Rubio may be about to come off the board. Don't be shocked if Minn. packages 5 and 6 for No. 2 from Memphis.
New T-Wolves GM David Kahn promised to make a splash - http://bit.ly/18WlRj - and I'm told it's Rubio if Griz comply and give up # 2.
Sam Amick, via Twitter
Wiz traded the number 5 to Minnesota. Minnesota has the 5th and 6th pick, which they could package to move up to 2.
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I thought the deal to pick up the #5 was good for Minny
Now watch them undo the whole thing by pulling the trigger on this stupid deal. I would rather have two prospects at #5 and #6 than any one player in this draft not named Blake Griffin.
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by section214 on Jun 23, 2009 5:11 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Kahn wants to "make a splash"
He’s been promising it since he ousted McHale. In the PR department it’s an accomplishment, but I agree that you could probably do pretty damn good with #5 and #6 with your rebuilding efforts.
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by Exhibit G on Jun 23, 2009 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I just thought of that...
The Wolves could potentially nab 2 of Thabeet/Curry/Evans/Harden/Flynn/Jennings if they just held onto both picks.
by Smills91 on Jun 23, 2009 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For what it's worth...
The inestimable Chad Ford reports that the Wolves are planning on keeping the picks.
Beware certitude.
by Reges on Jun 23, 2009 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, that means it's happening for sure now.
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by section214 on Jun 23, 2009 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, per the article
That’s what someone told Andy Katz (i.e. that they’re planning on keeping the picks)
Chad Ford just has his ugly mug on the article for some reason. He didn’t write it.
by nbrans on Jun 23, 2009 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm -
Ford quoting someone else’s source – that could be a double negative – I’m going to go lie down now, my head hurts.
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by section214 on Jun 23, 2009 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair
Ford mentioned Minnesota could be a player to move up to 2 before this trade even happened.
I’m listening to today’s BS Podcast. Ford was already speculating that Minnesota would try to package some picks to move up to Memphis’ spot.
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by Exhibit G on Jun 23, 2009 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Side note
If you’re a Rubio fan, don’t listen to the podcast. Simmons and Ford love Rubio, and it might be the most depressing podcast I’ve ever listened to. Lots of discussion of how Sacramento would be idiots to pass on him, but it’s ok cause he’ll probably be gone.
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by Exhibit G on Jun 23, 2009 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Now this is useful information.
You’ve just received the first rec I’ve ever given at StR. You should be pleased with yourself.
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by Juan Primo on Jun 23, 2009 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm often pleased with myself
Even if I don’t have a reason!
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by Exhibit G on Jun 23, 2009 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure
“Simmons and Ford love Rubio” should go on the Rubio Fan Club bulletin board.
by nbrans on Jun 23, 2009 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll pass along whatever tidbits I find
Then each person separates fact from crap. Hint: 99% of information this week will be crap.
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by Exhibit G on Jun 23, 2009 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was just making fun of Simmons and Ford
Not criticizing you for posting it.
by nbrans on Jun 23, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know
Their endorsement is a mixed blessing, especially when they both agree
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by Exhibit G on Jun 23, 2009 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
These guys talk about intangibles wayyyy too much
Intangibles only come into play if your tangibles are extremely good.
by nbrans on Jun 23, 2009 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Joe Morgan doesn't see the problem.
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by moproblemz on Jun 23, 2009 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I love that Simmons says
“I’ll move to whatever city the drafts this kid”
Obviously he won’t, but I’d love some positive attention for Kings, especially from Simmons.
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by vfettke on Jun 23, 2009 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
More Simmons (from Twitter)
Statement from Minnesota to its fans: “Good news! We have the No. 5 + 6 picks in a 4-player draft! Wait, where are you going?”
by smgmatt on Jun 23, 2009 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw that too
I love Simmons. Sometimes his basketball knowledge is awesome, sometimes (like this) it isn’t. I wonder who his 4 are? Obviously Griffin and Rubio. Who are the other two? Harden and Thabeet?
