Draft Day A.M. Open Thread
by Tom Ziller on Jun 25, 2009 4:50 AM PDT
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Rubio will be available at 4.
Both Memphis and OKC will stand pat and take Thabeet/Harden off the board in some order, and Rubio will be available.
The Kings will have to make a decision between Flynn/Evans/Rubio.
Wow I summed up 6 weeks in 2 sentences.
chad ford
switched our pick to Steph Curry. I pray he is way off target again.
The NBA: "Where 27 free throws happens"
Gah, my worst case scenario
With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Rickeke Flynenningday, point guard from Europe, Memphis, Syracuse, UCLA and Parts Unknown.
What?
Steph Curry is legit i would be ecstatic if we took him
I'd be OK as long as we went for a defender with our next pick
that woud probably be a SF, which causes a real jam at the position, but we do have two 3s which think are very tradable.
Our offense would be exciting for next season anyway.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jun 25, 2009 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions
HOLY AVATAR CHANGE BATMAN
I think Ziller’s going bigtime on us.
Dude, at least put a wizard hat on that picture.
With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Rickeke Flynenningday, point guard from Europe, Memphis, Syracuse, UCLA and Parts Unknown.
Here we go
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
by Exhibit G on Jun 25, 2009 7:25 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Last I checked
Our team color is purple. And I believe that is a shiny silver, not gold.
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
Nice G
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
There are some who call me.....Tom??
With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Rickeke Flynenningday, point guard from Europe, Memphis, Syracuse, UCLA and Parts Unknown.
And the thing is
The wizard of Ziller was so much cooler. Argh.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
ZillerCatz
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
by Exhibit G on Jun 25, 2009 7:14 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Classic
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Ziller's red eye is badass--positively terminator-esque.
"El once, chico. Eleven."
by Juan Primo on Jun 25, 2009 6:17 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I didn't bother
Getting my big gulp was more important.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
And so it begins...
The day we have waited for has finally arrived!
And on this day, the Sacramento Kings become relevant once again.
So let it be written! So let it be done!
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by Noble_Bloodlines on Jun 25, 2009 6:56 AM PDT reply actions
Its official
Its draft day, and I don’t have the foggiest idea what we’re going to do.
I’m trusting/hopeful Petrie is going to get it right and very interested to see what our picks tonight tell us about the direction of the team.
Professional Hyperbole Slayer
Can you slay Hyperbole for me?
It would be swell. Thanks.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 25, 2009 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Its Draft Day
by law I have to take today off.
Its in the regulations and bylaws and everything! :-)
Professional Hyperbole Slayer
I doubt my company knows
How much salary they will be wasting on me today.
With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Rickeke Flynenningday, point guard from Europe, Memphis, Syracuse, UCLA and Parts Unknown.
by otis29 on Jun 25, 2009 7:16 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
I'm a State worker
I’m furloughing them of my services for the draft
by PissedOffGorilla on Jun 25, 2009 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I work for my father
He ought to know that there will be 500 draft rumor pages open on my machine today. Plus porn of course.
by nolookpass432 on Jun 25, 2009 7:27 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Rec'd for honesty, flagged by your father!
Perception is strong and sight weak. In strategy it is important to see distant things as if they were close and to take a distanced view of close things.
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by SactownheartOChouse on Jun 25, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Thank you
honest almost always (sometime, partially, kind of) works.
by nolookpass432 on Jun 25, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm getting very close to watching a movie and forgetting what the NBA draft is
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
You are a
lying liar who lies!
Teh Dego Dagger
by BPaoliano on Jun 25, 2009 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I want to do it
Read note below. LOL
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
And I mean going to the movies
But my fear is that I’m too obsessed to do even that. I’m so fucked.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Let the games begin.
It seems as if the pieces are falling into place for the Kings to have a legit shot at drafting Rubio. I think this is the best case scenario for the Maloofs. They get a teen-beat, uber-marketable player that immediately brings media attention to a franchise that has been searching for a face since Vlade and C-Webb left. Oh yeah, he may actually be a good basketball player.
I’m still not sure how I feel about this. My gut tells me to draft a player more ready to contribute to this team, Evans, Curry, Holiday or Flynn. I’m not convinced Rubio is as good as advertised. I’ll freely admit that I am not as learned on the draft this season as I usually am, and my opinion has been more influened by news reports, the paper, and you good people here.
I worry about Petrie and his lame-duck status. I worry about the Maloofs feeling the need to generate short-term (maybe long-term) excitement at the cost of improving the team.
I wonder…what will our offense look like? Is it a traditional offense that needs a pass first, bring the ball up the court PG? Can Garcia, martin and #4 pick share the load of getting the ball to the frontcourt? Is it a running offense, that relies on rebounding and quick passes upcourt to get fast break numbers? So many questions and no answers until at least this afternoon.
If I were forced to choose a PG..I still saw Lawson. I think he’s the best PG in the draft. Then Flynn/Holiday/Rubio in some order. If the Kings can swap the #23 and #31 for the 15, as has been rumored, can you get Lawson at 15? Do you take one of the PG’s at #4 and DeJuan Blair later? Do you go for a big man and hope for Lawson later? Could you turn Rubio’s draft rights into something better than you have now? Get a player or 2 and a pick next year maybe?
I don’t have any answers. Every question leads to more questions. So ultimately, I sweat out the rest of the day and hope for the best.
Rubio Rubio Rubio Rubio Rubio Rubio
[deep breath] Rubio Rubio Rubio Rubio Rubio Rubio Rubio
you get the idea….
Teh Dego Dagger
I get worked up
And then remember:
Stockton at 16
Malone at 13
Kobe at 13
Nash at 15
Deep breath…it’s all good
Interesting idea
Presented by Shoals on The Baseline:
Tyreke Evans to the Thunder: On a team that seems to have out-and-out rejected positional roles, albeit without the anarchic bent that characterizes the Warriors, why not pair up Evans and Westbrook? Westbrook doesn’t want to nominally give up his starting PG slot. That won’t work if the Thunder somehow land Rubio, either in principle or practice, since Westbrook can’t play off the ball to save his life. However, put him with Evans, who had to prove his PG credentials for this draft but really could be fine as a hybrid (NOT COMBO) guard like Delonte West. Westbrook/Evans makes no one angry, spreads around plenty of skill, and continues the Thunder’s practice of trying to confuse the hell out of opponents and themselves alike. Maybe not quite Williams/West, but when you factor in the guard-like skills of Durant . . . well, let’s not fall down that black hole of theorizing.
There’s been a lot of talk that at least some people within the organization might prefer Evans over Rubio, but what if Evans is gone?
Bonus kudos to Shoals for an idea I haven’t read anywhere else and hadn’t even considered. Doubt it happens, but sometimes it’s fun to imagine.
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
Agreed
I’m more worried about Memphis right now. It sounds like they are going to trade the #2 to Minnesota for the 5&6.
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by Noble_Bloodlines on Jun 25, 2009 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions
That would be stupid of Minnesota to do
Keep the 5 & 6. Take Evans and Curry. With Evans, there is just as much of a chance that he’ll be as good a player as Rubio. At the very least.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Right
Hype isn’t everything.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
regardless of what you say is stupid...
I keep seeing it on ESPN and NBA TV. They said Memphis is just waiting to see if anyone beats the offer.
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by Noble_Bloodlines on Jun 25, 2009 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Well you'll be able to tell really quick if the trade occurs as the Grizz
will select Rubio; personally I don’t see the Twolves giving up 5 and 6 for the 2 that’s ludicrous when they have no backcourt at this point in time.
