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"One rumored deal has the Griz and Kings completing a transaction that would include the No. 2 pick along with Jason Thompson and Francisco Garcia."

Also, looks less likley that Minny would package 5 and 6 for #2. Overall, this is a good read on many rumors coming out of Memphis.

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No mention of the No. 4

… which makes it seem like a really weird trade to me.

by Ziller on Jun 24, 2009 4:46 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

The article specifically mentions that they want to trade down to target Evans, Curry, or Harden. Then it says this is the most likely deal? Methinks there’s more to the story than the reporter got.

by furious.d on Jun 24, 2009 7:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you trade JT in a package for the #2....

Then you HAVE to get either Thabeet or Hill with (most likely) the #4 pick, or you have no PF that can start next year.

Personally, I think its a bunch of BS by Memphis trying to get someone to improve their offer for the #2 pick.

Now, after Minn getting the #5 pick, I think the Knicks are getting desperate in finding a way to get Curry. I have been reading also that they are trying to get a late 1st round pick. If Flynn is the King’s man, then I would love to see the Kings trade down to #8 and pick up that additional pick. Then maybe we could combine those 2 late round picks and move up high enough to pick up Blair.

We know Blair is tough and Flynn showd enough toughness for me during Syracuse’s tournament run. I think we would end up with 2 NBA ready players.

by Fredman on Jun 24, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No you don't

I’d offer our wad in Free Agency to Brandon Bass. Lock him up in a declining contract or such, but make it as lucrative as possible NOW, to impeded hte Mavs from re-signing him.

Then you get a potential CHEAP PF for like 6-7 million a year on average AND Ricky Rubio to dish him the ball.

by Smills91 on Jun 24, 2009 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would be kinda sad if this deal happens...

but it looks like we keep the 2nd and 4th pick and dump Cisco’s salary. Does that make us draft Jordan Hill? We would be one deep in the front court, we could sign Gortat and Diogu and draft Harden or Derozan and Rubio. Keeping Kenny Thomas’ expiring on the books, maybe Thomas and Martin are enough to land a Chris Bosh type player. Leaving us with

Rubio/Udrih
Harden/Greene
Nocioni/Greene
Bosh/Diogu
Gortat/Hawes

Maybe that team is good.

Hope

by Ultrakingsfan on Jun 24, 2009 4:48 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Jordan Hill

I highly doubt that Petrie is doing this so that he can pick Jordan Hill. According to sroufe’s post, Hill hasn’t even worked out for the Kings. I think if Petrie were to pick a player that hasn’t worked out for him at #2 it would be Thabeet over Jordan Hill.

Kings rule! (They are royalty - right?)

by dalt99 on Jun 24, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whoa big fella

You start off with some decent scenarios, but Bosh? Getting him would take a miracle.

by dbfish on Jun 24, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

and why are we getting bosh in the last year of his contract

So he can leave and sign with the Knicks are back to Toronto…PLZ

by Fredman on Jun 24, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not buying

That’s a lot to give up for a #2 pick. And realistically, who would we grab at #2 that’s better than JT? Not to mention that much youth would be tough to deal with.

by misterbrister on Jun 24, 2009 4:59 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Good point

But… If you move up to get him at 2, who do you take at 4? Wouldn’t it be more beneficial to move either JT or Cisco (but not both) and the #4 to move up?

by misterbrister on Jun 24, 2009 5:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If this was true

I think Hill becomes the lock at 4….Picking up Diogu’s option becomes a lock,,unless we’re sure he can be resigned. In this Scenario I think Rubio gets the pick at 2…and they hope they can pick up a sf with the 23 or that Greene blossoms. I would not do this trade and if I did I would Lobby hard for Noce over Garcia.

by ElRonToro on Jun 24, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't do it

All the players that warrent being taken this high are guards, and Thabeet. If the kings do get Rubio, I would love to see him and Thompson play together….pick and rolls forever.