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by vfettke on Jun 23, 2009 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup...
That was my guess . . . unless he doesn’t think highly of Thabeet, in which case it may be someone like Curry.
by smgmatt on Jun 23, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Knowing the guy
He just said 4 to make the point that Minnesota shouldn’t be happy to have 2 picks on a weak draft. They are picking 5th and 6th so he said 4 to make it funny
by eduardo_m7 on Jun 23, 2009 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah you're probably right
because at 5 and 6 they have some great options, period.
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by vfettke on Jun 23, 2009 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriosuly
Put it this way. Minnesota has 2 chances of landing a very good player while every other team in the lottery only has one chance. If I was Minny I would stay right where I’m at
by eduardo_m7 on Jun 23, 2009 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me too
I think with the guys they have right now adding two guys like Curry and Evans who will contribute right away is the right move. They’ll be contending much sooner and for a longer period. But drafting Rubio and waiting for him to develop probably wastes Al Jefferson’s prime. I doubt they’ll wanna make the mistake of doing that with another great big man.
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by vfettke on Jun 23, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless
They can move #6 and #18 to get to #4 or better.
by misterbrister on Jun 24, 2009 5:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. Simmons attempts to make up for his lack of genuine insight with pithy remarks (like that one) and references to 80s pop culture.
"El once, chico. Eleven."
by Juan Primo on Jun 23, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry
But Simmons probably knows more about the game than many of us. Don’t confuse his humor with his sports knowledge. For the most part, he knows what he’s talking about
by eduardo_m7 on Jun 23, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah -
I’m the one that attempts to make up for my lack of genuine insight with pithy remarks and references to 80s pop culture (though in my case it’s 1880’s).
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by section214 on Jun 23, 2009 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't you guys have better things to converse over than Bill Simmons?
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by pookeyguru on Jun 23, 2009 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t really put much stock in Simmons’ opinions unless he’s talking about MLB, to be honest. I listened to the podcast where he filled in his NCAA bracket. He admitted he hadn’t been following college basketball much at all. I haven’t seen/heard anything since then to make me believe he’s an authority on evaluating this draft’s talent.
I happen to like pithy remarks and 80s references, so I have no problem with the guy.
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by Juan Primo on Jun 24, 2009 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair
In his latest Podcast with Chad Ford, he openly admits that he hasn’t watched much NCAA this year and can’t give opinions on all of the players in this draft.
by smgmatt on Jun 24, 2009 7:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It'll be more than a splash
if the #2 pick spits the bit while one or both of the 5-6 picks pan out. More like a monsoon.
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by section214 on Jun 23, 2009 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
Swinging for the fences, not just trying to get on base
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by Exhibit G on Jun 23, 2009 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just remember
When the whole draft process started, a lot of folks (not just here) viewed this as two players and then a huge dropoff. Those two players were Griffin and Rubio. Now, if you didn’t let any of the workouts and rumors sway your opinion, you could view this as trading two second-tier picks for a top-tier pick.
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by Exhibit G on Jun 23, 2009 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's an excellent point -
if we were making the deal.
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by section214 on Jun 23, 2009 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is...
It is a good point, but do we really feel that way now? I don’t consider Rubio a tier above say, Evans. His star power and put butts in the seats power is probably 2 tiers above any of them but that is different than playing ability.
by OrangeLazarus on Jun 23, 2009 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a moronic move
No matter how you look at it.
by thelettere on Jun 23, 2009 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Khan goes through with this
Minnesotans will soon be pining for the good ol’ McHale days.
by thelettere on Jun 23, 2009 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Couldn't agree more
With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Rickeke Flynenningday, point guard from Europe, Memphis, Syracuse, UCLA and Parts Unknown.
by otis29 on Jun 23, 2009 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Welcome To Minnesota, Ricky
Memphis will be ALL OVER moving that pick for the #5 and #6 picks. Memphis nees a lot of help, and they can use those picks or trade. The sacramento Rubiofest ends with this move.
by PurplePurple on Jun 23, 2009 5:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ridiculous
if Kahn does this. How can he think that Rubio is better than Flynn by a factor of Harden without ever working him out?
by furious.d on Jun 23, 2009 5:19 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Well....
