It's Too Easy for Tyreke Evans
by Ziller on Jul 12, 2009 6:58 AM PDT
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Point guards like Russell Westbrook or Rajon Rondo -- it's impossible to take your eyes off them during the course of a game because they are everywhere you look. Tyreke Evans, while fitting into the same defense-drive-rebound phylum as the two aforementioned kids, isn't quite the same.
You can lose Tyreke Evans, turn your attention over to the other players on the court. Yet, there he is with 25 points, 10 rebounds, and five assists. It's because Westbrook and Rondo surprise you with the rebounds and the wacky defensive plays. They look out of place, even though they do the same thing over and over (and over). I will never get used to seeing Westbrook crashing the board, or Rondo doing his behind-the-back trick.
But Evans looks like he belongs in the paint pulling down rebounds. He looks like he belongs when he challenges shots from power forwards. He looks perfectly natural careening into three bodies on every drive, knocking his adversaries down while standing tall.
If Westbrook and Rondo embody the attributes of a power forward from the point guard position, Evans is a power forward at the point guard position.
His game is simply beastly. He is a monster in the lane -- really, he's closer to a smaller (much much less efficient) version of LeBron James than any other comparison. Dwyane Wade attacks the lane, gets knocked down, gets back up, and attack the lane again. LeBron attacks the lane, knocks the defender down, and attacks the lane again. Evans is in the middle, but closer to LeBron. On defense, it's the same: Wade gets blocks and steals with ultraquick hands and the one of the quickest pairs of pogo stick legs in the league. LeBron's best defensive skill is the fact that you cannot get him on his heels -- he is always in control of his body, and his body is the best on the floor. Reke has great hands, but he's much closer to the LeBron side on this equation. The Acie Law play in the first half -- where Law tried to drive around Evans but got absolutely nowhere -- shows this well: he is just too strong, too smart, too long, too quick.
As such, his magnificent plays look too easy, and you don't notice until he's destroying someone's ankles off the dribble. Which he did, oh, 13 or so times during the course of Saturday's game. His driving ability is truly unbelievable. I hope the Maloofs make him pay rent considering he'll be living at the free throw line.
I would have liked to see whether he could handle Stephen Curry during the Warriors' run (Curry and Evans rarely matched up) and it'll be interesting to see whether his assist numbers shoot up in the preseason, when he has Kevin Martin and Francisco Garcia taking fed threes instead of Donté Greene and Omri Casspi. I also want to see him defend some top-flight point guards (with all due respect to Will Conroy) before I get too ahead of myself on the lofty words.
But until then, I sit in disbelief. This cat is something amazing.
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Yup
He is going to be fun to watch. I’m excited about his defensive potential as well. That wingspan and quickness is going to make him a tough defender. I want to see him play legit PG’s as well, but also some of the leagues better two guards as hopefully he is able to guard both. It sure looks like it from the early going.
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by The Czar on Jul 12, 2009 7:31 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i’ve been pretty convinced from the start that Tyreke is going to be a beast (and perhaps the best player in the draft), but i’d have rather had the Kings draft Rubio just because of the electricity Jason Williams brought when he joined the Kings. but i’m weird, thundering dunks bore me while nifty passes excite.
by homer simpson on Jul 12, 2009 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Rubio?" Who's dat?
I lost all interest in Youtubio after the Olympics. If Rubio is a better passer, Evans is better at everything else. I’m actually done with using their names in the same sentence. I don’t see how anybody isn’t convinced yet.
by JETisKing on Jul 12, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never said he isn't good.
I only said, and still say, he isn’t a true point.
He looks for his own shot first, more often than not. We’re in for a season of Evans iso plays.
So on Friday, if you watch the game, listen for a crazy person screaming at him to pass the freakin’ ball. That will be me.
