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Good ol' Charlie Rosen at Foxsports projects the Kings to be one of the NBA's seven worst teams. He was right one the money last year. I hate it when he's right.

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Pessimistic but not hating

At least not toward the Kings. He really hammers some of the other teams on that list though. I think he gives the Kings the most favorable assessment of the group. The Knicks, on the other hand, he just trashes.

From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.

by My Losing Season on Jul 28, 2009 3:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah

It takes lots of skill to predict that the worst team in the NBA last year is going to be one of the worst teams in the NBA this year.

"Shut up and Coach!"
Vfettke

by SavageBeast on Jul 28, 2009 5:05 PM PDT reply actions  

What I can live with:

An entertaining team that hustles, even while earning a lot of ping-pong balls.

I’d rather see a shitload of turnovers on fast breaks than see a lot of so-called" “good possessions” that end with a clanged 2-point shot from 21 feet.

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.

by andy sims on Jul 28, 2009 5:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Word.

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by JETisKing on Jul 29, 2009 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow one of the 7 worst teams

You really outdid yourself on thinking this time Uncle Charlie. Don’t let the ass hit your door on the way out. Wouldn’t want it to splinter again.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Jul 28, 2009 7:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Duh

This team sucks. There’s some promising young players and certianly a reason to be optimistic about the future, but for awhile they’re going to struggle.

That writer looks like the lovechild of Carmichael Dave and George Carlin.

by PurplePurple on Jul 29, 2009 7:40 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

ARRGH

ugly image stuck in head now

by ElRonToro on Jul 29, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

As long as they show consistent improvement, then I won’t mind if the Kings are one of the worst teams in the NBA.

I just don’t want last year’s disaster.

by 49er16 on Jul 29, 2009 7:52 AM PDT reply actions  

True.

Let’s hope last year’s debacle was the absolute lowest we could go.

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by JETisKing on Jul 29, 2009 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

You damn right we do!!

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by JETisKing on Jul 30, 2009 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh Charley

New Jersey: The argument is based on Lopez needing to become a good player and Courtney Lee being shocked by a trade? Lopez was already good last season, and Lee played pretty darn well in the playoffs. I’d be amazing if NJ was the worst this season.

Milwaukee: Redd is a “shoot-em-up” scorer? Apparently that’s his translation of an excellent shooter and All-Star. I’ve never been a big Bogut fan, but this glosses over the positive attributes he does have. To write him off as unathletic and nothing more is just lazy journalism.

Sacramento: Honestly, this is probably his most fair analysis, but he still relies on gross generalizations.

Honestly, I’m not even going to breakdown his so-called breakdowns of the remaining teams. It’s a waste of time. This was a story about meeting a word count and taking a dump on easy targets without any real effort.

Never forget: I am a complete idiot

by Exhibit G on Jul 29, 2009 8:00 AM PDT reply actions  

bingo

if he spent 20 minutes on this I’d be amazed,reads like he wrote it off the top of his head. Not one little improvement from last year?

"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley

by Bluejohn on Jul 29, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yep.

Lopez is a legitimate good big man. However, I do think Courtney Lee has to be a little bit surprised and bitter considering his great un-rookie-like playoff performance. With a true star like Devin Harris, NJ cannot be the worst.

I’d say the T-Wolves or Grizzlies will be the worst.

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by JETisKing on Jul 29, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

That'

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Jul 29, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's all his typical analysis is

He understands the game, but I’m not sure he actually strives to share what he knows. Or, if he does, he does such in a putrid fashion that it is impossible to tell.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Jul 29, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

He definitely understands the game

He just lets his own personal biases lead him to say stupid and/or ridiculous things far too often. Like Kevin Garnett isn’t a superstar. Or Phil Jackson is even sexier since the hip transplant.

by Charlieb on Jul 29, 2009 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh Wait.

Oh wait and flawed management. And flawed pocketbooks.

by chapuforyou on Jul 29, 2009 8:52 AM PDT reply actions  

Flawed Players

is what happens when they all are under-10 draft picks, other than Evans.

I agree with Exhibit G, this “analysis” looks like something thrown together while sitting on the toilet playing with your iPhone’s notepad.

Professional Hyperbole Slayer

by ForThree on Jul 29, 2009 8:53 AM PDT reply actions  

Wait

he’s predicting the worst team in the league last year will be one of the 7 worst this year? Wow … that’s going out on a limb, isn’t it?

I predict the Lakers will be in the top 10 teams this year. Aren’t I smart?

Sugar ... water .... and, of course, purple.

by Dub_TC on Jul 29, 2009 8:56 AM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Rec'd.

I’d risk to put Boston in the top 10 list too…

"Even when I’m old and grey, I won’t be able to play it, but I’ll still love the game." — Michael Jordan

Go Kings!

by Panzerfaust on Jul 29, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cleveland!