There now I've met the 75 word count. -pookeyguru
Kahn budged pretty quickly then if he's offering 5 and 6
yesterday it was 5 and 18
www.mancancook.net
Yeah
I’m just praying it doesn’t happen.
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by Noble_Bloodlines on Jun 25, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Not to mention
it’s not set in stone that we take Rubio. He might be available for them at 5.
Teh Dego Dagger
That too
I think having the 5 & 6 is the most valuable asset in this draft by far. What a coup Kahn pulled off. And, there’s a chance it doesn’t completely work for Minnesota. (Or the Kings.)
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
That makes a lot of sense
I know you pick the BPA, but why would you pick a guy whose development doesn’t totally coincide with your team’s rise to contention? Taking Rubio means you probably have to trade Westbrook. Why dump a PG who already works for you and risk your teams already great chemistry?
www.mancancook.net
I don't buy it
Evans duplicates Westbrook to a large extent and isn’t an outside shooter. Unless they are just going BPA and think Evans is the best player I don’t see how that makes sense. Harden is a much better fit.
The article
Is things that Shoals wishes would happen, not that are rumored or expected to happen.
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
And I don't buy it
because that makes three guys who really need the ball in thier hands
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jun 25, 2009 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions
A ray of sunshine on an otherwise cloudy day
Behold, the words of Kayte, via her Twitter:
About to take a double decker bus tour! I have to be on the top :) hahaha
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
by Exhibit G on Jun 25, 2009 8:27 AM PDT reply actions 5 recs
Dear Baby Jesus,
Forget Rubio! Can you please turn me into double decker bus?
www.mancancook.net
by vfettke on Jun 25, 2009 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions 10 recs
Woah...Kayte's twitter can talk?
"It would be my honor to be your new stepfather."
by PhutureKings on Jun 25, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Big fan of Kayte's twitter
It is now talking of romantic carriage rides in the park. Nothin like a draft day assignment to bring out the best in @kayte_c
harden
This is something I haven’t heard anything about, but if Harden slips is he a good fit? Obviously Griffin goes 1, then probably Thabeet, but maybe Rubio or Evans, then Maybe Thabeet or Evans. Point is- what if Harden is there. Good shooter. Not a point, is he not even an option?
He came for a workout
But there hasn’t been much other talk of him.
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
Kayte Kayte Kayte
Gives me a Fat Lever
by PurplePurple on Jun 25, 2009 8:43 AM PDT reply actions 6 recs
I needed a good laugh this morning.
"Or, as Randy Jackson would say: Not feelin’ it, dawg."
-bench-blob- posting virgin.
Thabeet was made to play beside big AL
I don’t buy it
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jun 25, 2009 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Except
They have so many holes now they could really be targeting anyone. Their entire roster is basically a hole. Except for PF, where they have two players who duplicate each other.
They have so many holes now they could really be targeting anyone. Their entire roster is basically a hole.
Who are we talking about again? ;)
right!
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jun 25, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Huh?
You can trade picks during the draft or even after the draft if you draft the other persons players for them.
There now I've met the 75 word count. -pookeyguru
Both are correct
Minny traded for the #5 pick itself. But now you can only trade for the rights. Any picks traded now will still belong to their original owners, they’ll just pick for the other team
www.mancancook.net
Ziller...
I just saw this on Twitter. Not sure if someone already posted it…
http://vyous.com/sports/nba/sackings/2009/06/25/kings-have-chance-to-change-face-of-team—-kcracom
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by Noble_Bloodlines on Jun 25, 2009 9:06 AM PDT reply actions
Rocket's trying to get at #4?
They have some nice pieces. I know GP has always like Aaron Brooks. Plus it looks like Battier might be available too. But what else would we need to package? They probably want JT.
by Devastation Co. MMA on Jun 25, 2009 9:15 AM PDT reply actions
They have also been throwing around Landry's name,
there could be a deal to land Aaron Brooks and Carl Landry for the #4 and some other asset of ours.
There now I've met the 75 word count. -pookeyguru
Just watched ESPN
They still have no clue and got Rubio going to OKC, knowing what Westbrook said. They do have Jennings dropping to #23. I know his stock fell, but he’s not really going to fall that far.
Yeah, I agree on Jennings
The kid has talent, and in a weak draft someone should take a flyer on him earlier. I’d still be surprised if he falls too far out of the lottery.
With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Rickeke Flynenningday, point guard from Europe, Memphis, Syracuse, UCLA and Parts Unknown.
That what everyo ne said about Gerald Green, remember?
He was a top-five “lock” a few years back and just tumbled all the way to the 20s. So it is possible that Jennings drops.
by LASportsCentral.com on Jun 25, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Westbrook
Is not the GM. I don’t think Sam Presti’s decision is driven by Westbrook’s feelings, but by what is best for the team. Now if he thinks he has a better shot to win with a happy Westbrook than with Rubio, that could be a reason. But do not think that Westbrook’s “You trippin’” is going to prevent a team from drafting Rubio.
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
I agree
I believe Harden or Evans is the player they need. Evans and Westbrook could both handle the ball in the backcourt
Too many guys who need the ball in thier hands IMO
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jun 25, 2009 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions
ooops
said that twice in one thread
apologies
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jun 25, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
No work today,
that seven hours is going to feel like seven days at this rate.
There now I've met the 75 word count. -pookeyguru
by moproblemz on Jun 25, 2009 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
No work
Don’t get me wrong, I’m at work. But there will be no work today.
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
Agreed.
This is like the last day before going on vacation. Interminable
by nolookpass432 on Jun 25, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Andy Katz Mock Draft
Has us getting Evans and Jennings.
If we ended up with both players I would be extremely happy.
That would be a Christmas miracle...
… but I don’t see it happening even if Jennings has contracted the ebola virus. If the Kings trade the 4th pick after all the speculation and suspense I think I would be crushed. Productivity also taking an extreme hit here at work also.
Damn you Robert Horry!!!
Here's the link
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=4285975&name=katz_andy
I can’t imagine Lawson and Teague going before Jennings, but I guess stranger things have happened.
That would be awesome
if we got Evans and Jennings
"I'm too weird ta live but much too rare ta die"
by aKingisBored on Jun 25, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Update at ESPN
POSTED: June 25 — 12:31 p.m. ET
Marc Stein: The message coming in from rival executives — while acknowledging that everything is fluid with so much chatter in the air — is that Memphis is looking increasingly likely to keep the No. 2 overall pick unless Minnesota sends No. 5 and No. 6 to the Grizzlies.
The Wolves, by all accounts, still aren’t ready to give up that much.
The latest scenario floated to us is that the Wolves, with those back-to-back picks, are leaning toward taking Stephen Curry and Tyreke Evans. Conventional wisdom, by contrast, suggests that the Wolves would take one guard and one big man if they keep Nos. 5 and 6, especially given their need for someone who can guard the rim.
Yet it also must be acknowledged that the Wolves are at the heart of numerous trade scenarios with the four first-round picks they possess.
In other words? Watch this space.
With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Rickeke Flynenningday, point guard from Europe, Memphis, Syracuse, UCLA and Parts Unknown.
Yeah
That’s a great duo to put next to each other.
by misterbrister on Jun 25, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd believe this
Chad Ford said something interesting on the Simmons podcast earlier this week. He was saying that he hears a lot of GMs saying that Chris Wallace is really worried about looking bad in another trade after the Gasol debacle. So they’ll think they’ve got a deal, and suddenly he wants more. Yesterday it might have been ok to take 5 and a later pick, today he wants 5 and 6. They described it as “If you’re willing to agree to the trade, I must not be getting enough” syndrome.