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by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 12, 2009 8:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
not all point guards are cut from the same cloth
the question isn’t whether or not he should “pass the freakin’ ball” it is whether or not he runs the team, facilitates the offense, rolls with and or options to change the game plan as the game dictates – for that is what a point guard does (or at least, my version of what I think a point guard does).
The other parts of this are Evans the basketball player. It is right to question if he can play “the position” and then separately, as TZ points out here by answerig the question – can he flat out play? – Looks like the consensus is a resounding yes! – exclamation point included. The talent level of the Sacramento Kings has been increased significantly. Just by being significantly better – /crosses fingers – he can make everyone else on the team better. In which case, he can play any damn position he wants.
by betweentheeyes on Jul 12, 2009 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LPA, first, great sig.
I think your comment goes two different directions. You obviously like the classic Kings basketball, pass-pass-pass-two dribble-pass-shot. It just looks like how basketball is supposed to be played.
That’s different than most people’s conception of a true point guard. A true point guard makes the play, most of the time. They may not take the shot or even get the assist, but they initiate the action, and usually they make the difficult decision or pass, leaving their teammate to make either the obvious pass or take the shot. In short a true point usually is fairly dominant of the ball, if they are good.
So, I’m not sure you actually want a true point guard, at least based on what I’ve seen you write in the past. John Stockton is about a prototypical as PGs get and he absolutely dominated the ball; which worked because he was a great player, but his style would have been a lot different in a Kings style offense.
Evans probably isn’t going to be exactly the guy you’d like. So far, I think he’s been a willing passer, which is a good sign, hopefully he keeps it up. He is going to be someone that makes plays though, he’s going to have turnovers, there will be moments you want to tear your hair out. However, he’s the first King in a long time that looks like he’ll be good enough to beat normal defense consistently and make the game easier for his teammates. It may not be pure Kings basketball, but if he’s good enough at it, we’ll be a lot better.
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by ForThree on Jul 12, 2009 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Agreed
we’re all so used to the Princeton and high post offense that we forget most pgs dont just bring the ball up, spot up, or swing the ball.
by passionforPERPS on Jul 12, 2009 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
However, he’s the first King in a long time that looks like he’ll be good enough to beat normal defense consistently and make the game easier for his teammates.
Exactly. But I do think the definition of “pure Kings basketball” has changed over 3 different coaches. Hopefully, with Coach Westphal, it will get back to the way we were spoiled by.
by JETisKing on Jul 12, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a matter of style
I hate iso plays. Some people love to watch a single guy break down defenses.
As far as being a willing passer, I think he passes as soon as defenses make him on most plays. Just look at the number of shots he took. And remember that number doesn’t include shots he took when he was fouled.
He needs the ball in his hands to be effective, and he plans to be a primary scoring option. Again, those aren’t necessarily bad. It’s just a style of basketball that drives me crazy to watch, and I would have preferred to draft a point guard where we would have more of a passing and motion-oriented offense.
The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.
by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 12, 2009 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
19 year old rookie
can still teach the young dog some new tricks I bet.
He has the good fortune to be with some talented teachers – Coachie, Paul Westphal and a team that will give him lots of leash with which to run.
The Kid has court vision, good handles, defends very well and has a good attitude – add some water, just a bit of fan fertilizer – and watch him grow.
by betweentheeyes on Jul 12, 2009 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Court vision?
I have seen no evidence of above-average court vision or basketball IQ.
A good point guard should not only know where everyone is on the court, but where they’re supposed to be, and where they’re going to be.
Has any basketball analyst ever praised this guy’s court vision? Can you give me a specific example in a summer league or college game where his court vision impressed you? Because I can, if I try, find a few examples of where it looks like all he’s seeing is what’s between him and the rim.
The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.
by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 12, 2009 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A specific example
Evans drove the lane late in the game and located Landry in the corner for what was at one point the game winning three yesterday.
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by section214 on Jul 12, 2009 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Court vision or set play? There's a difference.
The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.
by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 12, 2009 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's no way of knowing it was a set play
I’m not saying that your concerns are not valid, but you wanted a specific example and I provided one. Set play or not, he found his man and made the right choice.
