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Chasing Knicks: David Lee and Nate Robinson in Sacramento

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The Kings have, in the past, reportedly had interest in both David Lee and Nate Robinson, current restricted free agents of the New York Knicks. For Lee, the rumors came when Ron Artest first made the mill. A trade sending Artest to New York, it was reported, would require Lee to Sacramento in return. The Knicks never bit (not Isiah Thomas or Donnie Walsh), and Artest ended up bringing back Donté Greene, Bobby Jackson and the pick which became Omri Casspi.

Nate's connection to Sacramento is more recent: a deadline day 2009 rumor that the Kings offered Kenny Thomas in exchange for Robinson and Jared Jeffries, a player with a ruddy contract which extends in 2011. Shockingly, the Knicks did not bite, despite an apparent bloodthrist for contracts expiring in 2010, which Thomas' does. Clearly, by agreeing to exchange K-9's expiring contract for Jeffries' cantankerous deal, the Kings wanted Nate.

Yet, here we are, with Lee and Robinson clearly available. Lee nor Robinson has been rumored to be near signing an offer sheet -- Lee is reportedly in talks with Portland, a team which needs to spend the money Hedo Turkoglu passed up. I can't imagine, however, the Blazers will consider offering Lee what he wants, which would be a contract soaking up all $9.5 million Portland has available under the cap for next season. Nate hasn't been rumored heavily anywhere, really.

Will the Kings get involved this week? More importantly, should they?

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I have been a Lee fan for quite a while. He's an incredible rebounder, one of the best in the league. He scores efficiently, basically because he rarely shoots except when it's wide open near the rim. (He did add a short jumper to his arsenal last season, to good effect.) He's not known as a good defender -- he blocks no shots, grabs no steals and is said to be bad on the pick-and-roll. Basically, his entire defensive contribution comes on defensive rebounds. His entire offensive contribution comes on putbacks and finishes. He does those things very, very well. Sacramento thirsts for those attributes -- especially defensive rebounding. The only real question you'd ask when approaching a Lee partnership is how a Lee-Hawes-Thompson frontcourt would be organized.

I'd probably condone starting Lee with Spencer Hawes, and bringing Jason Thompson off the bench at both positions. But I also think Thompson is too good to be a bench player on this team, and if he gets much better you'd be paying Lee a lot of dough to be a third big man. Maybe that's a good problem to have -- it'd mean Thompson and Hawes are good enough to be good players on good teams. It's a tricky balance for a rebuilding team. And you'd be relying on nascent, extant but still altogether meager post defense skills from Hawes, while letting Thompson's strong and developing defense fill in against lesser opponents off the bench. Lee as a sixth man at more than $6 million per year -- that does not excite me. Hawes coming off the bench -- that does not excite me.

Robinson is a firecracker scorer ... and that's about it. Like other top firecracker scorers, Nate doesn't turn the ball over much. He just scores. He rebounds a bit, too, roughly on par with Kevin Martin. He's probably a worse defender than Lee, but Robinson is clearly a bench player, and defense isn't as much of a concern (for better or worse) for second-unit players. In his first two seasons, Robinson shot the three extraordinarily well -- 39%. But he has tailed off as his attempts have increased, and he's at roughly 33% over the last two years. As such, his efficiency has never been tremendous, and that's what (in my opinion) you want from a bench scorer: efficient shooting in bulk. Robinson shoots in bulk alright (his 25% usage rate would have been second-highest on the Kings last season) but his efficiency is inferior to that of Francisco Garcia.

And there's the real problem with N8 The Gr8: we already have Garcia under contract. For five more years. At $5 million plus per season. Garcia doesn't shoot nearly as frequently as Robinson, but he does so more efficiently and is seen as a boon to the locker room. While Francisco's 2008-09 numbers in total don't look fantastic, the post-ASW figures are very very strong. Remember that Garcia's injury left him both rusty and out-of-sorts for December and January, and take a look: after the All-Star break, Garcia ran up 14.7 points in 36 minutes, on .464/.481 shooting and with 39 steals and 34 blocks in only 28 games.

