Kings Are Trading For Rubio?
by HarbirD on Jun 5, 2009 12:41 PM PDT
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Get this Quote From Hoopsworld: (link http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=12865 )
"Rubio And The Kings?: It seems the Kings might end up with their man after all, word is the Kings are working on a deal with Memphis to land Ricky Rubio at #2, league sources say a lot is still up in the air and a deal is far from done, but should the two teams make a deal it is not going to include Jason Thompson as some have speculated. Any deal between the Kings and Grizzlies might include future draft picks but unlikely will include a roster player of subtsance. League sources contend that Memphis really does not have a lot of leverage in this situation as Rubio will not play for the Grizzlies. The Kings are willing to deal for Rubio and unless Oklahoma City gets in the mix, moving down to #4 still fits Memphis' game plan. The Kings are preparing a contingent plan that could include grabbing Jordan Hill at #4, which would be a solid "win-now" move if the Grizzlies hold out for more compensation. League sources say if the Grizzlies move down to #4, Tyreke Evans would be their man on draft night, which makes sense, considering Evans can play both point guard and shooting guard, backing up OJ Mayo and Mike Conley and would be immensely popular with the Memphis fan base. "
Ok so to dissect this we have some key words and phrases here: "word is" "league sources" "contingent plan". I don't know how reliable these "sources" are, but it seems like this post seemed pretty logical until the point where it got to the Kings selecting Jordan Hill as a "contingent plan." I am quite confident that the Kings will not chose Hill and instead wil opt for Holiday or Evans. However I really hope this is true and it could be because Petrie is interested in Rubio on account of two trips to go watch him. His skills of passing and anticipation and foul drawing are very near and dear to Petrie. Another key part of this is that it says that Jason Thompson and no "player of substance" will be included in this deal which is really good because I'm not giving up Thompson to go up two spots and neither is Petrie (I think). They are saying though the deal might include future draft picks though that doesn't seem very Petrie-esk. Anyway keeping this all in mind I'll propose a couple deals and you all can discuss this post and my deal\s (too much or too little)
Deal 1:
Sacramento gives: #4 pick, Kenny Thomas, #23 pick and $3 million
Memphis gives: #2 pick, Marko Jaric
Deal 2:
Sacramento gives: #4 pick, Kenny Thomas, Donte Greene, and next year first round draft pick (top ten protected next year and top five protected in 2011) (THIS IS ONLY ONE FUTURE PICK!)
Memphis gives: #2 pick, Marko Jaric
Discuss!
(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)
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Kings were giving up too much in the deals you proposed
Way too much in the second one.
That article makes some sense, though. Thanks for posting that. If there’s any truth in it, I just hope Jordan Hill isn’t their contingency plan.
by Charlieb on Jun 5, 2009 1:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
No way we give up next year’s #1 even draft protected, or the year after that. We have too many pieces to fill over the next couple of years. far more likely that we give cash, the #23 or #31 (but not both) or—maybe K-9’s expiring (but even that seems like a lot.) Unless they want Rubio—which they wouldn’t if this di happen—there just isn’t enough value between 2 and 4 to justify anything more than a low pick or money.
Interesting though. It would be nice to have it verified through a second source.
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by SavageBeast on Jun 5, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+2
It isn’t going to take a high level pick or player to get this deal done. Giving 3 million plus the savings of picking #4 v. #2 is pretty substantial savings for a cash strapped Grizz team. I could also see this going down to the last minute if Petrie thinks he can get Rubio at #4 without a deal.
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by jjham15 on Jun 5, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup,
if, like the article states, Rubio won’t play for the Griz the only possible barriers to Rubio falling to 4 is OKC (unlikely) or Clippers moving down (even less likely).
That being said I’d pay 3 mil to pick Rubio with the 2.
Teh Dego Dagger
by BPaoliano on Jun 5, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd pay 3 million of the Maloofs dollars too
But I’m not fully convinced they feel the same way about throwing around their money right now. Although, I bet they could recoup a lot of that in Ricky bobbleheads….
by Charlieb on Jun 6, 2009 7:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Total net savins....
