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How Sergio Rodriguez Can Make it Work in Sacramento

The Kings acquired at least one player Thursday who is definitely a point guard. While Tyreke Evans will have to prove to the coaching staff, the fans, his teammates and himself that he can be an NBA point guard, Sergio Rodriguez is there. He earned the moniker "Spanish Chocolate" in his pre-NBA days due to his stylistic relationship with old King Jason Williams. He is a passing point guard, racking up a great number of assists in limited minutes through three seasons in Portland.

Of course, there are problems with Sergio. He's an awful shooter -- 43.5% from two, 30% from three. He commits a bunch of turnovers (more than three per 36 minutes), his defense has always seemed suspect, he might be a lead guard who can only be successful in an up-tempo style, and no one has ever called him a leader.

And those are the on-court problems. Sergio apparently has issues in the locker room, too.

Star-divide

Ben Golliver, an ace writer for Blazer's Edge, exploded in ecstacy last night when word of the Sergio trade leaked. I trust Ben's judgment on most basketball matters, and Ben has spent countless hours around the Blazers locker room and practice facility over the past year. He knows Blazers basketball, and so he knows Sergio's role there.

This is what Ben wrote on BE this morning:

The team's motto last fall was 15=16: a team dynamic of self-sacrifice for the greater good.  If there was one player that didn't fully buy into that motto and really embrace it, it was Sergio Rodriguez.  He had a fundamental disagreement with the coaching staff about his role and value to a team that ended up being unresolvable. Sergio, in my opinion, has serious concerns about his future in the NBA and acts in whatever way is necessary to give himself the best chance of sticking in the league.  And, again in my opinion, he did so, at times, at the expense of team chemistry: his moodiness over playing time got in the way of his quality of play and his meltdown at practice last fall was the team's biggest off-court distraction, minus Darius Miles.

You can tell the toxic nature of the team's relationship with Sergio over the last year not only by his repeated trade demands that were floated through the Spanish media but also by the shockingly miniscule value the team received when trading him away.  Sergio is a legit backup point guard making less than 2 million dollars next season. Despite his faults his combination of skills and salary makes him a commodity to some degree. Yet the Blazers were willing to pay a cash-strapped team (who are short at the one, by the way) to take Sergio off their hands for the luxury of moving up just seven spots in the second round in one of the weakest drafts in recent memory.

You always need to be wary when teams drop talented players like a bad habit. The Spurs gave away Beno Udrih because he didn't work hard enough and wasn't a tough player. Minnesota believed San Antonio's judgment and waived Beno immediately. Udrih came to Sacramento, played for his NBA career for one season, got his contract and ... completely gave up, at least in appearance. Perhaps the apathy of the team as a whole got to him, though I'd argue there's no defense for playing (and allegedly practicing) with such a lack of spark while guys like Bobby Jackson and Jason Thompson run through brick walls for a 17-win team.

Is that Sergio ... Beno II? It doesn't look that way. Sergio's problem in Portland, according to Ben, stemmed from a lack of minutes and a short leash. The so-called "looking over your shoulder" syndrome. Nate McMillan runs one of the most conservative offenses in the league. Yes, it's efficient as all Hell -- it's a phenomenal offense run by Brandon Roy and LaMarcus Aldridge. But it's conservative. It's slow. It's the opposite of chocolate.

Limited minutes in a slow, conservative offense. Do you think that will be a problem in Sacramento under Paul Westphal?

We'll see how the rotation shakes out. I assume the Kings will not target any guards in free agency (other than perhaps Bobby Jackson) or the trade market, given the commitments to Kevin Martin and Evans. (The Bee's Jason Jones had a story in today's paper which said Geoff Petrie will look to target a frontcourt player next week -- that could be Ike Diogu, though I imagine a back-up center could be targeted instead ... we'll see.) Will Evans start at the point from Day 1? Will Sergio start, with Evans the first guard off the bench? (Evans is only 19, after all. Spencer Hawes was the same age and didn't start for 1-1/2 seasons. Evans is more physically developed for his position, however.) Will Beno keep his starting position to start the season? That's a huge question -- it'll be difficult to trade Beno regardless, but burying him to Kenny Thomas Status adds just that much more difficulty.

Any which way, I imagine Sergio will get plenty of minutes to make his case, whether off the bench or as a starter. And I think we're all under the assumption Westphal will maintain or increase the Kings' tempo of recent years, which is already loads faster than how Portland plays. Those are two big boosts for Sergio. He needs to embrace the day and prove to the NBA he belongs.

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Good writeup sir

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by what_the_crap on Jun 26, 2009 11:44 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

On behalf of blazer fans

thanks for the write up & taking Sergio!

hee hee just kidding! I actually think Sergio is a great player, & if he ever gets a fair amount of leash from his coach in an uptempo game, he’ll explode.

by 5Blazers5 on Jun 27, 2009 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good assessment

I do think he’s more talented than his playing time suggested. He’s a creative passer and an exciting player. I don’t necessarily take it as a bad sign that he was chafing at the situation he was in. At the very least it shows he wants to make it in the NBA. Say what you will about Beno, but he was better than his role in San Antonio as well.

Just keep working on that jump shot and defense, Sergio.

by nbrans on Jun 26, 2009 11:48 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Rafer Alston has problems when he isn’t a starter. But as a starter he helped Orlando to the playoffs until SVG started jerking around his minutes for Jameer Nelson. There have been plenty of other example. Long term solution? Who know…but I think he can be a solid PG for this team as a part of the rebuilding process.

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by Exhibit G on Jun 26, 2009 11:49 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I have no idea what our rotation is gonna look like

Even when he doesn’t give a crap, Beno is good enough to be a backup. Are we gonna showcase him early to try to trade him? Would he be involved in a deal that finally moves K-9? And that’s just our guard situation. By my count, we have 5 guys at small forward and 1 center. This is gonna be an interesting season.

by Deleran on Jun 26, 2009 11:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I guarantee the front player

that they’ll be targeting will be Marcin Gortat.

Father of the "Natt this!" movement.

by Aykis16 on Jun 26, 2009 12:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Guarantee?

This team won’t be spending a lot of money this summer.

by Ziller on Jun 26, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

To me is more like

they shouldn’t spend a lot of money this summer

by eduardo_m7 on Jun 26, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gortat

should be available to someone, I don’t think the magic have the $$ anymore to re-sign him

I like the dude! (at the right price)

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by lietothegirls on Jun 26, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I could see the Thunder breaking out the $$ for him

I’d gladly take ZaZa if he’d be cheaper, although I like Marcin, but at the right price too

by LPKingsFan on Jun 26, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

no more full MLE guys. Beno ruined my life.

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by Robby1987 on Jun 26, 2009 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Not to mention

Shareef, Mikki Moore, Salmons and Garcia. The last two are at least arguable. I’m not sure any of those moves really made the team better, given where we are now.

by Carl on Jun 26, 2009 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Garcia

Extension was too early. They should let Cisco be a RFA first before signing to any midlevel deal.

Cisco is still too erratic at times to warrant such a committment so soon.

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by kingme18 on Jun 26, 2009 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

thats exactly my thinking. and thanks carl, for reminding me of reef and mikki. you just ruined my life some more

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by Robby1987 on Jun 26, 2009 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

True

but he could at least be useful in a trade. There are probably several contending teams that wouldn’t mind having his energy and attitude off the bench

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by vfettke on Jun 26, 2009 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Those aren't as bad as they seem

‘Reef came off the books due to retirement. Moore’s was only partially guaranteed and he was waived. Salmons was valuable in the Bulls trade. And Cisco, while way overpriced, actually does produce for us. Beno on the other hand… well, we know how that’s working out.

Although I do agree we need to quit the MLE stopgaps, it can be used effectively to sign certain players who are going to be productive and fill a big role for us. Gortat’s the type of guy who fits this bill I think, especially because of his production and age. Not saying I think we’ll get him, but that type of player is what the MLE should be used for. Hopefully Levien will have a little more say with this, because Petrie’s track record with signing FA’s isn’t all that fabulous.

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by vfettke on Jun 26, 2009 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

seriously doubt it

Let see…Be back up center in Orlando and quite possibly win a championship next year or be a back up center in Sacramento and be the farthest away from a champtionship. Somehow, I don’t see him being that dumb!

by Fredman on Jun 26, 2009 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's all about the money

Especially for a guy who hasn’t made much yet.