Minnesota hasn’t offered this deal yet, but there’s no way Memphis rejects it if they do. Memphis could select two young studs, trade one, lots of options.
by PurplePurple on Jun 23, 2009 5:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This would solve a lot of problems for Memphis
With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Rickeke Flynenningday, point guard from Europe, Memphis, Syracuse, UCLA and Parts Unknown.
by otis29 on Jun 23, 2009 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There goes Rubio
Time will tell if this is a good move for MN. They are giving up a lot of assets and taking on more salary to get him. If Rubio is Nash, then it’s a great move. If Rubio is the next Brevin Knight (good passing and D, no jumper), then this will be a tough pill to sallow for their fans. Khan really is staking his reputation to Rubio’s at this point.
by SPTSJUNKIE on Jun 23, 2009 5:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ballsy move though...
Gotta like that the Wolves are taking chances, if you’re a Minnesota fan. Whcih you’re not….but still.
by PurplePurple on Jun 23, 2009 5:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Rather than trade both #5 and #6, leaving them with no picks
My guess is Kevin Love and #5 for #2. That gives them #2 (Rubio or Thabeet) and #6 (whoever’s left of Evans/Harden).
by nbrans on Jun 23, 2009 5:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Love
I forget where I read it, so it obviously carries less weight, but I heard Minny was balking at including Love
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by Exhibit G on Jun 23, 2009 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
Think of it this way . . . if they take Rubio, then there’s no other BIG to speak of in this draft.
Love ?? Evans
Love ?? Harden
If Kevin Love was in this draft, he’d be in the Top 3.
In my opinion:
5 & 6 < Love & 5/6
by smgmatt on Jun 23, 2009 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But they already have Jefferson
Jefferson and Love are basically identical players and they can’t really play at the same time because neither one is a center. I think they could give up Love to balance their roster.
- and Love for #2 may be too much, though, I agree with you there.
by nbrans on Jun 23, 2009 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ummm, Jefferson was traded to San Antonio this afternoon
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by Exhibit G on Jun 23, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ignore this
My brain is mush. Wrong Jefferson.
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by Exhibit G on Jun 23, 2009 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The OTHER Jefferson
You can call him Al.
by smgmatt on Jun 23, 2009 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps...
Although I don’t think that trading a big without having another big to replace him is a good plan.
by smgmatt on Jun 23, 2009 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah
I think in this scenario they would take Thabeet #2 rather than Rubio.
by nbrans on Jun 23, 2009 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In that case...
Thabeet > Love
By a factor of a Top 6 pick?
If Minny thinks so, then you might be in for some bad news when Rubio still falls to #4 (unless they can convince Presti to trade #3 for #5/#6 & #18 . . . wouldn’t that be something).
by smgmatt on Jun 23, 2009 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I already agree
That #5 and Love for #2 is too much. Maybe #18 and Love for #2 or something along those lines.
by nbrans on Jun 23, 2009 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
That would be a steal of a deal for Minny (assuming they think Thabeet is an upgrade – or better frontcourt partner for Jefferson), because they’d still have the 5 & 6 picks to fill their backcourt in a guard-heavy draft. Or they then overpay and package 5 & 6 if they still think Rubio is worth the hype and get back another later pick with #3 from Presti (#5 & #6 & #3 & #25?).
I even think this is a pretty good deal for Memphis because they don’t have an Al Jefferson blocking Love’s way, and they’d probably take him at #2 if he were in this draft anyway. Presti would happily trade #3 for #5 & #6 because Harden will most likely still be there, plus he gets another player as well.
Ok, that just depressed me . . . so I’m going to go lay down.
by smgmatt on Jun 23, 2009 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. Let's say Minny trades love and ends up with #2, #5 and #6
I think they go Thabeet, Curry and Evans/Harden
Curry
Evans
?