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
Don't believe Chad Ford and Simmons
I heard that podcast and it was bunch of stupid. They also really thought the Spurs would trade Tony Parker for Rondo just to keep from paying 4 players 10 plus million dollars. Really? Have the Spurs ever come out and said that their organizational philosophy. That’s more important than winning while Duncan still has it? And doesn’t Rondo hit restricted free agency after next season.
I don’t buy the Wallace supposition because he was ridiculed for the Gasol trade last year too and he still made big draft day deals last year. Two actually, getting Mayo and Darrell Arthur. He was the most active GM in the draft last year.
Is it really unbelievable?
I don’t find it hard to believe that the guy now second-guesses every move based on how it will affect his public perception.
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
Not based on evidence
Yet he pulled off two gargantuan draft trades last year. He should have just as gun shy as he supposedly is now. His whole career has been about bad trades. He traded Joe Johnson for Tony Delk and Rodney Rogers. He traded to reacquire Mark Blount. Through it all, he keeps firing away.
Agree on Simmons.
He’s funny, but his trade scenarios are absurd. He’s more like a mad scientist than a legitimate basketball commentator.
I like Jennings a lot too. I think he’s the most talented player in the draft and the best athlete. He’ll be one of the five most athletic point guards in the nba but he’s not only raw athleticism, he’s also a great passer. He was the no.1 guy in his high school class and had he played college ball, he might be the no.2 consensus pick right now. He, not Rubio I think, has the highest ceiling.
Sure his numbers in Europe weren’t impressive but there were a lot of valid mitigating factors like adjusting to a new culture and style of play, not being allowed to play point and instead playing off-guard. Plus European coaches are notoriously hard on young players and yank them around.
Nobody knows what to make of his numbers because he’s a test case. Maybe people will look back on this draft and say they missed out on the most electrifyingly fast point guard in the nba because they misjudged the context of his statistics.
Ian Thomsen's Mock
This is basically exactly how I think the 1st Round will go down.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/ian_thomsen/06/24/mock.draft4/index.html
His top 5 is:
1. Griffin
2. Thabeet
3. Rubio
4. Evans
5. Harden
He has us taking Teague with #23.
I'm an idiot
His top 5 is:
1. Griffin
2. Thabeet
3. Curry
4. Rubio
5. Evans
Whoopsies!
That’s not how I think it will go down, but it’s still a good mock.
He was on the 1140 today
and said his updated one had us taking Evans with Rubio going at 3. The one you linked to is yesterday’s. So you were right without actually being right
www.mancancook.net
Twitter laughs
Sorry,
but the side that has Paulina Rubio automatically wins.
"It would be my honor to be your new stepfather."
by PhutureKings on Jun 25, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Wow
She can be my sister any day. :)
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Ha!
Chad Ford has confidence levels for his picks, w/ the Kings at 30% taking Stephen Curry. Wonder what his confidence level was for Darko Milicic?
That was a funny addition
His ego still got in the way. 30% confident in the Kings pick Chad? Try 5%, you historical accuracy with the Kings suggests so.
I got a message from Kings headquarters, they are 99.9% confident Chad Ford is a buffoon.
by bignerd on Jun 25, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Latest from DraftExpress
What is Sacramento Thinking?
The situation in the Kings war room appears to be extremely fluid at the moment, with plenty of trade offers on their table for the #4 pick, and four point guards in the lead to be selected should they hold onto it. Ricky Rubio, Jonny Flynn, Tyreke Evans and Stephen Curry are the players they are looking at, even if they continue to say that James Harden is in the picture as well, likely in order to prevent Oklahoma City from feeling comfortable about moving down to #5 in a swap with Minnesota.
All teams we’ve spoken with have either Evans or Flynn at this spot, assuming that Rubio is selected by Oklahoma City at 3.
Sacramento’s pick will have huge ramifications on how the entire draft shakes out, and the situation here is being monitored by every other team in the lottery.
http://www.draftexpress.com/blog/Jonathan-Givony/#Live-Blogging-the-2009-NBA-Draft-3287
i was pro flynn until his espn interview last night...
dude, was referring to himself in the 3rd person. i’m sorry but anyone who refers to himself in the third person is going to be handful down the road. think t.o., rickey henderson, etc.
by kingsbruins02 on Jun 25, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
And
you have an issue with drafting a TO or Ricky Henderson??? Even with the attitude, the talent is worth it because if you decide you don’t like him half the league will want him… The Kings could do worse.
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by Noble_Bloodlines on Jun 25, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
the difference between confidence and cockiness
i think the kings need a leader, someone who will get into his teammates’ faces, and move the team forward in a positive manner. i thought flynn could be that person. after referring to himself in the third person, i’m not sure if he can fill that role anytime SOON. the issue is maturity and timing. the reason why the team was high on flynn was because it was believed that he could come in and lead the team right away. i’m sure flynn believes he can do it right away. someday he may, but not anytime soon.
here’s an analogy: if you were the ceo of a company and you were interviewing a person for a position that requires leadership, would you hire that person if he/she refers to themselves in the third person? It’s a maturity issue.
The reason why it’s relevant to Flynn is simple: if you removed his “leadership” intangibles, would you still pick him 4th?
by kingsbruins02 on Jun 25, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I may...
It depends on what GP saw in the workouts…
Also, was he asked a question worded like: How do you handle……? OR was it worded like: How does Jonny Flynn handle….? Because I would understand him staying with whatever wording the interviewer was using.
I do see you’re point though.
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by Noble_Bloodlines on Jun 25, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
regarding the questions that were thrown at flynn...
he was not set up. they were general questions—something to the effect: what do you bring to the table? flynn then proceeded to ramble things off in the third person. it shocked the hell out of me. most reports pegged him as a rather mature leader.
don’t get me wrong. i still like what he brings to the table. i just wouldn’t draft him at 4 now. i’ve played with plenty of teammates who referred to themselves in the third person (some still do). they were good guys, but their leadership abilities were blinded by their own greatness.
by kingsbruins02 on Jun 25, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
that makes it different for sure. But again, whoever you draft at 4 doesn’t HAVE to be a leader… People act as if we’re one piece away from the finals. I want a good PG… After that, we can worry about who the leader is or go sign/trade for one.
I'm a limousine-riding, jet-flying, kiss-stealing, wheeling-dealing son of a gun!!! Wooooo!!!
by Noble_Bloodlines on Jun 25, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
agree...
we’re definitely not one player away. like you, i’m all for the best player available. time will tell.
by kingsbruins02 on Jun 25, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I know another person who refers to themselves in the 3rd person...
Perception is strong and sight weak. In strategy it is important to see distant things as if they were close and to take a distanced view of close things.
Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt — When catapults are outlawed, only outlaws will have catapults"
by SactownheartOChouse on Jun 25, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
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Perception is strong and sight weak. In strategy it is important to see distant things as if they were close and to take a distanced view of close things.
Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt — When catapults are outlawed, only outlaws will have catapults"
by SactownheartOChouse on Jun 25, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Perception is strong and sight weak. In strategy it is important to see distant things as if they were close and to take a distanced view of close things.
Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt — When catapults are outlawed, only outlaws will have catapults"
by SactownheartOChouse on Jun 25, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
What? No Shaq jokes yet?
How long until Shaq calls LaBron Queen James?
The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.
by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 25, 2009 10:12 AM PDT reply actions
I'm wondering what he's gonna call himself
The Big Rock? I mean what distinguishes Cleveland aside from LeBron James.