With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Tyreke Evans, STUD out of Memphis.

by otis29 on Jun 26, 2009 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

If Rodriguez really is concerned about his NBA career, he’ll make the most of his change of scenery. The pace of the Kings’ game should suit him better, and he’ll almost certainly get more minutes here. Since he only cost the Kings a few spots in the second round, it was well worth the risk.

by PurplePurple on Jun 26, 2009 12:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I didn't understand the trade for Sergio

I must have missed the 12.2 minutes he has averaged with Portland. So I went and read the fan-posts on him. As with all things there are two camps. One says much as the quote above. But there is also a camp that calls itself “Free Sergio”. They think that he is so talented that the team should have either let him play and run the team, or trade him to a place where he can play. And they didn’t think his whining was at all unjustified.

If he turns out to be a great distributor of the ball and is a weak scorer, that would be fine if he is playing on a team that had Kevin, Evans, JT and Hawes. They can all score. And he is a real point guard.

by Hubbell on Jun 26, 2009 12:17 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Apparently those aren't necessary in the Princeton

…we just need a guy to hit jumpers. Wait, our lottery pick can’t hit jumpers either?

by discocricket on Jun 26, 2009 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does Westphal run the Princeton Offense?

Maybe he does, but I feel some people just assume that’s the type of offense we’ll have next year.

by cbsf on Jun 26, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

No, he doesn't.

"Or, as Randy Jackson would say: Not feelin’ it, dawg."
-bench-blob- posting virgin.

by jjham15 on Jun 26, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't that what everyone says Rubio is?

A good distributor with major offensive questions.

by Citadel 29 on Jun 26, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Questions anyone?

Sure, we’ve got plenty, but let us not question Sergio’s TALENT. That’s right folks, we have acquired a very talented, pass-first point guard for a minimal cost. In addition we have stocked our backcourt, and perhaps lit a fire under Beno, who can be a very effective player when motivated – and playing for your job can be very motivating.

There is no downside to this, but we could very well have found the pass-first flashy point guard everyone wanted in rubio, at a steep, steep discount.

by Citadel 29 on Jun 26, 2009 12:20 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Beno isn't playing for a job

He’s playing for minutes.

Phil Jackson, after treatment for a kidney stone "When the anesthesiologist leaned over me, he said "We named your kidney stone Kobe because it's not passing."

by Ellimist on Jun 26, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Worst case

Beno would be decent in a 3 guard rotation, (albeit he would be overpaid) should he be starting (not for the Kings or with a team of similar talent) as failed to rise to the challenge well no

If you are talented people will put with your crap, Barry Bonds, Dennis Rodman, Ron Artest to name but a few, the more talented the more you can get away with. Here is hoping Sergio (like I we know each other) just needs a change of scenery and a chance to get some playing time.

In short the Kings need talent, last year that was lacking (so were a lot of things, Defense, guts, grit and wins). The more competition for playing time the better off the team will be.

Maybe Westphal may mix and match depending on who they are playing rather than a more conventional rotation, maybe Evans in time with his wing span can play some 3, you could have a 3 guard rotation of Sergio, Evans and Martin, or Beno even could get some run.

by Murf on Jun 26, 2009 12:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

VERSATILITY!!!!!!!!

WE ARE SO VERSITILE IN THE BACK COURT ITS A CRIME.SO LETS SIGN A LOW POST SCORER AND WE GOT HUSTLE AND SCRAPINESS AT EVERY POSITION!!!!!P.S QUIT HATING AND START CONGRATALATING biT…….SSSSSSSSSSS

by CHEVYSSKING on Jun 26, 2009 12:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

word

not elegant, but to the point.

by Citadel 29 on Jun 26, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Big ups for that

So many bitter Rubio fans projecting their disappointment with the Evans pick. Get over it, people. You have no evidence at all but a couple of youtube highlights to support any possibility that Rubio will be the next Pistol Pete Nash-stockt-aravich.

Evans is the truth and has a season of college ball to back it up.

by JETisKing on Jun 26, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

splitting hairs

One year of college ball is not exactly the biggest sample size, especially in the weak conference Memphis played in.

Rubio has been a pro since he was 14

One guy is 19 the other is 18, you really have to hope your players pan out and trust your scouting and what you see. Petries record in evaluating talent is good lets hope he is right

by Murf on Jun 26, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Word.

Petries record in evaluating talent is good lets hope he is right

Agreed. I actually think GP’s record is great. I guess I’ll play the fool and have complete faith in the Evans pick. Plus I’ll take Tyreke’s track record of leading a team of role-players to the Sweet 16 and scoring 30-plus points in that final game, over flashy youtube highlights and a lackluster Olympics run.

by JETisKing on Jun 26, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Guessing

Westphal doesn’t HAVE to run the full-on Princeton offense if his players are better suited to play another style.

by PurplePurple on Jun 26, 2009 12:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Why does everyone assume we are going to run the Princeton

Adelman is long gone, and none of these players have had a head coach – ie the one doing the real strategizing – who have had experience running the Princeton.

We ain’t running it.

by Citadel 29 on Jun 26, 2009 12:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I'm not sure where that assumption came from, either.

We didn’t hire Eddie Jordan, we hired Westphal. Does he have any history with the Princeton at all?

by cbsf on Jun 26, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Sergio has a better chance at point than Evans does....

If Sergio pans out and Evans turns out to be a stud at SG I wonder what our rotation will be. Martin is certainly tall enough to play 3 but he’ll get killed by stronger SFs.

It will be interesting to see how this works out. Evans shooting mechanics scream inconsistent but I obviously hope that he turns out to be a great player. If Evans works out I’m thinking that Martin is the one that is eventually moved.

With all the talk of Rubio not liking the situation in Minny (I’m guessing he’s upset about flynn and maybe wanting to be with a better organization), I wouldn’t mind if we dangled Martin to Minny since they are in obviously need of a SG.

Martin straight up for Rubio? (we’re probably giving up too much)
Martin and JT for Rubio and Love? (closer to even, and I’d probably do it )
Martin for Rubio and Love? (I’m sure we’d all give in to this one)

Any thoughts to bringing back Hedo now? If Evans is indeed what the organization wants at point we’d probably be better off with a point forward.

by ucla06 on Jun 26, 2009 12:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

about your first paragraph....

I agree about the matchups. K-mart can play 3 offensively but would have matchup problems with the likes of a Carmelo, Jeff Green, etc.

Will be interesting to see if Evans can guard a 3 at all. I know this would be asking a lot, but if he can play SG on offense, and guard a SF, then a lineup of Sergio/Evans/Martin/JT/Hawes would be awesome to watch.

by misterbrister on Jun 26, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just think of it this way, sergio is better than rubio RIGHT NOW.

Def. not in the long run. But sergio is only 22. He is used to playing in the nba.He is fast enough to get by his defender. he isn’t a great shooter, But he became much better this year and will continue to improve.
If wesphal trusts him , you guys will love him. Nate didn’t like him so he didn’t really get a chance.
But you guys should get a good finisher , and say hello to the alley oops.

I don’t think he will be your point guard of the future , but i think he will be much better than the consensus of his talent.

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by YikesItsCameron on Jun 26, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jason Thompson

will be happy for the alley-oops.

"Greed is the inventor of injustice as well as the current enforcer." - Julian Casablancas

by submison on Jun 26, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

True

However, his attitude will need to change and hopefully, our coach’s system will gel with Serg’s open style of play. Fingers crossed.

by JETisKing on Jun 26, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think his attitude is a little over blown.

He was kinda a big deal in spain, and then he cant get any playing time? Atheletes are proud , Im suprised he put up with it for as long as he did.

Officer:Why did you kill your husband ?
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by YikesItsCameron on Jun 29, 2009 1:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you meant that the chatter about Serge's attitude is overblown,

not Sergio’s attitude.

Ben’s a smart guy, but he seems to enjoy bashing Blazer point guards not named Jerryd Bayless. Did you see what he wrote about Steve Blake? I would take his opinion about Sergio with a few grains of salt.

by MiledAnimal on Jun 29, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes that is what i meant.

Officer:Why did you kill your husband ?
Crazy Woman: Because I love too much!

by YikesItsCameron on Jun 29, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

his attitude isnt a big problem

it just only seemed that way bc portland is full of choir boys. coach nate toyed with his confidence many times and any person in sergio’s shoes will complain. nate is an awesome coach, but he is like 0 for 5 in regards to developing a PG. hell we even traded away steve blake and then had to reacquire him in order for him to be our current solution at pg.

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by Philthyanimal on Jun 30, 2009 1:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What does the trade/reacquisition of Blake have to do

with Nate’s relationship with his point guards? That deal was necessary as part of our restructuring, not because Nate or KP didn’t like Blake. Everyone was happy to get him back.

by MiledAnimal on Jun 30, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it has to do with nate not being able to develop a pg

i was happy as well blake came back. when he played his first stint for portland he and jack were neck and neck, but jack was viewed to have more upside. when blake came back here was clearly the better player

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by Philthyanimal on Jun 30, 2009 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So you're saying Blake became better

because he had 1.5 years playing for someone other than Nate while poor Jarrett was stuck with him?

by MiledAnimal on Jun 30, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ya

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by Philthyanimal on Jul 2, 2009 1:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Evans

has a better chance to play the 3, and I think he will in the league if he doesn’t pan out as a PG. He has the vision, but the question will be if he is a willing passer and if he can stay with quicker pg’s in the league.

