be a great draft if we’re unable to get Rubio.
They also list the results of the athletic testing
I am very surprised by Harden. He is way more athletic than I thought. I was also not surprised to see that Tyreke Evan’s athletic abilities were a bit underwhelming. Great size, but not very special in other regards.
If both Harden and Evans are available at 4, I am much more intrigued by Harden. He is a stud. We don’t need a 2-guard as much a point, but if you’re talking best-available, i think its Harden.
I would pick Harden over Evans myself. The thing is, even if Evans is labeled as a possible point guard and Harden is definitively a two-guard, I think Harden is the better passer and playmaker. He is much better at controlling the game and involving his teammates than Evans is. Harden is good at so many different phases of the game. He can shoot. He’s has advanced dribble moves and body dekes to penetrate. He can draw fouls. He’s a great passer. Maybe he doesn’t have the athleticism necessary to be a star, but I think a good basketball IQ, good enough athleticism and polish goes a long way.
Harden's upside is Brandon Roy
Harden is an unselfish play who isn’t afraid to score but is definitely a willing passer and good playmaker. He reminds a bit like brandon roy, a two-gaurd with a great all-round game who is not a super athelete who can run the point at times. Bradon Roy wasn’t overwhelming in college but turned out to be a great pro. Harden consistently makes good decisions on the floor.
And despite that...
they both had/have a lot of question marks.
Hey would you guys like to bring Bobby Brown, to try him out again?
by Burrito3 on Jun 2, 2009 11:04 PM PDT reply actions
He has a player option with Minnesota
I would bet he exercises it.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Say the Grizzlies take Rubio
What’s the worst case scenario? Rubio refuses to come over and take a buyout, then they essentially wasted the pick on nothing?
Yep pretty much
they’d have to trade his rights if he refused tho.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement.
Chad Ford
is just messing with us now. I say we don’t even post his next mock, unless he actually says something that either A) makes sense or B) makes him seem like he knows something we don’t.
and not argue and demean his comments?
I don’t think so. My keyboard says – bring it on, Chad!
by betweentheeyes on Jun 3, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Why stop there?
Lets make Chad Ford rue the day he got into sportswriting.
"I'm too weird ta live but much too rare ta die"
Oh, he'll rue the day!
The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.
by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 3, 2009 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Hehe
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Don't Pick Holiday!
I’m Sacramentan & UCLA alum and I really hope the Kings don’t pick Holiday. He’s a good kid but was a big disappointment this year in College. He has a lot of skill but never took charge and gave us bruin fans any reason to get excited, especially down the stretch.
He is years from reaching his potential. If it’s all the same, get a scorer with some energy and a burning will to win. Get Curry.
Tinman
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