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by Ellimist on Jun 24, 2009 5:07 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

agreed

that would be pretty to watch. I may be drinking too much of the JT kool-aid, but I want to keep this kid around. I like his game, love his work ethic, and would love to see him blossom as a King (especially if we find someone to throw him the ball).

by misterbrister on Jun 24, 2009 5:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Losing JT very difficult...

Outside of his game, work ethic and just plain good attitude, remember he played every game for the kings. His durability is a bonus many players do not have.

by STH114 on Jun 24, 2009 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I wouldn't be thrilled about losing JT

But this would be a tempting deal.

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by otis29 on Jun 24, 2009 5:42 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather trade Hawes

and use the #4 to grab Thabeet.

by misterbrister on Jun 24, 2009 5:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love JT

But Spencer is two years younger and may be able to do more things for you offensively down the road. Either way, it would be a tough decision.

I guess you’d have to decide who is more easily replaceable? I’m not a Thabeet fan, but if Petrie feels differently, I think I’d be ok with losing Hawes.

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by otis29 on Jun 24, 2009 5:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

JT is a much better defender

and I don’t think will be all that far behind Spencer in offense either.

by thelettere on Jun 24, 2009 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No way that JT is a better defender

At least not yet; he averaged more fouls than Hawes.

by kingsfan300 on Jun 24, 2009 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The fouls must stop

and I trust they will. I do believe, however, he has a much better defensive skill set – Hawes gets lots of blocks but is lacking in many defensive fundamentals.

by thelettere on Jun 24, 2009 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, he's not

He might be a bit bettter (although he fouls like it’s going out of style) but he’s not “much” better. And Spencer already is a better offensive player who is a couple of years younger. Spencer just brings more to the table.

by Kusian on Jun 24, 2009 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kings were 1 of the worst teams in the league in interior defense last year

Who’s fault is that? JT’s foul rate was not that much worse than Hawes, and it was his freshman year – it’s excusable – and I expect to see significant improvement in all areas this year. Hawes, meanwhile, made statistical improvement in only 2 areas – assists and 3-point shooting. However, his turnover rate also went up – so the only good sign coming out of Hawes these days is his 3-point shooting – not his defense.

by thelettere on Jun 24, 2009 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I find it hard (i know, that's what she said)

to blame any of our interior bigs for all of our woes down there last year. Those guys had to commit a lot of fouls because our wing players couldn’t consistently stay in front of their men. (exception being Salmons for his portion of the year).

by misterbrister on Jun 24, 2009 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Clearly the 20 year center

playing his first substantial minutes in the NBA will never be a good defender during his career.

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by ForThree on Jun 24, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Spencer's rotation D

improved a ton in the 2nd half of the season

by ElRonToro on Jun 24, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He had six blocks

in the first game of the season. He improved his D a ton over the offseason

"I'm too weird ta live but much too rare ta die"

by aKingisBored on Jun 24, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like both but I think Hawes brings more to the table

He has more weapons, 3pt shot, consistent mid range shot, low post skills, even some clutch shooting, it’s proven he can rebound hard and block shots not consistently, but he is younger and that’s and advantage too. But that’s me, I like Shawes more

by Kreuz on Jun 24, 2009 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

I think he’s much more competent offensively than Ben Wallace. He’s pretty good at putbacks, he has shown flashes of a 15 foot jump shot, and he’s a very good free throw shooter for a big man. Because of his ability to catch and finish, I think the better comparison is a slightly taller and slightly more coordinated Tyson Chandler.

He is a really terrible passer though.

by nbrans on Jun 24, 2009 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've

heard the ceiling for him would be a Tyson Chandler type

Booyah!

by what_the_crap on Jun 24, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You don'y have to guard Chandler in most sets, that's why you see him get free for the ally-oops.

Thabeet is just too big to leave alone and in a few years will have one or two post moves in his bag. Now, Chandler is more athletic but he has never developed any kind of offensive game.

