Looking for a Cheap Center
Sean May is not a center, and the Kings were thought to be bent on adding another center, therefore it stands to reason that the Kings may be looking to add a center in free agency. Even assuming Jon Brockman earns a roster spot (a virtual lock), the Kings could reasonably add one more guaranteed contract to bring the roster to 14. You wouldn't be surprised if the team stayed at 13, but again the team has been rumored to be concerned with center depth.
Barring trades -- and thus barring Kyrylo Fesenko, who to be quite honest has been a spectre of one Salt Lake City newspaper, which has only tied Fes to Sac by virtue of Fes's relationship with Jason Levien -- who can be had?
I'm inventing some parameters for this investigation.
* Age. Fabricio Oberto rumors aside, you assume the team would rather add a younger player than an older player.
* Reputation. No bad seeds needed, thankyouverymuch.
* Price. I urge you to have faith in my hunch the Kings will not be spending big for a back-up center.
All that said, here are the guys I'd place atop my heap.
Rod Benson
I remain amazed Rod Benson hasn't gotten an NBA shake. Maybe Bryan Gates will lobby for the D-League star. And I'm not vouching for him because he was born in my (quasi-)hometown, or because he's blog-friendly, or because he's Skeets-friendly, or because he's hilarious, or because he works out/lives in Sacramento. All those things help, sure. But he's a good player!
Benson is a killer rebounder on both ends (D-League marks of 13.6% on offense and 22.5% on defense, both of which are top 10 in D-League history). He blocks shots decently (3.5%). He know his offensive role (career usage rate of 18%, with an offensive rating -- that measures efficiently, or using your possessions well -- of 115). He's an efficient scorer, which is to say he knows his limitations and strengths -- he had a True Shooting percentage above 60% last season and shot 57% from the field last season.
He's a good player! He could help the Kings off the bench!
Also, there's something to be said for entertainment value, given the Kings situation. Fans love active players, both on the court and in the community. Benson is very active on the court (see that offensive rebounding percentage again) and I guarantee he'll add a ton of attention from the national sports blogs if he makes the Kings. I wish that were irrelevant, but it's not. (Hey, we argued for Ricky Rubio on somewhat the same basis, right?)
Sign Rod Benson!
Robert Swift
Swift has become a posterboy for the perils of the high school leap, and a huge victory for those who support the age limit. So, as an opponent of the age limit, I'd selfishly love to see Swift reformed. But more than that, he has the tools to be a solid contributor, if his brain and body ever cooperate.
Swift has been a strong defensive rebounder in his NBA career. In his most prolific season (a whopping 987 minutes as a 20-year-old sophomore in 2005-06), he tallied a defensive rebound rate of 21.1%. Last season, in 343 minutes, he improved to 23.2%. It's a small sample size, but when taken along with the earlier mark and the knowledge that the defensive rebounding of big men improves with age, it's a solid bet Swift could be a fine, fine rebounder given minutes.
Swift has also blocked a fair amount of shots in his time, with a career block rate of 4.4%. That age 20 season with his most minutes played, Swift 4.4% of opponent shots, compared with 3.1% for a 20-year-old Spencer Hawes last season. So at least in terms of rebounding and shotblocking, Swift figures to be a better defender than Hawes, which would seem to be a necessity for a back-up center.
The problem with Swift has always been that there is more than one problem. Swift is atrocious on offense -- both invisible and bad, if that can be believed. He has never shot frequently, tossing up only 8.8 FGAs per 36 minutes at age 20 (compared with 12.7 for Hawes last season). He hasn't been a complete turnover machine, even when considering his small role on offense. But that's more of a footnote than a plus: at this point, playing Swift would mean playing 4-vs-5 when on offense. Tyreke Evans and Kevin Martin are good, but they may not be that good, especially given the offensive problems at the two forward positions.
Further, Swift's knees have constantly been in terrible shape, and he has had extreme confidence issues ever since entering the league. He's a project who doesn't project to be a role player. But as with the 7-foot youngster, there's a reason he's available.