How about the Big Smelly River
or am I thinking of Cincinnati?
"It would be my honor to be your new stepfather."
by PhutureKings on Jun 25, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
(e)Erie
that you said that.
It is Cleveland where once, famously, the Lake was on fire.
by betweentheeyes on Jun 25, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
The Big Eriestotle?
SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!
by section214 on Jun 25, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
The Big Cuyahoga
From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.
by My Losing Season on Jun 25, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Shaq needs to one up Kobe
Gotta give it to Shaq, he’s been the center of controversy his entire career. Just when you think he’s done, he’s now in advantages position to swipe another championship from Kobe. Not to mention he now stands in the way of his other best friend, Dwight Howard.
Since the Kings wont be in the finals next year...
I would love to see that series!
"It would be my honor to be your new stepfather."
by PhutureKings on Jun 25, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
I think it's Curry
He would be the semi-surprise pick that has everyone saying that you just can’t know what Petrie will do. Plus he’s the best shooter in the draft and not a bad passer to boot. Petrie loves shooting and passing.
I hope
someone’s keeping an eye on Amick’s twitter. I’m assuming there will be a lot of updates today
I've been watching the feeds
Lots of people talking, lots of chatter, very little new information.
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
Which is why I'm not doing anything but sort of floating past
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I'm on Amick's twitter
Even though he’s normally not my type.
The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.
by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 25, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, he doesn't seem like much of a "Savage Beast".
"Or, as Randy Jackson would say: Not feelin’ it, dawg."
-bench-blob- posting virgin.
Another Rumor
Columnist Peter Vescey’s NBA sources indicate the Rockets are “leaning toward” trading Tracy McGrady, Carl Landry and Aaron Brooks to the Suns for Leandro Barbosa and Amare Stoudemire.
If you're not first ... you're last.
Yeah..
.. obviously Vescey doesn’t know what he is talking about. Just more proof. Why are the Suns going to trade for a broken down McGrady, a role player, and this years recipent of the Jerome James trophy for the player with the most surprising playoff performance. That have to be able to do better than that for Amare I don’t care how much they want to shed payroll.
Damn you Robert Horry!!!
by chupacabara on Jun 25, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
They should do something
They either need to build up for one last run or just blow the whole thing up and rebuild.
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
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by misterbrister on Jun 25, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I get that..
.. but for an all star you need to get back more than just an expiring contract, a role player, and a young point guard. They would be entering Griz-Gasol-Wallace land with this one and ginving away an asset.
Damn you Robert Horry!!!
by chupacabara on Jun 25, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn't underestimate the value of the expiring contract
Combined with the Shaq trade they could go into the ’10 free agency with a ton of cap room. No one else has an expiring contract that big, and they clear two of their bigger deals in one season.
For instance, the Kings could give them JT, but KT is only a tiny expiring compared to McGrady. Any other realistic scenario involves them taking on Beno, which I doubt they’d want to do.
They're not trading for Tracy McGrady, Expiring Contract
they’re trading for Tracy McGrady in a contract year
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by vfettke on Jun 25, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Huh?
By contract year, are you saying that they’d be betting on McGrady playing great because it’ll be a contract year? Really? They would be confident that McGrady will come back from microfracture surgery and a bad shoulder, not mention the bad back he’s had like forever, to be a stud player and make them competitive? No way.
Coming off microfracture surgery at age 30?
Methinks Tracy McGrady in a contract year would be a bonus, but I doubt they have any illusions about what they’d be getting.
Phoenix had a old Shaq
and now is left with broken floorboards: injured Steve Nash, injured Amar’e Stoudamire, oh, and Grant Hill (do I need to point out his injuries?)
They are blowing it UP! Getting some young studs like Ben Wallace and Sasha…
This is not a rebuild – it is a financial shut down. Follow the money and you will have your answers.
by betweentheeyes on Jun 25, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
It's possible
Look at the Shaq trade, they traded for a over the hill Wallace and Pavlovic, both of whom they may buy out. They can save 10 million in luxury tax payments. Stoudemire is in another category than Shaq but at the same time he’s going to be a free agent next season and they have given no indication they want to resign him or that he wants to resign there.
McGrady saves them a lot of money next year because apparently insurance will pay while he rehabs from his injury. That will be a significant cash savings.
I don't disagree that Amare is probably going to be moved...
I’m just saying you don’t give away an allstar talent without getting back a very good young player with allstar upside.
Damn you Robert Horry!!!
by chupacabara on Jun 25, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
I've decided
I want Evans or Curry. I’m just not sold on anyone else. Even though earlier, I proclaimed my very hetero basketball love for Ty Lawson.
DraftExpress Update
“Picks that are potentially available include Oklahoma City (#25), Chicago (#26), Memphis (#27), Minnesota (#28) and the Los Angeles Lakers (#29). The going price will likely be cash. "
No #23 on that list…
Apparently #29's not Lakers' pick anymore
via InsideHoops on Twitter
Adrian Wojnarowski (Yahoo) reports that the Knicks are telling peers they have purchased the Lakers’ No. 29 pick.
Now, see, that right there tells you it's not true.
The Knicks FO has no peers.
The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.
by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 25, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Same source on DE:
A source with the New York Knicks tells us that they’ve acquired the #29 pick from the LA Lakers in exchange for 3 million dollars in cash.
More on that as it becomes available.
Jerry Buss
If he’s going to be giving away draft picks for cash, he should just sell the team.
With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Rickeke Flynenningday, point guard from Europe, Memphis, Syracuse, UCLA and Parts Unknown.
I get the reference
Maybe I am touchy today, but I don’t find it funny. Buss has zero possible uses for the pick. He’s got a star, championship team, lucrative arena, happy fan base and good cash flow. He can afford to sell the pick and use the money for mega Las Vegas poker game bender.
The Maloofs have none of Buss’s NBA comforts. There only shot is to pick a good player to turn things around since they cannot afford to buy one. If they sell the pick, it’s looks like they are giving up.
If the Kings start selling picks for cash it’s going to be an awful, angry day. As a result the Maloofs might want to sell the team.
by bignerd on Jun 25, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Evidently
There are a more than a few teams looking to sell their picks currently. Could they all have bad ownership, or are they trying to save a few dollars on an allegedly bad draft in a bad economy? That’s smart business, IMO.
With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Rickeke Flynenningday, point guard from Europe, Memphis, Syracuse, UCLA and Parts Unknown.
Sorry
I thought you were alluding to a week old thread were it was suggested the Kings would sell off their picks for cash. The board was flooded with the “Maloofs should sell the team” as a response to the report. I thought you were taking a dig at that.
It’s now common on draft day for the last half dozen 1st round picks to be sold for cash. Portland is going to have 8 picks this year.
No, I was alluding to that
With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Rickeke Flynenningday, point guard from Europe, Memphis, Syracuse, UCLA and Parts Unknown.
Like I said I am touchy today
If the Kings #$!% up this draft the Maloofs might be paying Buss $60-$80 million in territory rights to move the team to Anaheim.
Hang in there
I’m pretty nervous myself, but only if Petrie ends up dealing the pick. The man’s strong suit is drafting talent, I’d like to see him stick to that (especially with the #4) rather than move the pick.
With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Rickeke Flynenningday, point guard from Europe, Memphis, Syracuse, UCLA and Parts Unknown.
Funny you should mention that...
The ESPN Radion network interviewed the Maloofs a few months ago and kept bringing that possibility up.
The Brothers Maloofs didn’t bite saying they love Sacramento, that the community is very integral to the success of the franchise and they are not looking to move. They further stated if Ahaheim gets a team it won’t be the Kings.
