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Sean May: The Out-of-Shape Ike Diogu/Currently Healthy Leon Powe

Remember the official StR Ike Diogu/Leon Powe comparison post? Sean May would fit into that. If he fits into anyth-- no, I'm not going to head down that road. We don't need this post to be 5,000 words.

All three power forwards have put up similar NBA numbers.

Player Pt/36 Off-Def-Tot Rebs/36 eFG% TS% PER
Diogu 17.7 3.6-5.3-8.9 .502 .577 16.1
Powe 16.3 4.4-5.9-10.3 .523 .594 17.6
May 16.3 3.2-6.5-9.6 .460 .511 15.6


May has the advantage of being one year younger than the others, and of being the best defensive rebounder of the bunch. (He has roughly the same career defensive rebound rate as Spencer Hawes, slightly better than that of Jason Thompson.) But he's not as efficient a scorer as Powe, nor is he as potent as Diogu.

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This is all to point out that there seems to be little advantage to taking May instead of Diogu unless Diogu is asking for more than the minimum or you have a hunch May's going to improve rapidly once he gets on the floor in a new situation. (That's not a far-fetched hunch. It's a bit hopeful, sure. But young players do improve, and May has only played 1,500 minutes -- the equivalent of a backup point guard's minutes -- for his whole career.) Further, there's really no reason to pay May or Diogu more than the minimum, assuming the other (the second choice) is available for the minimum.

(And once again, consider this an endorsement of Powe. Feel free to sign one of these other dudes, but strongly consider Leon now or when his knee is right. He's more than a charity case. He's an incredible weapon off the bench.)

By the way, the minimum contract for each of May and Diogu would be $884,881. Because of a somewhat bizarre rule in the CBA, the league reimburses teams for a portion of salary paid to minimum-salary players (in order to boost the prospects of veterans, whose minimum salary can reach above $1 million). So May or Diogu on a minimum contract would only actually cost the Kings $736,420 according to Larry Coon, although each would pull in $884,881.

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In seriousness...

I like this signing. Sean May, when in shape (if you’ve ever had a bad knee injury, you’d know how hard it is to get back to where you were afterwards) was a very efficient player almost immediately after college. This strikes me as a relatively low-risk, high-reward situation.

by Citadel 29 on Jul 17, 2009 5:53 AM PDT reply actions  

Maurice Taylor

Need I say more?

Phil Jackson, after treatment for a kidney stone "When the anesthesiologist leaned over me, he said "We named your kidney stone Kobe because it's not passing."

by Ellimist on Jul 17, 2009 6:08 AM PDT reply actions  

I've never liked Sean May

but if they could add him at a minimum salary, I’d have to admit that was a bargain.

by Charlieb on Jul 17, 2009 6:15 AM PDT reply actions  

Shelden Williams, take two?

Life is every mammal's journey from very very wet to very very dry.

by Holmdel on Jul 17, 2009 6:21 AM PDT reply actions  

Nothing wrong with a Shelden type of guy for the league minimum.

by sdfd on Jul 17, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

what does it matter?

This team just needs a backup big man. Shock and Hawes are supposed to be the future anyway. We get too worked up over these things.

by IDunkedOnceInHS on Jul 17, 2009 7:45 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

In that case

They should sign Powe AND Diogu or May.

Kings rule! (They are royalty - right?)

by dalt99 on Jul 17, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's what I was thinking

Wouldn’t that be great?

The future begins now...

by eduardo_m7 on Jul 17, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I wouldn't mind that at all.

I just wouldn’t want Powe to be the main target of the Kings search for a backup PF/C if he’s only going to be serviceable for a portion of the season.

by cabz on Jul 17, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sign one

I just hope the KIngs sign ONE of the three players. I would prefer Diogu then May but either one. Kings need a backup center and both could do that well enough for a couple million a year. I say sign the cheaper guy.

Kings rule! (They are royalty - right?)

by dalt99 on Jul 17, 2009 8:22 AM PDT reply actions  

No Long term deals

Just don’t sign May to a long term deal. Don’t need another possible Ralph Sampson on the payroll.

Kings rule! (They are royalty - right?)

by dalt99 on Jul 17, 2009 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

To me, Diogu seems to be the most talented

He has an NBA body, strength, and better offensive skillset than the other two. The thing that worries me about Diogu is what I remember Peaches mentioning about him on a radio broadcast one day: he had asked people from Diogu’s other teams why he wasn’t able to find any minutes, in spite of the fact that he works so hard in practice. Their answers were similar, in that he was a hard worker, but he had a difficult time either catching on to or understanding the various offensive and defensive schemes of each team.

I would still probably go for Leon Powe. He would be my choice if I got to pick, knowing his background of how hard he’s worked against all adversity that has come his way, as well as his success with the Celtics. The toughness and work ethic would be a great boost to this team, IMO, and he just fits into what the Kings are moving towards.

by kingsfan300 on Jul 17, 2009 9:57 AM PDT reply actions  

We still need a CENTER!

Unless Petrie can come up with a trade for a decent center, then fine, go ahead and sign May or Powe or Diogu. What’s the hurry?

by dbfish on Jul 17, 2009 10:07 AM PDT reply actions  

this tells me that the Kings are not finding any big man prospects in the VSL

and so are looking – particularly in the case of Sean May – far and WIDE.

by betweentheeyes on Jul 17, 2009 10:24 AM PDT reply actions  

What shape is he in?