Jefferson
Thabeet
Not a bad start.
by nbrans on Jun 23, 2009 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gomes/Brewer
Both play the 3, and that’s what I’m saying.
“Big Splash” indeed.
Even if they overpaid to get Rubio, swingmen are the easiest position to fill.
by smgmatt on Jun 23, 2009 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So how about
Love and the #6 for the #2?
by misterbrister on Jun 23, 2009 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Way too much.
Love would be a top 5 pick in this draft, easily, perhaps even the 2nd pick.
by cabz on Jun 23, 2009 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They don't even have to package #5 and #6...
Trading both of those just to move up 3 spots is actually massively overpaying in this draft. I think even just #5 + #18 + another pick could be enough. They could end up with Rubio + Thabeet, which makes for a nice young core. Eventually they could trade one of Jefferson/Love for another very good young player depending on what needs are most pressing.
Anyway, I am not going to cry over this. If Rubio goes, Rubio goes. Stick to taking the best player on the board, which probably is Evans. Hope for John Wall or one of the good bigs next year.
by TheRaven on Jun 23, 2009 5:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the deal might be...
- and #6 for #2 and #27
by Smills91 on Jun 23, 2009 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The wolves have the #5, #6, #18 and #28 to barter with. I wouldn’t be shocked if they could get something done for #5 + #18 for #2
by Ebomb on Jun 23, 2009 5:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That makes much more sense
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by section214 on Jun 23, 2009 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really that much different than #4 and #23, just saying...
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by moproblemz on Jun 23, 2009 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very true
Although 4 players get picked between #18 and #23. And who knows if this even interests Memphis, they already own #27 I believe.
by Ebomb on Jun 23, 2009 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting point
That could be the counter-offer to get #5 & #6 from Minny.
by smgmatt on Jun 23, 2009 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kings could offer...
4 and 23 at that juncture…I don’t see why the Wolves offer would be better…as that extra player(Tyreke Evans or Thabeet is probably worth more than the drop-off from 18-23.
by Smills91 on Jun 23, 2009 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would all depend
On who they think the Kings might take, then the Wolves #18 and paying #5 salary versus #4 salary are both selling points for MN.
by Ebomb on Jun 23, 2009 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meh
if the Wolves do that, they’re dumb IMO. They need a lot of help. Getting a Curry and Evans would help them more.
But if they do go get Rubio …. more power to them. Let’s get the Evans or Flynn jersey ready for print.
Booyah!
by what_the_crap on Jun 23, 2009 5:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Question (to put things into perspective)
If for some reason (e.g. Griffin/Thabeet/Harden) Rubio still falls to #4, who here trades him for #6 & #18?
by smgmatt on Jun 23, 2009 5:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not I, but I love my fish tacos.
He really has the greatest upside (oh god I have read too much draft info) out of any of the prospects. If Evans becomes a star in the league its as a SG not a PG. Flynn is a solid pick at #6 and if you can move into the lottery with #18 and #23 to pick a guy like Terrence Williams that would be great. I just feel that we need stars and Rubio has the best possibility of filling a need and becoming a star (best of both worlds).
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by moproblemz on Jun 23, 2009 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's my point
If Rubio > #6 & #18, then Memphis may be pushing for #5 & #6, which would be a GREAT deal for them.
by smgmatt on Jun 23, 2009 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I trade him for 5 or 6 and Kevin Love
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by vfettke on Jun 23, 2009 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again
If it’s 5/6 & Kevin Love (or even 5 & 6), Memphis takes the deal and runs.
The question is whether Rubio is worth more or less than 5/6 & 18.
by smgmatt on Jun 23, 2009 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Minnesota will probably have to move some move eventually
After this trade, they have 8 big man (Jefferson, Love, Smith, Thomas, Songaila, Pecherov, Madsen and Cardinal) while theonly other players are Brewer (injured yet?), Telfair (hmmm) and Ryan Gomes (I don’t know about Bobby Brown)
by KingsFanfromCentralEurope on Jun 23, 2009 5:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
*make some move
it’s 3am here…
by KingsFanfromCentralEurope on Jun 23, 2009 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Minnesota makes a strong play for John Wall in 2010.