Mouhamed Sene
Sene has been a disaster in the NBA, Swift Part II. But he has racked up some handsome numbers in D-League play: strong defensive rebounding, stronger offensive rebounding, incredible shotblocking, and efficient scoring at the rim. A longer, less-likely-to-have-a-TV-news-camera-crew-staking-out-his-house version of Justin "3Wil" Williams.
One not negligible issue with Sene is that he is under contract with the Knicks for 2009-10. However, I'm not aware that it is fully guaranteed, and it is a minimum contract nonetheless, so Sene may in fact become available as a free agent sometime this summer.
Johan Petro
I'm addicted to failed Sonics draft picks! Petro has actually been the best of the three, but I'm not sure he can be had for the minimum salary. (Hence his placement.) He's also the type who values his offense more than he should, taking too many shots despite godawful efficiency marks. Petro isn't a shotblocker like Swift or Sene, and not nearly the offensive rebounder Benson is. A strong defensive rebounder, though. If you signed Petro, you'd need to immediately put him in a box and tell him to stop shooting the basketball.
Ryan Hollins
Brian McCormick brought up Hollins late Sunday. The Pacers were interested, but instead signed Atlanta's Solomon Jones (who definitely would have made this list). Hollins is most infamous for talking smack during last year's playoffs, something about Kobe. I don't know. I tend not to listen to smack talk from bit players. My specific issue with Hollins is that he is a terrible defensive rebounder, like truly awful. He's good on the offensive glass, but so, so bad on the defensive end. He blocks shots and knows his role on offense, but the Kings cannot afford another bad defensive rebounder. Sorry.
Paul Davis
Let's go with "ditto" for ex-Clipper Paul Davis, although Davis isn't even good at finishing around the rim. Boo.
*****
In conclusion, sign Rod Benson!
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Free Rod Benson
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
by Exhibit G on Jul 27, 2009 8:44 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
+1
Sugar ... water .... and, of course, purple.
by what_the_crap on Jul 27, 2009 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i read somewhere about the numbers of nbdl bigs not translating well when they head over to the nba.
by wayno on Jul 27, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Benson would be nice
I personally think teams haven’t wanted to sign him because of his blog. But for the Kings, more attention should be good attention. And he’s cheap.
Oh ya, also was looking at Fesenko’s twitter (hilarious by the way) and there was this tweet:
“okay now buy buy time. we only have not fast internet like in USA. hope be with Jazz soon next year. Jason Levin may talk with KOC”
That was posted May 5th.
For fun some other good Fes tweets (@THE_BEST_FES):
“Also jaron is wearing that velvet turtle neck again. He say gift from mother in law. I say it not gift, but punishment!”
“when does milk go bad in USA? how do we tell if it is bad? i need girlfriend to settle kitchen”
“TV says Shaq lose game to Porlann. Sad, no? Fes is biggest fan in all Ukraine of Shaq. Bad too that Porlann win. Dwill will be in bad mood”
“How to check if single utah girls want to twitter me?”
“Oh God I had such scary dream from my nap. I was being chased by alleygator and he turned into Mr COach Gerry. He reminds me of grandpapa.”
Father of the "Natt this!" movement and Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order.
by Aykis16 on Jul 27, 2009 8:54 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
This is kind of messed up but...
I can’t tell if those are his real tweets or a joke?
Neither would surprise me
www.mancancook.net
by vfettke on Jul 27, 2009 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought the same thing
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
by Exhibit G on Jul 27, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
twitter.com/THE_BEST_FES
Priceless stuff there.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement and Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order.
by Aykis16 on Jul 27, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's classic...
It’s almost better if you imagine it in a “Borat” voice.
“i need girlfriend to settle kitchen” — I guess Fes’s lady won’t ever be getting a nice watch as a gift…there’s a clock on the stove!
"It would be my honor to be your new stepfather."
by PhutureKings on Jul 27, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Fes Twitter page is an unauthorized spoof
I guarantee this twitter page is an authorized spoof. Is it really that funny to tease someone with an accent. His English, grammar and spelling are all really quite good both verbally and via the written word. Laugh knowing it is a spoof but know that he is extremely intelligent and would never write comments in the manner posted on that twitter page.
by go4jazz on Jul 27, 2009 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
An added Benson bonus
His middle name is “Zsorryon.”