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by section214 on Jul 12, 2009 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What?
He looks for his own shot first, more often than not. We’re in for a season of Evans iso plays.
Once he starts ignoring Westphal’s offense in the regular season, I think you can make that claim. Until then, it’s just an attempt to reinforce your existing opinion (in my opinion).
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by otis29 on Jul 12, 2009 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What makes you think
That having Evans keep the ball in his hands most of the time isn’t going to be a key component of Westphal’s offense?
The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.
by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 12, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did he have the ball in his hands most of the time these couple games??
Honest question as I didn’t see any of them
by eduardo_m7 on Jul 12, 2009 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look at the shot attempts.
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by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 12, 2009 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s going to take a lot of shots, LPA is definitely right there. From the way they’ve used him so far, its been some running him down to the post, some pick and roll with a big guy and some “offense” that I just don’t know what they’re running.
I haven’t seen the classic Kings backdoor, Princeton-style offense, but in fairness, that offense isn’t getting put in, in two days of practice.
I fear for LPA’s sensibilities, because I think there is going to be more “normal” NBA style offense, but I don’t think we’ll do it exclusively, except maybe at the end of games.
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by ForThree on Jul 12, 2009 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Summer league is a different animal
Marco Bellinelli is a star, Adam Morrison has new life, Quincy Douby is leading the Raptors. Too much spotlight on an off-Broadway stage. Pre-Season is in October.
by betweentheeyes on Jul 12, 2009 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honest Answer
Yes. Evans ran the offense every time he was in.
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by Aykis16 on Jul 12, 2009 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's just it
I don’t know! Westphal isn’t coaching summer league.
You are just putting the horse way before the cart here IMO.
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by otis29 on Jul 12, 2009 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The horse belongs before the cart.
Just sayin’.
But if Evans is not currently being coached to play another style of basketball, which either he isn’t or he is and ignoring Coachie, then can you not safely assume that this is the style of basketball his coaches want him to play during the regular season?
The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.
by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 13, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The horse still needs to be attached
I think? I’m really more of a city boy, to be honest. :)
I don’t think we can assume anything at this point. I’m not sure there are any expectations on these guys other than to get their feet wet, get comfortable with their teammates, and take some basic instruction. Westphal’s been coach for a short time, Evans has been a King for a much shorter time. To expect that there is anything resembling the permanent offensive structure we will see in the regular season strikes me as…unusual?
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by otis29 on Jul 13, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure my voice is louder than LPAs
and fear I will be shouting the same thing, the same I constantly shouted at JSalmons.
PGs are supposed to get everyone involved, ‘make everyone else better’ as is too often said (though I’m not sure everyone agrees on what that means). Now if he can be JSalmons with a desire to pass the ball before 20 seconds are off the shot clock, he may be OK.
Ball dominant players better be great or the team will not be succeed.
I think all this acclaim today and all my and LPA’s doubts are almost certainly premature.
My biggest concerns over those first two games are Donte’ and JT.
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by lietothegirls on Jul 12, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey lttg
did you see Quincy Douby is leading the Toronto Raptors with 18.5 ppg and .583 FG% against the Pistons and Lakers?
My biggest concerns over those first two games are Donte’ and JT.
by betweentheeyes on Jul 12, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last year's summer league MVP Jerryd Bayless would like to have a word with you before more superstar comparisons come up:)
If you want to trade our spare parts for Devin Harris, I have three quarters I would like to trade for your dollar
by Norsktroll on Jul 12, 2009 8:28 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
How dare you
This is StR, home of inflated expectations!