Martin is not being traded for Rubio, and/or love.

Phil Jackson, after treatment for a kidney stone "When the anesthesiologist leaned over me, he said "We named your kidney stone Kobe because it's not passing."

by Ellimist on Jun 26, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But if he does pan out at PG

…the league has another star on their hands. A talented 6’7" point guard will force opposing defenses to send help to smaller PG guarding Evans, which adds up to wide open dunks and layups for JT and Spence.

I believe he’s going to pan out @ PG.

by JETisKing on Jun 26, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Picking nits? Oh another rubio fan.

6’11" wingspan…6’4" without shoes…isn’t a youtube highlight god…but he’s our awesome pick regardless.

by JETisKing on Jun 26, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL. Okay, I'll take it easy, chief.

Lord knows someone 6’5" just can’t play PG in the NBA. It must be written somewhere. Oh well, let’s just doubt GP and hate on the pick some more. Damn that Petrie…Damn that Petrie…Damn that Petrie…

by JETisKing on Jun 26, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about a list?
Lord knows someone 6’5" just can’t play PG in the NBA. It must be written somewhere.

Of successful NBA point guards 6’5" or above? It’s certainly possible, but it ain’t likely.

by Carl on Jun 26, 2009 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Martin and JT for Rubio and Love?


I’m not so sure…

I wonder sometimes how Ricky Berry would've turned out

by luckthefakers on Jun 27, 2009 1:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude

People are being nice about it, but the all-caps posts are annoying, and, in cybercommunicating, extremely rude.

Stop it. Stop it right now.

The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.

by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 26, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No shit - ooops was that

TOO RUDE? SORRY ABOUT THAT!

no kidding though, I guarantee people will read your comment and reply if they have something to say.

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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
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by lietothegirls on Jun 26, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cavs will be super nice next year

CAVS have the talent but will Mike Brown be able to Jedi Mind trick all of their stars to form an awesome well-oiled machine that will run through a well-coached Magic with VC and a blood-thirsty Celtics team? Let’s not forget that annoying purple and yellow brick wall called Phil and the Fakers.

However, Hedo would be welcome any day, any time.

by JETisKing on Jun 26, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hedo is not going to the cavs.

They already have a small forward . … But i cant remember what his name is….

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by YikesItsCameron on Jun 29, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

chevys suck.

pony power!!!

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by Robby1987 on Jun 26, 2009 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

As someone who watched sergio a ton the last couple seasons

Things I like:
He’s a borderline virtuoso passer.
He’s fast, with good handle, and has balls, not afraid to shoot/score when the team desperately needs it most (sunk clutch FTs with no fear last season).
Like Rondo, teams know he’s a sucky shooter, which actually helps open up driving and passing lanes that aren’t there for guys who defenders feel they they have to stay home on.
His quick hands and intuition for the ball make him quite competent in stealing the ball.
He’s still young and showed improvement last season (could be skewed by his good chemistry with old pal rudy)

Things I dislike:
He’s too slight to defend, well, anyone, let alone the pick and roll.
He’s streaky, some games he’s amazing, other games, he makes risky passes that result in turnovers.
He is not athletically gifted.
Although he’s creative, he is not a gifted scorer and will miss lay ins too frequently.

Ben’s hyperbole is a little much, but it is what it is.

MillsFanBoy

by appel82 on Jun 26, 2009 12:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Interesting

I would rather the Kings have drafted Rubio, but the description you posted might well be Rubio’s future.

by Carl on Jun 26, 2009 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Something I wrote some time ago for BlazersEdge

Sergio was a raising star in Spain.
He came to the Blazers à la Rudy, knowing he’d make at least twice as much staying in Europe, but he wanted to come because of the challenge.
19 year old playing with the pros in Spain: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9vmcTN4Lc4

His style of play relies a lot on confidence. If he feels he can, he just takes over the game, he forces his rythm into everyone, which his teammates are used to, and his opponent usually aren’t. This makes him (if used well) an amazing PG off the bench, as he’s capable of turning a game upside down changing the flow of the game.
See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPFEUA1pGeI

He knows how to play big games. He forced Spain into the World Championship’s final back in 2006. Seehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyxdHjrCl2c

When he came to Portland he soon became a fan favorite, even when he barely played (he had the likes of Dan Dickau or Juan Dixon over him in the rotation). 10 easy baskets were not enough for Nate at the expense of 2 TO.

He turned 20 the year he came to Portland. A young World Champion with great attitude who passed on the big money to come to the other side of the world to play with the best.

His teammates loved him, the fans loved him, but his coach was busy talking to the press about everything he didn’t like about him. Two different point guards, two opposite ways of understanding the game, and there he was Sergio, he knew he had to please his coach, so he kept practicing and trying his best to adapt his game to please his coach and have a chance, but what did he found? His minutes decreased by 1/3 on his second season.

And then during his 3rd season, after spending all the summer practicing to improve his weak spots, his coach benches him.

He has made all kind of sacrifices to please Nate, he’s playing the opposite of his style, losing money and being away of his family and girlfriend just to find disrespect.

He’s just 22, but the way I see it, he’s wasted 3 very valuable years of his carreer trying to please someone who can’t appreciate his gifts.

I think he still has it in him, he’s putted all his effort on the Blazers, and he deserves what’s best for him.

He can still do things like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qKGWhHADlE#t=3m59s

Either KP did a mistake drafting him or Nate as a coach, and I’d say it’s the last one.

I’d love KP to do something for him, he deserves it, and now it’s the moment to do it. It’s very hard for a player getting signed as a FA after 4 seasons of barely playing, just give him a chance, here or anywhere else, the kid deserves it, he’s served well the Blazers, and he deserves a chance.

Free Sergio

Nobody expects a Spanish Acquisition!

by DaniBCN on Jun 26, 2009 12:41 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

I agree with this sentiment, and all it's +/- implications...
he’s capable of turning a game upside down changing the flow of the game.

MillsFanBoy

by appel82 on Jun 26, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

kinda like watching Rubio highlights

Lower their expectations and rise to met them

by left hand on Jun 26, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Except

that Portland is helping to pay his salary and he cost us 7 slots in the 2nd round.

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by section214 on Jun 26, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

mm-hmm.

Didn’t pick that up in the highlights. Thought it was implied.

Lower their expectations and rise to met them

by left hand on Jun 26, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's never implied with me

Y-o-u h-a-v-e t-o s-p-e-l-l i-t o-u-t f-o-r m-e.

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by section214 on Jun 26, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

T-h-a-n-k-s f-o-r t-h-e t-i-p,

f-r-i-e-n-d.

Lower their expectations and rise to met them

by left hand on Jun 26, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is that you?

I wonder sometimes how Ricky Berry would've turned out

by luckthefakers on Jun 27, 2009 1:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That guys is dead now :(

Officer:Why did you kill your husband ?
Crazy Woman: Because I love too much!

by YikesItsCameron on Jun 29, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Regarding their passing skills yes, regarding drive-and-dish plays and defense there are big differences

Also not sure if Sergio reads the game and knows the plays that much better than (on a high level already) the average NBA point guard. But essentially as a second round pick for you now he should be a very good value. Maybe he can make the next step while on the Kings. I hope it for him. Otherwise he probably has better perspectives back home in Spain once his contract is up in 2010.

by Norsktroll on Jun 26, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Segio has the same vision and passing ability

but thats it. He does not have the basketball IQ, which is what makes Rubio such a great prospect. Look at Segio now, and 3 years ago. Has he become a smarter player? He at least has become a respectable shooter last year.

If you watch his videos, although he has some great, flashy passes, it doesn’t leave his teammate with an easy bucket most of the time. He does a flashy pass, but it doesn’t always put his teammate in the pest position to score. Thats what a good PG does.

All that aside, I’m glad he is here. It helps that we got him for nothing.

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by Ellimist on Jun 26, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I recall J-Will having flashy passes...

and we didn’t get out of the first round.

However, I do see larger, athletic and talented guards leading their respective NBA teams out of the first and second round of the playoffs.

Interesting to see the super flashy Chris Paul get ran over by the larger and equally talented Mr. Billups.

So glad Evans was the pick.

by JETisKing on Jun 26, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually we did get out of the first round.