Remember that Rashad McCants was a member of Garcia's unit a good deal of time, and also Andres Nocioni while Garcia filled in for injured Kevin Martin. Garcia can score more, and he had a higher usage rate in 2007-08. But the defensive contributions and (again, silly I know) the locker room impact really make Garcia a valuable member of the roster.

I wouldn't want Robinson to push Garcia out of position, frankly because Garcia is better for this team (and perhaps for any time). The Kings, in other words, don't need what Nate is selling. It's a different situation than with Lee, where while the Kings do need what Lee is selling, Lee is likely to cost too much given his potential role. Robinson is just extraneous, extra onions on a Chicago dog smothered in onions and onion sauce on a onion roll.

Of course, as I write this, it comes to my attention the New York Post reports the Kings are one of the teams who have inquired about Robinson's price. As I do not believe the Knicks would be willing to take back Beno Udrih or Andres Nocioni in a sign-and-trade, I am not entirely excited by the potentially spurious development.

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In one word this is my reaction: No

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by pookeyguru on Jul 6, 2009 8:46 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Going back to my rebuilding post

You have to ask what you are building. If you can get a starter who is cleary better than what you have at that position for the right price, you MUST consider it. Otherwise, go for back-up strength or a unique skill. Both Robinson and Lee are too close to what we already have. Not clear starters and probably too expensive to come off the bench.

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by SavageBeast on Jul 6, 2009 8:50 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Well summarized.

Lower their expectations and rise to met them

by left hand on Jul 6, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't want Lee for one reason

This team doesn’t just need better rebounding , but better interior defense too. Lee provides one (as we know) and not the other.

So why? You aren’t winning a championship or contending for one. I recognize that people need to maintain interest, but does having Beno Udrih squared interest you?

Note: I’m not comparing Udrih to Lee. I’m saying that Udrih got paid because he filled a need and was rare on the market in which he entered. How is Lee any different?

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by pookeyguru on Jul 6, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Lee is proven and provides a double-double every night.

Beno had one decent season and had Petrie over a barrel, because there were literally NO other PGs on the market that we could afford or acquire. Beno’s situation was a perfect storm of free agent opportunism. Lee, on the other hand, is actually way more serviceable, IMO.

I mean, I think if we could make it to the playoffs, a three-man big rotation of Hawes, JT and Lee would do well in the grind-it-out style that the playoffs tend to follow. We could actually surprise a lot of teams.

Plus, I think we’re underrating Hawes’ D and the possibility that it will only improve (along w/ JT’s D) this season. Hawes already has good help-D and excellent shot-blocking ability. Remember, Hawes finished top 20 in the league in blocks last season, and that was after playing limited, sporadic minutes for 2/3 of the year. If his blocking trend from the last 1/3 of the season continues, he could easily be a top 10 shot blocker in the league this season!

I’ll even advocate for Nate Rob, despite the fact so many of you don’t like him. I think his punch off the bench and hustle would be contagious, not to mention that given the five backcourt players (Evans, Martin, Nate Rob and Sergio), there are many combinations that could be utilized to change the dynamic of the game forcing the opposing team to constantly adjust their D and game plan.

Having said that, I would like to see BOTH Lee and Nate on the Kings. But, it would be a must that either or both of Noc and Beno were included in the trade (which I don’t see NY doing). So, it’s prolly a moot point. Still, I think we could do well w:
Evans/Nate Rob/Sergio
Martin/Garcia/Evans
Greene/Casspi/Garcia/(JT?)
JT/Lee/Brockman
Hawes/JT/Lee

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by PhutureKings on Jul 6, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely NO to Robinson

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by Panzerfaust on Jul 6, 2009 8:55 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

+1

If you want this type of scoring in a midget defender, go sign Earl Boykins.

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by jjham15 on Jul 6, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's cheaper than Nate Rob too

The only plus to having Nate Rob on the roster is you got 2 Seattle born & bred players on the Kings roster instead of only one now.