Too many L&*ers down here for a 3rd team. With that said, I would love having my chargers, angels and Kings all to myself. But, that’s not going to happen!
Perception is strong and sight weak. In strategy it is important to see distant things as if they were close and to take a distanced view of close things.
Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt — When catapults are outlawed, only outlaws will have catapults"
by SactownheartOChouse on Jun 25, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
You'll see more teams sell picks
Especially late in the first round. If rosters are basically set, why bring in a rookie with a guaranteed contract?
Helps them resign players
The 3 mil actually allows them to go and extra 1.5 million dollars over the luxury tax to resign some combination of Ariza, Odom and Brown without Buss losing more money. So this could work out very well for them if they at least are able to bring Ariza and Odom back.
Who does everybody think
Will be the guy that is projected to go top 10, slips, and is sitting in the green room trying to hold back tears until KP breaks our hearts and picks him at #22?
agreed
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jun 25, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
How so?
Other than both being point guards, Evans is a great penetrator and finisher who may not be a true PG and who has faulty mechanics on his outside shot. Holiday has good shooting form and should be a good shooter, is a great passer and true PG, but struggles beating his man off the dribble and creating his own shot. They are both good defenders. I actually think they would complement each other well.
Athletically and size-wise, they're very similar
I actually think Holiday projects more as a PG and Evans more as a SG, and yeah, Holiday is better from outside whereas Evans is better taking it inside.
But defensively I think they’re both going to have trouble guarding the PG spot and I don’t see either as a true PG. Holiday showed good defensive intensity, but he’s not that quick, particularly considering he was mostly guarding SGs at UCLA.
I guess if Evans is the pick at #4 I’d hope for a more traditional PG just to have someone in that spot who can be a backup PG in the event Evans ends up being more of a pure SG. But that’s just me.
Remember that we're talking about the 23rd pick here
(though, admittedly, it’s unlikely that Holiday will be there)
What pure PGs would you prefer to Holiday that might be available?
Teague, Lawson, Collison, a stiff drink
I know there are questions about whether Teague is a true PG, but he’s still a PG.
Basically what you’re seeing is that I probably wouldn’t take Holiday in the first round. I just don’t get the Holiday love.
I love Lawson
but Collison’s assist to turnover ratio scares me. I think he might be a “game manager” who had an excellent college coach. I don’t think he’s there physically.
I guess I am attracted to Holiday’s upside because he’s so young, which is dangerous.
I don't think Collison would be playing the same style in the NBA
At UCLA he was expected to pound the ball and create opportunities, but in the NBA he would probably be more of a traditional bring the ball up/dump the ball off/wait to shoot an open jumper type of role, which I think he’d be well-suited for. I think he also has the potential to be a good defender because of his quickness, even if he’s slight.
He’s more roleplayer than star though, and I can tell that you’re more inclined to swing for the fences (which isn’t a bad thing).
Yeah that's probably true
I think he’d be good as a backup too. But what’s really motivating my opinion here is the fact that I don’t think I can handle another year without a creater on the team. Though I think he’s talented, I don’t see Evans filling that role well. I just want to get anyone who’s going to make the game easier for JT and Shawes.
I'm not sure they need a creator...
as much as they just need some offensive structure. It’s not as if either JT or Hawes are high fliers or particularly adept at cutting to the hoop. They’re both more effective with the ball in their hands facing the hoop.
What I would prefer is if Hawes were groomed for the Divac/Miller role because he has that capability, if not the maturity. That would require a scoring point guard more than a distributor because it would be more important for them to hit shots when the ball comes back.
I guess I just don’t really see how a distributor is going to make Hawes in particular that much better.
The one person who probably would benefit from a distributor is Martin because he’s so good cutting to the basket. But I’d rather the bigs find him when he does that (as Miller used to) rather than bringing someone in just to suit Martin’s game.
I agree
That Martin would benifit greatly from a distributor. And I think that JT is well suited to run the floor and finish at the rim. I think that his being forced to face up and create his own shot was the reason that he struggled with offensive fouls and turnovers (though a certain amount of rookie mistakes is inevitable).
I’d like to see more pick and roll and more drive and dish, with the PG facilitating and the bigs only being asked to pass out of doubles to open shooters. I guess it’s just a philosophy difference.
Agree
Collison had to create EVERYTHING for UCLA this season. Since Holiday could not create a shot, we had very limited offensive weapons. Aboya was strictly a defend and rebound type big. Drago was just a good shooter. Shipp could create some opportunities, but even he could be stopped by a good defender. This often led to UCLA winding down the clock and the Collison driving and have to force the action. Collison should have a nice roll in the NBA, I would say like a better shooting Earl Watson.
I think Evans is a smaller John Salmons
and that didn’t work
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jun 25, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Daye
Will be there longer than expected. But I doubt they break our heart with that.
Bé foréwarnéd: I am a mémbér of StR Groupthink méntality.
Slipping
I see Thabeet slipping out of the top 6-7 picks, and it appears Jennings will be the Green Room guy who fumes as he plummets and threatens to make all teams that passed on him pay for their disrespect!
Last in the green
Apparently Jennings is aware of that possibility and might decline the invitation. My bet is on Holiday or Daye. Holiday because of the combination of not great athleticism and so-so freshman stats and Daye because he’s about 2 years from playing with how skinny he is.
Stay away Daye
I reffed games with him running the show at Woodbridge High in Irvine, and the kid is a spoiled brat, had a sense of entitlement even at age 14 and despite his streaky range like Jason Williams where he will let if fly from 25 feet away, he is not diciplined, lazy and soft.
Perception is strong and sight weak. In strategy it is important to see distant things as if they were close and to take a distanced view of close things.
Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt — When catapults are outlawed, only outlaws will have catapults"
by SactownheartOChouse on Jun 25, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Internet TV or radio for the draft
I’ll be at work during the draft so I’m hoping to be able to watch it or listen to it online. Does anyone know any TV or radio online broadcasts that might work? I know ESPN 360 will have it, but I can’t access that from my work. I can listen to KHTK but I don’t know if they’ll broadcast the draft live or just comment on it as it happens. Justin.tv also doesn’t work at my office. Any suggestions?
by thekangarooster on Jun 25, 2009 11:11 AM PDT reply actions
That is also blocked at my work.
Damn proxy servers!
by thekangarooster on Jun 25, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
www.justin.tv
Is what I usually use.
There now I've met the 75 word count. -pookeyguru
I'm waiting until the very last moment to even get on with that stuff
I’m going to be listening to muzak chillaxing homey.
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Online feed
atdhe.net is a great portal for pirated streams.
Thanks
I can get to roja and atdhe, so hopefully between those two I will find a good feed.
by thekangarooster on Jun 25, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
You'll find plenty
Don’t even worry about it.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
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Is it free?
Or do you need insider?
I'm a limousine-riding, jet-flying, kiss-stealing, wheeling-dealing son of a gun!!! Wooooo!!!
by Noble_Bloodlines on Jun 25, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
It's more like a cable channel
Your internet provider needs to “offer” ESPN360 for you to access. The easiest way is to go to the site and see if yours does. I don’t believe Insider is necessary.
With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Rickeke Flynenningday, point guard from Europe, Memphis, Syracuse, UCLA and Parts Unknown.
Per Andy Katz at ESPN
Minnesota is not giving in to Memphis’ demands for the #2 at this point. Memphis looks to be keeping the pick and taking Thabeet.
He added this:
• Oklahoma City, Detroit and Chicago made assurances early on Thursday that they weren’t dealing their top 16 picks.
