What should the Kings draft grade be?
In my previous fanpost, a couple of people stated that they'd be interested in seeing how other fans here at STR would grade the draft. Now here's your chance to do just that.
Here's a quick recap of what we did:
-Passed over Ricky Rubio in favor of Tyreke Evans with the fourth pick.
-Drafted Israeli basketball player Omri Casspi with the 23rd pick
-Drafted Jeff Pendergraph with the 31st pick and then traded him to Portland for the 38th pick (Jon Brockman), Sergio Rodriguez and cash. (though I don't know how much they gave us)
(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)
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How much money did Portland give us?
If anyone could find out, I’d appreciate it.
by 9erguy on Jun 26, 2009 10:59 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
1.5 mil
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by lodisacfan on Jun 26, 2009 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I said B+
I think Evans was BPA and trust Geoff. I know they really like Casspi and will also trust them there given I’ve never seen him play other than YouTube videos.
I feel like they might have been able to do better than Brockman in the 2nd Round, which lowers the grade, but at the very least he has the right qualities you’d look for in a 2nd Round pick, and hopefully he will push JT and Hawes in practice.
I’m not much of a Sergio Rodriguez fan (at least not until he can shoot higher than 40%), but he’s not a bad third point guard.
Overall I’m encouraged that the Maloofs resisted Rubio mania and let Petrie pick the guy he wanted. It sounds like they got their guy. I’m happy with that.
by nbrans on Jun 26, 2009 11:00 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
I think they got the most important pick right. It would have been exciting to see us grab one of the falling DeJuan/DaJuans, Calathes, or Green in the second round, but the Rodriguez trade makes up for some of that. I just hope in a few years we’re not wishing we’d taken Blair this year or Ante Tomic last year instead of JR Ewing.
by ttylerbballcamper on Jun 26, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
C-
Evans is an OK pick, he would’ve been my first choice if Rubio was off the board, but with Rubio still available, it looked like Petrie just made the pick for the short term (maybe to get a contract extension). Even if Evans lives up to his billing, he will never have the cour vision and ability to “make teammates better” that Rubio is known for.
Casspi is another guy who wasn’t a bad pick, I think he will be a solid NBA player. Only thing is, we have his exact clone already on the roster in Noce. Also it really bothers me that we passed on Blair who would’ve been a great third member in our big rotation.
Brockman was a damn joke. There were MUCH more talented players available in Brown, Budinger, and Mills. And if GP really wanted a gritty undersized four who can rebound, there was one with enough athleticism to actually play in the NBA, in Jeff Adrien.
I may be proved wrong next season, but for now, I can’t give this draft anything higher than a C-.
by Big ZK on Jun 26, 2009 11:11 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I Felt The Same Way
Blair was still there and I think he would’ve been so much more beneficial.
J-Mac got arm, D-Mac is unique, DHB got the hands, and he can move his feet.
Niners got Hill, he is really cheap, now they got Crabtree, hey don't fall asleep.
by Rayder K on Jun 26, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or Mullens.
"Or, as Randy Jackson would say: Not feelin’ it, dawg."
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by jjham15 on Jun 26, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blair wasn't there
The Spurs picked him with the 37th pick.
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by submison on Jun 26, 2009 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they are talking about the 23rd
by eduardo_m7 on Jun 26, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ya we were
J-Mac got arm, D-Mac is unique, DHB got the hands, and he can move his feet.
Niners got Hill, he is really cheap, now they got Crabtree, hey don't fall asleep.
by Rayder K on Jun 26, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I gave the draft a B-
based on Casspi, Brockman, and especially picking up Rodriguez. Getting some rebounding help and a grinder for practice in Brockman is about all you can ask for in a 2nd round pick. You guys act like these other players available in the 2nd round were sure things to be better than Brockman; say what you want, maybe they are, maybe they’re not but at least we know what exactly we’re getting into with Brockman, and he’s a contributor.