…is 7 million dollars over the course of the rookie contract. That’s quite substantial and the LIKELY deal IMO. If not that, then just a 2/4 swap with Jaric/Thomas involved.
by Smills91 on Jun 8, 2009 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
If I’m Memphis I would jump on the second deal…If I’m Sac I don’t make the second deal.
The first deal ..sounds fair and do-able. I would take it especially since I believe the Kings will be able to trade the ungauranteed money of the 31st pick for a pick in the 20s.
This would also mean if the Clippers stay the Clippers we probably still have a shot a Griffin.
by ElRonToro on Jun 5, 2009 1:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Unlike the Jeffersons
I’m not sold on movin’ on up.
I like Rubio, Evans and Holiday, and I’m still intrigued by Curry, Jennings and a couple of others. I just don’t see giving up squat for Rubio, especially given that he may be around at 4 anyway.
Also, nearly zero interest in Jaric, unless his wife is contractually obligated to sit courtside at all home games. He’ll be 31 in October, and I don’t see him resurging in a big way. I’d rather hang on to K9’s contract, it’ll be a very attractive lure after the first of the year.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Jun 5, 2009 1:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
beware of smokescreens
First, no way this information came from a Kings source… based on history, there aren’t many teams that are as tight-lipped as the Kings. Second, why would Memphis sources leak this? maybe to drive up interest from other teams that a deal could be had? The trade concept makes some sense for Memphis since the payroll cost from a number 2 to a number 4 is not insignificant to a financially-strapped team, but it seems WAY too early for this rumor to have much validity to me. Hope I’m wrong for two reasons: 1) it means GP is truly sold on Rubio and 2) would love to see some excitement back at Arco, if not wins immediately.
by longtimelistenerfirsttimecaller on Jun 5, 2009 1:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I really don't think Jordan Hill at four is a huge stretch.
There are numerous mock drafts that show Ty Lawson going all the way past #23, why not get better frontcourt depth at the no. 4 and then relying on the deep PG crop to land NBA serviceable PG’s at 23 and 30. I was actually going to post a fanpost on doing just that, I would rather have Hill and Lawson then a combo guard/psycho T. At worst if Lawson is gone you can also get Collison at 30.
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by moproblemz on Jun 5, 2009 2:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Why draft a backup PF with the 4th pick?
and then settle for the remaining PG?
Point guard is the strongest position in this draft and a position of need. If you’re going to reach, make it for a guy with star potential rather than a guy that people are calling a less athletic Chris Wilcox.
If you’re not going for a PG at 4, go for the best available player and that’s not Hill.
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by SoulHonky on Jun 5, 2009 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually,
I could make the argument that at 4 he could be the bpa. Maybe doesn’t fill the biggest positional need on this team but we could do worse.
Despite the source this sentence stuck out to me,
League sources contend that Memphis really does not have a lot of leverage in this situation as Rubio will not play for the Grizzlies.It seems consistent with what DX and other more credible sources are reporting.
They might as well take some cash and a lower draft pick.
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by BPaoliano on Jun 5, 2009 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How is he the BPA?
There’s Harden and Evans available then. Psycho T is annoying, but who is to say that Jordan Hill is definitely going to be better than him?
by KeonClark on Jun 6, 2009 1:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, if he's the BPA at 4 then this draft is horrible.
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by SoulHonky on Jun 6, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't
HoopsWorld the place that said Dwayne Casey is the “front runner” for the Kings head coaching job? I don’t give it much cred.
Booyah!
by what_the_crap on Jun 5, 2009 2:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And the ones that used old quotes to concoct a Rondo rumor
They have zero credibility. Especially during the draft, they are ridiculous when it comes to posting fake rumors.