Yeah, I don’t know, either.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Jul 27, 2009 9:04 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What about Joel Anthony?
Blogging Suns Basketball
by Phoenix Stan on Jul 27, 2009 9:06 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Seems to be a good shot blocker
But I think we need someone a little taller, since we already have May and Brockman.
by furious.d on Jul 27, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he already signed with miami
besides, no thanks.
Phil Jackson, after treatment for a kidney stone "When the anesthesiologist leaned over me, he said "We named your kidney stone Kobe because it's not passing."
by Ellimist on Jul 27, 2009 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm all for the Boom Tho movment in Sac
www.mancancook.net
by vfettke on Jul 27, 2009 9:30 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Pooking myself
While his blog may be an issue for some teams I see it as less of a problem for a team like the Kings who have been shown to embrace the use of the internet to provide access to Kings-related content via the use of Twitter and YouTube and even the Donte Greene Show.
www.mancancook.net
by vfettke on Jul 27, 2009 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would agree
if his blog wasn’t about guys trying to hook up with threesomes, getting drunbk, partying, etc. Totally understand that it happens and he is just telling things they way they are with a pretty funny twist. But that’s not exactly the image the Kings—or the NBA for that matter—are looking for.
"Shut up and Coach!"
Vfettke
by SavageBeast on Jul 27, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is a guy like Benson worth the risk?
It seems that most GMs think he is not (based on the fact that nobody else has given him a shot), so why should Petrie feel any different?
At best, he’s the kind of player that may be able to give 10-15 decent minutes off the bench. At worst, he could disrupt the locker room significantly with his writing. That’s not a risk I would take as a GM either.
by cabz on Jul 27, 2009 11:40 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I really dont think a blog carries the same risks anymore,
if Rod tells a bogus story the entire kings roster can tweet it didn’t go down like that. Times are a changing…
There now I've met the 75 word count. -pookeyguru
by moproblemz on Jul 27, 2009 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point
And besides, I’d honestly be a little surprised if he risked his NBA future by burning bridges with his blog.
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
by Exhibit G on Jul 27, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
Only if he’s a complete moron will he be unwilling to adapt his blog to an NBA franchise’s standards. What they’re probably more afraid of is him not having the ability/attitude to keep a spot on the roster, and then telling all after the fact. This is why we have lawyers.
by furious.d on Jul 27, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I see him speaking up after the fact as the most likely scenario as well.
However, are lawyers really enough protection there? Do most NBA contracts prevent you from badmouthing a team or exposing locker room stories after you’ve been canned? If they do, great.
In terms of being unwilling to adapt his blog to an NBA franchise’s standards, apparently GMs around the league either have no faith in his ability to do just that, they have no faith in his talent, or some combination of both. I haven’t seem him play since his Cal days, so I won’t presume to know which is the bigger issue, but I’m not a fan of taking a risk on a player that doesn’t offer much reward (even if things work out as well as we could hope for).
by cabz on Jul 27, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
first premise might be faulty...
Does a young team need more youth? Why not someone like Calvin Booth? I think a seasoned vet would be good for Spencer. None of the guys listed are even remotely likely to be a diamond in the rough, but someone who has a few years guarding the likes of Shaq, Yao (I know, not this year), Howard and the like might be better for the development of our starting center of the present and future.
by longtimelistenerfirsttimecaller on Jul 27, 2009 12:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Seconded
From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.
by My Losing Season on Jul 27, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thirded
I’m as excited about the youth movement as anyone, and at the price we are paying, don’t expect to bring in a game changer. But we really need to stop looking for the next young exciting guy and start looking for some inexpensive players to bring a little stability. B-Jax is a great example of a vet with smarts who can still play 15 solid minutes a night. Who is the B-Jax of centers?
"Shut up and Coach!"
