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Is a Kevin Martin trade the best for Kings?


Hey guys, ive noticed Evans will be a great player in the NBA and has the potentials to be R.O.Y, a Superstar and an All-Star! We dont know if Evans-Martin duo would work out for us, so just incase, is Martin worth trading? If anything, i would trade him for a proven PG. Dont get me wrong, Martin is fun to watch and made us kings fans a reason to watch kings basketball no matter what. but if we want to be playing during playoffs, Martin is the best player with good value. Any trade ideas?

Martin for CP3??

Martin for Rubio? that would be fun to watch! Rubio-Evans..

Martin for Nash?..

Martin for Rondo???


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While you're at it

I think we should just trade him for Lebron.

by babasin on Jul 22, 2009 12:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That would just be crazy

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Jul 22, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think you were trying to say:

“iMO, that would just be crazy”

"Or, as Randy Jackson would say: Not feelin’ it, dawg."
-bench-blob- posting virgin.

by jjham15 on Jul 22, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

IMO

I was not saying that.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Jul 24, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ohh man

Here we go again

The future begins now...

by eduardo_m7 on Jul 22, 2009 12:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Feel free to point out where he is wrong ed :)

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Jul 22, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm done with that

I’ll jump on the opportunity to make fun of trolls though.

The future begins now...

by eduardo_m7 on Jul 22, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Better Question...

Foreigner or 14 year old? Or 14 year old foreigner?

by rbiegler on Jul 22, 2009 12:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I want a 14 year old with downside

Is that available?

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Jul 22, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Never gets old

The future begins now...

by eduardo_m7 on Jul 22, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's almost like "that's what she said", priceless everytime.

"Or, as Randy Jackson would say: Not feelin’ it, dawg."
-bench-blob- posting virgin.

by jjham15 on Jul 22, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I may be new here but...

…your post…is shit…carry on

"Never argue with an idiot, they'll bring you down to their level and beat you from experience"

by LaPrimeraLives on Jul 22, 2009 1:19 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You don't have to be of older StR vintage to notice it

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Jul 24, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Counting down to deletion...

Five-four-three…

From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.

by My Losing Season on Jul 22, 2009 2:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Paging Ziller...

From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.

by My Losing Season on Jul 22, 2009 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ahem

Never forget: I am a complete idiot

by Exhibit G on Jul 22, 2009 2:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I have a ?

Should I give more weight to the proposals that have more question marks behind them? Or is the one with two periods some sort of not-quite-an-ellipsis code that I should pay extra attention to that proposition?

I am, like, totally confused LOLZ

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.

by andy sims on Jul 22, 2009 5:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Punctuation...makes! the---post);

As: I"ve,= always/said?,!

Speling iz impotant to

And syntax forgot I to mention

oH yEah, And CApitAliZaTioN

From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.

by My Losing Season on Jul 22, 2009 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey Kings408, you forgot Kobe

He just won another ring. So, maybe the Lakers are ready for a change and would be willing to trade Kobe for Martin straight up. If not, we could always throw Woof in for some cap relief. (sarcasim)

by kwill on Jul 22, 2009 5:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

STOP THE MADNESS!!!

Enough of these fruitless trade banter. Please put some thoughts into your posts, Where is the sanity????

by RapnRodney on Jul 22, 2009 8:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Aaron Brooks and Tracy McGrady for Martin, Nocioni, and Greene/Rodriguez

by wayno on Jul 22, 2009 10:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I hate this crap

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Jul 22, 2009 11:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey, 408

You might have noticed the merciless crap you’re getting regarding your fanpost.

Fanposts like this, with no analysis, bad grammar, and a premise that has been done to death, are irritating. It’s why we hate it when someone joins StR and then fanposts on the same day.

Read the site for a while, post in existing threads a few times, get to know the people and the style, and what’s been discussed already before you fanpost. This isn’t SacBee’s comment section. People here are not casual fans.

Why on earth would the NO trade Paul? Or Phoenix trade Nash? I can kind of see the Rubio trade, because Minnesota probably won’t be able to keep him, but the salaries are a complete mismatch and a straight-up trade doesn’t work.

Consider this your constructive criticism of the day. And don’t do anymore fanposts until you understand the system, ok?

The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.

by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 23, 2009 7:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Why on earth would the NO trade Paul? Or Phoenix trade Nash? I can kind of see the Rubio trade, because Minnesota probably won’t be able to keep him, but the salaries are a complete mismatch and a straight-up trade doesn’t work.