Circa 2000-2001, we beat the Phoenix Suns and played the Lakers in the second round.

by kingsfan300 on Jun 26, 2009 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

unfair comparison btw Paul and Billups

the best player on Paul’s team is Paul
the best player on Billups team in Carmelo

by ucla06 on Jun 26, 2009 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

I think he’ll be a great PG in Scramento. Maybe he’ll start until Evans proves he deserves that position, then Rodríguez will back him up getting to the paint and throwing passes to Hawes or JT for the easy slam dunk, or an in-out pass to Martin/García/Nocioni for the killing three.

by Kreuz on Jun 26, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Really can't see him starting.

But I guess training camp will sort that out. The beauty of it is that no one can come in thinking he’s the starter. It should be a true battle. Maybe even Beno will act interested.

Actually, I gotta stick with my (ample) gut feeling that Beno will do much better in a specific system, especially a more free-flowing one. That would be perfect, because then he or Sergio could be useful trade material.

Lower their expectations and rise to met them

by left hand on Jun 26, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Among my most favorite

forms of carnage! How many blessing if we only pay attention, yes?

Lower their expectations and rise to met them

by left hand on Jun 26, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, I gotta stick with my (ample) gut feeling that Beno will do much better in a specific system, especially a more free-flowing one.

Not going to happen. Beno’s problem is talent, not interest.

by Carl on Jun 26, 2009 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I totally agree with you.

I think Sergio starts until Evans gets his NBA legs under him. Unless Beno decides to play like pre-contract Beno, which changes the dynamic entirely. Was Beno hurt all last year? Was there a motivational problem or personal clash that the inept coaching staff didn’t deal with? Or is the Beno of last season who he is now? If Beno isn’t motivated by all the Kings moves to improve the Point, then he will be at the end of the bench with K9. If he does come into camp motivated, then Beno and Sergio can fight it out for the starting position, and they can work Evans in slowly until he is used to the speed of the NBA game. I really bashed Beno last year for his poor play, but could never figure out how he played out of his mind before the big contract, then played mindlessly after. A motivated Beno would really help the Kings. I think when Evans comes on an eventually takes over the point, and he will, we will have a pretty good back court. Petrie is the best judge of young draft talent out there IMHO. Petrie scouted Evans as a Point Guard. He believes the Kid can be our Point Guard of the future, or I believe he would have chosen someone else. So a back court rotation of

Pointguard_____ Sergio — Evans — Beno

2 Guard_______ Martin — Garcia — ???

Doesn’t look too bad. If Bobby comes back and/or Front Office wants him back, that kinda causes a log jam at the point. Not sure what Bobby or the team is planning to do in that situation. Is Bobby planning on retirement? Pretty sure McCantz isn’t coming back. Guess this will all work itself out in camp.

Another year, another chance to hope for the team !!

by FaStRmAn on Jun 26, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Was pre-contract Beno really that different than post-contract Beno?

They looked like the same guy to me. Only the expectations changed.

by nbrans on Jun 26, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Pre-contract Beno played with heart

Post-contract Beno hung his head low and pouted when he got b*tched out by Natt every time he turned the ball over.

Post-contract Beno couldn’t even get the ball over the half-court line at times. Pre-Beno could, and would drive into the lane, do his spin-thingy and score.

by JETisKing on Jun 26, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea, that's it.

Pre contract Beno played with heart. Post contract Beno played like crap.

Another year, another chance to hope for the team !!

by FaStRmAn on Jun 26, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

It’s simple: Beno isn’t any good.

by Carl on Jun 26, 2009 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blazer Fan Here

I love Sergio when he got to Portland. I thought he was a great point guard for a fast pace offense the Trailblazers WERE TRYING TO IMPLEMENT. Alas, that face pacing offense never materialized. For some reason or another, Nate failed. Perhaps, Brandon Roy was the reason. His style is slow and deliberate.

So Sergio never got the chance to excel at his game. In a fast pace game, his positives amplify and negatives minimize. I think he will excel with Paul Westphal running the offense, provided that he will play enough minutes.

by Balian on Jun 26, 2009 1:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

i am ecstatic that GP made this trade

our back court is gonna be versitile and mobile
he seems to me to be a cross between jason williams and beno
which i like

by 31_FLAVAS on Jun 26, 2009 1:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

thats like

a cross between a motorcycle and a scooter.

You know, a vespa

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by Ellimist on Jun 26, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rubio thought

The #5 slot means less money to make the buyout affordable, they drafted Flynn and like him, whats to stop him saying guess what I’ll stay in Spain for a year or two (can he do this, I don’t know the specifics of his deal). He develops his game so in a year or two he comes the NBA and depending on the development of Flynn and Rubio the T-Wolves have a great bargining chip. Your thoughts

by Murf on Jun 26, 2009 1:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think

you may have posted this in the wrong thread.

by babasin on Jun 26, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What I'm worried about

someone will get traded next season, probably Nocioni, García, Udrih or even Martin.

so I’m worried because Martin is not as untouchable as it was before, Udrih is not a good PG anymore and he is less likely to move because of his contract; García hits the clutch three, so I don’t want him to go, he’s like our Derek Fisher and Nocioni I think is a great player and will be great to stay, but if he doesnt want to, he’ll be traded.

So much questions about the future can get you a headache.

by Kreuz on Jun 26, 2009 1:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I do think it will be interesting to see how Beno does this season under Paul Westphal. Beno obviously has a delictate personality (or he might be a douche), but there is not denying that he doesn’t have talent. He is a good shooter of the dribble, can finish at the rim, and seems athletic enough to be a good defender if he tried. Who knows what kind of chemistry issues there were with Reggie Theus being kind of intense, and Kenny Natt being kind of clueless, maybe Westphal will be a breath of fresh air and invigorate Beno. He does seem to be best suited to the first gaurd of the bench, playing both the one and two, but I have to think that having Martin, Udrih, Evans, Garcia, and Spanish Chocolate gives us a lot of options and looks we could throw at teams, and let Evans get some experience without the pressure of a lot of minutes and responsibility.

by MichaelMack on Jun 26, 2009 1:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ziller, you say that Sergio is a poor shooter, but he had improved somewhat this year. He played a large, large portion of his minutes at the end of the first and third quarters, so he ended up attempting a large number of heaves. Taking those out, he was actually a 36% three point shooter. Not good, but not horrible.

He’ll be a decent role player in a fast-paced system. Good pickup by Sactown.

by Cablinasian on Jun 26, 2009 1:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

yes, his shot is incredibly flat. It’s just a little more effective than the stats say.

hopefully Rondo NEVER gets a jumper. That would be too terrible to behold.

by Cablinasian on Jun 26, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sergio is still a terrible shooter

The stats don’t tell you the type of shots he took. Almost all of them were open, stand sill, feet set 3 pointers. Sergio shot a bad percentage and is not a good shooter no matter how you parse the stats.

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by blzrfan on Jun 26, 2009 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would like to direct you all to Free Sergio. (not my site).

by Cablinasian on Jun 26, 2009 1:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Notice the footer at the bottom:

FreeSergio.com exists exclusively to build the morale of the underground army fighting for the freedom of Sergio Rodriguez.

by Cablinasian on Jun 26, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

block quote fail.

by Cablinasian on Jun 26, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess they'll need a new website now that he has been freed?

Maybe its a never ending battle, Che Sergio.

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by moproblemz on Jun 26, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Zill, Weak Dig on Tyreke

While Tyreke Evans will have to prove to the coaching staff, the fans, his teammates and himself that he can be an NBA point guard, Sergio Rodriguez is there.

Come on, man, would you have written that if the Kings picked Rubio? I respectfully disagree with this piece. All rookies have to prove they can play their designated position when coming into the league. That sounds like your still pouting over the fact Geoff chose Evans over La Espana Hype.

As far as I’m concerned, Sergio needs to prove he can play effectively at the one as well. There’s nothing from his tenure at Portland that convinces me to put him ahead of Beno or Tyreke at the start of next season.

Welcome to Sactown, Tyreke!!!

by JETisKing on Jun 26, 2009 3:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Evans has to prove to me he's an NBA point guard

And I like the guy.

I think Ziller was right to point out that this is an open question. Even setting aside where he played at Memphis, how many 6’5" point guards are there in the NBA at the moment? Stuckey (which has been a mixed bag) and…

by nbrans on Jun 26, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

there are a lot of star 6’4’’ to 6’6’’ guys who handle some playmaking duties (Kobe, Wade, Roy), but they aren’t really point guards.

by Cablinasian on Jun 26, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

Even if they aren’t point guards, would it be so wrong if Evans starts as a talented combo-guard that shares the duties with K-Mart in the backcourt? Today’s game is so crazy with multi-faceted players that I welcome any athlete with a diverse set of skills at 6’7".

by JETisKing on Jun 26, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Penny Hardway was a PG

He was 6’7’’, he started off as a SG (his position in college), and even played SF during his time in Orlando.

by NorCal BillsFan on Jun 26, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unfortunately he continuously injured his vagina.