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by pookeyguru on Jul 6, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey, his name is Brockman, Jon

not Liver, Chopped. Until summer league, he is #2 on the Space Needle representatives depth chart.

by betweentheeyes on Jul 6, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brockman, Jon....you being #2 is bad idea, not good.

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by jjham15 on Jul 6, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I take Lee if the price is right

but I really don’t want Robinson. The only thing he brings to the Kings is a presence at the Dunk Contest every year. However, I’m not totally against taking him. We just need to get rid of a bad contract or he needs to be super cheap. I’d be willing to see him get Beno Udrih money, if we didn’t have to pay Beno Udrih money to Beno himself. But, this is probably just me talking myself into the lesser of two evils.

Lee, on the other hand, is a tough decision. The potential one-two punch of Hawes and Thompson as starters is undeniable. Lee would certainly have to come off the bench, which I’m sort of okay with. Keep in mind, he’s averaged a double double as a backup before. But for $10 million? That’s a little tough to swallow, unless we get rid of a bad contract

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by vfettke on Jul 6, 2009 9:12 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think to get rid of Beno/Thomas contracts and possibly Nocioni’s contract I wouldn’t mind Lee and Robinson. Robinson seems to bring a spark when he plays. Plus, has anybody heard of Robinson tanking it after he gets his money?

by KingsAs49erSharks on Jul 6, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great post TZ

I think you did a good job of illustrating the issues with acquiring either player.

Particularly with Lee, I think it is too high a price to pay for some rebounding. There are a lot of guys with lower profiles (and smaller contracts) who could provide rebounding help off the bench. They may not be as good of all-around players as Lee, but serviceable nonetheless.

As for Robinson, I think his price is probably too high as well. I wouldn’t be completely opposed to him, though. He brings a lot of energy, and a perception of toughness.

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by Exhibit G on Jul 6, 2009 9:16 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Lee = Yes. Robinson = No

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by what_the_crap on Jul 6, 2009 9:21 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

wait

changed my mind … no to both.

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by what_the_crap on Jul 6, 2009 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You changed your mind in five minutes?

What did you see/read?

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by Juan Primo on Jul 6, 2009 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lee kicked his dog.

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by Aykis16 on Jul 6, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

how'd you know?!?!?

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by what_the_crap on Jul 6, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully your dog won’t have to go through rehabilitation like Ron-Ron’s.

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by Juan Primo on Jul 6, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

nah

my dog eats better than I do!

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by what_the_crap on Jul 6, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

the Kings desperately need rebounding

Evans will help, Kevin Martin isn’t too bad, but as porous as the interior defense has been, rebounding is a must. To implement a “run n’ gun” – can’t pull the trigger if your gun ain’t loaded. Rebounding on the defensive end, rebounding on the offensive end. The Kings won’t improve defensively until they limit possessions – rebounding.

If the Kings trade for David Lee and $10M then the other heavy contracts: Beno, Noce and Garcia and of course, K9 have to go too – not all, but some way to pay for this addition.

As for Nate Robinson – he is a fun player to watch and a unique offensive weapon. He can’t defend larger PG’s (and he is 5’9"), he does not pass the ball much, and my best guess is he would expect to start and be unhappy if he did not (start) on this Kings team. He is used to, and enjoys the spotlight – the spotlights don’t shine very bright in Sacramento. I think this is a bad match.

My answer is like Nate Robinson: short but it jumps out at you – NO!

by betweentheeyes on Jul 6, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't really consider Garcia a "heavy contract"

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by PhutureKings on Jul 6, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you Phuture.

Garcia is a fringe starter at the 2-3 who gives the team flexibility on the trade front. For 5 mill, the Kings can deal away Noc in a deal that doesn’t return a small forward while they wait to see if Casspi or Donté can be the man next year. Garcia is also a better fit with Evans in the starting line-up due to his point forward skills.

Garcia is the bridge that gets us to either a huge free agent/trade acquisition or extreme player development. Garcia is also the type of gritty character guy the Kings need who brings energy and effort every night.

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by jjham15 on Jul 6, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

PhutureKings & jjham15 have it right!