Vfettke
by SavageBeast on Jul 27, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Veteran Yes
Calvin Booth? Don’t we want a player that can still walk?
by OrangeLazarus on Jul 27, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"like"
that’s why I said “like Calvin Booth.”
by longtimelistenerfirsttimecaller on Jul 27, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh and Robert Swift isn't a poster-boy
I went to the OKC game last season and with all that ink — that guy is a poster.
by betweentheeyes on Jul 27, 2009 1:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Why does Petrie have such a hard-on over forwards?
I was a little bit shocked that Petrie went after Sean May in free agency, when we didn’t even need him in the first place. The Kings have; JT, Greene, Noccioni, Garcia, Casspi, Brockman, K9 and May all filling up the forward spots. Who’s filling Center? Only Hawes.
by CloudyEyes on Jul 27, 2009 1:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Brockman is the #38 pick (in the second round) of the 2009 draft
He has played on the Sacramento Kings Vegas Summer League team. He is not signed as a member of the team at this point.
Makes you wonder if he is to be NBDL bound (I hope not, he does not seem to have a Developmental League favorable game). Perhaps he will spend the next two months getting stilts added to his frame (I think Wolverine uses adamantium – other fellow geeks can correct me).
Jake Voskuhl, Jarron Collins, Pops Mensah-Bonsu, Melvin Ely, Lorenzen Wright all UFA
by betweentheeyes on Jul 27, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+ 1 for Collins
Works for me
WordUpThome: I CANNOT BELIVE THAT THIS PRODUCT IS NOT BUTTER
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by Player To Be Named Later on Jul 27, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
risk worth taking...
I think the signing of Sean May has nothing to do with the roster and was deemed simply an inexpensive risk worth taking. If he reaches his potential, he will give JT a run for starters minutes… if he doesn’t, no long-term cost.
by longtimelistenerfirsttimecaller on Jul 27, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ryan Hollins gets my vote.....
A legnthy, athletic 7 footer who is still only 24.
"Nobody roots for Goliath"
Wilt Chamberlain
by Sactownking9 on Jul 27, 2009 2:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hollins is RFA
Dallas, in need of a back up C, will match.
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.-1984 George Orwell.
by tomkanti on Jul 27, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
amen to Rod Benson
He would be happy to back-up Spence and would play hard for his shot and be grateful. And he can play.
by Ice_9ine on Jul 27, 2009 2:17 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
NBA.com has him as 6' 10" and 225 lbs., is that an old stat?
If it’s current it seems a little small for a center. People here have been on Spencer to bulk up and he came in at 240lbs
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
by HighTops on Jul 27, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
his Wikipedia says 235lbs
But your right that is lite. We need a big dude.
Have I mentioned Garret Siler lately?
by Ice_9ine on Jul 27, 2009 3:38 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Not for a couple of days now ;p
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
by HighTops on Jul 27, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish they would look at Pops
Mensah-Bonsu
by Nick the Quick on Jul 27, 2009 2:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i think Toronto still has dibs on Pops
by Ice_9ine on Jul 27, 2009 3:33 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
his real height is supposed to be 6-7 or 6-8
by wayno on Jul 27, 2009 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's small isn't he?
I thought his game is more of a combo forward, albeit a rugged one.
by DustyG on Jul 28, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rod Benson
I have no idea who he is, but we should sign him just because of all the exclamation point you used.
by PurplePurple on Jul 27, 2009 3:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i would have signed Benson
Instead of May. And then one of these other centers too.
I hope May can be really good off the bench. Otherwise I am going to cry.
by Ice_9ine on Jul 27, 2009 3:41 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Hollins and Benson
Would be a good combo together for a few minutes off the bench, with Brockman on occasion for energy and the occasional MMA move.
by Ice_9ine on Jul 27, 2009 3:43 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I'm thinking
there’s probably no hurry to sign one of the NBDL guys; we could add Brockman to the roster and start the season with only Spence, JT, and our motley collection of “undersized” PF’s and see how it goes, then if we’re getting destroyed by every team’s backup center or if there’s an injury we could always sign some tall banger from the D-league during the season. The best ones may be taken by then, but is there really that much difference between a “first tier” and a “second tier” D-league Center?