Ex-King Derrick Martin told me a story about Penny a long time ago. When he played in Phoenix, Penny showed up at the arena for a game and realized that he had forgotten his basketball shoes. He had to miss a NBA game because he refused to wear a different pair of shoes and couldn’t get home and then back in time for the game. Martin told me that Penny Hardaway was the entire reason that Danny Ainge quit coaching NBA basketball 20 games into the 99-00 season.

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by jjham15 on Jun 26, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Props for identifying the vagina

Another year, another chance to hope for the team !!

by FaStRmAn on Jun 26, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My question was...

would that open question have been posted if Rubio had been picked. That’s all. I highly doubt it since we all know how much of a Rubio fan Zill is.

I remember a guard named Magic who was 6’9". The Big O was 6’5" and J-Kidd is 6’4". If Evans shows he has the handle and feel for the 1, he’ll be unstoppable at 6’7". He’s more of a solid NBA point guard prospect than Rubio is.

I guess we’ll see around mid-season. Just remember, Rubio has Big Al to throw to in the post where he can create his own shot. We’ll see how our bigs will develop next season and how much room they give Tyreke to operate and do his thing.

I really don’t think Sergio is “there” yet.

by JETisKing on Jun 26, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rubio has different question marks

In the mass hysteria that would have greeted a Rubio pick I’m sure Ziller would have sought fit to point out that Rubio would need to prove that he has the athleticism and scoring ability to make it in the NBA.

But Rubio is obviously a point guard.

by nbrans on Jun 26, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

How is Evans not obviously a PG?

It’s well documented that Evans took of the 1-duties at Memphis and the team became more effective offensively. It takes a talented player with a feel for the PG position to command the dribble drive motion offense that Cal uses.

Oh well. I’m sold on Evans. We can agree to disagree but if Evans can hold his own at the 1 – that will be a serious matchup problem for opposing defenses. Also, if he can guard the opposing team’s more athletic/talented 1 through 3, I don’t see how that’s a bad thing. Evans is a unique talent with his size and athleticism.

by JETisKing on Jun 26, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not saying he can't be a PG

I’m just saying that it’s a question mark whether it’s possible or viable or his natural position long term. Even the FO said they’d see how it goes and that he’s a multi-positional player.

I definitely hope that he can be a PG, but I think everyone is going to wait and see how that goes.

by nbrans on Jun 26, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Picking Nits

Don’t forget that you started with Ziller’s comment about him needing to prove “that he can be an NBA point guard”.

Plenty of guys succeed at the college level as a PG but it doesn’t always carry over.

I hope that everything you’re saying is true, but you seem just as biased as the Rubio people you rail on.

by smgmatt on Jun 26, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

he can make himself into a PG...

but college is not the NBA. Evan averages 3.9 assists as and 3.6 turnovers a game as a point guard. That’s a terrible ratio for any PG. Terrible for a SG as well.

I’m fine with this guy as a shooting guard is he learns how to shoot but I don’t want him running the show.

by ucla06 on Jun 26, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

On the contrary

I agree that Evans college PG numbers were terrible. Doesn’t matter. I want him out there to find out whether he can be a point guard. Hell, give him two years as the starter. He can’t be worse than Beno and a 17 win team has absolutely nothing to loose.

by Carl on Jun 26, 2009 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ummm

sounds like the “cisco as point guard” experiment. impatience with horribleness begins quickly, two years he wont have.

by Citadel 29 on Jun 26, 2009 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Evans wasn't he the Guy driving the car in a get away

Posted on Thu, Dec. 27, 2007

Evans was at scene of fatal shooting

The high school basketball star has not been charged in the Nov. 25 incident, but he was there.

By Kathleen Brady Shea
Inquirer Staff Writer

High school basketball superstar Tyreke Evans drove a sport utility vehicle away from the scene after a passenger allegedly shot and killed a man last month, according to a Chester Township police affidavit that was released last week.

"Knowledge will get you from A to B. Creativity will get you anywhere." Einstein

by Garden of ODEN on Jun 27, 2009 5:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

WHAT?

Geez, we hadn’t heard about that! Can we undraft the guy???

With the 4th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Sacramento Kings select Tyreke Evans, STUD out of Memphis.

by otis29 on Jun 27, 2009 5:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you

The Rubio v. Evans hysteria is at a fevered pitch.

Pro-Evans Camp:

  • Disappointment towards not getting Rubio isn’t always a slight on Evans.
  • Questions about how Evans will fit on the Kings’ roster is also probably not a slight on Evans.
  • Evans should be around long enough to see what he can do, you don’t need to win everyone over immediately. Give it time, and ease up a little on the throttle.

Pro-Rubio Camp:

  • If Petrie wanted him, he was there for the taking.
  • Rubio would have been a higher-profile pick than Evans, which points heavily towards Petrie making the call without interference.
  • Don’t forget to re-read Section’s Five Stages of a Geoff Petrie Draft Pick and breathe. Everything will be just fine.

Glad we cleared that up, can we move on now?

by smgmatt on Jun 26, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Nice.

I think 75% of the folks on here are at “BARGAINING.”

Defending Evans as a more than solid pick shouldn’t be perceived as railing on anybody. Ease up on the condescension.

by JETisKing on Jun 26, 2009 3:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

No use baggin on Evans now!

He is a Member of YOURRRR SACTAMENTOOOO KINGSSSSSS!!!

Besides, the Rubio crowd will fade once they see Evans playing. I think we will all be pleasantly surprised by Mr. Evans’s talent. Since playing defense at the point guard position is unheard of on this team, seeing somebody playing in your face defense AND scoring at the other end will be a culture shock that will spin many heads.

Another year, another chance to hope for the team !!

by FaStRmAn on Jun 26, 2009 4:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Unless we see Rubio play for another team and he is better than Evans : )

"Or, as Randy Jackson would say: Not feelin’ it, dawg."
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by jjham15 on Jun 26, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is if Rubio decides to lose money and not stay in Europe

He may not feel like competing for a starting PG job with Mr. Flynn.

:)

by JETisKing on Jun 26, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like he'll be a Knickerbocker.

"Or, as Randy Jackson would say: Not feelin’ it, dawg."
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by jjham15 on Jun 26, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's hope so...

He and Gallinari can talk about the good ol’ days in Europe or something on the bench. I’m sure he’ll flourish in New York. But so do most players when they play in D’Antoni’s system.

by JETisKing on Jun 26, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

EXACTLY

Well said, sir. Next season will be a pleasure to watch.

I can’t wait to hear the phrase “Evans to Thompson” on a nightly basis. “Evans kicks it out to ’Cisco for the THREEEE” sounds just as good. Or how about…

by JETisKing on Jun 26, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Since playing defense at the point guard position is unheard of on this team

Good point. There hasn’t been a good defensive starting point guard on this team in at least 10 years, except for the few games Bobby Jackson started.

by Carl on Jun 26, 2009 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Except for one year of Anthony Johnson in '98

I’d say it’s more like 20 years without a good defensive starting point guard.

by nbrans on Jun 26, 2009 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kenny Smith didn't guard anybody?

Shocking.

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by pookeyguru on Jun 26, 2009 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great stuff TZ

Well said.

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Jun 26, 2009 4:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Another Blazer fan chiming in

I think the Sergio move was pretty great for both Portland and Sac. The Kings are obviously in rebuilding mode, and need help at many positions – Maybe Tyreke will be the PG of the future for you, but I think that with Sergio you’re getting at least a serviceable guy who (along with Beno) are fully capable of running the point until you figure out what you’ve got with Evans.

And there is an outside chance that Sergio will flourish in a new system. I think the “2 camps” in Portland are really just looking at flipsides of the same coin. Sergio was basically a bust for us. You can blame Coach Nate for keeping too tight a rein on him, or you can blame Sergio for poor work ethic, whining too much, and failing to adapt to the system. Personally I think it was more of the latter – at his BEST, Sergio is simply not the caliber of player you change your team identity just to suit his style.

I don’t think we expected the world out of Sergio – look at our starter! Blake is solid, but far from outstanding – yet he’s beloved by the coach, teammates, and fans. He worked on his outside shot so he could compliment Roy, and Blake had a career year from 3-point-land.

I guess I’m saying I wish Sergio the best. He’s probably grown up a lot through the process, and hopefully he’ll be valuable to the Kings.

Btw, Rip City is and always has been my team, but I lived near Sac and followed the Kings for years. I got nothing but well wishes for y’all!

by the_mad_nader on Jun 26, 2009 10:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You guys got a GREAT deal

I think KP moved Sergio specifically to you guys, for not much at all, because it could be a good situation for Sergio. It’s pretty much the only team in the NBA he has a shot to start at PG for.