I like the Peaches argument here—er, not to say that you are Peach-like but…you get my drift. All you need to add are some one liners, and somehow cut off all of 408’s rebuttals…And also get a co-host who likes to use a lot of big words in everyday language. Yeah!

by clicc916 on Jul 23, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Congratulations on learning how to do block quotes

But are you really going to defend this hopelessly vague and completely unnecessary fanpost?

And are you really going to compare my post to a Napear Rant? Seriously?

Because I thought I was being a lot nicer than most of the critics here.

Epic fail on your part, clicc.

The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.

by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 23, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

I learnz on the interwebby.

Sorry, didn’t mean to offend you there LPA…and no, I’m not going to defend this fanpost either.

by clicc916 on Jul 23, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right

Because comparing me to Napear is, in every sense, a compliment.

And if you weren’t defending 408, then what point were you trying to make? Because it’s not clear.

The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.

by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 23, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about

DON’T read the fan posts you don’t like? you take this shit way too seriously. waaaaaaaaaaaaay too seriously waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too

by AndyGatesFreeman on Aug 18, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey you know what?

I’ve noticed that stupid clueless moron turd assholes like you always pop up and want people’s opinions on your stupid pointless clueless moron turd asshole points. When we point out that you’re a stupid clueless moron turd asshole, you just get mad. Don’t take it so seriously.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Aug 18, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you add them together

That’s my age. (15 + 14) You can add, right?

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Aug 18, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But if you're curious

That is how I treat 14 year olds when they make stupid statements. What’s sad, and you should be ashamed of this, is that there are children of that age on here who make far more profound and useful statements than you’ve ever made.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Aug 18, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

and you know

we are talking basketball right? oh you didn’t know that? yes, this is a basketball blog. never say the word “profound” again when speaking about the way someone speaks about basketball

by AndyGatesFreeman on Aug 18, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're a fucking idiot

And that’s the most profound statement I could ever make about you.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Aug 18, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rules for Noobies (unofficial)

Rule #1: Do not post on your first day on StR unless you have something really intelligent and timely to offer.

Rule #2: Put some time and thought into whether your idea/question actually warrants a post, or whether it would be better handled in the comment stream of someone else’s post, or just dropped altogether (often an excellent choice).

Rule #3: Check your post for spelling, grammar, punctuation, capitalization, and syntax errors BEFORE you post it. A sloppy post is an invitation for serial abuse.

Rule #4: Do not be argumentative.

Rule #5: If you want to propose a trade or free agent acquisition, at least take salary issues into consideration. If you don’t understand why that’s important, don’t propose a trade or free agent acquisition.

Rule #6: DO NOT insult the intelligence of the StR members.

Rule #7: Maintain humility. Arrogance is earned.

Hope that helps.

From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.

by My Losing Season on Jul 23, 2009 10:35 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Point of clarification

These are actually more guidelines than rules. In fact, I generally try to adhere to them myself. Because to do otherwise is an invitation for mass derision.

From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.

by My Losing Season on Jul 23, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup

They are pretty good rules of thumb for everyone. I go through a very similar process when I’m writing a story.

Never forget: I am a complete idiot

by Exhibit G on Jul 24, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

From now on I'll call them "Guidelines"

So as not to send any newbie into a grammatically-challenged apoplectic rage.

Dude might want to try decaf.

From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.

by My Losing Season on Jul 24, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or Ritalin

From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.

by My Losing Season on Jul 25, 2009 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree re: #4

m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!

by JediLeroy on Jul 27, 2009 5:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is this the five-minute argument or the full half hour?

Palin: This isn’t even an argument.
Cleese: Yes it is.
Palin: No it isn’t, it’s just contradiction.
Cleese: No it isn’t.
Palin: There, you just contradicted me.
Cleese: No I didn’t.

Palin: Look, an argument isn’t just contradiction.
Cleese: Yes it is.

From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.

by My Losing Season on Jul 27, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

StR was built around argument

If it didn’t exist, I would have never lasted a day. And, I’m just one person.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Jul 27, 2009 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Arguing is one thing; being argumentative is another

In the first case you take a position and defend it. In the second, you’re looking to pick a fight.

But anyway, these are newbie guidelines. Veterans can argue and be argumentative all they want. It’s all part of the site interactions. My point is that new participants shouldn’t be swearing at people and picking fights right from the outset. We’ve seen it happen and it’s usually ugly and always ill-advised. When I joined, I just listened (i.e., read) and eventually I chimed in, but I was never looking to start a fight or argue with StR veterans—-and I’m still not. That seems like a very good philosophy for newbies.