Still can’t get over Evans though. BPA, maybe. I dislike that his great workouts, where he looked like a man against boys, occurred when he was playing against a bunch of smaller PGs. And I’ve had a fatty man crush on Ricky for months now. It won’t die so easily.
by coachtheus on Jun 26, 2009 11:42 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
This is something that bothers me
With some of the people who don’t like Evans:
I dislike that his great workouts, where he looked like a man against boys, occurred when he was playing against a bunch of smaller PGs.
And this may or may not apply to you coachtheus – it seems there are quite a few people who take his domination of smaller guards in these workouts as evidence Evans is not as good of a prospect as Rubio, Flynn, etc.
If one does not want to put much weight in the workouts, fine. But to use it as a disqualifier of Evans from consideration as the pick of the Kings? That seems illogical to me.
With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Tyreke Evans, STUD out of Memphis.
by otis29 on Jun 26, 2009 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, not at all
just that the reason he may have looked so good in workouts was because of his size. Not a comment on how good a prospect he is vs. Rubio, Flynn, etc. or a disqualifier per se, just something to be noted. Of course, that domination has value, especially if he ends up spending a lot of time at the 1.
by coachtheus on Jun 26, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was the same way
but hearing that Evans is definetly going to be the PG (and I use that term loosley), those are the kind of players he will be going against regularly. My biggest knock was that he was a big player going against weaker 1’s that have not developed thier bodies yet. But thinking about it, Evans is not done developing either. He will get stronger in the nba, and hopefully keep his quickness.
One thing that stood out to me was that at the combine, Evans could lift the bar 9, and curry could go 10. Thats sticks out, especially considering how much stronger Evans is that curry already.
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by Ellimist on Jun 26, 2009 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't seen anyone say his workouts were a negative
I’ve been against Evans from the beginning, and all I ever said was that his workouts were not a positive. Everyone gushed over how well he did against smaller point guards, and I just said it’s not fair for a larger player to be matched up against them, so he shouldn’t get bonus points for doing what everyone expects of him.
by Charlieb on Jun 26, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because Evans won't match up against small PGs when he's playing PG for the Kings?
Uh…
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by Gallagher's Watermelons on Jun 26, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he’s not a point guard, and never will be in this league. People who say otherwise are crazy. He didn’t even average 4 assists per game in college.
by IrishSlim on Jun 26, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was the guy's freshman year...
…and he:
- practiced, scrimmaged, and played as a shooting guard for the first ten games of his collegiate career, to include preseason activities
- played in a scrambling-style offense that isn’t conducive to high assist numbers. How come no one bashed Derrick Rose’s 4.7 APG prior to him going #1 last year?
- led his team to 27 straight wins and a top ten ranking as a point guard
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by Gallagher's Watermelons on Jun 26, 2009 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
its true
a lot of his turnovers were a result of the team’s spread offense, where it depended on Evans’ iso. The reason he didn’t get as many assists is because of the 2nd and 3rd passes comming out of his dribble drives. Also, the Tigers were one of the worst 3pt shooting teams in the NCAA last season. I think in his case, the numbers don’t tell the whole story.
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by Ellimist on Jun 27, 2009 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
B+
I gave it an “A,” minus my respect for pookey’s opinion, which dropped it to a “B+.”
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by section214 on Jun 26, 2009 12:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
A minus
Reasons: Tyreke Evans was, by all accounts, the BPA, met the PG criteria, met the pre-draft list of desires and very strongly approved of by the FO including the new Head Coach and his assisstants.
This rates an “A”.
Omri Casspi was at the top of the StR draft choices for #23. The conjecture was the pretender (KP) to our own Mr. Blazer (GP) leapfrogged from #24 to #22 just to pass the Kings. Was Claver the real pick? doesn’t make sense as Claver wanted to be in the second round and the first pick in the second round was Rose Garden bound..
This rates an "A’.