I think he is a backup PG now, and likely forever. THAT IS STILL GOOD THOUGH. He is a pace changer who can really get lady momentum on your side. I never minded his turnovers, because they come from trying to get something going, and not from being lazy or careless. He is an amazing passer.

THE PROBLEMS— There are quite a few.

The biggest one to me is that he is bad on the pick and roll and has never gotten the hang of how to use a pick. It’s almost as if he is still used to the moving pick they allow in Europe. The big sets the pick, and Sergio always backs up to get a running start, and then the big is in the wrong place and the defender has moved and the pick is either totally ineffective or the big gets called for a moving pick (it happened much more than it should). Sergio often likes to move before the pick is set also, getting a cheap foul on the big.

His rookie year, he would connect with Jamall Magloirable for some easy baskets on the pick and roll. Since then, he doesn’t pass to the big rolling much and usually opts for the kick out for a mid-range jumper or a 3 point shot. That always bugged me too. His passes were always “good”, but not to the person we’d rather it go to. They were the more creative pass though…

He is a really bad shooter after a few years of work. His shot is really flat and while his percentage went up you can still tell just by watching him shoot that it is really off. He has reportedly worked very hard on improving it, but the results haven’t kicked in yet. I do trust he is working on it though, and if a dude works on his shot it should eventually improve. He’ll never likely be a good shooter though.

He isn’t athletic enough to be a good defender. He has a small frame that doesn’t do well against the few big PGs there are left (even though he has nice height), and he isn’t quick enough for the numerous small quick PGs of today. He also doesn’t use his body to impede the forward progress of the enemy guards. He can get totally lost in the defensive scheme and lose his man.

Like his shooting, he has made improvements on defense, but started from such a bad level that the improvement still isn’t enough. And unlike his shooting, I don’t expect it to improve much more than knowing where he should be, and when. Enemy PGs will target him as an easy mark and try to exploit his defensive shortcomings.

Playing behind Blake, I thought he got plenty of minutes. He is a backup; playing 12+ minutes a night is what backups play, even under a relatively mediocre PG like Blake. Sacramento is a fresh start and the PG spot is up for grabs, so I hope he capitalizes on the situation. I think the Spanish media helps him feel entitled for more minutes, and that he was getting screwed by Coach Nate. Spanish publications such as La Marca are EXTREMELY nationalistic and prone to blaming everyone else except for the player for why that player isn’t doing very well. Be prepared for it when/if Sergio struggles or is unhappy with playing behind a rookie that you guys need to develop.

He’s also a much bigger deal where he is from (the Canary Islands, off the coast of Africa), so all offseason he gets adulation and attention and told how great he is and that he is getting screwed, and then he comes to the NBA each year and plays back up minutes. For a young dude, that has to be tough.

I consider myself in the middle ground of the Sergio debate (though perhaps some of his biggest supporters may disagree). Unlike some, I think he is definitely a NBA point guard. He just isn’t good enough to warrant the CONSTANT attention and debate he spurred, and I think 97% of the debate stems from him being an exotique, a white PG, a Spaniard, and that he essentially plays a streetball freestyle game that one does not usually associate with Euros.

He inspires fervent devotion in his fans, which I admire. In response to this fervent devotion, others compensate the other way and hate him. I think neither emotion is accurate.

If we approach Sergio as a likely career backup with notable flaws but also some INCREDIBLE skills, we can get a more realistic vision of what sort of player he is.

To have a backup as talented as he is at creating shots for others, and the fan pleasing style he plays, and as young and already with 3 years of NBA experience with potential left to mine, getting him for a 2nd round pick PLUS not having to pay his salary is an amazing deal for you guys.

I hope he gets the shot he is looking for.

And if he is again a backup, I hope he accepts it.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jun 27, 2009 4:08 AM PDT reply actions   2 recs

The thing I love the most out of this trade

Is the amount of mouths Sergio is going to shut with his game

He’s been forced to play to his weaknesses, and even then he hasn’t done a bad job. Playing to his strengths he can be a borderline allstar this season.

Nobody expects a Spanish Acquisition!

by DaniBCN on Jun 27, 2009 6:01 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Hopefully

some mouths will be shut. However, I think it will be the SergioFanboys. Sergio is a great passer, no doubt, but borderline all star? You’re out of your mind and blinded by european bias.

What if Steve Nash couldn’t shoot, lost some BBIQ, and wasn’t as good on the pick and roll? He’d be like Sergio, great passer, no shot, no defense.

Sergio has the ball on a string and can dribble through traffic like a star. However, he can’t shoot very well, doesn’t finish well, can’t defend a paper sack, and doesn’t get to the line.

I wish Sergio well, but his european fans can be quite annoying, SOOOOOOOO much bias.

Yeah, hate on Nate Macmillan for winning 54 games with such a young team and not reorganizing the team to fit a flawed, one dimensional roleplayer…

The ball will always be in Brandon Roy’s hands the majority of the time. Sergio is useless off-ball.

Look, there is a large contingent of Euro-loons who think Rudy Fernandez is a better player than Brandon (Freaking) Roy! They are biased and delusional, don’t listen to their descriptions of Sergio.

Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash

by HurraKane212 on Jun 30, 2009 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"You’re out of your mind and blinded by european bias."

“european fans can be quite annoying, SOOOOOOOO much bias.”

You make some valid points, HurraKane, but those comments would have got you suspended on Blazers Edge.

by MiledAnimal on Jun 30, 2009 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

BE has been a bit trigger happy

with that suspension policy IMO

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lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash

by HurraKane212 on Jun 30, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

HIS euro fans

not all Euro fans.
I don’t think those comments are suspension worthy, even at BE.

However you’ve got to admit there is a contingent of absolutely delusional Euro fans who think we should draft all euros and think every euro is the next Jordan, especially if they are from the fan’s home country.

The olympics and the singing of the anthem are the only two times nationalism and basketball should mix.

Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash

by HurraKane212 on Jun 30, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think that the same could be said of Duke fans

or Tar Heel fans.

Or Bruins fans…

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by section214 on Jun 30, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was very well put KP I mean Mortimer

Seriously who has the time to write the quality and length of comments if they aren’t associated with the team.

Sergio is not a trouble maker as was implied in the post,

apparently he had lockerroom problems.
He wanted to have more of an opportunity. He didn’t feel that Portland was the right place for that and KP moved him to a team he could get an opportunity to show what he is capable of.

"Knowledge will get you from A to B. Creativity will get you anywhere." Einstein

by Garden of ODEN on Jun 27, 2009 6:02 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't think he was likely a big trouble maker either

I don’t doubt he complained to his friends and to his management, but I doubt it affected our play on the court. He isn’t a cancer or anything silly like that; he just wanted more minutes.

The Blazers didn’t have more minutes for him. So, he was unhappy. That is normal and I think he SHOULD be unhappy, if he feels like he deserves more.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jun 27, 2009 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't take Golliver's opinion for the Gospel

There are no locker room issues regarding Sergio. Really.

Ben seems to have long had an axe to grind on the subject, and he no doubt feels that Sergio has unfairly taken minutes away from his man Bayless.

While I’m on the subject of Blazers Edge people who are not Sergio fans, I would put Mortimer in that category, although he seems to want to be seen as Sergio supporter. Don’t know why. As one little example, he states above, “And if he is again a backup, I hope he accepts it.” This is disingenuous. There is no evidence that Sergio ever thought he should start on the Blazers. He merely wanted a predicatable rotation role, and a little show of confidence from the coach, as would be demonstrated by not yanking him out of the game at the first miscue. That is what McMillan did habitually with Sergio. His treatment of other players was noticeably more tolerant.

I hope you guys enjoy having Sergio on your team. I already miss him.

"Just kidding"

by CatMan2 on Jun 27, 2009 6:00 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Sergio wanted more minutes

He got 12+ a game. That is plenty for a backup, which is what he is, and anything more cuts into Blake/Roy/Rudy’s time. That is silly to think he deserves minutes over them.

I do not like Sergio’s overall game, but I do not hate him. That is the problem with many Sergio supporters— you can’t criticize him without being seen as anti-Sergio. He just isn’t very good, which is the problem I have with the whole debate.

All this arguing and bickering over how someone should criticize a player, for a guy who will likely be a career backup. It’s silly.

Sergio was not yanked for every miscue, that is an exagerration always thrown out. He played his 12 minutes a game and then the starting PG came back in. That was his role. He didn’t like that role, and that is fine.

My stance on Sergio is just more nuanced than “hate” or “love”. He’s a guy with major flaws that will likely prevent him from being a starter. He will likely play around 12+ minutes a game on every single team in the league. I don’t think he views himself as that sort of player and he wants more. I do not blame him for that, but I don’t think he is correct.