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by SoulHonky on Jun 5, 2009 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They reported a rumor that a Boston DJ "concocted"
The rumors have hardly begun to fly. Wait another week or so. Abe Polin has said that he’s willing to pay the lux tax if it would get them results and I read a ton of stuff and I’ve heard nothing of substance that says the Bullets are looking to move Jamison this year. The Jamison “rumors” are posted as hypothetical trades in the comments section. /everything I’ve read indicates that with Gilbert healthy (9?) that the Bullets are willing to take another shot with their big three and a new coach. Buying the #5 pick for Songalia and cash is a pipe dream.
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by Bluejohn on Jun 6, 2009 3:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hoopsworld...
…you have to pick and choose. They’re a QUANTITY site, as they report EVERYTHING from fact to fiction.. Don’t throw the baby out of the bathwater here. Use your brain, think through it and you’ll know whether it’s credible or not. Dwayne Casey rumor….AWFUL. This story, pretty credible IMO.
by Smills91 on Jun 8, 2009 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
K9/4 for Lima/2 will get it done
they save money in the short term and don’t drop that much. Whoever they want other than Rubio is certainly guaranteed to be there at #4, unless its Thabeet and even he could drop
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by vfettke on Jun 5, 2009 2:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
More like
GP gives up #4 and #31 and cash for #2, takes advantage of the other rumored opportunity by giving up #23 and cash for #15. Voila! The Kings are the Trailblazers of this year’s NBA draft.
Lower their expectations and rise to met them
by left hand on Jun 5, 2009 2:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
cash?
where is this cash going to come from? I like the idea, but think “cash is King” these days and we don’t seem to have much… just ask Koz.
by longtimelistenerfirsttimecaller on Jun 5, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
late-first/early-second picks were available for cash last year and even though Petrie was high on Chalmers and others the cash wasn’t there to buy a pick for them. It’s a shame too… drafting Chalmers may have kept us from resigning Beno and wound up as a huge net savings (not sure the timing on his FA deal versus the draft).
by cabz on Jun 5, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beno was signed after the draft (July 9)
but the Kings had no PG at the time and gambling that Chalmers would work did not seem smart. Hindsight disagrees.
Beno’s contract
by betweentheeyes on Jun 5, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not only does hindsight disagree.
Petrie was reportedly very high on him, correct? I wish he would have just gone with his gut on that one. Perhaps the Clippers would have given Beno a max-MLE deal (I doubt it), but having Chalmers would have put us in better position to bargain.
The Beno signing does not fit well with rebuilding mode – makes you wonder if the Maloofs were still pressuring Petrie to rebuild on the fly when he made that decision.
by cabz on Jun 5, 2009 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it is one of those deals so bad in hindsight
that it makes harkening back to the when and where seem misbegotten and foolhardy.
From what I recall – Tyronne Lu and rookies were it. Beno had come off a promising season and was part of the team, and therefore part of the reason, that the Kings made a peripheral playoff run and overacheived. Beno was pursued by the Clippers as well, who had just lost Shaun Livingston and he wanted a payday.
He got his payday. Unfortunately, his Tasmanian Slovenian became Bahamian Slovenian (ya’ mon). I actually think the guy can not only play better but will actually play better this next season. But I also think the Kings will make the palyoff before Medicare goes bankrupt. It really wasn’t that bad of a deal at the time. Overpaid by a bit, overextended by a bit, it seemed. As a GM you either a genius or a fool. Petrie was a fool on this one.
by betweentheeyes on Jun 5, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
playoffs!?
Lower their expectations and rise to met them
by left hand on Jun 5, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure that the #15 and the #2 pick make a lot of sense.
I like the idea of trading up but @ #23 there should be plenty of talent- the #15 lands you a better point guard talent, the #23 lands a rebounder/defender. If the Kings move up to get Rubio then I don’t see the need to move up from #23…unless your sold on BJ Mullens? I would make a deal with Washington for the #5 because that pick could get you one of three players that compliment the Rubio pick- Hill, Thabeet or Derozan. All three play a different positions but all three could add to this team.