And whoever else is available in the lottery for the next half decade.
by Deleran on Jun 23, 2009 5:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Plus all of our first born sons
Damn those cradle robbers!
by CloudyEyes on Jun 23, 2009 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
See what I'm saying here
Is that they’re gonna be terrible.
by Deleran on Jun 23, 2009 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
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by Holmdel on Jun 23, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Optimistic?
Maybe i’m just being optimistic as well but since Minny just traded their PG/SG and SG/SF I don’t see them combining the picks to move up. At 5 and 6 they could end up with Evans and Curry and their roster would be better filled out. Unless Memphis does a 6 & 16 for 2 swap I still think we land Ricky.
by Doubl3Dos3 on Jun 23, 2009 6:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
A team comprised of
Curry
Evans
whoever their SF is
Love
Jefferson
that’s a scary young team. They’d be insane to just trade those two for Rubio. If we had the 4 and the 5 or the 4 and the 6 and Petrie traded up for Rubio I’d be pissed too.
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by vfettke on Jun 23, 2009 6:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yup
Exactly. That’s why that’s not happening. The only think I’m afraid of is one of their picks and 16. But then I think if Memphis is planning on trading down they want Evans or Thabeet who won’t be there if Rubio goes 2 and Thabeet goes to OK.
by Doubl3Dos3 on Jun 23, 2009 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So they take Evans
At this point I’d take Evans at 4, and package him with #23 and Donte for Rubio. That’s the most I’m willing to give up.
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by vfettke on Jun 23, 2009 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I were Memphis
and you offered me #23 and Donte for #2 Rubio, I’d hang up and never talk to you again. You forget that most of the league (i.e. all other 29 teams except perhaps Houston) view Donte differently than we do.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement.
by Aykis16 on Jun 24, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You missed Evans (4th pick)
also in that package
by eduardo_m7 on Jun 24, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which is I thnik would too much
That’s just me
by eduardo_m7 on Jun 24, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless a deal is already done...
I don’t think Minnesota has their eyes on the #2 pick. Why would you make a trade for a big asset like the #5 pick only to hope that you can trade one of your top-6 picks and change for #2?
by cabz on Jun 23, 2009 7:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
Why would you make a trade for a big asset like the #5 pick only to hope that you can trade one of your top-6 picks and change for #2?
Because it has value either way?
I don’t see how acquiring #5 excludes the possibility of acquiring #2.
by smgmatt on Jun 23, 2009 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You misread my comment, I think.
Acquiring #5 does not exclude anything. Acquiring #5 in the hope of trading for #2 (hope, and not certainty, as in not yet having a deal agreed to in principle beforehand) just seems silly.
by cabz on Jun 23, 2009 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not necessarily
Because then the backup plan to getting #2 is that you still have two really great picks
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by vfettke on Jun 23, 2009 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps.
But when trading for a draft pick two days before the draft I assume most teams would value it based on who they think is available at that spot, not a what-if scenario in which the interest of the other party is unconfirmed. Call me crazy, but I just don’t believe most GMs would leave something like that to chance (then again, we’re talking about Wallace and a replacement for McHale that has not yet had a chance to establish his sanity, or lack of).
by cabz on Jun 23, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still...
There are going to be good guards available at #4 no matter who goes at #2 and #3. Petrie will not and should not blink…
by OrangeLazarus on Jun 23, 2009 7:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Won't his eyes be really dry when Thursday rolls around?
"It would be my honor to be your new stepfather."
by PhutureKings on Jun 23, 2009 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have calmed myself
because I realized that 5 minutes after the pick It will dawn on me that this is the guy I wanted all along.
by ElRonToro on Jun 23, 2009 9:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We'll be fine -
Right up to the moment where GP drafts Patrick Ewing IV with the 23rd pick.
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