When/if he is back to playing 12+ minutes a game, I hope he comes to terms with it and doesn’t blame everyone else for holding him back. Although I figure it’s mostly his most ardent supporters who blame everyone else for Sergio not being as good as they hoped.

It’s not Nate’s fault that we have 3 better guards than Sergio, and that Sergio can’t shoot or play defense or even run an offense like a pure PG should. He got set minutes almost every game and played those set minutes. It was his role.

Mortimer

PS: I could see Ben making more of Sergio’s complaints than he probably should, but you also know that you, Catman2, are not in the locker room. Ben is. He went to every home game, saw the talks between Sergio and Nate and KP, and was around the team more than anyone on Blazers Edge. Even if he was overstating it (which I can’t say for sure), he was there, and we were not.

PPS: And even if I do not think a player is as good as most of his supporters do, I still wish Sergio the very best and I hope he does well in Sacramento. I am glad KP sent him to a place where the PG situation is in serious flux, because no other team would allow Sergio the chance to play more than 12+ minutes a night.

I do support Sergio, the player and the person, but his game is not worth the constant debate. I hope a new beginning stirs something within him and he does well in Sacramento. Getting him for a 2nd round pick and not having to pay his salary is a GREAT deal for someone who is, at least, a backup.

I find nothing disingenous with what I said, and I think it is another example of some fans being too sensitive about this Sergio character. He stirs a devotion that I admire.

by Mortimer on Jun 27, 2009 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hey, Mortimer, whatcha doin in Sacramento?

Look, if you are not employed as an advertising copywriter or a CIA psych-ops specialist, you’re wasting your talent. It’s difficult to pin you down on anything because you write so voluminously and subtly. I probably admire your writing talent at least as much as you admire anything about Sergio

To continue what to some observers may appear to be the splitting of hairs, you did in fact just say, “And if he is again a backup, I hope he accepts it.” Among the simple tribesmen of my village, such an utterance might strongly suggest that Sergio has failed to accept not being the starter. Now, unless you are willing to flatly deny that that is what you meant, I challenge you to find any supporting documentation.

Your present comment contains another beauty: “When/if he is back to playing 12+ minutes a game, I hope he comes to terms with it and doesn’t blame everyone else for holding him back.” Although you add another sentence that could be seen as softening the message here, it’s like having a witness blurt out something damaging but subsequently stricken from the record in a trial (on TV) — the jury has already heard something they will not be able to entirely ignore despite the judge’s instructions. Sergio has never stated that anyone was holding him back. He has gone on record as saying that his playing style is not the best fit for what McMillan wants. No one would disagree with that. Sergio was content to have a backup role when it seemed to him that his contribution was valued. That’s really the main thing he seemed to want. There were times, some of them fairly extensive, this past season when Sergio was seeing regular but limited minutes. He had some good outings and some not as good — pretty much like everybody else on the team not named Brandon Roy. But as the season wore on, Nate seemed to revert back to keeping Sergio on a very short chain. By the time we got to the playoffs, Sergio had only a few token minutes, and I think that was the final turning point as far as he was concerned. You can say that he didn’t deserve any more time, and perhaps that’s true, but no NBA player worth his salt would be satisfied with that, especially not one as young and talented as Sergio.

I have to laugh as you say that it’s not really worth carrying on about something so trivial, and then you go on to write a tome. But of course, that’s your style. With this, I hereby resign from the present round of Sergio wars on this site.

"Just kidding"

by CatMan2 on Jun 27, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My main point

Was to offer the fans of Sergio’s new team some thoughts from a Blazers fan about the mysterious and exotic Sergio.

It really doesn’t take long to write this many words, so I assure you I am not wasting my time. What I wrote above in both instances was done in a matter of minutes, all in good fun.

If called out by someone by name and words/thoughts put into my E-mouth, I shall respond and explain myself. I support almost every NBA player (except the Ruben Patterson rapey-types) and hope they find a good situation. I think Sergio thinks he is more than a backup, so if he ends up being only a backup, I hope he is okay with it. And backups never get an offense built around their style of play or are given much rope when there is a good starter to go to. I say this because I think he is “only” a backup (some think much worse about his skills). I don’t think being a backup is a bad thing, but there are limitations that come with it that a starter-quality player doesn’t have to accept.

I admire Sergio’s passing very much, but I liken it to a nice dunker or a streak shooter. It is great when it is on, but doesn’t offer enough when he isn’t. I am sure more minutes would help him though, since he’s a “in the flow” type of player. I just don’t think there are many situations where enough minutes would be available to him… except for Sacramento, right now.

So, I was very glad he got moved to Sacramento. I am sure we could have gotten more for him, but he’d just be in the same situation he was in in Portland— backing up a decent PG and playing sop up duty type minutes. In a contract year for a young guy, that would be Hell.

I don’t think anything I said was wrong. He is not happy being a backup, and backups don’t play more minutes than he does unless they are the 6th man. He isn’t a 6th man, he is a backup. Right now at least.

I think most PGs who aren’t good shooters, aren’t good defenders, struggle to run a pick and roll, and NEED the ball in their hands for 20 seconds each shot clock to create their offense will stuggle with almost every coach in the NBA. I don’t think Coach Nate would be alone. Sergio isn’t a good fit for most coaches, but Nate especially— I just think Nate gets undue blame for the lack of improvement in Sergio’s game (especially when compared to the improvement the rest of the roster has enjoyed).

He’s sorta a Catch-22 type player… he’s got some skills that are definitely starter quality and he needs minutes to show them, BUT the rest of his skills aren’t good enough to warrant the amount of minutes needed to show off what he does best.

I don’t like the message being simplified into “doesn’t support Sergio”. I root for him to succeed very much.

Doesn’t mean he doesn’t have glaring problems, in my eyes.

Mortimer

PS: I find the simplicity of the Sergio debates is what I dislike, not the debate of Sergio in general. And since my feelings on Sergio are not as simple as “I like him”, I express myself fully to not be misunderstood. I think I was clear, but that is because I wrote it. I am biased.

I like discussing what a player does and doesn’t do; I don’t like the constant battle and bad blood over a guy playing 12 minutes a night. I don’t mind people loving Sergio, but many Sergio lovers REALLY mind someone not liking him.

That is wrong, to me.

by Mortimer on Jun 27, 2009 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I am proven once again to be a liar -- I cannot yet quit the argument.

Really, Mortimer, if nothing else your approach will wear me out. I got about half way through your comment nodding in agreement or acceptance before you starting in again with a critique that has no basis in fact. You say “He is not happy being a backup.” I say find something to document that claim.

Sure, he no doubt would like to be a starter eventually — who wouldn’t — but everything I have heard him say and every quoted statement that I have read has so far indicated that he is content to fill a backup role as long as he feels valued. You are just making things up or think you can somehow read his mind.

I don’t in general take a black/white approach to complex issues, and I realize that you don’t either. Nevertheless, it seems to me that whereas I “like” Sergio, you really don’t. At least, you have precious few good things to say about him.

The two most cringe-worthy public speaking events I have ever attended were a retirement party where the president went on and on about how great the retiring vice-president’s father had been, never saying a good word about the VP himself, and a wedding reception where the best thing the groom’s father could say about his new daughter-in-law was that she was kind to animals. Your appraisals of Sergio are about as positive. I just wish you would admit you don’t like him.

It’s as if I said to my wife, “Honey, you know I love you, I really do, I mean you do a great job of keeping the house clean and when you feel like it you can whip up a pretty tasty dinner, but you seem to be neglecting your personal hygiene these days, and that outfit you’re wearing — is that from St. Vinnie’s? — I just think you are probably a bit tired is all … you really don’t look too well, are you sure you feel okay? It’s probably the extra weight you’re carrying around ….”

Also, you seem to like to throw in straw man arguments from time to time. Above, you say “… many Sergio lovers REALLY mind someone not liking him.” Okay, that may be true, but you’re talking to ME, Mortimer. I truly don’t care what you think of him. You’re entitled to your opinion. But I become annoyed when you (or other people) basically fabricate things to make your point. Look, I would tend to agree that his shooting is still sub-par, his difficulty in finishing at the rim is problematic, and his defense could be much improved. But when you start to criticize his attitude, I take exception. I don’t think you can document the kinds of things you constantly insinuate about him, e.g., that he blames others for holding him back, thinks he should have been a starter, etc. It’s just not necessary to gild the lily, to put it redundantly.

It is especially annoying when you suggest that people only really like Sergio because he’s white. I am thankful you didn’t resort to that little gem this time around. You are a very skilled advocate for your positions, but sometimes I think you don’t play fair. I guess if this was a matter of love or war (or business, for some), it would all be okay. Certainly the stakes here are quite trivial. You have just managed to push some buttons of mine. After all of this, I am ready to let it go if you are.