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by jjham15 on Jun 24, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well said

I agree completely

"I'm too weird ta live but much too rare ta die"

by aKingisBored on Jun 24, 2009 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would much rather

keep both of them

"I'm too weird ta live but much too rare ta die"

by aKingisBored on Jun 24, 2009 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

agree

JT will be a better all around NBA player than Spencer Hawes. Particularly with regard to interior D.

"When the going gets Weird, the Weird turn professional."
(Hunter Thompson)

by Mucho Moss on Jun 24, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Take Rubio and Curry or Harden

Send Martin, #23 or #31 and maybe a future pick to the Raptors for Bosh. Resign Diogu or sign Gortat

Rubio, Beno
Curry/Harden
Noc
Bosh
Hawes

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by vfettke on Jun 24, 2009 7:01 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

They know they're probably going to lose him in 2010

Colangelo’s been talking abou signing and trading him then or trading him for useful pieces now

www.mancancook.net

by vfettke on Jun 24, 2009 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And why

would Bosh re-sign with us, or agree to a sign and trade to us?

It just seems like if he’s frustrated by the lack of talent and the losing in Toronto, he’s not going to be long for Sacramento.

by furious.d on Jun 24, 2009 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm Pooking

I take this back. I was under the impression we’d keep #4, which could be used for Curry to replace Martin who we could trade for Bosh. All speculative of course. We only have a certain number of trade assets and I’m only willing to part with one of them for the #2 pick.

www.mancancook.net

by vfettke on Jun 24, 2009 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't forget K9

His contract is another chip in our pocket.

I'm a limousine-riding, jet-flying, kiss-stealing, wheeling-dealing son of a gun!!! Wooooo!!!

by tlfairgo on Jun 24, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

True

What I meant by assets are guys that are important to our on the court efforts. That’s Hawes, JT, Martin, Greene (maybe), and our picks. So one of those is my limit

www.mancancook.net

by vfettke on Jun 24, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I agree.

I'm a limousine-riding, jet-flying, kiss-stealing, wheeling-dealing son of a gun!!! Wooooo!!!

by tlfairgo on Jun 24, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If

Petrie thinks it’s worth it, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt. I would definitely miss JT, though.

by babasin on Jun 24, 2009 7:03 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This trade makes no sense

Because Garcia has some stipulations on his contract like Base Year Comp. next season and his contract is a poison pill right now….

BOOK IT!

by kingme18 on Jun 24, 2009 7:04 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It would actually probably work ok

Because the Grizzlies have cap space. If they were over the cap, then you would be correct.

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by Kfan in Korea on Jun 24, 2009 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Outlandish

JT and CIsco for the #2? The only way that works, IMO, is if #2 and #4 are packaged to the Clippers for the #1 – Blake Griffin.

In other I don’t believe it news:
- The Clippers than package Baron Davis to the Clippers for Monta Ellis
- No way Minnesota packages the pale face of a dairyland team who represented them at the draft lottery anywhere.

by betweentheeyes on Jun 24, 2009 7:05 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

There are a multitude of ways that it could improve us

Why the Griz do it, I don’t quite get. I guess to get out from under Jaric.

by furious.d on Jun 24, 2009 7:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Some of the most lopsided trades I have ever heard of seem to come out of the Memphis press:

Kevin Love and the #6 fo the #2
Cisco and JT for the #2
Rajon Rondo for the #2

To me, it seems like the stories are designed to push up the value of the pick (which my opinion isn’t all that great this year).