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by Exhibit G on Jul 12, 2009 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That works both ways though
he may not perform this well in the regular season because of the talent he’ll be playing against, but at the same time he’ll be surrounded by better talent as well. His point and rebounds might be less, but assists should go up or stay about the same
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by vfettke on Jul 12, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not saying he is a bad player (neither is Bayless), just that summer league means very little
Last night Mavs pick Beaubois dropped 34 and 8 assists on the Rockets SL roster, incl. some very long threes. While he is a nice pick with potential, it’s still unlikely he will push Jason Kidd out of the way in training camp who never got that many points last year.
Tyreke will get a lot of time to show what he can do next year for the Kings. And there was little doubt he is ready to be an NBA player, no matter who was passed up to get him. More so if he is a 2 or a 1.
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by Norsktroll on Jul 12, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a quality comparison
I was more discussing styles. But I see how that could be misinterpreted.
by Ziller on Jul 12, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
TZ - can you address what looks like a very new style for the Kings, albeit it is Summer League
I am seeing a lot more inside game. Evans of course, but Dontè is tying to post low, Boo-yah Brockman has no choice, Casspi is a slaher, Thompson is a low post scorer, Hawes has some nice hook shots and low post moves.
Do you see these newer, tougher Kings as less of a jump shooting team?
by betweentheeyes on Jul 12, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thompson is not a low post scorer
by passionforPERPS on Jul 12, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am talking about Jason Thompson
not John Thompson or David Thompson
by betweentheeyes on Jul 12, 2009 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jason Thompson is not a low post scorer
That was clearly evidenced last year and during his 2 games in the summer league. He looked much more comfortable facing the basket and shooting jumpers.
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by Aykis16 on Jul 12, 2009 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If by low post scorer you mean...
a guy who gets second chance and hustle points in the paint than sure your right and our argument is semantically based. If you mean a low post scorer as in someone who you can throw the ball to in the post and let work, he most definitely is not a low post scorer. He moves way too fast and cannot use his left hand, not even at point blank range, not even on a dunk. I wouldnt be averse to him becoming a low post scorer but as of right now hes disgusting to watch in the post.
Just to further understand where youre coming from, i have a question of curiosity, Was Webber, in your estimation, a low post scorer?
by passionforPERPS on Jul 12, 2009 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes most assuredly
Rookie CWebb and for the first 2/3rds of his career – injured less mobile Webber was too fond of the elbow jumper.
CWebb’s “go-to” move was his little jump hook.
by betweentheeyes on Jul 13, 2009 12:12 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
My oppinion,
CWebbs go-to move was lowering his shoulder and getting called for the charge. As for a jump hook, i dont remember him having much of one. I thought his best moves were taking his man off the dribble, running the floor, and of course the elbow juumper that he fell in love with….but that of course is coming from my stoney memory.
by passionforPERPS on Jul 13, 2009 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ive been watching youtube clips
and i cant find a single jump hook. He had spin move he used in the post like i said he usually lowered his left shoulder resulting in a charge. Are you sure youre not confused…Webber was the black one Vlade was the white one.
by passionforPERPS on Jul 14, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uhm...
C-Webb had a nice little jump hook that he used fairly regularly. Moreso before he started relying on that 15 foot jumper so much.
Are you sure you’re not confused? The Kings are the team with the word “Kings” or “Sacramento” on the front of their jersey.
by otis29 on Jul 14, 2009 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
give me a link of video footage
bc right now his jump hook is in the same class as Big foot and the loch ness.
by passionforPERPS on Jul 14, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good grief...how old are you?
You’ve got a couple of people here telling you they have seen C-Webb make the jump hook. I shared a season ticket package with another guy all through the Kings glory years, so I’ve witnessed it plenty of times.