Trading the #31 pick (and what turned out to be DeJuan Blair) for a real PG Sergio Rodriquez who is a known entity, a first round talent with NBA experience who needed a change, for #38 and offsetting money to try him out. It is retrospectoscope because I would have really loved to have Blair, but what other PG are you going to get ? The Kings Pre-Empted the FA/Summer League Market by getting a PG who would have been at “the top of the bottom”. No Tyronne Lue, Bobby Brown.or Sean Singletary. In place of nearly getting DeJuan Blair they get John Brockman who is maybe better than Budinger, Danny Green, Derrick Brown, or Nick Calathes as a fit for the Kings and at #38 Mike Peplowski but the pick is just okay.
This rates: #31 for Sergio and Brockman as an “A” for Serge but a “B” for Kent = A-/B+
It adds up to an “A -” and that is because
my respect for pookey’s opinionis not enough, I respect Pookey, just not his opinions…,(jk PG)
by betweentheeyes on Jun 26, 2009 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
C+
I like the Casspi pick and the trade for Sergio for free, but C+ is the highest I can give it after drafting Evans.
C+ is average, and that’s exactly what I think of Evans. It’s a good bet that he’ll be ready to contribute from day one and be a solid player for years, but I don’t think there is much chance that he ends up as a superstar. He’s a below average passer, a poor shooter, and he turns the ball over far too much. He’s a decent athlete, a potentially good defender, and he has good size for a PG (but only average size for a SG, which I think is his natural position), but none of those are elite skills. The only thing the guy does that is exceptional is his ability to get to the rim, and the only way that translates to the NBA is if he learns how to shoot to keep defenses honest and he learns to not turn the ball over so much – this is a possibility, but certainly shouldn’t be taken as a given.
Everything about this guy leads me to believe he’ll be good, but not great. Obviously Petrie is a better talent evaluator than I, but I just don’t believe that Petrie actually thinks Evans will be the best player in the draft – I think they just didn’t want to risk striking out. It’s extremely disheartening that a 17-win team didn’t try to swing for the fences with a guy like Rubio or Jennings.
by Charlieb on Jun 26, 2009 12:53 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
C+
All projected picks in the first round, going with the plans from the start, no matter how the landscape around them changes. What really lowered their grade for me is passing up on Calathes. I was pushing hard for him with our 23rd or second rounder. Instead they draft a guy that would have gone undrafted (same thing last year, too).
by CloudyEyes on Jun 26, 2009 12:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I Know We Are All Negative About Evans
But he has to be somewhat decent because right when he became a PG, his team took off. was it like 25-1 or 27-1 that Memphis went
J-Mac got arm, D-Mac is unique, DHB got the hands, and he can move his feet.
Niners got Hill, he is really cheap, now they got Crabtree, hey don't fall asleep.
by Rayder K on Jun 26, 2009 1:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
B+
I don’t believe GP’s or Gavin Maloofs’ reaction was feigned at all, they seemed overjoyed to have drafted the player they wanted all along. I think Evans is going to be special and have better skills at the 1 than many are giving him credit for. The only time he has played the 2 was for Memphis in their first 10 games. He was a pg in high school and was very impressive.
I think he has a good support group around him and they came together to help him progress. I doubt you will see a “team dime” around him because his older brother who raised him wouldn’t put up with it. He’s a hard worker, who. from all the interviews I listened to realizes that his selection guarentees nothing but the chance to work his but off, he doesn’t sound like a kid who thinks he’s arrived, just a kid who understands that the work has just begun. I’m pretty sure that he and Kevin are going to be an impressive backcourt and for the record, I don’t think running over and dominating smaller pgs in practice is bogus. I call it a mismatch which is something coaches always try for when possible and small quick pgs are the new trend in the NBA.
Casspi appears tough and driven to get better and has the nation of Israel on his shoulders. After that load, carrying the Kings on his back off the bench for limited minutes is going to be a piece of cake. He has played at the top level of Euro ball, impressed at Treviso and has improved consistently. He is a tough SOB, aggressive with a great motor, athletic, decent defender and appears to me to be exactly the type of player Petrie does so well taking in the high 1st round in the draft. If nothing else, he is going to push Donté to get with the program and buckle down and get serious about his game.