With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Rickeke Flynenningday, point guard from Europe, Memphis, Syracuse, UCLA and Parts Unknown.
A big blinking contest of bullshit
Gotta love it if you love contrivance.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Chad Ford now has us taking Curry
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
DX has reported..
A rumor in which Houston sends Shane Battier and Aaron Brooks to Sacramento for Beno Udrih at the #4 pick. A third team might have to get involved to make the salaries work.
I don't get that
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jun 25, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
First instinct
Me no likey.
With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Rickeke Flynenningday, point guard from Europe, Memphis, Syracuse, UCLA and Parts Unknown.
Its not no likey
its ‘huh?!’
sounds like crap to me
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jun 25, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
No way
I read that too and that would seem to be a rumor emanating from Houston. Besides, they need Aaron Brooks to get Amare [rolls eyes].
I'd do it
If we could package 31 and 23 for a higher pick and get Lawson. But that seems highly unlikely.
I'll take that..
A chance to get rid of the boat anchor that is Beno and get a proven starting point guard. Battier would be a huge help defensively and a great guy for leadership. He could be a very valuable trading chip for a contender also.
Damn you Robert Horry!!!
by chupacabara on Jun 25, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
I’d take it too. Getting rid of The Albatross, nabbing an excellent defender in Battier and a decent point guard would be a good deal as far as I’m concerned. The Kings aren’t interested in Rubio, and I don’t know that any of the other guys are going to be anything more than decent starters anyway. I will say that the only reason something like this could happen is to cover up for Petrie’s 800th bad MLE signing.
But both Brooks and Battier are role players with a significant limitation. This draft is about getting 1st banana, when you have the #4 you need to walk away with a guy you can build the team around. Even Greg Lukenbill figured that part out when he traded #3 for an All Star in Mitch Richmond. Cleveland has 9 Beno’s on the roster, you don’t notice or care because they have one Lebron.
Sorry to break it to you
But we are probably not getting the 1st banana with this pick. I still don’t agree with that Houston trade but you seem to have very high expectations
I also think people's expectation of this pick is outta whack
Even taking Brooks’ playoff performance out of the conversation, there is a pretty good chance that he might be better than any point guard you could choose today. The Rockets thought highly enough to give up their starting point Rafer Alston to get the guy into the starting lineup and he played pretty well after being inserted into the starting 5. I think it is a moot point because I don’t see why the Rockets would blowup their starting 5 to land an unknown quantity and Beno.
Damn you Robert Horry!!!
by chupacabara on Jun 25, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
The Rockets dubbed Brooks good enough to be their forth option in the offense behind Yao, T-Mac and Artest. That’s not exactly an ringing endorsement. Fisher is the 4th option on the Lakers squad. Not to mention Brooks made his name against Fisher (don’t they all), except the rest of the leagues PG don’t have cement blocks for feet.
Never underestimate the stupidity of the other GM’s in the NBA. Every team is already standing pat believing that we won’t take Rubio, that’s already a freaking miracle.
Add in that perennial loser teams are puffing there chest about making a big move and the rest of the league is in panic to dump salary I think the potential is there for the Kings to not only make one huge splash but take advantage of someone else to make two.
I think your estimation of the amount of stupid GM's out there is off base.
Perenial screwups like Wes Unseld and Elgin Baylor no longer have jobs. I would say with the exception of maybe one or two teams most front offices do a very good job of making the right calls. I think that is why you see very few trades nowadays compared to 10-20 years ago..
Damn you Robert Horry!!!
by chupacabara on Jun 25, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
The last three drafts have seen more trades than any other drafts in NBA history, last year set the record again.
Perennial screwups list
Clippers – exempt this year
Memphis
Minnesota
Toronto
Milwaukee – currently the worst
Than you have this block of teams poor draft day team hanging around the very frisky 15-20 range
Chicago
Philadelphia
Minnesota
Atlanta
The Spurs already picked off Richard Jefferson (the best swing player acquisition they have had in years) for a poo-poo platter. I have great hope for the opportunities that could be floating around in this draft.
The Spurs manage to reload yet again
contenders for another year or two
I didn’t see it coming. . . .
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jun 25, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Right now they have won the draft. Everyone else is hoping to catch up. I think the trade made Spurs the team to beat in the West. I don’t see how the Lakers believe they can keep up, an athletic wing player to counter Odom and Ariza just took away there advantage.
They just need to add
a backup PF and they’re good to go – assuming health
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jun 25, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, always assuming health with them. With so many teams ready to sell of contracts I think the Spurs will have have plenty of options finding that extra role player. Considering there health issues they might want to add a few players so there core of stars can rest during the regular season to stay healthy.
Agree
But we are probably not getting the 1st banana with this pick.
This is where I am too. Chances are that the Kings aren’t getting anything better than Brooks anyway.
That's where we would diagree
I see Brook best as a 3rd banana (maybe not even) and I could see this pick turning into the number 2 guy on a team. It’s all just guessing of course
Now Chad Ford is reporting
A similar deal on the table for Memphis’ #2.
With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Rickeke Flynenningday, point guard from Europe, Memphis, Syracuse, UCLA and Parts Unknown.
Costs us 500k more than anyone else
The Maloofs wouldn’t be his primary advocates if he was too expensive.
23/31
My guess at either 23 or 31 is Jermaine Taylor. He put up great scoring numbers like Martin, Douby and Wahad did.
Chad Ford's
Nothing has changed (in the top 5 at least)
Bé foréwarnéd: I am a mémbér of StR Groupthink méntality.
change?
Only think I noticed was an update that the Lakers sold their pick and possibly that the Bucks are sold on Jennings at 10
Yeah
I don’t have insider… so I couldn’t tell you if something had changed in the later part of the mock.
Bé foréwarnéd: I am a mémbér of StR Groupthink méntality.
Also from Insider regarding Rubio
Sounds like Ford is thinking he might fall…
There are two theories in play that explain why the Thunder might not be taking Ricky Rubio after all.
The first is the smokescreen theory. It says that the Thunder are very tight-lipped and all of the recent leaks about Rubio are uncharacteristic of a Sam Presti team. They say that the Thunder are leaking Rubio hoping that a team like the Wolves who are hot for him would trade an asset to move up two spots.
The second theory is the Arn Tellem theory. Tellem is the agent for Russell Westbrook and some believe that he’s been exerting major pressure on Presti not to take Rubio. Westrbrook wants to be a point guard and would be unhappy if he was moved to the 2.
I’m not sure I buy the second one at all. It is a tough position for Presti to be in, but in the end I think Rubio would make Westbrook a better player. As for the first one, that one does scare me a bit.
Surprised I haven't heard about this yet...
Has it been posted about here?
http://nba.fanhouse.com/2009/06/25/tyreke-evans-red-flag-a-cousins-murder-plea/
by Kayte'sPinkSock on Jun 25, 2009 12:07 PM PDT reply actions
nevermind
I see Ziller just mentioned it…
by Kayte'sPinkSock on Jun 25, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
still
How is it that the guy that’s been rumored to be at the top of the Kings list (for whatever that’s worth) was THE F-ING DRIVER IN A DRIVE BY SHOOTING and nobody’s really mentioned it until today?
by Kayte'sPinkSock on Jun 25, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
TZ's on it
Posted to his twit today. A little concerning as I don’t know how someone is the driver in a drive-by and not an accomplice. Don’t want to steal this so:
teamzillerRT @RGLittleJoe: @teamziller that’s what I hear about him…he can’t shoot but he can drive!