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by jjham15 on Jun 5, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why the hell would we take Jaric?
We are finally, FINALLY almost out from under the curse of the C-Webb contract—-the worst in the history of the franchise. So why we would extend the curse another year by replacing K9 with Jaric. Jaric is on the hook for two more seasons at over $7 million per, and the guy has not been a contributor at all. Woof! is finally done after next year, albeit at an obscene $8.5 mil.
What possible incentive would the Kings have to take Jaric?
by My Losing Season on Jun 5, 2009 2:49 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Rubio-
Taking on Jaric in exchange for Thomas is in lieu of giving up something else of value ie. Donté Greene, future first or the #23. Sure it extends the Webber trade but if it lands you the player you want then so be it.
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by jjham15 on Jun 5, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My point is...
There is no reason to OFFER Jaric in that deal. If Memphis takes a hard line and demands it, that’s another matter. But I would resist that idea as long as possible.
by My Losing Season on Jun 5, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the more I think about it
I think the most we should offer is #4/KT for #2/Jaric, as Memphis has little to no leverage in this situation and taking on the Jaric contract through the almighty 2010 FA class could really help Memphis out.
by coachtheus on Jun 5, 2009 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Way
No Way i want Jaric to join the Kings. Beno and Jaric on the same team with two horrible contracts, it doesnt sound good at all. They both just want the money and dont have the heart to be good players in the league, Jaric played pretty good in his contract year just like Beno and now that they got cashed out dont care anymore. Beno is actually a little better than Jaric, Their contracts together are going to be around 13 mil for at least two more years, thats a horrrible trade proposal. Rubio looks pretty good but is not worth that much. He looks like hes going to be an unathletic, below the rim cant shoot point guard that maybe can become a great passer, I’ll change maybe into possibly. It does not seem worth it at all…
by Chent on Jun 5, 2009 3:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Petrie won't do anything stupid based on hype alone
There’s no way Petrie goes to any length and let Memphis exercise so much leverage against him unless the marginal difference in quality between Rubio and any of Evans, Holiday, Jennings, etc. is that damn high. Evans tore it up in college and could be the next DWade. Holiday impressed GP in workouts and it doesn’t sound like GP got a good enough look while on his trip to Europe. Rubio still might end up falling to #4 anyways.
by creep on Jun 5, 2009 3:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think you might be underestimating the quality of Rubio in this draft.
Rubio would be #1 or #2 in next years draft if he waits a year. He is a top tier talent and a true point guard, not a possible point/two like Evans. Evans might be a nice player but no one has mentioned comparisons to Wade that I have seen or as a top 3 player. I think you should look at the speed and agility numbers of Wade v. Evans- they really don’t compare. IMO Rubio is a much better overall prospect.
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by jjham15 on Jun 5, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve honestly never seen Rubio play other than briefly during the olympics so my impression is mainly based on reading articles and youtube highlights. Maybe it’s just Petrie’s secretive nature but it didn’t seem like he saw enough to be wowed over. That being said, I would still vote for Rubio over any of the other pgs in this draft, but I just don’t think taking on additional salary or disadvantaging yourself in other ways justifies the tradeoff. There is some depth at the pg position this year and I don’t see enough of a dropoff in talent between Rubio and others to take on an additional year of salary at $7m to do it. I think a swap of picks and some cash to save money for memphis is the most I would do. Anything more just doesn’t seem reasonable.
by creep on Jun 5, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts
Maybe it’s just Petrie’s secretive nature but it didn’t seem like he saw enough to be wowed over.
Before we drafted them, who knew that Petrie was “wowed” by Martin, Hawes, JT?
Petrie’s not going to rave over a player any more than he has raved over a coaching candidate.
It’s always possible that Petrie lets Memphis take Rubio, then trades for him afterward if he thinks that he’s the guy and that he’ll fall to 4.