I wouldn’t be caught dead offering JT for the #2. Sorry. Cisco and the #4 for the #2, sure, but both Cisco and JT. No way.

by R-Man on Jun 24, 2009 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

jt and garcia for two, darrel arthur and milicic i wont argue with that

by jphilx on Jun 24, 2009 7:10 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

doesn't work

….in due to CBA.

by Smills91 on Jun 24, 2009 7:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How a deal COULD work

Kings deal:
Francisco Garcia
Jason Thompson
Kenny Thomas

Grizz deal:

  1. overall pick – Rubio
    Darko Milicic
    Marko Jaric
    Darrell Arthur

by Smills91 on Jun 24, 2009 7:18 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

boy, this autoformatting situation is really becoming a problem

also, why include Milicic and Thomas in this trade?

by furious.d on Jun 24, 2009 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thomas/Milicic...

…is due to Garcia’s PPP status. You gotta increase the amount of salary overall to the trade to create a large enough window (25% margin between salaries) for Memphis to absorb Cisco’s new deal.

This trade does that.

by Smills91 on Jun 24, 2009 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i seriously doubt that petrie will break the bank for a deal like this though…jt for 2 pick straight up would be fine. in this draft jt would be in the top 5 if he was in it. we could take a swing at acquiring speights from the sixers using garcia to replace JT. younger, and probably the same skill set as him

rubio/udrih
martin/evans
noc/greene
speights/diogu
Hawes/Heytvelt

by jphilx on Jun 24, 2009 7:27 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Only one more day of speculation, may as well go big...

There now I've met the 75 word count. -pookeyguru

by moproblemz on Jun 24, 2009 7:42 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't like this deal

Unless the Kings get another young big somewhere, you don’t move JT for an unknown. Maybe Petrie pulls the trigger on this, drafts Rubio at #2 and trades the #4 to NY for the #8 and David Lee? Or some other move that bings a young big back in to the mix? By itself, this trade rumor seems odd. In conjunction with other moves, maybe it works.

by PurplePurple on Jun 24, 2009 7:46 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Dont see it happening...

…but I approve that deal.

Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal

by 27freethrows on Jun 24, 2009 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

As far as PF's go.

Maybe Arthur is apart of the deal? Maybe, you look to sign a PF like Lee/Millsap or even Varaejao? There are other option ot filling the 4, IF you truly think Rubio is THAT GUY!

by Smills91 on Jun 24, 2009 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

*sigh*

If someone yells fire, I guess you guys stampede. The “trade rumor” comes from a source of dubious reliability in memphis. He didn’t even accredited it to “anonymous sources”, in fact he doesn’t mention the source at all.

Even if he did, I can tell you the source: The Memphis front office. They are desperately doing everything they can to create a bidding war for this pick, despite the fact that Thabeet and Rubio both wrecked some of the value in it by completely rejecting them.

Don’t stress. Petrie has made some good trades and some bad trades, but even this rumored one is beyond any bad trade he could ever make.

by TheRaven on Jun 24, 2009 8:05 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Sigh

If you don’t like stampedes, get off of the old prairie.

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by section214 on Jun 24, 2009 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Really?

You don’t expect people on a NBA blog to discuss a trade rumor regarding one if their you assets?

Why are you here? To not talk about the Kings rumors/options?

Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal

by 27freethrows on Jun 24, 2009 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Especially this time of year

there’s nothing else to discuss the day before the draft. Hell, it’ll be even slower next month during the moratorium. We’ll have nothing else to talk about other than rumors.

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by vfettke on Jun 24, 2009 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not stampeding

Its having fun discussing a trade rumor on a message board.

by PurplePurple on Jun 24, 2009 8:08 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Awesome

If we get the #2 and #4.

by cbsf on Jun 24, 2009 8:12 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

According to Jerry Reynolds yesterday

We are not giving up assets to move up because we don’t have enough pieces to do so.

I agree with Raven. This is a rumor from an unreliable source. It might be tipping their hand as to what Memphis is asking for, but the price is too high, and there’s no way the Kings do this deal.

I could see #4 and cash for #2. I can’t envision any scenario where we have both the 4 and the 2, unless we just buy the pick, which Memphis doesn’t want to do.