Tell you what, Mr. “You Tube or it didn’t happen”. Read these:
http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1106926/index.htm
"If he could accept not being the focal point, then he could help an established team. He can still make the jump shot, he can pick and pop, he has that little jump hook, and he’s still one of the best-passing big men in the game…
http://armchairgm.wikia.com/Chris_Webber
When in the low post, he can still score a little with his jump hook.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/nba/pistons/2007-01-22-book-on-webber_x.htm
Go-to-move: The jump hook. He gets position on the block, puts the ball on the floor one time going toward the basket and then flips it in over his shoulder.
http://www.ibiblio.org/craig/draft/1993_draft/scout/pf.html
His post moves consist of a right-handed jump hook.
http://www.nba.com/games/20070507/CHIDET/recap.html
"Webb was great,‘’ Billups said. "He shot his jumper without hesitation and his jump hook was unstoppable. That’s the Chris Webber I’m used to, and that’s why he’s here.’’
Oh my, all these people hallucinating!!
by otis29 on Jul 14, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He never developed a low-post game, so he’s an inconsistent scoring threat in the clutch. He’s a bunch of numbers and a great quote.
In your second link the very next sentence is,
Works best out of the high post.Between the eyes called the jump hook his go to move.
Your fourth link is a college scouting report, real reliable stuff man but it does go on to say,
His post game is not tremendously refined. By comparison with a Juwan Howard, his footwork needs work, and he could develop a few more moves. Webber’s “problem” has been that he is able to get by with great strength and quickness, and hasn’t been forced to develop his low post game
Billups and basically every NBA player is complimentary of other players, even if theyre making it up. Case in point Tyreke Evans was saying that playing with Kevin Martin it doesnt matter who brings the ball up, uhh riiiiight.
And maybe it was hyperbole when i compared him to the loch ness and big foot but the point is he wasnt a low post player and the jump hook was not his go to move.
Im 23 and how old are you sir, maybe its time for you to get your eyes checked again.
by passionforPERPS on Jul 14, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
23? Wow, you must know a lot about C-Webb.
Listen you dope, I didn’t make the claim that Webber was some elite low-post scorer, nor did I say the jump hook was his “go-to” move. I was just rebutting your dumbassery that he didn’t have that particular shot. Perhaps you should get your reading comprehension checked AGAIN.
And sorry, busting out Jason Whitlock doesn’t help your case IMO. You are Stephen Freaking Hawking compared to Jason Whitlock.
by otis29 on Jul 14, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
Solely because I would have thought it impossible to incorporate Stephen (Freaking) Hawking and Jason Whitlock in the same sentence.
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by section214 on Jul 14, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who needs to check their reading comprehension
I said, “Between the eyes called the jump hook his go to move” And between the eyes said “Yes most assuredly” Webber was a low post scorer.
Did you read the convo from the start, do you realize it started as a discussion about jason thompson? My favorite part is i didnt even have to look up links because yours did all the work for me, so go ahead and disregard Whitlock, i dont give a fuck. And you would not speak like that to my face so i hope it felt good saying it to your computer screen.
by passionforPERPS on Jul 14, 2009 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahhh
So clichéd.
And you would not speak like that to my face so i hope it felt good saying it to your computer screen.
Right back atcha.
by otis29 on Jul 14, 2009 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
youre the one doing the name calling,
did i call you a dumbass or a dope?
by passionforPERPS on Jul 14, 2009 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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weve chatted long enought i feel comfortable enough to meet you now.
by passionforPERPS on Jul 14, 2009 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why so quiet Otis,
as soon it gets real youve got nothing to say? Like I said, i hope it felt good calling your computer screen names.
Otis, why wont you call me?
by passionforPERPS on Jul 15, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't need to be a PG to be a playmaker
Hey, if Tyreke evolves into a playmaker the way LeBron is a playmaker — drawing double teams and kicking it out to our shooters on his way to 5-10 asts a night, I’ll take that any day. And I think he can become that kind of player, regardless of whether he’s a true PG or not.
by elfboy_ on Jul 12, 2009 9:07 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Tyreke Evans: PG (Power Guard)
maybe the Kings found themselves a different but still effective way of playing the point guard position. using football as an analogy, Tyreke can be like one of those scrambling quarterbacks (Cunningham, K Stewart, Vick) that can hurt the defense with their running abilities.