WordUpThome: I CANNOT BELIVE THAT THIS PRODUCT IS NOT BUTTER

Formerly Gallagher's Watermelons

by CaliforniaJag on Jul 29, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Steady now WTC...

If this clown is getting paid for this kind of analysis, then I would hold out for a decent offer before adding to that list if I were you!

by Rickyflip on Jul 29, 2009 12:33 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

good looking out!

thanks!

Sugar ... water .... and, of course, purple.

by Dub_TC on Jul 29, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with the list

The Bobcats might possibly bump one of those teams out of the bottom 7, but I think this is a pretty good list. The only surprise for me is that NJ is ranked dead last. I’d definitely rank them in the bottom 10, but dead last seems a bit low.

It is lazy journalism, but that’s what the offseason is for. As far as Charley Rosen articles go (low bar), this isn’t that bad.

by Charlieb on Jul 29, 2009 9:22 AM PDT reply actions  

Get more than 17 wins and hustle

and I’ll be happy. Steady improvement year after year . . . but I wonder if that will be enough to start filling some of the empty seats at Arco? I doubt it.

Ba-da

by Ba-Da Bing on Jul 29, 2009 10:10 AM PDT reply actions  

John Wall!

The NBA: "Where 27 free throws happens"

by lodisacfan on Jul 29, 2009 10:24 AM PDT reply actions  

Don't make me cry

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Jul 29, 2009 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

i think we just need one more year and one more lottery pick to get off this list.

by gedrosolan on Jul 29, 2009 10:53 AM PDT reply actions  

I need a job like that..

getting paid to state the obvious in a way that makes it sound like a revelation? Easy!

I haven’t looked this up (I’m using my mobile), but how many of these teams were actually in the bottom 7 at season end?

by Rickyflip on Jul 29, 2009 12:30 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

The guy fits right in at FOX

Blowhards preferred.

From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.

by My Losing Season on Jul 29, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

He didn't try to make it sound like a revelation.

If anything, he made it seem like those were obviously the 7 worst teams.

by Charlieb on Jul 29, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where are the Clippers on that list?

Never overestimate Mike Dunleavy Snr.

Moving at the speed of molasses.

by elfboy_ on Jul 29, 2009 12:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Did he really

call Noc the best player on the team? Really?

And he doesn’t take into account the fact that our two young “turnover prone” bigs were a rookie and a 2nd year player.

Lazy analysis at best.

The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.

by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 29, 2009 1:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Best 2-way player

I think the implication was that Kevin, JT, and Spence play subpar defense.

by Charlieb on Jul 29, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

K-Mart and D....

Perhaps I’m watching the games incorrectly, but what is it with people saying the Martin is a terrible defender? Last year he was, and only because of his injury. Am I wrong in thinking that K-Mart was an okay defender, and improving before last year?

by amonk81 on Jul 29, 2009 3:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Charley Rosen is the Dick Motta of analysts

Old, cranky, and loses more than he wins.

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by section214 on Jul 29, 2009 5:01 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Oh, crap!

I just described myself!

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Jul 29, 2009 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

There should be a rule against replying to yourself when you say something profoundly awful

Of course with this rule, I’d have been banned in September of ’05……

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Jul 29, 2009 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

There's no rule.

But it does have a name now, haven’t you heard?

Pooking.

The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.

by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 29, 2009 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions   3 recs

lol!

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Jul 29, 2009 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope I hadn't heard

But, I’m not one of the cool kids either. :)

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Jul 30, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Flawed, No

Inexperienced, Yes. Big difference long term.

by kingz2012champz on Jul 29, 2009 5:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Hoping Kevin can prove him wrong

“Kevin Martin can score points by the dozen, but rarely passes and his version of playing defense is to outscore his opponent.”

Ouch. But pretty much on target, both pre- and post-injury.

"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."

by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 29, 2009 6:55 PM PDT reply actions  

What roster DOESN'T..

…have a full complement of ‘flawed’ players? There’s no such thing as a perfect player, even LeBron James has weaknesses and flaws in his game.

by Smills91 on Jul 29, 2009 8:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Come On Rosen!

If we could be sure about PG
uh – and SF
and our young’ins at the 4 and 5 . . . .

we dooo have lots and lots of SFs!

OK, never mind. :) Next season is a mystery to me – but we’ll be there in 114 to see what happens!

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Jul 29, 2009 8:50 PM PDT reply actions  

You got season tix?

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Jul 30, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I bet at least once

You get popcorn dropped on you by someone in the seats directly above you.

The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.

by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 30, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Weighted popcorn…

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Jul 30, 2009 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

and I am still in the market for some tix

I was in Sec 114 for five games last season. Wonderful and painful at the same time.

by betweentheeyes on Jul 30, 2009 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

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