The nytimes mentioned Tyreke’s connection with a murder in an article a while back. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/sports/ncaabasketball/21preps.html?scp=6&sq=tyreke%20evans&st=cse
If I got in trouble for driving my cousins around capping guys
I’d would have ended up a loser who spends his days on the couch eating Taco Bell writing to sports blogs and sitting sround doing nothing for 8 hours waiting for a draft to start..Crap!
RealGM is posting
…a rumored deal that would send Amare to Golden State for Biedrins and the #7.
Looks like Phoenix determined to move Amare
Uh that's not likely
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I'm not sure where your comment is going Pookey
but Biedrins and the #7 pick wouldn’t be such a bad return for Amare given all the circumstances of the situation.
People are vastly overrating the market for Stoudamire right now, imo.
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After trading ShaQ?
what would they have left? Why keep Nash?
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by lietothegirls on Jun 25, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Market for Amare
If there’s one thing I know, it’s that you don’t sell an asset when the value is low.
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All the more reason not to sell now
Hold him until the deadline and he becomes much more attractive as a trade option. Either:
a) He’s healthy and a contender will take a chance on him for a title push
b) He’s not healthy, but he’s a big expiring contract for a rebuilding team
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I don't understand
you trade for guys that have expiring contracts when you actually don’t want the players.
I agree Amare is worth more than his expiring contract because he’s really good. The problem is, he’s only really good for you for one year, which lowers his value unless you’re real sure you are going to resign him.
Amare is worth more than an expiring contract now and at the deadline, because he’s actually good. You have to trade him asap though, a full season of being good has more value than half a season. Amare is a wasting asset, those don’t go for the price you’d think, unless you get real lucky.
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I disagree
I think the market for him is low right now. He’s been shopped around, and is coming off of season-ending eye surgery. Nobody is biting, so the Suns are becoming willing to let him go for less.
He is worth more than the standard expiring contract if he is healthy. That’s why you hold him. Don’t get rid of him now. Wait til people are more interested in trading for him. And the fact the he’ll be an expiring deal who can play at a high level should make him very, very valuable this season. He can give a contender a boost without taking up cap-space for the infamous summer of 2010.
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Another reason not to trade him
When his head’s on correctly, he gives you 25 ppg, 9 rpg, and 2 bpg on 60% shooting. And he’s 26. I just don’t understand why a “rebuilding” team would let go of a guy like this. If they did trade him, who would they be rebuilding around? Nash, Barbosa, and Richardson? Makes no sense to me.
They’re going to be rebuilding without him next summer, regardless.
That has to be their stance or they wouldn’t be shopping him.
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Guess so
I think they’re going to find that rebuilding is a lot harder than it sounds, and that allstars like Amare don’t grow on trees.
Just heard
on ESPN that they cannot find DeJuan Blair’s ACL in MRI’s. Weird. Don’t know if that would detract from drafting him but he’s a monster rebounder. Wonder if he would fall to #23?
I'm thinking of losing one of mine
but all I do is bowl and shoot a few hoops in the street
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by lietothegirls on Jun 25, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Sam Amick Twitter Update
Still hearing Minn. wants to move No. 5 and one of late first-round picks for OKC’s No. 3.
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What I believe
I believe Minnesota wants to move up.
I believe Minnesota wants to give up less than what Memphis wants in return.
I believe OKC wants to stay right where they’re at.
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I'm not a big Westbrook believer
If Okl could add Rubio or Thabeet, I think thats what they think too.
Westbrook could be moved
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by lietothegirls on Jun 25, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Westbrook for the #4 is something I could absolutely get behind
Could OKC?
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by pookeyguru on Jun 25, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Now you're talkin'!
I’d be ALL-OVER-THAT!!!
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by Noble_Bloodlines on Jun 25, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Me too
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I would fly up to WA just to give you a high five!
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by SactownheartOChouse on Jun 25, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Same
You’d be trading a proven #4 pick from last years strong draft for an unproven #4 in this years weak draft.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement.
#4 and ?
I doubt that OKC would give us Westbrook for the #4 straight up.
- and #23- Ehhh, sure
- and #31- Done deal
by misterbrister on Jun 25, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
$%&*@%(#$&
stupid autoformat. both of those are meant to say #4 and___
by misterbrister on Jun 25, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
If I was OKC
I would do a trade for 5 and 18. I I don’t like it for the prospect of the Kings getting Rubio, but if I was OKC I would do it
Absolutely
if you are OKC and Harden is your guy you do this. If they really want Rubio or Thabeet though, nothing’s getting them to move.
I think their lack of movement bodes very poorly for those of you that want Rubio; it seems very, very unlikely at the moment.
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Great points ForThree
With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Rickeke Flynenningday, point guard from Europe, Memphis, Syracuse, UCLA and Parts Unknown.
I'm all in with Rubio or Flynn
As far as I’m concerned, they’re both at 10.
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I'm for Rubio, then Flynn
if we took Flynn over Rubio I’d be pissed. But if Ricky’s gone I want Jonny Flynn
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That's where we differ
I’m not pissed off either way.
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There is no single reason not to draft Rubio and then trade him to the wolves for the 6 and the 18 or for 5 and a swap of 18 for 23. Its a mismanagement of money and assets, you save on how much your pick costs you still get your man as there is no way they draft Flynn if they trade for Rubio, and you miss out on netting yourself a greater asset whether it be the #18 alone or moving up from 23 to 18.
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by moproblemz on Jun 25, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good point
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by Noble_Bloodlines on Jun 25, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Ford on Presti
The Presti smokescreen theory makes sense. There have been so many leaks about Rubio, that they’ll take him, that they’ll trade him for Lee, that they’ve hired a Spanish law firm, that it’s plausible that it’s all misdirection and oriented at getting trade value.
sheeesh
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by lietothegirls on Jun 25, 2009 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Does this make me a loser?
It occurred to me last night that if Rubio falls to us at #4 and we grab him, it would make for one hell of an opening episode of “Rebuilding the Kingdom” (that’s right, I haven’t forgotten). We’d all get to see how Petrie punked pretty much everyone into believing that we want someone else and that Rubio’s not so great and all that.
You really couldn’t write a better script about the workings of your front office. Your team has the worst record. You know who you want at #1 or #2. You get screwed big time by the lottery and you now have one colossal challenge: getting your man anyways without giving up a damn thing.
The good news is, you’ve got the right dude for the job. Geoff Petrie. Man among boys.
by AnotherStupidSN on Jun 25, 2009 12:41 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Wouldn't it be great
if the opening shots of that were video from Rubio’s workout, and we just see him nailing long 3s and all the FO people there just going nuts?
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by vfettke on Jun 25, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
How good would having John Salmons to trade today look?
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Sam's heating up
New tweet:
Knicks still trying to move up, now have their No. 8 and later pick (s) to entice team like Kings.
With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Rickeke Flynenningday, point guard from Europe, Memphis, Syracuse, UCLA and Parts Unknown.
Agreed...
To me it seems like a big drop after maybe #6.
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by Noble_Bloodlines on Jun 25, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
The Knicks would need to take one of our bad contracts as well.
With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Rickeke Flynenningday, point guard from Europe, Memphis, Syracuse, UCLA and Parts Unknown.
Hollinger chat on ESPN
Sorry, had to take the call there — there’s a BIG trade brewing
DUN DUN DUN!
With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Rickeke Flynenningday, point guard from Europe, Memphis, Syracuse, UCLA and Parts Unknown.