I think that DuJuan Blair is likely going to be the steal of the draft for the Spurs but having said that, there has to be something in his medical reports that scared off GM’s, especially after having uniformly great workouts at the pre draft workouts. Blair’s big skill is rebounding and when it comes to rebounding Brockman is no slouch. He was rated as the 3rd best collegiate rebounder in his junior year with a more developed offensive game than Blair’s. he has played with Spence in college and that shared experience can’t do anything but help. He is a tough banger, a beast on the offensive boards, his contract is going to be cheap and again, as is true with all the picks selected last night, he adds a desperately needed dose of toughness.
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by Bluejohn on Jun 26, 2009 2:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
B+
I’m not high on Omri – all the videos I see of him don’t scream “athletecism”, but I am waiting to be proved wrong. As far as I can tell, he’s the Israeli version of Nocioni. That no one better was necessarily available doesn’t mean we should congratulate the FO on not making a move to get somebody better. However, if this was their guy, then I am definitely interested in seeing what he develops into. He’s definitely not a Hedo, but if he could develop as more of a wing-version of Dirk (hit the three, grind it in the post, but play perimeter defense), then maybe he could be better than I imagined. He certainly would provide a change of pace from Greene.
Brockman will never play in the NBA.
Sergio is a great pickup. I’m excited about that. He brings the grade from a B to a B+.
Tyreke is a good choice to me, I’m fine with it. I’m not ecstatic, as I likely would have been with Rubio. But, check what I’m spec’ing right now:
Evans – 6’6"
Rodriguez – 6’3"
Martin – 6’7"
Garcia – 6’7"
Greene – 6’10"
Casspi – 6’9"
Thompson – 6’11"
Hawes – 7’0"
This is a monstrously tall lineup. Ginormous. Like, play Garcia at the point and the average height would be 6’9" – monstrous.
Plus, these guys are gonna kill it in summer league. I’m excited for Vegas.
Victory is tasty.
by iashwash on Jun 26, 2009 2:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
how do you get 6'6" for evans...
he’s 6’4" barefoot 6’5.25" in shoes. For a SG he’s undersized and for a PG his draft combine agility and sprint tests are below avg for a PG. I’m sure opposing PGs will have problems guarding Evans but who’s to say that Evans can stay in front of quicker players (most staring PGs in the NBA)
by ucla06 on Jun 26, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, but 6'5 with a monsterous wingspan is not undersized for a SG.
Not to mention that he’s considered by many to be a very physical/strong athlete, who pundits have suggested could “guard 3 positions”, and I just don’t see your point.
I think the Kings brought in Evans to play against Flynn/Jennings/etc. specifically to see how he would handle quicker guards on defense – obviously they were not concerned with what they saw.
by cabz on Jun 26, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If any player in this year's draft
becomes any kind of version of Dirk, he would be better than almost anyone imagined.
And, if Casspi becomes the Israeli version of Noci, that would be an excellent #23 pick.
Yes, summer league should be really fun. Without getting over-the-top, imagine where we already are if Evans turns out to be one of the top two talents next year, Thompson and Hawes make solid improvement, Greene comes into his own and gives meaningful minutes, Martin is healthy, and Rodriquez flourishes in this system. Just thinking crazy here for a minute.
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by left hand on Jun 26, 2009 2:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
B
I would’ve preferred Curry, but I see how he probably wouldn’t work with fellow skinny guy (though I love him) Kevin Martin.
Not sure Evans is a PG – but maybe thats overrated in the Princeton.
So if he can play like Salmons (who i think he’s similar to) but pass the ball a lot more and pound it less, it was a good pick.
I’m more than fine with Casspi, Rodriguez (for what we paid) and Brockman. Now Sergio essentially cost us Blair or someone like him . . . .
