A source, however, says that there's one huge missing piece in the picture: GM Geoff Petrie has stayed quiet as the debate has raged over what to do and he continues to have the biggest voice on the basketball staff. ... [S]everal GMs and scouts believe the talk of not taking Rubio is merely a smoke screen to keep Minnesota or the Knicks or any other team interested in him from making deals to jump ahead of the Kings in order to get Rubio.
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I have already heard "smokescreen" more this week
than I have my entire life leading up to this point.
I can’t wait for tomorrow.
by Charlieb on Jun 24, 2009 6:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Typical Petrie
Just staying in the background, making his decision while everyone argues. I do believe it will be HIS decision at the end of the day and I trust the guy.
by eduardo_m7 on Jun 24, 2009 6:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He was too busy swinging from Kobe's nads.
"Or, as Randy Jackson would say: Not feelin’ it, dawg."
-bench-blob- posting virgin.
by jjham15 on Jun 24, 2009 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn you Bucher
quit trying to blow away the smokescreen!
Actually, I don’t know who I want any more, I’m exhausted. Can we trade the pick for someone’s pick next year?
by Bitgod on Jun 24, 2009 6:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Puff Puff give Bucher!
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on Jun 24, 2009 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Geez
Why didn’t any of you idiots come up with this theory? I come here looking for insight, and all I get is talk about…
Sorry.
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by andy sims on Jun 24, 2009 6:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Do you have a job yet?
and if so, where? I miss your silky smooth voice.
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by vfettke on Jun 24, 2009 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not yet
Been so busy moving, I’ve not even looked, to be honest.
I was going to see about becoming Ziller’s body man, but if he has to be places at 6am, that’s completely out of the question.
But thank you for asking, and describing my voice as silky, presumably as in “rendered by worms.”
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Jun 24, 2009 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You should be the host of the StR podcast
probably doesn’t pay a damn thing, but it’d still be sweet
Seriously though, I’m dying without an alternative station in the area
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by vfettke on Jun 24, 2009 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be happy to help
It’d be fun, even though it’s obvious from my postings I know shite about shinola. But I’ll sit in on a panel about anything.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Jun 24, 2009 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is all assuming Ziller ever plans to have an StR podcast
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by vfettke on Jun 24, 2009 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't worry you got 9 months of unemployment payments to cash out.
Finding a job for me has been a nightmare as a recent math graduate, the firings are slowing up but no one is hiring. Its looking more and more like I am going to end up at a Starbucks for awhile.
There now I've met the 75 word count. -pookeyguru
by moproblemz on Jun 24, 2009 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously, Mo
I’m grateful you think I could get a degree in something like mathematics. I got a worthless Communications degree.
But keep your head up, people who can do the math are always good to have around, that’s a fact.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Jun 24, 2009 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Couple updates on Amick's twitter
Best guess right now: Evans will be the Kings’ pick if he’s there, and moving down remains much more of a possibility than moving up
Rubio not out of Kings’ conversation, though. Could still see it for a number of reasons
by eduardo_m7 on Jun 24, 2009 6:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Interesting
I’d have to say Evans based on the tea leaves as well.
But is that what Petrie WANTS me to think???
by nbrans on Jun 24, 2009 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Evans can be a star, he has the length and size...
Its really a matter if he’ll ever be able to truly handle the PG position. If we take him hopefully he can, otherwise we will have two amazing SG’s and Beno.
There now I've met the 75 word count. -pookeyguru
by moproblemz on Jun 24, 2009 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He could play as long as
Beno or Garcia is on the floor with him…I’m not sure you would spend a 4 on that.
by ElRonToro on Jun 24, 2009 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually don't really think he's a PG longterm
But if Petrie drafts him I don’t mind the idea of playing him at both PG and SG until we see what we have. If, as I suspect, SG is his natural position because he struggles to guard PGs and is more suited to a Brandon Roy-esque role as a ballhandling SG, down the line you can look at the possibility of trading either Evans or Martin.
by nbrans on Jun 24, 2009 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Inconcievable!
Dont get into this game with Geoff Petrie. He has spent the last few years developing an immunity to iocane powder.
by Cyg on Jun 24, 2009 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Also
Don’t get involved in a land war in Asia.
by misterbrister on Jun 24, 2009 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I've made a firm determination
to rec any and all Princess Bride references.
Have fun storming the castle!
by AnotherStupidSN on Jun 24, 2009 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it starts with what Petrie wants
and it ends with what Petrie wants. We will never know what he’s thinking until the pick is announced
by eduardo_m7 on Jun 24, 2009 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Evans is the guy I want least
We just traded John Salmons a few months ago. Why are we drafting his clone again?