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Jul 27, 2009 3:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
our motley collection of "undersized" PF’s and see how it goes
Even if JT & Spencer stop getting into foul trouble, become above average defenders, and continue to score like they did at the end of last season, they’re only going to play 34-36mpg. That’s 12mpg at the PF & Center position that needs to be filled. 12mpg that’s 1 quarter of a game. Most games are lost in a 5 to 8 minute offense run. Undersized PF’s and SF’s playing out of position are going to lose you a lot of games in 12minutes.
The Maloofs are desparate to fill seats, but exciting rookies will only be a draw for a few weeks if they don’t win. Maybe the FO has some plan, but I’m at a lose to see what it is. Every reasonable priced FA that they could have gone after is gone. Resigned or picked up by another team, and now only the dreeds are left. What was the point of trading Salmons & Miller for cap space if you’re not going to use it.
I’m finally losing my faith in GP’s ability to acquire players. I’m not sure if he just doesn’t see things as they’ll pan out down the road, or just spends too much time making a discision. Yea, he drafts well, but trades, FA signings, & contracts haven’t been his strong suit for many years now.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
by HighTops on Jul 27, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Salmons & Miller were traded to save real life dollars and to get them out of the locker room. The Kings never intended to spend any cap space beyond the minimum they need to. If you thought they were trading for cap space that would get used this summer, you were deluding yourself.
As for trades, free agent signings, etc this summer, I don’t see what there is to complain about. We were never going to spend more money than the bare minimum this summer, the Maloofs have no desire to trade for anything, because we’re not one or two steps away.
We need to get used to the situation; we’re going to be terrible next year. The best you can hope for is some move near the trade deadline involving the K9EC and maybe taking on money then if the economy is back and people are losing money hand over fist to the spoiled kids in their casinos.
Professional Hyperbole Slayer
by ForThree on Jul 27, 2009 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Hawes gets injured
The Kings will need a center who is ready to play, not a raw project who will be a liability on the court. That means adding a veteran. I don’t have a lot of ideas as to who that might be, but the Kings are living dangerously if they don’t add an established back-up center. Standing pat may work if no one gets hurt (especially Spence), but injuries happen; and right now we are paper thin at the center position.
From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.
by My Losing Season on Jul 27, 2009 4:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
if Hawes gets injured
Sean May or JT will play center until Hawes comes back. Why would we need an experienced center, we’re not going to win anything next year anyway? You’re talking about the difference between losing 65 games and 55 games, why should we invest in a legit backup at this point?
This is of course, besides the fact no one can name who this legit backup is right now. TZ came up with a list of names, if you want someone else you have to come up with a name, you can’t just say “center who is ready to play”, there aren’t many of those guys available, and the ones that are, aren’t coming here to lose 60 games for what we’re willing to pay (the minimum).
Professional Hyperbole Slayer
by ForThree on Jul 27, 2009 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're preaching to the converted on the "we’re not going to win anything next year anyway" front
I’m not suggesting the Kings invest significantly in a high-end back-up center. But if Hawes goes down and JT is the only other guy with center-like size on the roster, the Kings are in danger of getting absolutely crushed inside. Losing is one thing. Getting demoralized is another. Maybe they can get away with a bunch of undersized young guys manning the 5, but it seems like a very tenuous strategy. The Kings don’t need to win, but they do need to compete, or things are liable to get really ugly.
From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.
by My Losing Season on Jul 27, 2009 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Things have already gotten really ugly
Or, did you not observe last season?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jul 27, 2009 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes I did
And I’m hoping we don’t have a repeat because I don’t want to see the young guys get totally demoralized. The “we’re not going to win anything next year anyway” argument is valid on its face, but it is dangerous if you take it too far because it can lead to the entrenchment of a losing culture. The Kings need to be competitive this season even if they don’t win that often. I think they ought to be on the lookout for some veteran depth at the center position as an insurance policy against a Hawes injury followed by a parade of big men crushing the Kings inside. Shock can’t handle the job on his own, and I don’t Sean May, Brockman, and K9 defending 7-footers throughout the league.
