Don't underestimate the stupidity of the Clippers

by longtimelistenerfirsttimecaller on Jun 30, 2009 12:14 PM PDT

Last week I posted a Beno for Camby deal. Many blasted the idea saying the Clips would never do it. Today, Chad Ford says in his ESPN Chat that the Clips (apparently the owner Stirling) rejected a deal for Darko's expiring for Zach Randoph's mammoth contract! I guess you can also say "don't underestimate the stupidity of the Grizzlies" because I think the proposal was nearly as stupid as turning it down. Thus, I repeat, you don't have to offer equal value to some teams to make trades (e.g. Paul Gasol to Lakers).

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Yea but who's buddy buddy with GP?

Adelman, but he’s not that stupid.

With the fourth pick of the draft the kings select...

by kangsfan on Jun 30, 2009 12:34 PM PDT reply actions

Wait... what?

what does Adelman have to do with the Clippers or Grizzlies or anything related to this fan post at all?

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by vfettke on Jun 30, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions

I need new shoelaces.

As seems equally germane to the conversation.

From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.

by My Losing Season on Jun 30, 2009 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions

I was trying to say

and poorly I might add that in order for us to get a Gasol type deal as refernced in the post that we need someone from another orgqanization to hand us a freebie. The last line states "You don’t have to offer equal value to some teams to make trades.

With the fourth pick of the draft the kings select...

by kangsfan on Jun 30, 2009 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions

who is GP?

by homer simpson on Jul 1, 2009 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions

Geoff Petrie

Been here long?

The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.

by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 1, 2009 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions

D'oh!

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by section214 on Jul 1, 2009 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions

Mmmm...D'ohnuts

by otis29 on Jul 1, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions

Well

the salaries don’t match, so the trade doesn’t work without more players. Randolph makes $16.5 mill this season, Darko only $7.5 mill.

by PurplePurple on Jun 30, 2009 12:50 PM PDT reply actions

Yeah

but they were still stupid to turn it down. Darko’s an expiring and none of the other players Memphis would have sent them would have longer contracts than Randolph. It could’ve been Randolph for Darko and Jaric, which would’ve saved the Clippers like $9 million

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by vfettke on Jun 30, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions

wrong...

Griz are so far under the cap that they can take back more in contract than they send out… that is true of the Kings as well (at least $7.5M), thus the camby for beno deal has the Kings taking back more this year than is going out…. however, Camby’s contract expires after next season… making it even more attractive.

by longtimelistenerfirsttimecaller on Jun 30, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions

Good point longtimelistenerfirsttimecaller

I forgot Memphis was/is well under the cap. And I don’t disagree with the Clips/Sterling being stupid for passing on a chance to unload Randolph, only that the exact pieces being offered may not have been relayed. Now lets get Camby :)

by PurplePurple on Jun 30, 2009 2:07 PM PDT reply actions

Camby has such a big contract for a role player. I guess the same could be said about Beno.

by bignerd on Jun 30, 2009 3:43 PM PDT reply actions

A role player that averaged a double double plus two blocks per last year

For the one year left on his contract, he would fit in nicely with Hawes and Thompson up front. I’d deal Noc or Beno for him in a heartbeat, but the Clips won’t return my calls.

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by section214 on Jun 30, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions

This role player

Is still one of the best help defenders in the league. He also is a great shot blocker (which is kinda why he’s such a good help defender) as well as rebounder. He is an underrated passer and he’d fit in nicely with Shock and Hawes.

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by submison on Jun 30, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions

I wouldn't mind seeing Camby here at all

by otis29 on Jun 30, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions

Otis, your new avatar reke's.

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by section214 on Jun 30, 2009 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

And allegedly

One of the most genuinely nice guys in the league.

by furious.d on Jul 2, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions

Camby fits this team like a glove.

by DesertFox on Jun 30, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions

Yeah, now that I think about it

Camby might be the ultimate guy for a 3 man rotation of Hawes, Camby, and Thompson. The only big problem with Camby is age.

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by submison on Jun 30, 2009 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions

I see Camby's age ...

… as what makes him good fit. 20 or so minutes of quality time doesn’t over use him, while still leaving 38 minutes each for Shock and Hawes. 30 or so if you want cut in 10 to 15 for The Brock to do his cooking.

by Mystic on Jul 1, 2009 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions

Add in JT’s penchant for fouls, and there will be games where the big off the bench will see 30 minutes.
No matter what, JT and Hawes won’t have to worry about PT like the beginning of last year, so I don’t see a problem with adding Camby.

by DesertFox on Jul 1, 2009 1:05 AM PDT up reply actions

Let's hope JT has the fouls under control this year

by Mystic on Jul 1, 2009 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions

like

oj simpsons glove?

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by Robby1987 on Jul 1, 2009 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions

If the gloves fits

you can’t commit.

Guess it is not happening

by betweentheeyes on Jul 1, 2009 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions

Camby has a lot of interest...

Ric Bucher has said several teams are vying for Camby as the interest for Randolph is non-existent. He claimed there is a lot less interest in Kaman as he has a big contract with several years left; however, he has enough value that he could be moved. The Clips apparently are trying to move Kaman rather than Camby for that reason, and this makes sense. Camby comes off the books in a year, and they have (with the exception of Baron Davis) a great, cheap, young team with Griffin, Thorton, and Eric Gordon as building blocks.

Thus, I would be very surprised if the Kings were able to move their worst contract with several years left for Camby. We would have to throw in a 1st round pick at the very least, so I just don’t see it happening.

More realistic is Kaman gets moved for spare parts and expiring contracts. I could OKC or Memphis taking a flyer on him, and they have the cap space to make it work.

by R-Man on Jul 1, 2009 8:53 AM PDT reply actions

Kaman is nearly impossible to move because he has a $7.5 milion trade kicker.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2641609

i’d be surprised if any owner wanted to pay that.

by homer simpson on Jul 1, 2009 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions

Clippers came out ahead.

The trade Sterling rejected included Marko Jaric’s contract. Now they dumped Z-Bo’s deal, cleared up cap space this year, and got just Q’s expiring deal.

This phrase isn’t typed too often but: Great move by the Clippers

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by SoulHonky on Jul 2, 2009 11:58 AM PDT reply actions