put me in, Coach
by LaBradford on Jul 12, 2009 9:23 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
meaning that he’ll help our offense with his ability to get to the rim attacking the basket, not just passing to other players all the time.
put me in, Coach
by LaBradford on Jul 12, 2009 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cunningham, K Stewart, and Vick,
shit man, whens the last time you watched football lol?
by passionforPERPS on Jul 12, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'd add
that he finished the game with 5 assists, but he could have finisched wih 10 or more, just considering all the times that very good assists have been ruined by a foul on the shooter or by several airballs
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by Panzerfaust on Jul 12, 2009 9:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That's definitely true
Assists should go up with the quality of teammates.
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by Aykis16 on Jul 12, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like a great endorsement!
I’m kind a glad Sacramento didn’t go with Rubio. That kid is too much drama.
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by daddydai on Jul 12, 2009 10:13 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He also didn't play basketball for a whole month
That should never be the case when youre a pro ball player.
Not that he won’t be a good player, but I like our guy.
by sdfd on Jul 12, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A couple o' thoughts...
First, we must remember that this kid is 19 years old – while he may not be a “natural” point guard, it seems that he has some tremendous point guard skills and could become a physically dominant player (if he isn’t already). Give him some time to learn (like a couple of years) and he could become a beast at the most impactful position on the floor.
Secondly, the defensive potential of Evans really is exciting. The last top flight defender that the Kings had at the point is…??? Particularly when you consider that Martin is a smallish 2 and an average defender at best, this pairing could really be just what the Kings need defensively in the backcourt…
by Mcamp49 on Jul 12, 2009 10:14 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Can we stop with all the Rubio bashing?
Maybe he hadn’t played in a month because a doctor told him not to (let the wrist fully heal)? Maybe he’s being a “drama queen” because he has to pay a lot of money to go play NBA ball in Minnesota, where they also boneheadedly drafted Flynn?
The point is, I get the feeling you’re being critical of Rubio because we didn’t draft him and you’re trying to make yourself feel better about it. You should let ’Reke’s play make yourself better, and if it doesn’t, then maybe we should’ve drafted Rubio.
I really like Evans and am glad he’s here, but I still my reservations about using him at the point. I also understand that he’s probably a better all-around player than Rubio. It’s fine. Time will tell.
But, I get the feeling that if we had drafted Rubio, he’d be playing for us in summer league, making sweet passes and you would all be so happy we got him in the draft. Instead you guys are ripping on him for not being picked by the Kings. It comes off as being insecure.
We got ‘Reke. That’s cool. Be happy. But don’t give the Spaniard grief.
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by PhutureKings on Jul 12, 2009 10:25 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
With Phuture
Don’t agree with every single thing you said but I’m tired of the Rubio bashing too. I was on the Rubio camp all along but now we have Tryreke and I’m behind the fuy 100%. Why the need to bash Rubio now? He’s not here. If we would have picked him he would be in Vegas right now because he wanted to play for Sac so saying he would’ve been trouble is plain stupid… he WANTED to play in Sacramento.
Just leave it alone people. I wish Rubio the best when he comes to the league but he’s not a King; Reke is, and that’s what I care about
by eduardo_m7 on Jul 12, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have no reservations about Reke at the point, Phuture
But I agree 100% with the rest – rec’d.
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by section214 on Jul 12, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When driving...
…he does remind a little of LeBron. It’s kind of a violent. Lots of quickness, but also a lot of contact, and a will to get to the rim.
by R-Man on Jul 12, 2009 10:56 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Violent
That’s the right word. His game is like death metal.
by Ziller on Jul 12, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Death metal?
mmm…that may explain why I’m already in love with Reke Havoc
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by Panzerfaust on Jul 12, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Still you run, what's to come, what's to be?"
Inhale.
Exhale.
