The View From Section 214, Plus Rantdumb Thoughts
Joe Kleine (right) is joined by three other guys.
In 1988, your Sacramento Kings embarked on what would be eight straight seasons of fewer than 30 wins per (or eight straight seasons of more than 50 losses per, if you’re a real masochist). They sucked, but they were ours. It was the best of times (to that point in time); it was the worst of times.
During this period, Kings fans (like all creatures of survival) adapted to their environment. Draft night ruled. No, not college draft night. Game ticket draft night. I’ll take the Lakers game, you take the Bulls, I take the Pistons…A Kings’ fan in the ‘80’s – early ‘90’s was a fan that was as interested in seeing Kareem, Magic, Isaiah, Sir Charles, MJ, Larry, Hakeem as they were in seeing Reggie, Mitch, Wayman, LaSalle, Lionel, and the rest of the gang. There were two NBA’s back then – theirs and ours. It was easy to appreciate and not hate. We’d flock to ARCO to see the stars as they came to town, with a win being an afterthought.
I bring this up as we head into a season where we could win twelve more games than last year and still not crack the 30 win plateau. A season where just winning the rebounding battle for the night will practically count as a victory. A season where an evening with fewer than 15 turnovers will have us just plain giddy with excitement. If you’re heading out to the old gas tank this year in the hopes of charting out your seat for the playoffs, well, you’re getting there mighty early.
This is new ground for anyone that wasn’t a Kings fan prior to C-Webb and Vlade and company. If you became a Kings around the turn of the century, you could be ill equipped to root for a truly bad rebuilding team. That’s OK, kids. Your old friend section214 is here to help. Here are some tips that will help bring a little warmth to what can otherwise be a cold, cold cellar.
Take the victories where you can find them. If you’re only going to chart wins by who is leading at the end of regulation, you’re going to wind up with a very sparse chart. Think quarters. If we win the 2nd quarter, celebrate that. If we win consecutive quarters, go nuts! Prolonged runs of efficiency and success are to be recognized. And if it begins to happen more than infrequently, call it growth and be happy.
Better is better, period. If you set the bar for (say) Jason Thompson to average a double-double this year, you could be disappointed if he goes for 15 and 9. But 15 and 9 would represent a significant improvement for JT, and it would be better than David Lee’s career numbers. This is especially true with Donté Greene. Don’t get too hung up on the numbers. Concentrate on his play. And remember how young and inexperienced these guys are. Don’t be too quick to judge. We have all season to draw our conclusions.
Don’t overcook the defeats. I used to work with a boss that liked to say, "If you have to swallow a turd, don’t chew it on the way down." To that I would add that inspecting the turd for corn yields little return on your time investment. Simply, this team is going to suck at times, and it has the potential to suck for extended stretches. Know this going into the season, and don’t dwell too much on it when it happens (again and again). Take the victories where you can find them. Bemoaning the fact that we are (for example) thin up front is OK (though how can we be thin with Sean May...), but bemoaning it for six straight months will just make you (and everyone around you) crazy.
Enjoy quality opposition. This does not apply to Kobe Bryant. But it does apply to LeBron, Dwyane, CP3, Superman, etc. Go to the games and marvel at the game’s stars. Enjoy the ride. Their extraordinary play will not be the difference between us making and missing the playoffs. I’m not saying not to root for the Kings. I’m just saying don’t bleed all over the floor with each and every loss. Go to the game in hopes of entertainment. If a Kings win actually breaks out, bonus!
And while I’m at it, the "rantdumb thoughts" that inspired the title:
Sean May Tired of the Sean May fat jokes? Lighten up! Some of the comments might be a little heavy handed, and most of us can’t weight for Sean to suit up. But due to limited playing time, limited highlights and limited height, May’s arrival (by itself) does not garner a lot of excitement. But if dude provides a little offense and a lot of rebounding off the bench, he will be more than worth the weight of his sub-million dollar contract. Mmm, sub. But until camp opens, expect May to be the big butt of cheap jokes (ahem).
Omri Casspi By choosing the number 18, Casspi has the inside track on being the best Sacramento King ever at his number. He only needs to beat out 1987’s version of Derek Smith. By the way, the number 18 is representative of the Hebrew word "Chai," which means life or living. Kind of cool.
Beno Udrih Beno can be the greatest point guard of all time to wear the number 19 if he can beat out Bob Cousy. Cousy played 7 games for the Kings in 1969-70 when he was roughly 70 years old, averaging less than 1 point and 1 assist per game. Beno still has a way to go. (Hat tip to Tyreke Evans for not taking the easy way out. If he can take down Dough Christie, we will be happy campers.)
The word "irregardless" If "regard" means to consider and "regardless" means not to consider, then "irregardless" means not to not to consider, which means to consider or regard. Stop using the word "irregardless," people! I beg you! Together we can make a difference.