The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.

by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 24, 2009 8:22 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

At this point they're just trying to raise the value of the pick

Probably because they want Minny’s 5 and 6, which Minny would be stupid to do

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by vfettke on Jun 24, 2009 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really stupid.

Memphis knows that they get embarrassed if they pick Rubio, and they believe that they can move down and still get who they want. But since Rubio hasn’t met with or worked out for Minny, there are other PG options that are more sure things for them.

The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.

by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 24, 2009 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ahhhhh why does it take too long to be thursday already………all this speculation’s has been more thrilling than our season…..

by pakyubai on Jun 24, 2009 8:34 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Trade Thompson & Gardcia for #2?

That might be the most idiodic rumor out there! Why give up 2 young good players who can contribute and help build the team for a non-proven #2 pick in a weak draft? Makes no sense. The team is so bad, we need to acquire assets and not just hype or jersey sales (thanks, Aileen).

by Lassie on Jun 24, 2009 8:45 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It's not really idiotic

But it would be risky. I keep hearing this is a weak draft, but I don’t think we will know that for sure until far down the road.

I love JT as much as anyone, but we do need to be realistic about his performance so far, and his future potential. if Petrie feels the #2 pick will be a standout player in the league, he should be sorely tempted to make that kind of deal.

With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Rickeke Flynenningday, point guard from Europe, Memphis, Syracuse, UCLA and Parts Unknown.

by otis29 on Jun 24, 2009 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe the #2 isn't for us?

what if its for the Celts in exchange for Allen and Rondo? (we’d probably give up KMart and other parts) We end up with Rondo and Evans. Or some other deal?

by longtimelistenerfirsttimecaller on Jun 24, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Call Memphis' bluff

Memphis is going to milk this up until it is their turn to pick in the draft. Their asking price is too high and I don’t think they have anything to package that pick with. In the long run, they will be prepared to take their #2 guy on the board. Not sure they can pass on Thabeet.

by theinsider on Jun 24, 2009 8:58 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Chalk this up to gamemanshipnessity of the draft

I think Petrie will stand pat and take whoever’s left at #4, whether it be Evans, Rubio, or Flynn (in that order?)—regardless of what I posted earlier in the draft contest.

There’s too many what-if situations when picking so high, and I think all three of these guys aren’t worth sacrificing any picks/players to move up in the draft.

In Petrie we trust.

by clicc916 on Jun 24, 2009 9:13 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t trust Petrie all that much, to be frank, but I do agree that we stand pat. Petrie is deliberate (slow) and conservative. He essentially never makes deals around the draft. This year will be no different.

by Carl on Jun 24, 2009 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the Kings are content at this point to know Tyreke Evans or Stephen Curry will be available when they pick. And they will choose between those two. Whether Rubio is available or not, I do not think matters, as they have no intention to pick him. I would like to be wrong, but all signs say otherwise.

As far as rumored deal, no way.

by bench_blob on Jun 24, 2009 9:22 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Can't happen

As LPA mentioned, Jerry Reynolds specifically said something like this isn’t going to happen. On top of that, you can’t trade Thompson unless a big man comes back to replace him. So, if this trade were to go down, the Kings may be looking at Thabeet and not Rubio with the #2 pick. I don’t see how Thabeet really fits with Hawes, as Spencer isn’t quick enough to play power forward. I’m just not seeing this.

One other thing I think is interesting is that Jerry said there are 3 or 4 guys they’re looking at and one they think is going to be significantly better than the others. Absolutely NOTHING the Kings have said gives any indication of which guy that might be.

by Carl on Jun 24, 2009 9:40 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think they like Evans...

Jerry has dropped hints along the way that it is Evans and not Rubio that they like. I think the doomsday scenario is if Evans and Rubio are picked and Thabeet falls to us at 4. If that was the case, I think we would take Curry or Flynn.

by R-Man on Jun 24, 2009 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thabeet at #4?

If that’s the case, this may motivate Petrie to take Thabeet and trade down (Minnesota’s #5 plus cash/throwaway players)?