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by lietothegirls on Jun 26, 2009 2:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
what princeton?
did we hire eddie jordan?
by Citadel 29 on Jun 26, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I went with a B
I’m still not sold on Evans, although I think he has star potential, Rubio would have been my pick there. Casspi looks to be very aggressive and thats what this team needs. I think this is Petrie telling everyone that the days of flashy point guard play and sweet dishes from the bigs (not taking anything away from JT and Hawes) are over and its time to become a more physical team. Especially with the Brockman pick, the only thing I know about the guy is that he is very physical and will push his teammates. I have mixed feelings though, because the days of Bibby/Webber/Divac is the reason that I fell in love with Kings basketball in the first place. Oh well, here’s hoping towards a bright future
by MTBalla on Jun 26, 2009 3:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
C
Evans – F. Great player, terrible fit with our team.
Cappri- A. Solid. Vintage Kings.
Brockman – Incomplete. We shouldn’t have traded the 31 pick (Rodriguez is garbage, there’s a reason the Blazers gave him away, and we could have had Dejuan Blair or Sam Young – instant toughness), but none of that is Brockman’s fault. I honestly have no idea what to expect from him, although I’m sure the Reno Bighorns have a spot ready for him, at least initially.
by IrishSlim on Jun 26, 2009 3:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Who is Cappri?
With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Tyreke Evans, STUD out of Memphis.
by otis29 on Jun 26, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The trade happened way before the draft started
not during the draft.
by CloudyEyes on Jun 26, 2009 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
B
Evans -
I didn’t like the pick but hope I’m wrong. An average athlete who is old for a first year player. He is essentially a SG with an ugly inconsistent shot who knows how to get to the basket. I’m not convinced he will be much better than Salmons was. We all know how much it helped the offense with Salmons dribbling the ball so much. Ball dominant players kill ball movement.
Casspi-
Don’t know much about him but seems like a great prospect
Brockman-
Seen Brockman played many times on tv and once in person. Hard nosed banger who rebounds well. I didn’t know if his rebounding would translate to the NBA but Kevin Love’s did and Brockman is about the same size and a better rebounder. Will he be worth playing with questionable offensive skills? He has a decent chance to make the roster.
by ucla06 on Jun 26, 2009 4:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
A - (I'm seeing a nice bell curve there)
Geoff Petrie is smarter than all of us. He had a chance to see Rubio play many times in person and interview him and was the only executive that had a chance to give him a private workout. We all saw a ten minute video of the best plays of his entire career one after the other for wow effect and maybe watched the Olympics final. If Geoff Petrie believes Evans will be a better point guard than Ricky Rubio, then I trust him more than I trust myself on that.
WE DRAFTED OURSELVES A TWO GUARD! OH NO!
No we didn’t. We drafted ourselves a point guard who played shooting guard for ten games at Memphis and then played very well at the point guard position when he was moved back causing his team to play exceptionally better. He’s still learning the point guard position and will continue to do so under our coaching staff. Don’t be daft. We didn’t draft him to be Kevin Martin’s backup. He’s a very good player as is and if he continues to develop he’ll be a fantastic point guard in the future. At the very least the days of watching opposing point guards drive into the paint at will are OVER.
Don’t bash the pick before you see him play in a Kings uniform. We’ve been proved wrong time and time again. Geoff Petrie is smarter than you and me and most other executives in the NBA. This wasn’t even one of his biggest reaches, and before the draft a lot of us would have been happy to get Evans. We all talked about “In Petrie We Trust” but I can see now that a lot of that was only halfhearted because I don’t see the trust from you guys anymore (at least not as much as I would hope). The anger I’m seeing from fans is absolutely baffling. Take a second and breathe a little bit and I think the more you think about this pick, the better it’s going to look. You have seen NO REASON why this pick is a bad one. NONE. No games have been played. Until then, either shut your mouth and hope for the best or go apply for an NBA GM job somewhere.
by jveezy on Jun 26, 2009 7:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
A-
I agree completely w/ this opinion, especially the part about Petrie doing a shit ton of research on Rubio which none of us have done. I wanted Rubio too, but almost more for his marketability than his game. The more I think about it, the more I think Evans will be the better player in the long run.