Tall People Take it from a guy that has seen 6-10 or taller players wear Kings uniforms named Alaa Abdelnaby, Michael Bradley, Randy Breuer, Marty Conlon, Ben Gillery, Jerome James, Les Jepsen, Rich Kelley, Greg Kite, Joe Kleine, Eric Leckner, Brad Lohaus, Art Long, Jawann Oldham, Greg Ostertag, Vitaly Potapenko, Johnny Rogers, Kevin Salvadori, Jamal Sampson, Dwayne Schintzius, Jabari Smith, and Greg Stokes – bigger is not always better. Would you want Mikki Moore back? Then why would we want just any stiff just because he’s tall? I’m OK playing smaller and faster. It at least gives us a beggar’s chance. I prefer that greatly over watching someone like Robert Swift or Johan Petro or Saer Sene frustrate the sh*t out of me every time they play (unless we acquire one of these guys at the last minute, in which case I’m all for it).
Sergio Rodriguez Remember the old westerns, when one cowboy would say, "Awfully quiet out here," and the other cowboy would say "Yeah, too quiet," and then one of the cowboys would take an arrow through his chest? It’s been awfully quiet about Sergio Rodriguez lately.
Kenny Thomas Because you’re still with us, K9…woof!
Tyreke and Kevin Tyreke Evans will be the most exciting thing about the Kings this year night in and night out, but Kevin Martin will be the Kings’ best player night in and night out. Note to everyone that talks about trading Martin – there is nothing wrong with that, but you damn better get something tangible in return. Dollar for dollar, the man is one of the most efficient offensive players in the NBA. Please remember that before you concoct a deal that would have him jettisoned for expiring contract.
Magoof This word will not earn you a ban, but it will earn automatic disrespect for your opinion, at least from me. It’s tired, old, worn out, not funny…hey I just described myself! Let’s retire this pig (um, the word "Magoof," not me).
And Last But Not Least Thanks to everyone for their FanPosts and FanShots. I know that there has been some commentary lately as to what is and is not news. And while I have not enjoyed each and every ‘Post or ‘Shot, I sure have enjoyed the sum of the parts that is StR each and every day. I appreciate everyone’s efforts to keep me entertained this summer. Your You’re all the best!
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Great post about expectations
Improvement is all that’s going to matter. If the Kings play within 5-10 of teams that ran them out of the gym last season, and it comes from hustle and smarter play, then that’s a victory in the growth department.
For the record, I don’t recall seeing a broad usage of “Magoof,” but I don’t see how it’s okay to pick on millionaires (woof!), and not the billionaires who sign his checks willingly.
But I can live the rest of my days peacefully without seeing either slur ever again.
Again, terriffic post, this year, perspective will be everything.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Aug 4, 2009 8:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think that the Maloofs "willingly" sign Thomas' checks
much in the same way that my dates used to “willingly” ingest chloroform. Point taken, though.
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by section214 on Aug 4, 2009 9:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Go with the Malooves
it’s not terribly disrespectful, but still makes fun of them.
As for expectations for the season. I just want to see our guys play hard and show some improvement. Same expectations I had through the ’80s and ’90s.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Aug 5, 2009 1:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forgot to mention
Nice article and when did you forget how to use the reply button. This isn’t the 1st time you’ve missed that recently. ;p
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Aug 5, 2009 1:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have failed to hit reply a couple of times recently
Each time while replying to andy sims, I believe. Perhaps that is because I envision Simsy and myself having casual conversation with each other, where no reply button is warranted. The two of us, donning our ascots, smoking fine cigars and sipping brandy, siiting around a warm fire at the club, discussing the events of the day and solving the issues of the world…or I’m beginning to go senile. Well, there’s one way to find out -
K-9(meow!)
F*ck.
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by section214 on Aug 5, 2009 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
See? That sounds classy.
Like, K-Fed classy, for realz.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Aug 5, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hear what you are saying
regarding lowering expectations, and taking satisfaction where you can get it, but the other side of the coin is last years 17 win squad was largely all about:
(1) the ball hogging of John Salmons
(2) the ineptitude of Beno
(3) the apathy of Brad Miller
(4) the cockiness of Theus
(5) the sore ankle of K-Mart.
All that ugliness is dead and buried, and that’s a wonderful thing. Why does next year have to be a repeat of last year RE: wins and losses when our team dynamic will be entirely new. Granted, some of the main cast remains, but I have a strong sense next years team will not resemble anything like what we saw.
Now this team is not going deep into the playoffs, and the losses will pile up fast until the team learns to play together, learns how to win, and be a cohesive unit.
But if things fall into place, Tyreke is as good or better as we expect, K-Mart plays like two years ago, Shock and Hawes progress naturally, Coach Westphal makes a difference, and one or two other pleasant personnel surprises emerge, why can we not win 35+ games?
If a mediocre team takes care of their home court, they will win 25X. 25-16 @ home. Sneak up on a few dregs of the league, and surprise a few good teams that don’t show up, that’ll get you 10 road wins. 10-31 @ road That’s 35 wins, doubling your win total!! Everyone is happy, except the John Wall fans.
by bench_blob on Aug 4, 2009 9:09 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Nothing wrong with beign optimistic
But a dozen win improvement is pretty big by NBA standards. Doubling your number of wins is almost unheard of (unless you draft Tim Duncan and David Robinson comes back from injury, or Dwyane Wade returns to your squad).