From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.

by My Losing Season on Jul 27, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My point is that your guidelines work to an extent

But there’s a level that they fail on as well. What you suggest, quite honestly, is a slippery slope. I don’t want to enter the good/bad side of that, but that’s the honest truth. Having a strict set of guidelines is not StR. That’s what has made this community this community.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Jul 28, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Big difference.

A set of rules, or code, is a strict, do-or-die kind of thing. Like…

What we have here is guidelines. Follow them or be thought of as stupid. Or rude.

The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.

by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 28, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well they're your idiots now

I’m not correcting nobody or nuthing no more. I’m tired of that bullshit.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Jul 28, 2009 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This newbie versus veteran sentiment

really gets to me. It makes this us versus them thing that I dont want any part of. Sure we get some posts that come from casual fans and first-timers, but I would just let those be. They are real fans too. This is their site just as much as it is yours. I understand that you are partly trying to help improve the situation, but I think it will be far more helpful if is doesn’t come with so much condescention.

I appreciate the high level of conversation that happens here, but it is best when it’s tolerant of new-and sometimes bad-posts. I understand it’s tongue-in-cheek, but I disagree with Rule 7; arrogance isnt ever earned.

by DustyG on Jul 29, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm a relative newbie here too

There’s no way I can claim veteran status; I’ve only been a member since May. But it really bugs me when people toss up these sloppy, uninformative, and vacuous posts a few hours after joining the site. It kind of degrades the blog (temporarily), and it’s otherwise totally unnecessary and extremely presumptuous. Like the guy the other day asking about getting a Kings tattoo. Puh…f***ing…lease!

I am learning, however, that the really irritating newbies tend to be very short-lived, while the smarter ones seem to understand the “Newbie Rules” without even reading them. So maybe I’ll just scratch the whole educate-the-newbie thing. To some extent it was never more than an attempt at humor on my part (e.g., Rule #7). And anyway, some of the barrages that get unleashed against these hyper-lame newbie posts are downright riotous.

From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.

by My Losing Season on Jul 29, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh boy

gotta love the internet

by AndyGatesFreeman on Aug 18, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kings Fan no matter what!

ill write a post on whatever i want to post. whatever is on my mind, ill ask or put it out. Live life, fuck the rules. GO KINGS!

by Kings408 on Jul 23, 2009 1:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Then maybe

you should head over to sacbee.com.

by babasin on Jul 23, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Prepare to be deleted regularly

And then banned.

StR is more than a GO KINGS site. Which you should have learned before posting here, newbie.

The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.

by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 23, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Paging Ziller...

again.

From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.

by My Losing Season on Jul 23, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is awesome
Live life, fuck the rules

Can we get an StR shirt with that on the front?

The future begins now...

by eduardo_m7 on Jul 23, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm thinking that it might make appropriate prison wear

As that seems like the logical endpoint for such a sentiment.

From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.

by My Losing Season on Jul 23, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

YEAAHHHH!!

That’s like the other day when I wanted to put on a bicycle helmet and run into a brick wall as fast as I could. People said it was a stupid idea, but I did it anyway, cause fuck the rules! Except this one – KINGS RULE!!!

by Charlieb on Jul 24, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is your head okay?

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Jul 24, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't want to trade K$

But what if…and this is a HUGE if, Rubio sits out and the T-Wolves lose his draft rights and he falls right into our laps again. And we take him, So what do we do with Evans? K$ isn’t big enough to play SF he can barely play SG….I was just thinking about that what if David Stern said that it’s time for the Kings to have SOME type of luck, and this all happened. What would we do with K$? Would we package him with Cisco and Noc to hopefully get A big time SF such as, Melo (he has burned a lot of bridges in Denver, but he also played very well) Who do you think we can get?

by shadowchicken on Jul 27, 2009 4:16 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think

A lot more would be known between now and then (and I would eat my hat if Rubio sits out the season – you think his draft position dropped this season, just wait until he sits out a year).

Namely, we will all get to see if Martin and Evans can mesh as a backcourt. Talking of trading Martin is putting the cart way before the horse.

by otis29 on Jul 27, 2009 5:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Move on, guys

It’s like high school all over again.

October 28th couldn't come soon enough.

by JETisKing on Aug 19, 2009 12:43 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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