I gave this draft an A- instead of an A because of Brockman, I doubt he makes it to the league. But then again, it probably wouldn’t have been fair to Patty Mills or Chase Budinger to draft them, seeing as how they wouldn’t make it to the floor on our team and unfortunately all the big guys were snatched up just before our pick.
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by lodisacfan on Jun 26, 2009 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The NBA
Where I happen?
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on Jun 26, 2009 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you happened all over Vlade's face
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by lodisacfan on Jun 26, 2009 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As far as marketability goes
I think Casspi more than makes up for any lost marketability from not drafting Rubio. Sure Spain is a big market but there’s other stars that they follow as well and the sport still comes second to football/soccer. Basketball still trails soccer in Israel but I don’t think it’s by as big a margin and we’re talking about the first Israeli-born player to ever play in the NBA so he’s not going to have to split the attention with other Israeli stars in the NBA.
Economists feel free to correct me if I’m overlooking something.
by jveezy on Jun 26, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
“WE DRAFTED OURSELVES A TWO GUARD! OH NO!
No we didn’t. We drafted ourselves a point guard who played shooting guard for ten games at Memphis and then played very well at the point guard position when he was moved back causing his team to play exceptionally better. "
Evans played SG throughout high school. He was only switched over to PG his Freshman year in college.
by CloudyEyes on Jun 26, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the correction.
I’m hearing both things. Probably irresponsible for me to pick the one I wanted to believe, but I guess I myself was just as guilty of anger as the people I was criticizing.
Despite this I do still believe we drafted a point guard. The skills aren’t quite there yet at a level that we would expect, but they’re developing, and if what you say is true, the stats aren’t all that bad for someone who is just learning to play the position. Most people are expecting John Salmons and I don’t think that’s fair quite yet, because he’s certainly young enough to change his game quite a bit.
by jveezy on Jun 26, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently scouts considered him both a SG and PG out of HS
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by Gallagher's Watermelons on Jun 27, 2009 1:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So at this stage we might be able to agree that he's some sort of hybrid.
But we really don’t know what his upside is in either direction. Players change positions all the time, and sometimes they’ve been playing a position for a long time because that’s what maybe their first few coaches told them to play and they’ve told all their subsequent coaches that they play that position so they end up there, and all of a sudden they try something new and realize that they have a lot of potential at that position. Maybe they weren’t really playing in their “natural” position after all.
I don’t know if this is going to happen with Evans, but judging by the results, playing PG for Memphis was certainly a success for him and he seems eager to learn more so I wouldn’t rule anything out at this point. We have a good coaching staff that will hopefully steer him in that direction.
by jveezy on Jun 27, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
B-
Just because that’s the grade I always got, no matter how damn well I did.
by DesertFox on Jun 26, 2009 11:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
A-
They grabbed 1 potential superstar, 3 potential starters, and a possible role player in the 2nd round. They drafted tough for the first time since…I don’t know, Brian Grant? The moves give them options to trade Martin or one of the young bigs for a veteran PG or big man. Most important, the team showed that they value winning sooner rather than later. The Kings did the best they possibly could with the pieces they had to work with.
by BarnesyardSportsManagement on Jun 27, 2009 8:41 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
A
“Geoff Petrie is smarter than all of us. He had a chance to see Rubio play many times in person and interview him and was the only executive that had a chance to give him a private workout. We all saw a ten minute video of the best plays of his entire career one after the other for wow effect and maybe watched the Olympics final” – jveezy
I think jveezy is right on. Youtube doesn’t show a true picture for evaluating talent. Geoff not only is a great talent evaluator, he has hired an assistant in Levian who is also a great talent evaluator. One more great move on Geoff’s part and shows he’s not afraid to mentor someone qualified to take over his position.
I do like Demar Derozan and hoped he would be overlooked and drop farther in the draft. I think he has mental toughness and a willingness to work harder than others to be great.
the nba requires mental toughness to be great. that’s the hardest trait to measure. It’s what Pierce has Peja doesn’t, Kobe has Tmac doesn’t, Shaq has Yao doesn’t.
by kingz2012champz on Jun 28, 2009 3:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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