From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.
by My Losing Season on Jul 27, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't ^see Sean May...
From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.
by My Losing Season on Jul 27, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
MLS
I would like to get a young project who can hold his own…like Fes…maybe one of those old Sonics centers…but I think you have a very good point and I think that if Hawes goes down for a spell we are at risk of starting (or playing over 25 minutes) a player who really has no business in the league. I’m scared.
by DustyG on Jul 28, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It only takes a 5 minute run to lose a game. So, be very scared
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
by HighTops on Jul 28, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Robert Swift
Swift is not atrocious on offense. He’s actually pretty capable, with good touch and ambidexterity. His low rate of field goal attempts isn’t due to a unwillingness to shoot but more a condition of never getting the ball. In Seattle, it was Ray Allen and Rashard Lewis and Ridnour and they weren’t giving the ball up to a pasty 19 year old kid. And in Oklahoma, it was the same story but with Durant, Green and Westbrook.
The problem with him besides the health issues is that he is awfully, awfully slow. Watching him run makes me feel like concrete is being poured into my brain. He’s sort of like Brad Miller but with less skill and much less confidence.
by Galeto on Jul 27, 2009 7:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't mind the KIngs taking a flier on Rod Benson
But, maybe the Kings do…….
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jul 27, 2009 8:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Isn't Rod Benson the guy from Best Week Ever on VH1??
I don’t think I want that guy
The future begins now...
by eduardo_m7 on Jul 27, 2009 8:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
At first I thought it was this guy
“You’re not big enough. You’re not sharp enough. You’ll never make it.”

He was great in One on One, the dude can ball
by betweentheeyes on Jul 27, 2009 9:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Free Rod Benson
or something (?)
I couldn’t agree more that we need a backup C. Getting crushed and worked over by 50 lbs is no way for a young player to learn anything
- ruins the concept of ‘they need minutes to get better’.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jul 27, 2009 9:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i’d look at signing luke nevill (undrafted) a training camp contract to see what he can do. he was on the hornets summer league team but didn’t get the minutes to be able to do anything.
by wayno on Jul 27, 2009 10:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
When you look at this team on paper...
…It looks like they need a backup center. There are several UFA centers available and I could see the Kings shelling out a bit of cash to bring in a veteran center who has logged some playing time in the league. Someone who has guarded the Shaq’s and the Howards of the league, and has held their own. We don’t need a young up and coming center. We need and established center who might be on the down side of their career and can contribute maybe 8-12 minutes off the bench. Someone who could come in, give Hawes a rest for stretches, and teach Hawes the game of working in the paint and getting after it defensively. Hopefully Petrie will be allowed to pick that player up for a vet minimum or maybe the bi-annual acception if we have one. Again, we don’t need an up and coming player. We need some vets on this team to help the young bigs to grow into their game
. I am really excited about Brockman. Everything I read makes me want to root for this kid. He gets after it defensively, and he pulls down boards. He doesn’t seem to take plays off like some young bigs do. On paper, our team is small. We really could use a nother 7’ player to play backup center only. I think we have enough PF types in JT, Brockman, and May. It would be best if the Kings could use K9’s (the pile of manure at the end of the bench) contract to pick up a serviceable veteran center that won’t insist on minutes or take minutes away from the young player, but complement them in the post, and bring energy to that second unit. A guy who can rebound and defend his position.
I think Petrie will make some sort of move to bring in another big. I think bringing in May was a wise move because the Kings were VERY young at the forward spots, especially at PF. JT will get his minutes, but after that we are pretty thin. May, when healthy, will help this young team up front. But another serviceable big would make the Kings competitive. I think the Kings will go big in the next draft, but this year, I believe they need to sign one more player who logs 8-12 minutes at the center spot only. There are UFA Centers out there:
http://www.nba.com/freeagents/2009/
We just need to bring in someone who wont mess up the team chemistry, who wont demand the ball, and will come in and give us a player in the post. Not a dominant player, but someone who will compete and play D.
