Amick: Sean May close to becoming the newest Sacramento King
I wouldn't mind it at all.
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The article doesn’t report that Sean worked out for the Bulls on the 16th.
Kings rule! (They are royalty - right?)
You know I mentioned Barkley wouldn't talk about us this year
If anyone nationally mentions Sacramento it will simply be to crack a Sean May fat joke. Sorry for not drinking the kool-aid on Sean May but he’s been drinking all the kool-aid.
Really, what’s the upside of a so called professional basketball player who was deemed to fat, out of shape to play basketball? Ya, he is going to turn it around! Lets just call LA and get Adam Morrison while we’ve lost our mind.
Just say No. Even at minimum price it still involves Sean May simply getting fatter on the Kings bench. Things are depressing enough so now lets watch a guy eat himself out of the league.
Well
Maybe it’s part of the King’s strategy, let him get so large that opposing players get stuck in orbit around him as they try to drive the lane against him.
And on the bright side, think about the local restaurants, how could they NOT want a Sean May in town? It’s a win-win!
To Restaurants, he's an Economic Stimulus Package!
What a cool nickname! ESP! ESP!
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by elfboy_ on Jul 17, 2009 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I do agree
Half of his minimum NBA salary would go into the pockets of the local restaurant owners. At least that is positive. Any word if he is a good tipper?
His "highlights" will be shown on ESPMmm
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by PhutureKings on Jul 18, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
You bring up an interesting point about Barkley
Sir Charles is kind of a big guy his self. Maybe he’s feel sympathetic about May and talk about the KIngs more often whenever May gets into the game.
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Funny.
Sorry for not drinking the kool-aid on Sean May but he’s been drinking all the kool-aid.
Ha. Thanks for that. However, I do think it’ll be a great deal if May psychologically turns himself around and plays for his career. If he doesn’t, he’s an idiot. All fatty Truffle Shuffle jokes aside , I’m actually hoping he succeeds for the his sake and the King’s sake.
The good ol’ Truffle Shuffle.
No car flags necessary.
If the reason we sign Sean May
is that Ike Diogu and Leon Powe are either asking for more than a year or more than the league’s minimum, I’m ok with it. But I’m sort of irked that we do not have a backup center. May’s only 6-9 and Brock is only 6-7. JT could play Center but that’s a bit out of position for him.
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Maybe Mikki will sign for the league Minimum?
None of the guys being talked about (May, Ike, Powe) are going to work at Center. And, the Kings know it. And, I don’t believe that JT is their plan as far as a backup center. At least I hope not. So, I look to see one more big acquisition.
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I don't think the Kings want Mikki
even at minimum. You don’t re-sign guys you gave the finger too.
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And the guy has an aversion to rebounding
Which seems to offset any height advantage.
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by My Losing Season on Jul 18, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Here is a current video of Sean May
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzQwNKIjtyc
he starts at the :26 sec mark, he can tell he lost alot of weight and his jumper not that bad
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He looks pretty fit…not NCAA Champion fit, but fit.
No car flags necessary.
If only ..
… you could sign college players. I believe that was Tyler Zeller, but don’t quote me on that.
Gah. Still don't want Sean May.
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Need a backup center more
TRADE FOR FESENKO.
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Heh. It works with DG.
Not sure if Utah would want DG though. Maybe if the Kings showcase him a little bit this season without sacrificing potential wins.
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No car flags necessary.
You only need to trade a future 2nd rounder for Fesenko
Don’t want him for more. Unless we sign May and trade him for Fesenko.
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I'm not sure
that Utah gives him up that easily. He is making only $870K. As they press towards getting down to the cap, he is an asset, not a detriment. They have to have 13 players under contract. If they deal him, they would probably have to sign someone else, at a minimum of $442K. If all Utah stands to gain is a future 2nd round pick, they may have chosen just not to re-sign him.
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We could sign and trade May for Fesenko.
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But where is the benefit for Utah?
It would be a virtual wash for Utah financially, and the toss in of a 2nd round pick takes me back to my comment that Utah probably would have just let him go as opposed to going through all of this trouble for a 2nd round pick.
Now, I could see them tying Fesenko to Harpring’s expiring, as that would save them some jing (I think Harpring makes $6.5 million this year) if they could pull of a deal like that with a team with enough cap room that they wouldn’t have to send salary back (Sac, OKC, Memphis). But would a financially challenged team like the Kings take on all of that extra salary just to land Fesenko?
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I don't know.
Personally I think Utah only kept Fesenko because they thought Okur and Boozer would opt-out ( I think it was expected Korver would stay). Now they’re in a bit of a pickle, and trading Fes for a 2nd rounder saves them about 1.8 million (Fes’s salary of 870,000 + being in luxury tax). And I think they do end up dealing Boozer and getting a couple people in that deal, and if its Miami, one of them is probably going to be Haslem.
