In Defense of Jon Brockman
by Tom Ziller on Jun 25, 2009 9:00 PM PDT
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PrintLike many Kings fans, the selection of Jon "Kent" Brockman at No. 38 was a surprise, and initially a disappointment. I mean, DeJuan Freaking Blair went off the board one pick earlier! I feel safe in saying that had the Kings passed on Brockman for someone like Patrick Mills, Derrick Brown, Danny Green or Nick Calathes, the husky Husky may have gone undrafted.
But just looking at Brockman's body and his draft stock ignores what he could really offer the team.
... and that's rebounding. The below table outlines Brockman's national ranks in offensive and defensive rebound rate according to Ken Pomeroy.
| Season | OReb% Rank | DReb% Rank |
| Frosh | 110 | 125 |
| Soph | 12 | 21 |
| Junior | 16 | 10 |
| Senior | 9 | 16 |
The Kings landed a player who has been among the top 16 offensive rebounders and top 21 defensive rebounders in all of college basketball over the past three seasons. There are more than 300 NCAA teams and more than 2,000 players eligible for these rankings. Brockman has been among the best every year.
Meanwhile, the Kings are among the worst rebounding teams in the NBA.
I don't want to blow smoke. He's a limited player who will serve a Reggie Evans role at best. I have no idea how his overall defense is (the team ranked No. 9 in the nation last season), and I doubt he'll score on anything other than putbacks. But given the track record of second round picks in terms of success -- it's limited all over the league, not just in Sacramento -- it's hard to raise hackles about this pick. Sorry if that disappoints you.
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Yeah I'm disappointed
That has nothing to do with Brockman though.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Nice post
Can you really complain with a Reggie Evans type of guy in the 2nd round?
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
Yes
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
But do you really want me to expand on why?
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Would rather not
I’d rather wait until I can wake up tomorrow and react with something better than “Petrie is senile” when he is probably nnot.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
The guru had his own money
on Derrick Brown. I personally also don’t quite understand how he even got that far into it undrafted. Pookster couldn’t believe his luck. Then…wha?!
Even though I was a Rubio guy, I like this. Tough, tough, followed by tough. Maybe this new personality will make Arco our castle again.
Lower their expectations and rise to met them
I dont want that type of player on my team,
9. Reggie Evans: For all we know, it was an isolated incident (unless you count spanking Kyle Korver on the butt), but if there’s one rule on the basketball court, it’s never grab another guy’s testicles. Unfortunately, Evans did just that to gain a positional advantage during the 2006 playoffs, violating an unsuspecting Chris Kaman by putting his hand up his shorts and "pulling hard." We still haven’t received word on whether it was the beans or the frank.
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9the dirtiest player in league history, even if he is in good company, i dont want it.
by passionforPERPS on Jun 25, 2009 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
9th
and side note, Peja is an honorable mention lol.
by passionforPERPS on Jun 25, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
So did KG in the playoffs,
your point, please?
Sometimes real life interferes with real fandom, darn it!
if
you feel comfortable with a Reggie Evans to KG comparision by all means keep talking.
by passionforPERPS on Jun 26, 2009 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Pelton
Kevin Pelton of Basketball Prospectus is a UW alum and Seattle native. He has seen basically every game in Brockman’s college career. I asked about Brockman’s defense.
Decent, but he’s just too short to stop long big men. Jordan Hill and Jeff Pendegraph gave him a lot of trouble. Not a shot-blocker either. Much better offensive player than [Reggie] Evans, however. His big problem is, again, size. He’ll get his shot blocked a lot. But he’s got some range and pretty good touch in the paint.
by Tom Ziller on Jun 25, 2009 9:19 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Well then,
“But he’s got some range and pretty good touch in the paint.”
That could not have been said about Brown…
"geez its like this site is so serious i jus wanna git mai opinyons on tha Kings out there ok" - TZ
TZ in Pelton's Draft Pool Frontcourt Post which you referred to today Pelton had this to say about Brockman:
Late First Round
2. John Bryant, Santa Clara (0.9 WARP)
Age: 21.9 | Projected Stats: 0.583 Win% | 0.519 TS% | 19.6 Usage | 22.8 Reb% | 0.03 Pass
Aaron Gray (94.5), Roy Hibbert (90.8), David Harrison (89.5)
In terms of translated winning percentage, Bryant ranks behind just Blair and Griffin. Here, the similarity system does its job, comparing him to other slow-footed big men with strong college numbers. Even with the adjustment, Bryant still comes out as an underrated prospect who should go somewhere in the second round. As a third center, you could do much worse.
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
This team
had 8 roster players coming into tonight (including Thomas, not including McCants/Diogu/Simmons). Now they have 12.
Brockman is not going to be invited to the rookie/soph game, but he will bang in practice and gladly occupy the 12th seat on the bench, providing tremendous effort on the occasions that he gets in, all for less than $500k a year. As odd as it sounds, this roster needed a guy like this.