"Just kidding"

by CatMan2 on Jun 27, 2009 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sheesh you guys, get a motel room

and that is why I don’t read Blazers Edge

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by Bluejohn on Jun 27, 2009 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

White?

I ain’t said people like him all because he was white in a serious comment, ever. Thanks for bringing that into the conversation.

I think he wouldn’t stand out as much, or get so much attention, if he wasn’t a white Spaniard playing a streetball style. He stands out because he is rare. Plus, his rookie year SO MANY people predicted greatness from him (like, an allstar or more), that sometimes (I feel) the tendency then when the prediction doesn’t come true is to cast blame elsewhere, instead of just admitting they jumped the gun or the player isn’t THAT good.

I am sorry I do not like Sergio to an appropriate level to say “I like Sergio”, in your opinion. I do, in fact, like Sergio and think Sactown got a great deal. But everything his Euro agents say, all the leaks to La Marca, all the reports by Jason Quick, come because Sergio is unhappy with being a backup and has made that clear. Now, I define backup as a guy who plays backup to the starter at that position, and thus only plays whatever minutes there are leftover because the starter will play as much as he can. That was Sergio’s role. He was a backup. Sergio is not happy with his role. Therefore, Sergio is not happy being a backup.

If we disagree on how a backup is defined, then that may be the root of the problem.

His handlers don’t say this stuff if Sergio isn’t saying it. And his claim that Nate doesn’t tell him what he does wrong, he doesn’t get why he doesn’t play… c’mon. He’d be the only player on the entire roster with that problem. He’d be the easiest guy to predict what Nate would tell him— make shots, improve your team defense, make better reads on offense, don’t hold the ball, etc. Everything we mostly all agree he does wrong.

You seem unhappy because I am not talking about Sergio in a manner you approve of. That is what the “nameless Sergio supporters” do. Ya either gotta love the lil’ scamp, or you are his enemy. That is INCREDIBLY lame. He is not anywhere close to perfect, so I speak about what he has done wrong in addition to what he does right.

I have problems with his game, and think he is unhappy playing 12 minutes a game (defined as a BACKUP). He will have the same problem almost anywhere.

Just because I don’t think a guy will be a great player, doesn’t mean I don’t like him. I cheered for Darius Miles to make the Grizzlies and for Z-Bo to finally someday get his head on straight. Doesn’t mean I don’t find fault with most of what they did as Blazers.

We don’t agree on the appropriate way to speak of the love that dare not speak its name, so we can either tell each other we are wrong in email (mortimerfromblazersedge@gmail.com) or drop it here. I assure you, even though I see everything Sergio seems to do wrong, I wish the kid well and I hope he is a success. Me hoping he’ll be a success and me thinking he’ll be a success are entirely different, and perhaps that is why you might think I’m being two-faced on this whole Sergio thing.

This is has been valuable for the Sactown crowd, no matter how annoying it may have been to read. This is a taste test of the fun Sergio can bring— lengthy back and forths and potential hurt feelings over a guy who, in the right situation, can be a role playing backup PG.

I don’t mind this sort of back and forth at all, and I hope you don’t. I enjoy speaking at length about our players, and I don’t take any of this personally and I hope you don’t either. I don’t think I hurt your feelings, I added that part because so many over the years have been wounded by the Sergio wars. I don’t think the wars will take so many casualties in Sacramento, because he wasn’t drafted by them and then come out of essentially ‘nowhere’ to be a rotation player. That usually makes fans more attached to a dude than they would be otherwise.

I don’t doubt he’ll divide the fanbase though. He has that effect.

One thing I will admit is that I am glad he was traded, but not because I don’t like him. What I want to see is who was right— was it the Blazers holding him back, or is it Sergio’s game. Plus, when a player feels stuck, I always want them to get a new beginning somewhere to show what they feel like they can do. I am extremely pro-player and generally support them doing what they feel like they need to do, since it is such a short career and can end at any moment.

Also, the endless sensitive debate about Sergio can end at our home on Blazers Edge. We can all move on. Like KP sez, it is time.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jun 28, 2009 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I timed myself on this one

8 minutes! Hoo doggies. I can bitch about Sergio faster than anyone on the planet, looka’ me go!

YEEEEEEE HA.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jun 28, 2009 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Remember, you guys CAN cuss on StR.

Mort — I took a speed-reading course and it took me longer than eight minutes just to read your comment, so I know you needed longer than that to write it, unless your real name is Mavis Beacon.

by MiledAnimal on Jun 29, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Always fun talkin atcha, Mortimer!

No feelings hurt. We probably agree more than not on this issue as even more fully on other matters Blazer-related. You are the bestest, fastest arguer around. Hats off!

Sorry to Sactown folks for airing our laundry on your site. Best of luck next season!

"Just kidding"

by CatMan2 on Jun 28, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

P.S.

Sorry if I have misunderstood what I thought was a racial argument (NOT RACIST) that you had previously made.

"Just kidding"

by CatMan2 on Jun 28, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sergio complained because he didn’t have a role. One game he’d play 20min, and the next one he’d get a DNP-CD. The only thing he asked for was a role, to know what was expected out of him.

He’s always worked very hard, no one can complain about him. He was a personal Pritchard choice that Nate never liked.

On an interview with Nate (should be in some old fanshot on BE), Nate himself explained that sometimes he took Sergio out of games not because of his performance, but the guys around.

Imagine how it’d be to feel that you’re doing well, then get benched without knowing what’s wrong and your coach not telling you…

Sergio is much more tough minded than me.

Nobody expects a Spanish Acquisition!

by DaniBCN on Jun 28, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I understand it's a tough situation to be in

But that’s the life of a backup. Nate’s right, it isn’t Sergio’s fault, it’s that we had Roy/Rudy/Blake to play over him.

I agree that Sergio wasn’t a cancer or anything like that. I think everyone liked him, and I know i like him, and I’m glad he got put in a good situation because I couldn’t see him getting more minutes over the guys in front of him on the Blazers(even ignoring the Bayless situation).

I think we all agree that he shouldn’t be starting, and that the guys in front of him are better players. But that’s also the problem— around 12 minutes a game is a good amount of minutes for a guy in that situation. There just wasn’t going to be a lot of wiggle room, or a bigger role, when the other guys were so dependable and good.

So, for Sergio’s sake, and for his career, I am glad he got moved. I just can’t blame Nate for not playing him more minutes when he had better players to play ahead of him. I don’t think it’s fair to expect a coach to do. I also don’t think it’s fair to expect a coach to change a style of play for a role player.

That also is why it’s good for Sergio to go. If he isn’t going to be a halfcourt player, he will struggle with Nate. But, as a backup, he’ll always have to adjust his game to what his coach wants, since the team won’t build the offense around him.

THAT is what I worry about with Sergio.

I can’t blame Sergio for wanting more minutes, and I can’t blame Nate for limiting his minutes. I don’t think it’s anyone’s fault, really, which is why it’s a good thing to move on.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jun 28, 2009 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why do you always sign your posts?

It’s really weird, since your name is right below your name.

Who needs to read Mortimer twice? Particularly given how long your posts are.

The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.

by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 28, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I got my reasons

I like how it looks, and it is a personal joke for myself. I am a silly head.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jun 28, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1 on your take on Ben.

Ben is a good guy and I love to read his stuff.

However, I would never want that guy to be my boss. He picks favorites like Bill Simmons and uses the guise of journalism to try and swing opinion his way.

He didn’t like Serg & he loved Bayless. Bayless is the ‘cooler’ of the two after all (might like shoes more, etc.).

I hope Bayless is a smashing success for us, but to be honest, the kind of support he has gotten turns me off.

Sergio is a gentleman off the court and he is all fire and skill on it. The only person with a locker room problem is his spanish agent who apparently didn’t get enough attention from his mother as a child.

by staylost on Jun 29, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love Sergio

if things don’t work out for him in Sac Town (which I hope they do), I’d love to see him in Spain where he could play starter minutes. That guy is just flat out fun to watch.

by prezofdeath on Jun 29, 2009 3:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Sergio will succeed

Because of the system….I remember Weshphal in Phoenix, up tempo, premium on spot up shooters and a penetrating passing KJ type of point. Serio is made for this type of offense. Most of his “failure” in Portland was an inability to fit into the style there mandated by Nate and by having Roy as your all star. In their system, you need an outside shooting pg to take some of the offensive heat off of Roy, able to defend bigger pgs, and Sergio was not that guy. In an up tempo pass first offense, he will excel. Just as a disclaimer, I am a Blazer fan who used to live in Yuba City. I wish you Kings fans the best, you deserve better than 17 wins, and I think under Westphals system you will do better.

by yubaduck on Jul 4, 2009 9:42 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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