IMHO, Garcia is one of our core players. He doesn’t gripe or complain about minutes or shots, he hustles and offers a lot of versatility which is very important in the run-n-shoot type of offense we are supposed to play. Plus he is an above-average defender, which this team sorely lacks on most positions, except JTs man-on-man D (which isn’t bad) and Hawes help-D (its also not bad and is getting better), especially since the Salmons trade.

by NorCal BillsFan on Jul 6, 2009 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

not a Cisco hater, but no love lost should he play elsewhere

the guy is a very engaging, and multi-talented, love watching him talk up the opposition – but… the bonehead factor makes him no higher than 6th on the depth chart on any team and lower on most.

$5-$7M per year for 5 years is a high price to pay for a bench player without a specialty. Cisco adds to the team, but not enough to substantiate that salary, IMO. On this Kings team with 4 clear SF (Cisco, Noce, Greene, Casspi), if he is the part that makes a good trade work than adios. He is not a core player (Martin, Thompson, Hawes, Evans are the current 4)

by betweentheeyes on Jul 6, 2009 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I

thought of David Lee on the bench making 10 mil a year ….

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by what_the_crap on Jul 6, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is not quite a fit

I have no use for Robinson, but Lee has always been interesting. I like everything about the 3 man rotation but defense. One of the 3 needs to be able to defend. Thompson is the only possibility, and the jury is still out. No with both in the trad e, maybe if just Lee depending on the cost …8 million a year we can talk.

by ElRonToro on Jul 6, 2009 9:28 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If Lee's willing to come off the bench

I’d definitely consider $8 mil a year. I think the only real issue defensively would be when Hawes and Lee are on the floor at the same time. I think JT needs to be out there as much as possible with either of them to make to add a defensive punch you wouldn’t get otherwise (moreso because of Lee than Hawes)

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by vfettke on Jul 6, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love Lee's game

But for what he would cost and how the rotation would work just doesnt fit together for this team.

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by Hilton on Jul 6, 2009 9:36 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I disagree

If you’re the opposing team and you’re looking at going against Hawes/JT/Lee all night, you’re not happy. Maybe we could be better defensively at that point, but between Hawes’ Help-D and blocking, Lee’s boards and JT’s hands, you’re in for a long night.

Sure, maybe those three are only good defensively as half the teams in the league, but they’d be better than half the teams, too. By no means would they be the worst. Plus, given that we’ll likely be running up-tempo, the D only needs to be decent, not great. The teams that are better defensively in the paint would likely play a slower-tempo game. As long as we’re scoring, which shouldn’t be a problem, the D only needs to be decent.

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by PhutureKings on Jul 6, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nate Robinson really elevated his play toward the end of last season. He was scoring 25 to 30 points a game pretty routinely, scoring and dishing and making the game look easy. He has swagger and speed, and a lot of talent… all the things the Kings lack. This guy just wants to win too. He is really coming into his own as a player. Now is the time to go after him.

David Lee, I am not excited about, because his price tag is too high. And I do not think there is a significant difference between and JT as a player.

by bench_blob on Jul 6, 2009 9:50 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't need Nate, but give me Lee

Unless we dump something like Udrih.

Lee I like. I hear a lot about bringing in another big hurting Hawes and Thompson, but I think it will actually help them. Make them compete for those minutes rather than just giving them. Let the best men get the most minutes. Besides, 96 minutes is a lot of minutes to fill, particularly when you factor in injuries.

We’re really thin in the frontcourt and could use the help.

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by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 6, 2009 9:56 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree

we don’t have a choice, we MUST get another big body. 2 is not enough, especially if an injury happens.

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by PhutureKings on Jul 6, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

when, not if
especially if an injury happens

by betweentheeyes on Jul 6, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love Lee but...

He doesn’t complete this current team and he eats up all the possible trade/fa dollars that the Kings need going forward. I would rather see the Kings dump one of their contracts (Noc/Beno) and obtain Boozer as a rental/trade piece. Next years draft is filled with big men and the Kings should still be a top ten pick so improvement can come via young affordable talent.

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by jjham15 on Jul 6, 2009 9:58 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Who are we going to sign next summer better than Lee?