“Cuz we hunt you down without mercy. Hunt you down all nightmare long…”
"It would be my honor to be your new stepfather."
by PhutureKings on Jul 12, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
me, too....or just 'Havoc'
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by Holmdel on Jul 12, 2009 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Id say more metalcore
not enough speed in death metal.
by passionforPERPS on Jul 14, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I see alot of Lebron when he drives. This guy is going to spend some time at the line.
by FANofDUBS on Jul 12, 2009 11:39 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
that is still a "wait and see"
He is a rookie. He plays in the NBA. The NBA has referees. The referees don’t like to call fouls for rookies. Expect to see alot of charge calls on Too Easy.
by betweentheeyes on Jul 12, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speed and Violence
remembering that David Thorpe was hollering for Kevin and the bunch to finish with “speed and violence”.
Maybe Tyreke’s nickname can be “Violence” and then we’d have Speed and Violence in the backcourt.
put me in, Coach
by LaBradford on Jul 12, 2009 2:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I like violence
its better than “reke Havoc”
Phil Jackson, after treatment for a kidney stone "When the anesthesiologist leaned over me, he said "We named your kidney stone Kobe because it's not passing."
by Ellimist on Jul 12, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love "Violence" but it is a nickname that will subliminally...
…earn him more foul calls….
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by Holmdel on Jul 12, 2009 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And then, when his career is done, he can write a biography titled:
A HIstory of Violence
"It would be my honor to be your new stepfather."
by PhutureKings on Jul 12, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and follow it up with
Lord Of the Rings!
by betweentheeyes on Jul 12, 2009 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
is it sad
that i kind of expected JT to destroy at summer league and he didn’t? I just figured that because he played in all 82 games, and avg. 10+points last season that he would have an advantage in summer league. He didn’t look all that tough, i was looking to see some low post moves, you know a quick spin with the dunk, a head fake or two. But i saw him shooting a lot more than i wanted to. Did i just expect too much out of him
by shadowchicken on Jul 12, 2009 2:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
TZ, I'm in awe as much as you are
When I saw Tyreke in Gunnin’ For That #1 Spot (the Adam Yauch documentary), the first guy from a physical standpoint that I thought of was LeBron. Tyreke’s just bigger and stronger than everyone else at his position.
I can’t wait for the Tyreke Evans Era.
by oldenpolynice on Jul 12, 2009 3:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Evans played very nicely yesterday
And I thought he did a good job as an initiator as well. He was definitely looking to pass a lot more, but his teammates either weren’t hitting them, or he’d pass to someone in the post who’d get fouled. It might not go down as an assist, but he deserves credit for getting the ball there.
Evans has probably been the only one to live up to expectations at Summer Camp so far. JT right now I’m disappointed in, Donte has been playing well defensively and showing better decision making (although he’s not all there yet), and Omri is surprising me left and right. Brockman is doing exactly what we thought he would.
Can’t wait till tomorrows game.
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by Aykis16 on Jul 12, 2009 3:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Evans v. Jennings.
- on our draft board v. #3 on our draft board.
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by Aykis16 on Jul 12, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone but Jennings
is all hype.
"Even when I’m old and grey, I won’t be able to play it, but I’ll still love the game." — Michael Jordan
Go Kings!
by Panzerfaust on Jul 12, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jennings was ahead of Rubio and Holiday? Doubtful.
Evans. Flynn. Rubio. Holiday.
"It would be my honor to be your new stepfather."
by PhutureKings on Jul 12, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aykis meant StR's draft board
We had Griffin and Rubio ties for #1, Jennings at 3 and Evans at 4
by eduardo_m7 on Jul 12, 2009 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also the Auto Format effed it up when I said #4 vs. #3.
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by Aykis16 on Jul 12, 2009 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great piece TZ
Just wanted to nominate “Easy Reke” as his new nickname.
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by pookeyguru on Jul 13, 2009 11:28 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
easy evans has the alliterativeness going for it
but its awfully close to Mike It Be Easy Beasley
by passionforPERPS on Jul 14, 2009 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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