Brockman would not have been my choice at 38, but he will not cost us any victories that another player drafted at 38 would have secured.
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by section214 on Jun 25, 2009 9:31 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Good take
Only need one more player. A backup Center would be good IMO.
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by Kfan in Korea on Jun 26, 2009 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why does GP keep picking guys that would have gone undrafted?
Honestly…why even have a 2nd round pick?
Not for nothing,
But Mike Taylor is really the only guy that was drafted after Singletary and Ewing that did anything last year (mostly against the Kings).
And I do recall that Petrie has drafted Michael Smith, Lawrence Funderburke, Anthony Johnson and Tyus Edney in the 2nd round. That may not sound like a lot, but when you consider how few 2nd rounders make it in the NBA, I would say that GP has at least held his own in the 2nd round.
And 1 – This year’s 2nd round pick netted Sergio Rodriguez and Brockman. I would rate that as a “pass.”
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Can we name him "King of Pop"?
MJ died today and he think he holds an NCAA record for giving opponents broken noses.
Blazer/Husky fan here...
I just wanted to say I think you guys had a great draft. And Brockman will be a very good player for you. Look, I love Kevin Pelton;s analysis and all, but I think he missed it on Brockman. The guy is a horse. He was a man among boys at the Portsmouth tournament….just look at his numbers. And he is as tough as they come. That will more than make up for him being 6’7". Remember, that’s a couple of inches taller than Charles Barkley, and he was a pretty decent rebounder.
Rebounding and defense come from attitude, and Jon Brockman has it in spades.
Frankly, I was hoping Brockman would be a Blazer.
Also, when Brockman and Hawes played together for a year at the U of W, Brockman was by far the better player of the two. Hawes was about potential. Brockman was about smashing hte opponent in the mouth and muscling his way to a rebound and put-back. He also did really well at drawing fouls and making his free throws….very useful skills in the NBA.
Hmm. I question a Husky fan who says Brockman did really well in making his free throws. ;)
There were other guys on the board I liked better, but in general Brockman is fine value at 38. I don’t agree that he would have gone undrafted. Most mocks had him going somewhere in the second round, and his stock rose considerably over the past month or so.
Because I'm a Husky fan....
as long as he’s not bricking it like Shaq…….it;s all good. :-)
by antediluvian on Jun 29, 2009 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Sucks??
Really? And what do you base this deeply thought our analysis on? He’s a 2nd round banger. Petrie has had better success than most in the second round. Give the kid a chance to show what he’s got before we just throw him into the “SUX” catagory…
Another year, another chance to hope for the team !!
Pwnd by FaStRmAn
That’s gotta hurt.
With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Tyreke Evans, STUD out of Memphis.
by otis29 on Jun 26, 2009 6:11 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
FaStR has climbed out of the "SUX" category
Kent deserves the same shot
You may fault my analysis
But the dude will be a bad NBA player. Do you doubt that?
Brock has grit. If he would have played a year of football, I’m sure Paul Allen would have happily drafted him for his other sports team; the Seattle Seahawks.
You’re getting a mature, strong, beast of a player. Plus his character can’t be beat.
Not like the Utah Jazz... it's about REAL jazz. Go Dawgs, Go Blazers!
Seattle native here
Watch him play quite a few games. I was shocked to see him drafted, but I guess this goes to show you the weakness of this draft, especially big man
First off, the positives that may transfer to the NBA.
+ Already noted above, a glass cleaner. He’ll park his butt in the paint.
+ Doesn’t quit on his inside shots.
+ Plays big and likes to bang.
+ Has a quick release inside.
Now some of negatives.
- No lateral speed or agility to guard the pick and roll or any mobile 4’s.
- Short and not athletic, he’ll play below the rim. This is ok for college, but he’ll have trouble in the NBA making a contested shot against bigger competition.
- Limited range, almost all his shots were inside with an occasional FT elbow jumper.
- Poor FT shooter.
- Many of his rebounds were on the offensive end, it’s doubtful he’ll get those types of rebounds in the NBA considering his size and speed. I don’t see him being able to block out either on the defensive end. Brockman got his rebounds through his girth advantage in college, not fundamentals.
I’m surprised to see the name Reggie Evans. He actually does have the size and length to play the PF position. Something Brockman lacks.
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we should of taken jeff adrien, he does what brockman does but better. maybe we can get him to play for the summer league.
LPA already went to bed
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by lietothegirls on Jun 26, 2009 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe #38 is too high for him
but i definitively loved this guy in the NCAA this year. He played with energy, love of the game and was definitively willing to win.
He’s very physical, a great rebounder (can’t wait to see what beast of rebouder can he become working with Truck Robinson).
He is short for a center, but he never back down from a contact and can be a great backup. We are talking about a #38 pick, so it was quite sure we couldn’t pick the next LeBron with that.
"Even when I’m old and grey, I won’t be able to play it, but I’ll still love the game." — Michael Jordan
Go Kings!
Seems like purely a practice player
But if you add Sergio Rodriguez, I’m pleased with what we got for the 31st pick.