I mean, the guy is only one the league’s best rebounders and averages a double-double.

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by PhutureKings on Jul 6, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's the point

We don’t know what is going to happen next year. Your not just sacrificing money and confusing the rotation, your sacrificing flexibility going forward. We don’t know what sort of opportunities could prevent themselves with the cap space we have through the rest of the offseason, the trade deadline, and into next offseason.

Your going to be paying a role-player who is a one trick pony with rebounding and some hustle play somewhere in the range of $8-9.5 mil a year. For a better team that already has a good rotation and is better defensively to make up for his shortcomings there, you can swallow overpaying a very good rebounder off the bench a little easier.

For a team that is as far away from competing as us, and whose roster is likely to be in flux for a little while yet, I just don’t think it makes sense. We don’t even know what we have yet in our current young bigs, but what we do know seems to indicate we need someone who can be a defensive presence to come off the bench. We also have a lottery pick upcoming in a draft looking to be relatively heavy in youngish forward prospects.

So to me, it doesn’t make any sense to handcuff yourself to a guy like Lee. It is the same reason I was so opposed to re-signing Udrih to his massive deal. You just shouldn’t overpay for a mediocre player unless it is one of the final pieces you need to assemble a deep playoff team. It doesn’t matter if it is the “only option” in free agency. For a young team you bide your time and make due with a vet or a player off the scrap-heap until something better comes along, likely from the draft or by using the assets you obtain via the draft.

by TheRaven on Jul 6, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

for the Beno (and Garcia) deal(s)

it isn’t just the MLE money it is the length of the contracts that are so bad.

by betweentheeyes on Jul 6, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

That is definitely a big part of overpaying. It isn’t just about the amount per year, but the number of years that you are locked into a cap drain.

by TheRaven on Jul 6, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Grudgingly agree on Beno

Disagree on Cisco. I think he’s earning his keep, and at the end of the contract we’ll look back and feel we got fair value. Beno? Those are some long odds…

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by otis29 on Jul 6, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're (not your) referring to a guy who

averages a DOUBLE-DOUBLE and is one of the best defensive rebounders in the league as a one-trick pony. Really!?!

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by PhutureKings on Jul 6, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, I am

He is a very good defensive rebounder, that is indeed a valuable skill to have in the NBA. He can scrap and get you some putbacks and stuff around the rim, and has added a halfway decent short jumper. What makes him more valuable than a lot of bigs is that at least he gets his points pretty efficiently, as has been pointed out

However, nothing else he brings to the table is significant. He plays poor defense, and he can’t block a shot to save his life. Those aren’t good things for your first big off the bench who you are paying a LOT of money to have.

I am not saying he sucks or that he is a scrub, he has some valuable NBA skills. I just don’t think what he brings to the table is significant enough to make up for handcuffing yourself to a guy for about 5 years at $8-9 mil a year and taking away yet another chunk of future flexibility.

by TheRaven on Jul 6, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We won 17 games

This team could use either guy at the right price. Let Westphal worry about the rotation. Lee gets in there and plays hard and puts up numbers, especially rebounding. I don’t see him coming here to come off the bench when he could do the same thing for a better team. Robinson is a quick, penetrating guard that can score. We can use that. Not sure how that works with our PGs on the roster, but Robinson fills a need. He’s a young player whose number have increased, both points and assists per game, each of the last three years. Neither guy is a franchise player, but would definintely help a team with as little proven talent as the Kings have.

by PurplePurple on Jul 6, 2009 10:08 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Again, I agree

I think having a backcourt of Martin, Evans, Nate and Sergio gives you so much versatility. Evans/Martin, Evans/Sergio, Evans/Nate, Martin/Nate, Martin/Sergio. Everyone of those combos gives you something different and effective.. .It would keep opposing teams on their heels all night.

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by PhutureKings on Jul 6, 2009 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lee is more valuable but neither fit

Like others are saying we’re going to have to pay Lee way too much for him to sit on the bench. If he starts it’s no good for our young bigs. He’s seemingly a double double machine but he doesn’t bring enough on the offensive end for him to start.