At least Flynn and Rubio are actually point guards.
by Carl on Jun 24, 2009 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's my question too
Very clearly we have a huge hole at PG. This draft is deep in quality PGs. Our best player is a SG who can’t swing to another position and is a poor ballhandler. Why are we drafting the one top backcourt player who can’t play the point? If his comp is Larry Hughes, Larry Hughes was a disaster at the point for the Warriors.
by discocricket on Jun 24, 2009 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the hope
Would be that he’s more Brandon Roy than John Salmons. But I understand your concern.
by nbrans on Jun 24, 2009 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dont these ESPN guys have anything better to do?
They have a new rumor from a “source” every 5 minutes.
I got a crazy idea! This time in 24 hours we’ll know EXACTLY who got drafted! So shut up.
AB: Jeff Francoeur
Pitching: Any pitcher in MLB
Runners: Escobar at 3rd, Chipper at 2nd, McCann at 1st.
Pitch 1: In play, out(s)
by mvhsbball on Jun 24, 2009 6:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Minny's choice
Am I crazy to think that Minny would be nuts to package 5 & 6 for 2? A choice between Rubio or Evans AND Curry (or Flynn AND Evans, Harden AND Flynn, etc. etc.) should be a no-brainer for them. I’m not buying these reports. They must be trying to hold onto 6 and still get 2 somehow. (And I’m in the pro-Rubio camp)
by TheJust on Jun 24, 2009 7:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You are not crazy
They want to use 5 and 18 to get 2. Memphis wants Love and one of 5 and 6 or both 5 and 6. Minny won’t budge. They don’t need to. Those two picks are golden
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by vfettke on Jun 24, 2009 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They also offered 5 and 18 for 3,
it sounds like OKC isn’t budging though as they don’t want to risk losing Harden.
There now I've met the 75 word count. -pookeyguru
by moproblemz on Jun 24, 2009 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That makes FAR more sense
I must have been misreading the reports. Or accidentally reading Chad Ford. Those two picks ARE golden. I can’t believe I’m jealous of Timberwolves fans.
by TheJust on Jun 24, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are the Grizz the crazy ones?
They sure are asking a lot for a team to move up from 5 to 2, which is basically giving up Love for the ability to go from Curry/Evans/Jennings/Flynn to Rubio.
by misterbrister on Jun 25, 2009 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahhh . . . it is the T-Wolves
I wouldn’t be surprised if they traded #5, #6 and #18 for Memphis’s #2. Pick Rubio to watch him run back to Spain and the NBA found the T-Wolves committed some major infraction costing them next years pick.
by bignerd on Jun 24, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we just agree that nobody really knows what is going on?
And maybe wait until tomorrow? I love the interwebs but this is fucking ridiculous.
by towndunce on Jun 24, 2009 7:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I hear there’s rumors on the internets.
From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.
by My Losing Season on Jun 24, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Gallagher's Watermelons on Jun 25, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we move down presumably trading with the wolves,
what do we do with the 18 (which I presume is what they would offer) since reportedly OKC turned down the 5 and 18 for 3. Do we package it with the 23 to move to mid teens? It would allow us a lot more flexibility however whom would we target.
Unfortunately we didn’t work out Lawson otherwise I would suggest we go Evans and Lawson. Although we were high on Lawson last year and were presumably ready to take him at 12 before he went back to school.
If Earl Clark or Terrence Williams are there that would be another possibility to take alongside Flynn. My brain cannot handle all these options I think its time to shut it down until tomorrow afternoon.
There now I've met the 75 word count. -pookeyguru
by moproblemz on Jun 24, 2009 7:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
As we would only be moving down one slot
I would think that it would be 4 and 23 for 5 and 18.
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by section214 on Jun 24, 2009 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is true,
I guess it depends on how high the Twolves are on Rubio.
There now I've met the 75 word count. -pookeyguru
by moproblemz on Jun 24, 2009 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could live with that scenario.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Jun 24, 2009 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could too
if Rubio’s gone
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by vfettke on Jun 24, 2009 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
so minny gets Evans and we get flynn?
by KingsForLife on Jun 24, 2009 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Basically
We want Flynn anyway, this way we trade down and get him cheaper. Might as well even have them pick Flynn at 6 for us and swap picks that way.
www.mancancook.net
by vfettke on Jun 24, 2009 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And maybe
it puts you in Teague or Terrance Williams range at 18.
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by section214 on Jun 24, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that'd be nice, i think there my definitely be a different caliber player available at 18 compared to 23
by KingsForLife on Jun 24, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
could be interesting though. DX has Jennings dropping to 17 and Young up to 18 now. We could take Casspi as a big “fuck you” to Portland (assuming he’s the reason Portland got the 22 pick). How great would it be to leap frog Portland to get their guy? I can see Petrie walk out of the draft room, see Pritchard, and slyly flip him off
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by vfettke on Jun 24, 2009 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
why is Pritch messing with "Mr. Trailblazer" anyway?
what is up with that stuff?
by betweentheeyes on Jun 24, 2009 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As long as...