Really though, I don’t think Thabeet will fall out of the top 3.

We must be anxious here—we’re talking about draft positions and picks as if we have inside knowledge. Oh well, that’s what fandom is all about.

by clicc916 on Jun 24, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Technically

JR said they would not trade assets to move up from 4…this is not a move up but rather in addition to, Still, I vote no

by ElRonToro on Jun 24, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's next?

JT, Martin and Donte for Rondo and Ray Allen (contract)? Pre-draft trade rumors always get weird.

by bignerd on Jun 24, 2009 9:50 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Trade starting PF for #2?

REALLY?? Thabeet is unproven and probably overrated. He should have dominated the boards in college when playing against 6’9" centers. He doesn’t rebound out of his area well with little lateral quickness. JT is a mulitpositional big and was only a rookie. Let’s not go the way of the Kings and sending away talent before giving them the appropriate amount of time to develop. And Garcia too? Another multi-positional 6th man who can handle the ball and knock down perimeter shots. Just don’t see it to land another center or a 30-40% PG….International ball is very different from the NBA. Go with someone who can get their own shot (a premier asset in the NBA) like Evans or Curry. Evans can also provide the defense at guard the Kings have lacked since Doug Christie. He has the ability to create mismatches as well. I think a backcourt of Evans and Martin would be very potent. Good start with the young bigs and other draft pieces Pietre can pick. Go Kings!!

by Lassie on Jun 24, 2009 9:56 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

How do you know

The Kings wouldn’t be trying to move to the #2 to get Evans, and not Rubio?

With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Rickeke Flynenningday, point guard from Europe, Memphis, Syracuse, UCLA and Parts Unknown.

by otis29 on Jun 24, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about jennings?

i still think he can be the stud of this draft.

him or derozan.

both have so much potential its insane

Punjabi by Nature

by Robby1987 on Jun 24, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

For whatever reason

Jennings’ draft position is plummeting. I still like him, but he’s scaring off a lot of people.

With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Rickeke Flynenningday, point guard from Europe, Memphis, Syracuse, UCLA and Parts Unknown.

by otis29 on Jun 24, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

rumors in a vacuum...

While most of these rumors are smokescreens, clearly some have legs (e.g. the celtics seeming interest in moving Rondo won’t go away)… so in evaluating a rumor like this that might not make sense on its own, you have to factor in that it might be part of or contingent on another deal. So maybe this rumor makes no sense, but what if there was a play for Tyrus Thomas (rumored to be on the block) or for Rondo, or Josh Smith, or, heaven help us, Bosh… If a bunch of trades (not just picks) but players occur in the next few days and we are NOT part of that, I will be pretty frustrated. As constituted now, whether its Rubio, or Curry or Evans, we aren’t winning a lot of games next year, or the year after that.

by longtimelistenerfirsttimecaller on Jun 24, 2009 10:00 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Mock Draft Horror

Draft Express mock draft now has us passing up Tyreke Evans and Ricky Rubio (going #5 and #6) for Jonny Flynn…..yikes.

by bench_blob on Jun 24, 2009 10:01 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

wow

that would be a killing for the Wolves.

Booyah!

by what_the_crap on Jun 24, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trade to move to #2

The point being, the Kings don’t need to trade away the few assets they have to move up to #2 in this draft. Seems there will be a quality pick at #4 regardless. Also curious to see what Portland does this year as they’ve been very active on draft day recently and have a considerable amount of young talented players. Also, you gotta like the leadership and tenacity Flynn has displayed (not sure if #4 is accurate, but like his drive and heart).
But, who are we….if we had the answers, we’d be working in some team’s draft war room. This should be fun!

by Lassie on Jun 24, 2009 10:17 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

WE'RE GETTING KOBE'

beef burgers for the draft party.

Oh, I’m sorry, I hope no one thought that this sounded like some sort of reliable information regarding basketball.