Is he close to full fitness, or is he basketball shape (a.k.a round)?

by elfboy_ on Jul 17, 2009 10:39 AM PDT reply actions  

not only is he out of shape but this guy if often injured and has barely played competitive basketball for the past couple of years… the sport he should be participating should be that hotdog eating competition where he challenges joey chestnut and kobayashi…

by pakyubai on Jul 17, 2009 11:00 AM PDT reply actions  

I'd like to see

Ike and an outsider that can legitimately play center signed. None of these three is a center. Given that both our starting PF and C seem to have a penchant for fouling early and often, we absolutely need another player who has the size to match up with average NBA centers.

What about Aaron Gray? I hated him at Pitt, but I think he’s a pretty legit backup and Chicago already has Miller, Noah, and Jerome James on the payroll. I doubt they’d be willing to match much of anything.

by furious.d on Jul 17, 2009 11:14 AM PDT reply actions  

I think if Geoff Petrie liked Ike, he'd still be here. BUT HE'S NOT.

Oh, wait, everyone in here is a better judge of talent than our GM now, right? If Petrie – and the coaches, who are certainly there during the workouts – decide a player is the best way to go, I’m not going to suggest that IKE – never done crap in this league – DIOGU is better than Sean May. “Oh wait, Ike Diogu had 2 good games last year,” you say? So what!?! Every player has the chance to go off in this league, doesn’t mean we should sign them. Gah!!

by Citadel 29 on Jul 17, 2009 11:31 AM PDT reply actions  

Who is this strawman you are arguing with?

If you’re not interested in commenting on the Kings without Petrie’s blessing, no one is making you.

by discocricket on Jul 17, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't even know where to begin with this comment

Just because the Kings didn’t exercise the option to extend Ike for more than his market value doesn’t mean that Petrie doesn’t “like” Ike. Since GP isn’t a regular contributor to this site, we can’t exactly solicit his opinion and we have to discuss our own. I don’t see anyone here suggesting that if the Kings choose May over Ike or anyone else that we should boycott the team or something. And please don’t suggest that Sean May, who has played a total of 82 games in his four years and is coming off the worst season of his career, is somehow more proven than Ike Diogu. They’re both longshots as quality contributors. But it’s July, so that’s what we’re talking about.

by furious.d on Jul 17, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

2 good games?

He’s scored 15+ points in 21 games and has had 6 double-double games in extremely limited minutes (in only 8 games has he played more than 30 minutes) in his career.

Compare him to Shelden Williams: He’s scored 15+ points in five games. 12 double-doubles. 11 games where he’s played over 30 minutes.

Leon Powe: He’s scored 15+ points in 18 games. 11 double-doubles. 9 games where he’s played 30 minutes or more.

Kings rule! (They are royalty - right?)

by dalt99 on Jul 17, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good info, dalt

Never forget: I am a complete idiot

by Exhibit G on Jul 17, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn't he already play for the Kings?

Oh, that was Oliver Miller. I almost forgot.

Sean May = The Big O II

There is zero risk here. I doubt the Kings lock him down to much of a contract and there isn’t much of a market for him. Guys coming off of injury with weight issues that haven’t played serious ball in a couple of years don’t really command much.

Best case is that he is recommitted and in shape and can provide 15-20 minutes a night off the bench. Worst case is he signs, gets killed in camp repeatedly and is sent packing. Zero risk here.

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by The Czar on Jul 17, 2009 12:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Worst case

We sign him, he spends more time at Krispy Kreme then at the gym. Then blows out his knee the first time he jumps in a scrimmage.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom

by HighTops on Jul 17, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

If the Kings want an undersized big man to sit on the bench

don’t they already have one? Perhaps if Powe is injured until January the Kings can utilize Thomas until that time and then go back to referring to him as KTEC.

by betweentheeyes on Jul 17, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I'd go Powe

And have KTEC play until Powe returns. It could make Thomas’ stock increase, and if not his value remains the same and Kings fans become so much more grateful for having Powe on the team. Bit of a win-win in my opinion.

"Greed is the inventor of injustice as well as the current enforcer." - Julian Casablancas

by submison on Jul 17, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

1 plus 1 minus

if we sign Powe now, but he doesn’t try to play until half way into the season, then his contract is guaranteed. If he can’t play then all we have is Thomas. We waste a lot of money but are guaranteed another top 5 draft choice.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom

by HighTops on Jul 17, 2009 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

3+1=4

Whither the Big Baby?

by MC_Welk on Jul 17, 2009 12:40 PM PDT reply actions  

THANK YOU!

All three of those guys are good.

…well, May’s good when he’s in shape. Which isn’t all the time.

But still… Some team is going to be very, very happy with Powe. And I actually wrote a blog post the other day about Diogu – it’s crazy to me how he’s toiled at the end of the bench for so long. I really, really hope that May can remain healthy/fit enough to help the Kings (or wherever he ends up signing).

by Vittorio De Zen on Jul 17, 2009 12:44 PM PDT reply actions  

When has Sean May ever been any shape other than round?

I think they should definitely sign him if he’s as cheap as discussed here, but don’t hold your breath waiting for him to get in shape and contribute anything significant.

by Charlieb on Jul 17, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd rather have Powe than Diogu or May

Because Powe has the heart. Diogu and May haven’t really showed they have the heart.

Father of the "Natt this!" movement and Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order.

by Aykis16 on Jul 17, 2009 3:54 PM PDT reply actions  

nonononono

Sign and trade Noce and Beno and a second rounder to Lakers for Odom on a 2 year deal player option for 3.

by Ice_9ine on Jul 17, 2009 6:25 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

They wouldn't give Odom $10M

Why would they give Noc & Beno $13.5M

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom

by HighTops on Jul 17, 2009 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Odom wants at least 4 years from the Lakers

that would be 5 years from the Kings. Not going to happen.

by betweentheeyes on Jul 17, 2009 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

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