…Petrie drafts Rubio first, then trades him for the picks 5 minutes later, so we can all continue to have coronaries.
by TheJust on Jun 24, 2009 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Imagine the draft thread
Stern:“With the 4th pick in the NBA draft the Kings choose… Ricky Rubio from Spain”
Us:“Hell yeah!!!”
<5 minutes later>
Stern:“We have a trade to announce…”
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by vfettke on Jun 24, 2009 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
"Damn it!"
“I just finished sewing ‘Rubio’ over ‘Bibby’ on the back of my jersey!”
by TheJust on Jun 24, 2009 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been imagining this scenario for days
That would truly be the worst case scenario because of going from really happy to really pissed. At least not getting him would only take us from ok to pissed
by eduardo_m7 on Jun 24, 2009 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it were for the 5 and Kevin Love
I think I’d be ecstatic
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by vfettke on Jun 24, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes to that
But it’s not happening
by eduardo_m7 on Jun 24, 2009 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bucher!
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by section214 on Jun 24, 2009 7:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Just saw something that kings offered their late first round picks for detriot's #15 pick...
If that’s the case, we may have a great shot at Getting Evans and Holiday, which would be insane
by KingsForLife on Jun 24, 2009 8:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Here
http://www.draftexpress.com/blog/Jonathan-Givony/#Word-on-the-Street-June-24th-The-Latest-3283
If it’s true my guess is going for a PG if Evans is at #4 (i.e. Jennings/Lawson/Teague)
by nbrans on Jun 24, 2009 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That makes sense, it also looks like OKC will pick Rubio at 3
thus nullifying our decision altogether about Flynn versus Rubio. I wonder if the Kings would take Harden if they get Detroit’s pick at 15.
There now I've met the 75 word count. -pookeyguru
by moproblemz on Jun 24, 2009 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Harden or Evans
It’s a tough call
by KingsForLife on Jun 24, 2009 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Petrie will do whatever the Maloofs want
and the Maloofs want whatever will sell tickets and memorabilia in the short term, not what makes good basketball sense.
Whomever they get: Rubio, Flynn or Evans, I sure hope I don’t have to watch another year of soothing, Vagisil defense. Whether through the draft or by other means, we have got to get a reliable enforcer/lock down player.
As Barkley told me when I asked him in person about the Kings, “Better get your tissues ready.” (I protest). Again, he says: “Get your tissues ready.”
It’s going to be amazing though, a year from now to see just which PG slipped through the cracks and became a stud later in the draft. I think the people heralding Ty Lawson may have something.
by VirginiaBlue on Jun 24, 2009 8:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You must be a laugh riot in person
“soothing, Vagisil defense”? That seemed like a joke, only less funny.
With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Rickeke Flynenningday, point guard from Europe, Memphis, Syracuse, UCLA and Parts Unknown.
by otis29 on Jun 25, 2009 5:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Duh
What he wrote was something most Kings fans already knew. Bucher could have written that a month ago, as when was the last time there was a substantial leak out of the Kings. Most of the national stuff written about the Kings is just fiction.
Had the misfortune to listen to the afternoon show, Napaer is a tool, he never comes out and says if he had the pick he would pick Evans, which is fine, but then he doesn’t really back up what he is saying with any real concrete reason. He was disssing Rubio by saying he couldn’t start this year and he is a bad defensive player, No way, what stunning logic, way to inform your audience. If Rubio has the upside of being a elite NBA player (who knows if this is true), wouldn’t that be part of the equation, Evans maybe potentially a good NBA player. Thats the reason why I tend to listen to other shows as you get whats it called oh yeh insight.
Imagine this is really bad draft, look how screwed the T wolves will be then with two bad draft picks
by Murf on Jun 24, 2009 9:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I found that interesting as well
He and Lamb both seem to dislike Rubio. And that’s fine…but they allowed callers to say that Rubio is just another soft, Euro who won’t play defense without dropping some facts. Namely, that Rubio was the defensive player of the year in his league – and that he’s been playing successfully with grown men since he was 16 years old.
Now those things might not translate to the NBA, but there is as good of a chance of that happening as Flynn’s leadership skills and Evans’ ability to get to the basket.
Sheesh, at least know a little about Rubio if you’re going to do an afternoon sports show. It’s not like he’s been playing hoops on one of Jupiter’s moons.
With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Rickeke Flynenningday, point guard from Europe, Memphis, Syracuse, UCLA and Parts Unknown.
by otis29 on Jun 25, 2009 5:53 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
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