Another year, another chance to hope for the team !!
by FaStRmAn on Jul 28, 2009 6:50 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I didn't think it would ever happen
but I rec’d your comment because you used paragraphs, complete sentences, and left out any unnecessary capitalization. Plus your comment was well thought-out and supported. I don’t necessarily agree with it, but you made a good argument. It’s the dawn of a new day.
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by AnotherStupidSN on Jul 28, 2009 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well said
They need an insurance policy at C. Whether thats a young prospect or an old vet I don’t really care. A vet who still reeeally has some game may help Shawes work on some things, a good prospect might have a future -
Both possibilities are acceptable to me, but a vet who can command some respect (not Mikki) might pay a higher dividend.
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by lietothegirls on Jul 28, 2009 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we waited too long.
All the decent backups have resigned. We had our $7M in cap space and we did nothing with it. The FO probably didn’t want a 2 or 3 yr deal for a backup, but now we’re starting to eat away at our cap space with the signing of May and the Max offers to Evans & Casspi. So, now what’s available isn’t worth signing.
I fear that unless GP can pull off some trade before the season starts, we are going back to Natt’s small ball again this season. We’re going to see May & JT at center along with Donte & Noc at PF.
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by HighTops on Jul 28, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Max offer to Evans and Cassipi?
They are both payed rookie scale, which is set in stone.
by unfair weather on Jul 28, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seven Mil in the bank isn't so bad
and who knows what will be available as Feb tradedealine approachs – seven (7!) months from now….
by betweentheeyes on Jul 28, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wrong!
Teams are allowed to pay their 1st round picks 20% over the rookie scale. The rookie scale for the #4 pick is $3.009M, but Evans signed a contract for $3.61M. Casspi got the same deal and signed for $200K over the rookie scale for the #23 pick.
Even though May hasn’t signed his contract pending his physical, the fact that he negotiated his contract, there is a $900K hold against our cap for his salary.
If the Kings had offered Gortat a $6.5M contract before signing Evans & Casspi & before agreeing to sign May, they would of had the money. Now, they have $1.7M less cap space because of the 3 contracts which leaves the less then the MLE in cap space.
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by HighTops on Jul 28, 2009 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To my knowledge,
Gortat signed a five year, $34 million deal. Are you saying that the Kings should have offered more than that?
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by section214 on Jul 29, 2009 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Gortat would've been a perfect fit
But $20 million would’ve been a stretch for me. $35+ million? Out of the question.
by furious.d on Jul 29, 2009 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't advacating signing Gortat
I was simply illistrating to UW what I meant when i said
All the decent backups have resigned. We had our $7M in cap space and we did nothing with it. The FO probably didn’t want a 2 or 3 yr deal for a backup, but now we’re starting to eat away at our cap space with the signing of May and the Max offers to Evans & Casspi.
in my post above
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by HighTops on Jul 29, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough
But the 20% rookie kiss that you speak of totals less than a million dollars, so I don’t think that giving those guys the money is the reason that we have not signed a center. If I’m wrong about that, please tell me who we missed out on. Who are these decent back-ups that we could have signed on the cheap?
My opinion is that the available funds and flexibility are greater than any of the players that we could have signed. We railed and railed over the money spent on Mikki Moore and ‘Reef, and now we’re mad because we’re not throwing money at the next bunch of stiffs?
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by section214 on Jul 29, 2009 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
My thoughts exactly.
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Jul 29, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It wasn't just the rookie deals
Mays deal which was for the Minimum could have been done after the cap space was spent because it’s an exemption just like the 1st round picks were an exemption. So, the total of the 3 is around $1.6M.
You are correct that what was available might not have been worth getting. At least not at the price we would of had to pay. Guys like Gortat, Pachulia, Ratliff, Nesterovich & Okur were out there. That doesn’t mean that some other trade couldn’t have been made using our Cap Space & a player.
But, my overall point was that our ability to take advantage of our Cap Space is dwindling away. Until at this point our Cap Space is below the MLE. Which kills any advantage we once had over every other team over the salary cap. As they say ’ Timing is everything’.
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by HighTops on Jul 30, 2009 1:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okur wasn't on the market
He didn’t opt out.
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by pookeyguru on Aug 1, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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