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.

by andy sims on Jun 24, 2009 11:04 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It doesn't even sound like reliable info regarding the menu

Don’t think the Maloofs can afford Kobe beef when they’re flying coach.

by furious.d on Jun 24, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well, to be fair

I was talking about my personal draft party.

Which, to be honest, isn’t happening because I’ve just moved and am horribly disorganized.

But I had some really great Kobe sliders at Bistro 33 a couple weekends ago.

Which, I suppose, lends creedence to this fascinating rumors.

sims out.

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.

by andy sims on Jun 24, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can we bait and switch?

Let them think it’s Jason + Garcia, but give them LaSalle + Garcia?

by Bitgod on Jun 24, 2009 11:09 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If this deal is made..

I think I’d be content if at #2 Petrie takes a PG that he believes is head over shoulders above the other prospects, and then takes DeJuan Blair at #4. Forget Thabeet, forget Hill, Blair is the beast any team would love to have.

Sure he’s undersized and there is some speculation about his knees, but the man is a competitor with decent athleticism and a freakish wingspan. He’s lost a significant amount of weight (roughly 40lbs, which can only aid his knees) since he’s trained with David Thorpe and he seems to be keeping it off. He can be a great defender in the mold of a Chuck Hayes, a tenacious Paul Millsap-like rebounder (only better), an underrated finisher in the paint, and the man is just plain tough.

I’d miss Thompson as much as anyone else, but if there really is a franchise-changing PG that Petrie wants and there’s a competent player to fill Thompson’s role, why not?

by mellol on Jun 24, 2009 11:32 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

No amount of raving

can get me excited about Blair, but I hope he proves me wrong because he seems like a fun character for the NBA.

by furious.d on Jun 24, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah I feel like

Blair is nothing more than a sheldon williams type of player.

by chancelot on Jun 24, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

or, or

or we just STAY at 4 and pick up the best player available!!!!

by silverguy on Jun 24, 2009 1:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If this is a deal that does not involve our #4

then Petrie has my permission to get ’er done

www.mancancook.net

by vfettke on Jun 24, 2009 1:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If the #4 isn't packaged, I'd do it

Even if we need to take on a big contract in the process, I’d still take it. JT and bad contract for Rubio or whoever with the 2nd is a good deal. Garcia to me doesn’t really have much positive value as far as his contract is concerned (it’s about even).

by CloudyEyes on Jun 24, 2009 2:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Not sure but

I’m guessing in this proposed deal other salary would be coming back to Sacramento. It’s not like it would be a deal to free up salary. the main components would be the #2 pick and JT/Garcia.

by PurplePurple on Jun 24, 2009 3:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It would free up salary

It would free up about 4 mill.

by kwill on Jun 24, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If this deal really went down

Rubio and Thabeet make the most sense but I wouldn’t completely discount them drafting Rubio and Tyreke.

Those might be the two highest rated players on their board, and the main thing on a team as down as the Kings are right now is to add as much raw talent as possible. I also think Tyreke might be able to play at the 3 some.

"When the going gets Weird, the Weird turn professional."
(Hunter Thompson)

by Mucho Moss on Jun 24, 2009 3:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It also makes Martin expendable

to trade for a good big man

www.mancancook.net

by vfettke on Jun 24, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Martin would be amazing with rubio though.

One of the best pure shooters in the NBA and due to the FAIL of Beno I think we have forgotten Kevin’s ability to finish athletic alley oops. And anyways isn’t it a rule of thumb never to trade big for small.

Hope

by Ultrakingsfan on Jun 24, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If this trade goes down

we have a major hole at the 4 spot. If this trade went down I’d take Rubio at 2, Harden/Evans at 4, and trade the worse player out of Harden/Evans and Martin, while picking up a good 4 in the next draft.

"Greed is the inventor of injustice as well as the current enforcer." - Julian Casablancas

by submison on Jun 24, 2009 4:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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