Vince Carter to Orlando
John Hollinger
Nets and Magic are apparently working on a Vince Carter trade, according to our Chad Ford. Rafer Alston, Courtney Lee and Tony Battie would go to New Jersey.
http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/27156/nba-with-john-hollinger
Yup
Courtney Lee looks like he could be an up-and-comer. Devin Harris is solid, Lopez looked good. Young team with talent could be attractive to some 2010 FAs. And let’s face it, they weren’t winning the East with VC.
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Let the conspiracy theories begin
Jay-Z, Brooklyn Nets, blah blah blah
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So what are you saying?
Devin Harris, LeBron, and Shaq in 2010?
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by Noble_Bloodlines on Jun 25, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
No
LeBron is coming to the Kings. That whole Jay-Z thing is just another Petrie smokescreen.
by furious.d on Jun 25, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh, so he's REALLY going to be "King James" huh?
I like it, LOL!
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by Noble_Bloodlines on Jun 25, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I know it's happening
I was just referring to all the theories of a deal with Jay-Z and LeBron already in place and all that garbage.
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I figured that was the case
I just thrive on confrontation. I think it’s because I was raised in an unstable home.
Carter's not bad defensively
When he’s interested. I think it’s an interesting move. It gives them another shot creator, and they’re going to be pretty tough to stop offensively.
John Hollinger
Nets and Magic are apparently working on a Vince Carter trade, according to our Chad Ford. Rafer Alston, Courtney Lee and Tony Battie would go to New Jersey.
John Hollinger
Here’s the link: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4287197
With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Rickeke Flynenningday, point guard from Europe, Memphis, Syracuse, UCLA and Parts Unknown.
Jameer?
He’s not in the trade. What are you referring to?
The Magic would have Nelson, Howard, Lewis and Carter as their core. Even if they don’t re-sign Hedo, pretty potent offense. Still not going to stop anyone.
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Just thinking the same thing.
With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Rickeke Flynenningday, point guard from Europe, Memphis, Syracuse, UCLA and Parts Unknown.
Here's my thinking
I think Memphis is looking for a clear upgrade. If they don’t get it, and they won’t, then they’re staying pat. OKC is very similar.
People think that trading down 2 picks isn’t risky. That has nothing to do with it. There is far more than saving a little money and getting fans juiced up over something for a day.
Fans don’t give 2 shits to the win about what happens on draft day. They have on perception on draft day, and 3 months in they sort of forget what happens on that day.
Franchise’s ignore that. Many always have, and always will. You can count Sacramento in that boat. They have veteran calm men who won’t over-react. This whole process from Memphis and OKC has been to shuck Sac out of an asset knowing how much Rubio would fit in well here in the EC.
But, as we all know, some of that has been taken away by Memphis not even being able to meet him, and OKC has Russell Westbrook to deal with if they do take Rubio.
I’m sorry for you Rubio lovers, but there is no way in hell, or God’s green earth, that if I’m OKC that I would be willing to bet the farm on pissing Westbrook off. His ego is clearly fragile, and his belief that the franchise doesn’t have his best interests would be more detrimental to them than any number of million’s they save.
Westbrook clearly has talent. So does Mayo. Is any G in this draft better than them? If not, you need to find players that complement the talent they have.
That’s why Thabeet is going 2, and Harden 3.
We’ll see in 3 1/2 hours if I’m right.
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I agree also
But.. I am also a Kings fan. I expect the worse.
The NBA: "Where 27 free throws happens"
On God’s green earth I wouldn’t piss off Russell Westbrook either. Give him the weapon he is asking for at SG and let him reward your trust.
Yeah
No doubt.
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I think the Westbrook thing
Is really overblown.
Who the eff is Russell Westbrook to be dictating personnel moves? He’s the third best player on the team. He’s 20 years old.
I really don’t think Presti is going to be intimidated. They might choose Harden if they think he’s BPA, but it won’t be because of Russell “wah!” Westbrook.
Also
What if Durant is pressuring for Rubio (but not in a public forum like his teammate). I’d say he has a bit more clout.
The NBA: "Where 27 free throws happens"
Westbrook looks like he will develop into the 2nd best player on that team. Not to mention his size and defensive ability at the guard counteracts Durant’s limitations. Westbrook probably isn’t the best PG but he is probably the best to compliment Durant .
Even if he were the best player
Do you think Petrie would listen if Kevin Martin were whining about the Kings possibly drafting Tyreke Evans?
ESPN keeps saying it Curry now
over and over
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by lietothegirls on Jun 25, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Hence why the Knicks are trying to move to #4...
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Agreed
If I’m OKC I don’t mess with the chemistry I have. Westbrook, Green, and Durant make up an exciting young core. I’d prefer to add another scorer like Harden or Curry to that mix
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I'd take Curry
For OKC. Neither can play defense, might as well get the guy that is guaranteed to hit the shot.
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Adding Gortat to that mix doesn't hurt either
Guy has a high bball IQ, and is an excellent defender/rebounder. All of those things are stuff OKC needs.
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Yeah right
I think they’d try to pass off Alston way before they’d give up Harris. But we can dream…
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Whose Alston?
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Nevermind
I never realized there was yet another trade. Man this has been a crazy draft. It would hold to true form that no major draft day deal happens.
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I dont know why you'd trade Harris for the #4
If you’re the Nets. There’s zero guarantee that anyone there would be as good as Harris.
You wouldn't
We’d have to at least give back one of the young bigs.
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180 more minutes of hell
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because
Harris and Alston both play the point. I can see them preferring to move Alston instead, but if they move VC they need scoring. Having duplicative players at the point when they could trade for other options makes sense. I’m not saying they WOULD move either to Sac, but its not far-fetched.
Latest from DraftExpress:
Right now it appears that Oklahoma City is leaning towards picking Rubio and keeping him as a trading chip to potentially use this summer. A few sources we spoke with mentioned that they still expect Rubio to end up in New York when it’s all said and done.
Oklahoma City is also active in trade talk with Phoenix, with their main target appearing to be Robin Lopez. They are reportedly offering Phoenix their 2010 unprotected pick back in return for Lopez, but that seems like a very high price for the Suns to pay.
Sacramento seems to be leaning towards Tyreke Evans from what we’re hearing, and may have even told him as much.
http://www.draftexpress.com/blog/Jonathan-Givony/#Live-Blogging-the-2009-NBA-Draft-3287
This only makes sense for OKC
if they don’t really want Harden/Thabeet/Evans/Curry, which it seems like they probably do, right? Right???
by AnotherStupidSN on Jun 25, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm sure they want Thabeet
But Memphis will draft him. Evan sisn’t really the outside shooter/defender they need at the 2 spot, nor really is Harden. Curry is a point guard, and 3 is too high for him.
I can see them just taking Rubio and making the best of it whether through trade or by seeing how he works with Westbrook.
NEW THREAD! NEW THREAD! NEW THREAD!
Come on everyone, put your hands together!
With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Rickeke Flynenningday, point guard from Europe, Memphis, Syracuse, UCLA and Parts Unknown.
There's a new thread?
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I'm requesting a new thread
Stay with me brother!
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I'll flip the switch at 3:30
if TZ doesn’t beat me to it.
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Why flip that early
It’s just gotta get crazy at 4 pm anyway. These threads don’t overload once they hit 800 comments. LOL
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Yessah
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TZ just added to the front page,
so we’ll wait until 4 PM.
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You know how many times 3QC gets to 2000 comments during the playoffs?
And people told Eddy Rivera to make a new thread. He said, " It will be fine. " And, after one thread with 2400 comments, it was. Or even one’s with 1500-2000 comments.
I don’t think StR will break. I’m pretty sure of that.
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