Personally, I think the Kings have contacted Utah about Fesenko (Levien was his agent after all) and Utah is waiting to see what they can get for Boozer first. The Kings and their cap space still might end up getting Fesenko or something in a possible multi-team deal as well as maybe cash and picks if we’re taking back salary.
So we’ll see.
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Good point
If they deal Boozer and get enough bodies in return that they don’t need Fesenko to fill a roster spot, then you are absolutely right. But if they deal him and have to turn around and sign someone else to fill that roster spot, the net savings would be about $430K ($860K if every dollar is over the cap). That’s not nothing, but that’s not much.
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Agreed
I think Utah is focusing on trading Boozer. And all the under-the-cap teams have probably been contacted, and that includes Sacramento. We’ll see what happens soon I think. If we end up signing May, that might show we’re not going to be involved. But if we don’t, then perhaps we’re waiting for something else.
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Also
They’re not likely to be over the tax line with all the expiring contracts they have now.
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well, he eats like a King
might as well sign him up
by MTBalla on Jul 18, 2009 6:42 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
I am willing to have anyone with decent talent for the minimum salary.
It has little drawback for the Kings. I think the Kings are willing to sign those other big men if they are willing to accept decent salary parameters. If their requests are out of line with their talent then I would not want the Kings to sign them.
Seam May for the minimum is much better value than Ike Diogu for $3.9 Million (his qualifying offer amount.) I think Diogu has more upside at the moment but that upside is not worth 4 to 5 times the money.
Bleh
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My opinion
Signing Sean May for a one year minimum deal would be an excellent move. Someone has to fill out the roster, signing a player with May’s talent using the absolute minimum resources possible to do so is a solid move.
Its very likely this move won’t work, either May won’t be able to stay in shape, he’ll get injured or will prove he’s not an NBA player. But taking this chance on the possibility it will work, with this guy is the right move for us.
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well fat jokes aside
the guy has as much talent as the other prospects, has a good attitude in the locker room and on the floor, has been a (NCAA) champ, has been very well coached (UNC and Larry Brown), he has value as a veteran presence, even an injured one, and if he can stay physically fit with knees and weight he is as good an addition as the Kings can get for the league minimum.
As for Mikki Moore, I am sure the Kings don’t want him, but aren’t they paying him this year?
by betweentheeyes on Jul 18, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Low Risk, High Reward
I don’t see the problem with this either. If he doesn’t work out, then he doesn’t work out. No bigggy.
Or low risk, no reward
That’s his career track record so far. I’d rather give the contract to guy perceived as having limited upside who actually busts his ass to play basketball. Limited talent can contribute too, that kinda made the bench mob fun.
It's worth the league minimum alone
to have a guy on the roster whose nickname can be “The Burger King”
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Wow
does anyone have anything basketball related to say about him, besides that he’s fat?
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You mean other than that he has been the NBA equivalent of William "the Refrigerator" Perry?
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by My Losing Season on Jul 18, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
OK, the NBA equivalent of "Fat Bastard" then
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by My Losing Season on Jul 18, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
ouch!
the turtle comment keeps popping into my head. Yuck!
by betweentheeyes on Jul 18, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
After it is all said and done
One year at the minimum is a steal. My bet is that Diogu’s camp is looking for at least two years and a few million. If that is true, May is the much better value.
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I'm not thrilled with either
I’m hoping May picks Portland. But, that’s me.
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Agreed
I would prefer to see that roster slot go to someone with length (and the ability to apply it on the defensive end of the court). But if that guy can’t be had, I’m OK with May at minimum pay/term.
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it all comes down to timing and choices
May for one year at the minimum
Diogu for ? 2 years ? and ? pay (he had >$3M on the table as his hold)
Powe for ? 2 years? and more than the minimum
Is there anyone else available? not talking trades and Fesenko because that is not an option as far as anyone knows.
May is kind of, pretty much, what the Kings are looking for as a back up and he is available for as cheap and non committed as a player (with experience and some sort of promise in the skill department) can be.
by betweentheeyes on Jul 18, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Says who?
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by My Losing Season on Jul 18, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
please, just put the acturial table down
BMI –
Dontè Green – 24.5 (>25 = overweight, >30 = obese)
LeBron James = 27.5
Shaquille O’Neal = 31.5
Yao Ming = 26.9
Dwight Howard = 27.0
do you want to go to the NFL next?
can’t compare apples to apple pies
by betweentheeyes on Jul 18, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
BMI is not a good way to weigh fat
Michael Jordan at his prime was considered grossly overweight in BMI. Muscle weighs more than fat.
BMI was a 19th century social science experiment. Body fat though is forever!
Moving at the speed of molasses.
we are talking BMI
not IQ
sorry, just being mean in my attempt at humor…
by betweentheeyes on Jul 19, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
He's not fat, he's short for his weight
But that’s in his barefeet.
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by section214 on Jul 18, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
And the classic part of the 214 bargaining phase has begun.....
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Ha!
The five stages of a GP minimum contract signing.