If the guy even blocked 1 shot a game or maybe got 2 steals a game he’d be much more tempting. Hopefully we already have our poor man’s David Lee in John Brockman.

by ucla06 on Jul 6, 2009 10:25 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I don't want

unless we can trade Noc straight up for Lee. Which I don’t think is happening.

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by Aykis16 on Jul 6, 2009 10:26 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Defense is too important

I say no on Lee and Robinson but definitely yes if the Kings go after Paul Millsap.

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by kingme18 on Jul 6, 2009 10:40 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I third the Millsap

But wait…the Jazz front office isn’t that stupid are they? Millsap would be an asset to any team and he’s only getting better.

by JETisKing on Jul 6, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No to Lee because of defense

but you want to bring in the 6’7" power forward that is super strong, but totally undersized and can’t guard any of the quick power forwards in the league?

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by ForThree on Jul 6, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd guess

That Lee and his agent are just doing their dilligence by meeting with other teams. It makes a million times more sense for them to wait until next year to negotiate their deal. First, he’ll be unrestricted so teams won’t have to give anything up to get him back. Second, the NBA economy might improve by then. Third, all of the teams that have been clearing 2010 cap space will be scrambling to pick up players like Lee once the franchise players are off the board. Fourth, another year of the D’Antoni stat boost can only improve his stock. He’ll still be in his athletic prime next year, so really the only thing that could hurt his value is a serious injury and you can’t plan your career around the assumption that this will be the year that you blow out your knee.

by furious.d on Jul 6, 2009 10:52 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

*unless you’re Tracy McGrady

by furious.d on Jul 6, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

All good reasons why the Kings should sign him NOW!

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by PhutureKings on Jul 6, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

When in hell does Amick

get off his fat ass, end his vacation, and rejoin the fray. I want info! Rest when you die!
Actually I’ll probably die first, so Rest when one of us dies!

by ElRonToro on Jul 6, 2009 12:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Calm down

He left the Kings in Aileen’s capable hands while he took his…BWAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAAA

Damn, I almost made it through.

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by otis29 on Jul 6, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He earned his vacation

I’ve got no problem with him taking some well-deserved time away during a very slow time for the team.

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by Exhibit G on Jul 6, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But its about me, not him.

I thought that was a given.
Plus if he did a crappy job I wouldn’t care when he was coming back;

by ElRonToro on Jul 6, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That what's she said.

Not a sexual innuendo, rather more of a typical feminine viewpoint one.

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by PhutureKings on Jul 6, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think

if he did a crappy job I wouldn’t care when he was coming back qualifies as both.

by furious.d on Jul 6, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Time away?

I hardly know anyone anymore that actually takes vacation but doesn’t still do some work. My guess is Sam is doing plenty of work (hello Mr. Blackberry), just not writing about it until he gets back.

StR noobs: More oxygen, less THC please.

by otis29 on Jul 6, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There was an update from his Twitter just last week

It was on the front page :)

Never forget: I am a complete idiot

by Exhibit G on Jul 6, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you just stepped into the sarchasm ExG

StR noobs: More oxygen, less THC please.

by otis29 on Jul 6, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thought I smelled something.

"It would be my honor to be your new stepfather."

by PhutureKings on Jul 6, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I say No and No...

to both Lee and Nate…I like them both, as I do alot of players, but I wouldn’t sign them all simply because they are there and available.

by NorCal BillsFan on Jul 6, 2009 5:14 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Yes only if...

yes to nate if we can get rid of beno,
yes to lee if it’s for midlevel money or less,
which means neither of them are coming to sac. I’m going to snap back into reality now.

by creep on Jul 6, 2009 9:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You take Lee in a second for the right price

don’t be dumb (as my Cambodian brother in law would say)

Nate, I’m unsure on.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Jul 6, 2009 9:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes to either...

If the Knicks want to take back Noc (he can be a marion-lite in D’Antoni’s O!!) and sign either to only a 2-3 yr offer evil grin

by DowJones on Jul 8, 2009 9:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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