More than a practice player
Brockman is a stronger (much stronger) offensive player than Reggie Evans. He hits an open 17 footer; he’s a decent interior passer. Especially during the regular season – when his level of effort will exceed everyone’s — he’ll eat rebounds like they’re food. Great second round pick.
Brock is a Rock
I have been watching Brock play since he was a 7th grader (no kidding). What he WILL bring to your team is something that every team needs – a personality. He will eventually become the center of a theme that will follow you guys for many years to come – focused, tenacious, focused, disciplined and focused.
It will take but a very short time for you all to realize the type of person Jon is and you will grow to appreciate him not only as a baller but a person as well.
Not saying that Jon is Larry Bird – but The Birdman couldn’t jump, he was slow; his lateral quickness was not impressive – blah, blah, blah. Charles Barkley and Dennis Rodman were too short to be effective rebounders in the NBA – blah, blah, blah.
Point is – what can NEVER be measured is the size of a man’s heart and if there was EVER a word that described Jon Brockman, it’s “Heart”.
Sit back and get prepared to enjoy Jon Brockman – the man and the player.
Thank you
Brockman is a great pick. He plays hard every game. As a Husky, he dove for loose balls at the slightest provocation, his jersey was consistently bloody, and he broke more than one opponent’s nose. He shut down Big Baby when the Huskies beat LSU in 2007(?) and led the Pac-10 in rebounding for four years. He is the consummate team player. Should he and Spencer ever get on the floor together, they have phenomenal chemistry and are a lot of fun to watch.
Sincerely,
Jon Brockman’s Mom
by Snakes in the Trees on Jun 26, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
I
like how Kings fans wanted someone who can rebound, so Petrie picks someone who can, and fans are still not happy.
If you're not first ... you're last.
Well
You kind of hope that the guy you’re picking to be a rebounder can do it in the NBA. Unathletic 6’7" guys are not normally rebounding champions. I like Brockman and think he’s fine for a 2nd Round pick, but I’m skeptical he will amount to much on the floor. Hope I’m proven wrong.
FOOLS...
Jon Brockman is a great 2nd round pick up. He will produce like crazy in the limited minutes he will play and he will make the Kings better with his attitude and effort in practice. He is one of those guys you never want to play against.
Solid opening to your first post at the site
With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Tyreke Evans, STUD out of Memphis.
I have a feeling that the Sacramento Kings Rifle Club just doubled it's membership
Maybe Tyreke can drive them to the range?
by AnotherStupidSN on Jun 26, 2009 10:05 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Misconception
There is one major misconception regarding Jon Brockman on this board. The idea that he is unathletic is completely false. I have watched Brockman play since he was a freshman in highschool and even played against him once in a highschool pre-season tournament. I can tell you without a doubt that this guy is athletic. He is very fast and can definitely play above the rim. He was even in the dunk contest at the High School Mcdonalds All American Game, and he threw down some pretty nice dunks. He is so athletic that he was even looked at by the UW football coaches. Aside from his athletic ability I have enjoyed watching Brockman play more than any other college player. He is a great guy and an even better teammate. Also he and Spencer are very close friends and play extremely well together. Another thing people don’t know about him is that he is a great passer, possibly even better than Spencer in this area (however, that guy who said Brockman was better than Spencer in college is totally wrong). One final note is that Brockman will without a doubt be the toughest guy on the court on any given night.
by seatown_kings_fan on Jun 26, 2009 1:43 PM PDT reply actions
I like that Brockman comes with his own cult-following...
Welcome to Sactown “Kent”…I hope to see you breakin a few noses around here…
by NorCal BillsFan on Jun 26, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I nominate Kobe
and here’s to hoping that Horry comes out of retirement long enough to play in a game against the Kings.
Interesting
I like that Brockman comes with his own cult-following…
Between him and Casspi, I find it fascinating that the player currently bringing the least number of new fans so far is the #4 overall pick.
This should obviously change when they all start playing . . . I just thought it was interesting.
Could be because
Brockman played a few years at UW, and Casspi represents an entire country, while Evans was one and done at Memphis.
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Oh Definitely
I wasn’t trying to disparage Evans in any way (and understood all the reasons you list above).
I even forgot to mention Sergio (but meant to)!
I just got to thinking about how Rubio was the “popular” pick that would have “sold tickets” and “brought fans” and everyone talking about how the Maloofs would force Petrie to take him for that reason . . . and in the end the highest pick was used on the player that brings the least number of built-in fans with him (and I believe he’ll make more than the 3 other picks combined when you offset Sergio’s salary with the cash considerations from the deal that brought him in).
If anything it’s another nail in the BPA coffin, and honestly makes the pick that much easier to get behind (if one wasn’t already). If the primary goal was to generate interest/sell tickets then Rubio (along with the 3 other players brought in) would have had the maximum effect.
In Petrie We Trust . . . so long SacTownRubio, hello SacTyRoyalty!
Again, just some interesting observations.
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