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The five stages of a Sean May signing
1. Denial
2. Bargaining
3. Anger
4. Depression
5. A very large dinner
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by My Losing Season on Jul 18, 2009 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL @ 5 coming last
I would figure 5 would lead to 1-4.
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At least Sean May gets a twofer
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Yep. Agreed.
Money (and some hope of a little talent and a lot of heart) is the bottom line. I hope May plays his heart out to help us win and earn a fatter contract for himself. Damnit, the word ‘fat’ always seems to make it on here.
No car flags necessary.
Kenny Natt called
he wants the Kings to sign Sean May so he can play him the last two games of the 2009-10 season.
by betweentheeyes on Jul 19, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Aren't there any tall guys left in the NBA
we could sign? I mean, all the guys we’re looking at are all 6’8" or 6’9". The frontoffice does know that God made 6’11" & 7’ who have an instinct for rebounding too right?
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Simple question but I would love to know the answer
Maybe we haven’t realized it yet but there just isn’t that many 7 footers out there anymore (not just available, but in the league period). This is all assumption of course as I have no idea and have done no research but it would be interesting to get the ratio of 7 footers in the league to the number of total frontcourt players.
Like most people here, I believe we need not just another big man but a backup C, and usually when we think of a center we think height (and slow-motion). I just don’t know how many of those are still out there available.
The future begins now...
They're out there
You’re right that a true 7 footer is rare, but there are plenty of guys who have legit center size in the NBA. We were the worst team in the league and we had four of them at various points last season.
I’m short, so I always root for the little guy. But neither Brockman or May will ever be able to guard even a guy like Chris Kaman. We just need a body who can play competent defense with legit size for an NBA center. Rasho Nesterovic?
true enough. But aren't you looking forward to seeing Hoss Brockman
guard and be guarded by Hasheem Thabeet ?
by betweentheeyes on Jul 19, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
The Hawks used to just find the tallest guys they could find a bring them into camp. I’ve must have met 5-8 7’0 plus nobodies who have tried out for the Hawks.
I'm guessing they sucked
since the Hawks used to suck. I think the problem with most school systems when they get a big guy on the team is that they don’t teach them how to play. They recruit them into basketball, yet don’t bother to teach them anything about it. How many of us are guilty of the, “Wow, you’re tall. You should try basketball.” mindset even when we’ve never seen these tall guys do anything remotely athletic before?
But you have coaches who pull these guys into programs, and are horrified that they lack fundamentals, and outside of rebounding, don’t bother to teach them anything. And they don’t even teach proper rebounding, they just ask him to reach out and grab the ball, when proper rebounding requires excellent footwork for setting and evading a box out.
And forget about it on the offensive end. Now, it’s grab the ball, pass it to the smallest, quickest guy on the court who’ll speed down the lane and play 4 on 5. You’ll just amble up at your own pace. If you get to the other end before we can score, set up below the basket and collect the ill-advised shot our star SG or SF is going to jack up from 30ft falling away. Now go! I lament the death of the Skyhook. Please, someone, anyone bring back the Skyhook!
I feel, the poor development of big men in the game is the main reason why there are so few bigs who have good fundamentals in the NBA, and why the few guys who have size and strength make it so high on the draft board (D-Howard, Oden, Thabeet).
Moving at the speed of molasses.
Hard to teach someone when you know their only going to be around 1 year.
Mullens should have stayed in school. Hawes was an exception because of his family background. Thabeet is another exception because he never played before 4 years ago. So, he had to stay in college just to learn the game.
Most bigs didn’t start out playing being a big. JT was a guard. Very few learn low post skills or footwork in high school. They’re so much bigger than everyone else that they don’t need to and they’re coaches just feed them the ball down low, and let them beat up on the smaller guys on the other team.
The acedemics and fear of injury drive most bigs to leave college for the NBA long before they are ready. So, many get injured, that they go for the money before they get hurt. Look what happened to Blair. He ended up in the second round of the draft because of his history of injuries.
There’s a reason why kids aren’t allowed to pitch extended innings in little league. Their joints are still developing and they don’t want them to do themselve harm. No such protection in basketball. A high school kid grows 6-8" his junior & senior year and all everyone wants to see, is him jumping & dunking when his joints & muscles haven’t adjusted to the changes in his body.. It’s surprising more of them don’t blow out their knees.
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by HighTops on Jul 19, 2009 4:37 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd cuz it sounds like you spend time around a lot of young players
Even if you haven’t, it definitely makes sense to me.
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Rec'd
It wasn’t that long ago that kids were taught to throw nothing but curveballs in little league without knowing the long-term damage that it put on developing arms.
To be honest, it’s still taught too young to too many kids; just watch the Little League World Series sometime, and you’ll see 11- & 12-year-olds throwing nothing but hook after hook. How many of these kids are going to make it to the pros? Only a handful, and mostly position players.
There may be hope yet for better standards to be set in youth basketball, but winning will almost always beat out what’s best for the kids – especially with any level of notoriety (e.g. LLWS, AAU, HS, or anything televised on ESPN) – so I won’t be holding my breath.
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