Right now it’s a case of who blinks first. Does Rubio state that he’ll play for Memphis or OKC if they draft him? Does Memphis trade away the pick because they believe he won’t come over? Or does Petrie offer a sweet deal to get the #2 pick before draft day to guarantee we get Rubio?
I’d say the second option is most likely, the third option least likely, and the first option is the wildcard that could affect the other two.
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by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 5, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't Hoopsworld
recently report that Dwayne Casey was the front runner in the Kings coaching search? I don’t trust their “sources”
Also, if a trade does go down, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was merely a swap of #4 and #2. We might throw in the 31 or a draft pick next year, and Jaric and K-9 might also be involved. Greene and JT won’t.
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by Aykis16 on Jun 5, 2009 3:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Also
The only reason I see this trade happening is to ensure that OKC doesn’t screw it up by taking Rubio at the 3. Also, having Rubio at 2 helps him get more money over his contract, which helps the buyout considerably.
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by Aykis16 on Jun 5, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't be that surprised
if a simple #2 for #4 and #31 could get it done.
Lower their expectations and rise to met them
by left hand on Jun 5, 2009 3:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
agree...
i think Memphis might be scared of drafting rubio and him staying in europe, plus i think they are more financially challenged than the Kings and might prefer to pay the #4 salary slot vs. the #2 salary slot for the same player.
by longtimelistenerfirsttimecaller on Jun 5, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
crazy "portland" scenario?
If you actually like the top of this draft… there have been rumblings that the Wiz would actually like to drop out of the #5 pick because they are way over the luxury tax threshold in exchange for taking some of its dead contracts. Kings swap pix with Griz (giving up the #31) and pick Rubio, then swap the #5 for the #23 and take bake Songalia (nearly $5M) and pick ? (dare I say it: Thabeet?). We end up with a backup 4, a backup 5 and Rubio and call it a day! (think i’d rather have Harden, DeRozen or Evans myself)
by longtimelistenerfirsttimecaller on Jun 5, 2009 4:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Songalia's something of a bust
He doesn’t rebound or block shots. But he’s not that expensive or long-term (two more years at $4.5M and $4.8M), so if you get the #5 pick, great! I just doubt the Wiz would give away #5 that easily.
by My Losing Season on Jun 5, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt the deal
But I don’t doubt for a minute the Wiz would give up #5 that easily.
by bignerd on Jun 5, 2009 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If salary cutting is their goal...
Losing Songaila doesn’t get them very far ($9.3M, two years). With the #5 pick as bait, I expect they would want to try to unload Antawn Jamison. The guy is still a good player, but he is about to turn 33, and has three more years at $53M. If they can’t get any takers, I still doubt they’d be satisfied with unloading Songaila only.
But hey, #23 for #5 and Songaila? I’m all for it. I just don’t think it’s going to happen.
by My Losing Season on Jun 5, 2009 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are no takers for Jamison.
That contract is a joke that Washington will pay every penny of, same goes for agent zero. If the Wiz want cap relief, it will cost them either the #5 in a cash dump (Songalia or more likely Eton Thomas) or they will have to give up Caron Butler. So if your choice is to keep the #5 and pay an additional 20 or so million in salary (Thomas 7.35, 5th pick 2.74 million)/threshold money (almost dollar for dollar what Thomas and the 5th pick make) or dump the pick and slip under the luxury threshold then I don’t think you have a choice if you’re Washington.
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by jjham15 on Jun 6, 2009 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry- completing the thought.
This draft just isn’t worth a 20 million dollar hit for the 5th pick. If a super star in the making was available- D-Wade, K-G, Ray Allen, Vince Carter (all drafted #5 ) then you risk the 20 mill in investment- Harden, Thabeet, Hill, Derozan aren’t worth that kind of cash. Wait a second, they aren’t worth the 10 mill it would cost the Kings either.
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by jjham15 on Jun 6, 2009 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Maloofs will cough up blood before they cough up $10M
The Commish gave a recent speech whereby he announced a 10% expected drop in revenus next year. TEN (freaking) PER CENT (that deserves capitalization).
If any of the owners were not running scared before, they are now. Project that cap in two years. Wait, better yet, let’s let someone with the wherewithall figure it out – calling PookeyGuru, Pookey where are you? can you give us any help with projected cap from a 10% hit?
This may be CBA posturing but I doubt it. Washington is selling that pick (with a contract), they would be dumb not to, and Abe Pollin is not dumb, at least not $20M dumb with the hope of making the playoffs next year. Of course, Sacramento and Washington are both betting on Arenas to come through.
by betweentheeyes on Jun 6, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Playoffs have had higher than expected ratings
That might help the NBA.
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by Aykis16 on Jun 6, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the Orlando-LA series goes 7
That helps the NBA with revenue. It’s only bound to. When was the last time the NBA had a 7 game Finals? (San Antonio Detroit? Who was in love with that series?)
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by pookeyguru on Jun 6, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's true
I’m not optimistic about this one going 7 games, though. But I’d rather see LA win in 5 than see another Spurs/Pistons series.
by Charlieb on Jun 6, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good points all
It’s a bit ironic that the Wiz played so badly last season, but they don’t even want the consolation prize.
Does anyone know the rules about trading a first round pick in terms of salary matching? In other words, how much salary do the rules allow you to unload in return for exchanging draft picks? The answer is probably a lot more complicated than the question.
I’m thinking someone like Memphis or OKC would be better positioned than the Kings to take on salary in order to acquire the #5 pick. Portland might also be in position to do so since their team salary drops from about $80M last season to about $50M next season, and Pritchard is notorious for draft day maneuvering.
by My Losing Season on Jun 6, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe if it's just draft picks, the salaries don't matter
They could swap the #5 for a 2010 2nd rounder, or just sell it to anyone. As long as it is before the pick is made. Once the pick is made a salary hold is placed(from SalaryCapFAQ and here).
Now if they want to dump a player with the pick, the other team needs to have the cap space to acquire that player. So, yes other teams would be better positioned to take on another player.
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by Kfan in Korea on Jun 6, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Salary hold
…is in place from the cap, but the rights can still be traded without cap implications up until the deal is signed.
So drafting Casspi at #23 could be financially beneficial for the Kings in the short term.
by Smills91 on Jun 8, 2009 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Once the pick is made a cap hold is in place
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by Kfan in Korea on Jun 13, 2009 2:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
if that happens
I think we pull the trigger on DeRozan first. Thabeet won’t be there anyways. A star SF is our biggest need outside of the PG slot and while DeRozan is probably more of a 2 than a 3 he could get the job done.
by coachtheus on Jun 5, 2009 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
too much
stay at 4 and we will get a very good player! maybe even rubio since he has no intention playing for memphis or OKC…. anyway dont give up our next two years picks!!!!!!
by silverguy on Jun 5, 2009 6:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i say
if we get that number 2 spot by giving up just the 4, 31 and a lil bit of cash do it. other wise forget it. no way do we need to take on another bad contract.
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by Robby1987 on Jun 6, 2009 1:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't See it
If the Kings trade up to get Rubio, then Petrie thinks the kid will be a STAR. Just too many PG’s with potential in this draft to give up much to get Rubio.
by PurplePurple on Jun 8, 2009 8:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I don’t think I like Rubio enough to start throwing players/picks/cash around to get him. You are better off taking a PG or a frontcourt guy that you truly like (assuming that Petrie isn’t all gooey over Rubio) and then taking another good player at #23.
by nolookpass432 on Jun 9, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it's just me, but...
I’d like to see us draft Rubio just so we can have a Ricky/Martin backcourt.
by luckthefakers on Jun 10, 2009 10:35 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I mean, think of the
MARKETING possibilities.
by luckthefakers on Jun 10, 2009 10:36 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh yes
All the Puerta Rican teenyboppers will be all over it.
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by pookeyguru on Jun 10, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Kings would be living
la vida loca
by betweentheeyes on Jun 10, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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