Nice comment regarding Wall. I forgot my rant piece regarding being damn tired of being the national butt of jokes, “earned” by being the worst team in the league. I don’t want the “best chance” at securing the #1 pick if we have to go through that crap again. Give me the #7 pick and Greg Monroe or Ed Davis or any one of the dozen players that we don’t know about yet.
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by section214 on Aug 4, 2009 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just like an old time Kings fan to ask for the #7 pick.
I see 5-8 games better but you never know, this team could get on a role and put up 30 wins.
"Or, as Randy Jackson would say: Not feelin’ it, dawg."
-bench-blob- posting virgin.
by jjham15 on Aug 4, 2009 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
35 sounds right to me!
I think I said 33 wins a month ago. I can only hope for the best. Go Kings.
Sactown Royalty: 4,080 Fat Sean May jokes and counting...
by JETisKing on Aug 4, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You might not want to hear this
but Miller and Salmons were responsible for some of those 17 wins last year. The Kings were a better team with them on the roster. I’m glad their gone so the real rebuilding can finally begin, but losing those two does not make the team better in the short term.
I definitely don’t think they’ll do worse without them (I like JJ’s 5-8 win improvement prediction), but doubling the win total seems a wee bit optimistic this year.
by Charlieb on Aug 5, 2009 4:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for this, 214.
Go to the game in hopes of entertainment. If a Kings win actually breaks out, bonus!
So true. Hopefully, we’re all basketball fans first and Kings fans second. This game is way too beautiful to be blinded by ugly losses. That being said, I did find myself bitter and disillusioned whenever Brad, Beno and other Kings turned the ball over in the last five minutes of competitive losses last season.
Go Kings!
October 28th couldn't come soon enough.
by JETisKing on Aug 4, 2009 9:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
"Hopefully, we’re all basketball fans first and Kings fans second."
True, but would any fan of a 50 win team say that?
(BTW, can’t do the quote thing from a mobile, so just imagine the purple box.)
by Rickyflip on Aug 5, 2009 11:59 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Bravo
During this period, Kings fans (like all creatures of survival), adapted to their environment. Draft night ruled. No, not college draft night. Game ticket draft night. I’ll take the Lakers game, you take the Bulls, I take the Pistons…A Kings’ fan in the ‘80’s – early ‘90’s was a fan that was as interested in seeing Kareem, Magic, Isaiah, Sir Charles, MJ, Larry, Hakeem as they were in seeing Reggie, Mitch, Wayman, LaSalle, Lionel, and the rest of the gang. There were two NBA’s back then – theirs and ours. It was easy to appreciate and not hate. We’d flock to ARCO to see the stars as they came to town, with a win being an afterthought.
You my friend are a great writer. That was like taking a trip in a time machine.
by bignerd on Aug 4, 2009 9:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
apropos of nothing...alternate nickname for #18: Prince Casspian?
Life is every mammal's journey from very very wet to very very dry.
by Holmdel on Aug 4, 2009 10:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
My 3 wishes oh genie of the upper level:
1 – If this team were to win just one more game this season but played with fortitude and attitude I would be a very happy Kings fan.
2 – If this team carried itself with that Kings blend of chemistry and comraderie, I would be a very happy Kings fan
3 – If the concept of a new arena became an actual plan, I would be a very happy Kings fan
oh, and rec’d for good cheer and good sense.
by betweentheeyes on Aug 4, 2009 10:44 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Look, we could lose 82
but if we gave teams a run for their money in all 82 games, I’d still be OK. It’ll suck, but all I ask for and expect is a good basketball game, with our guys doing everything they can (in a positive way) to play hard and win.
Of course I can dream of us crushing the Lakers, making the playoffs, Reke be LeBron Mk.2. I know it probably won’t happen, but I still can’t think of a time when I’ve been more excited about being a Kings fan.
Sean May is not fat. It's widescreen distortion.
by elfboy_ on Aug 5, 2009 12:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If I can't call them the Magoof's
I just don’t know what I’ll do with myself. Sniff sniff sniff
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Aug 5, 2009 3:41 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
New to town...
Moved out here in Oct. Followed the Kings as religiously as possible.
Sec, what (if any) is the difference in ticket prices from ’88 to now? I would LOVE to go see some of the talent that plays the Kings (and the Kings themselves natch), but the pricepoints are too high for my blood. I cannot make a split decision to say “Yea, why not. LeBron and Hawes would be fun for 45 dollars.”
Just curious, I grew up in a minor league (MAJOR college) city.
by Jaif on Aug 5, 2009 4:06 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I had season tickets for a few years beginning in 88 or 89
they were the cheapest seats. I think they were $8 a piece, maybe $9.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Aug 5, 2009 6:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As kfan noted, I remember them as being just under $10
There are very limited numbers of $10 gamed-day tickets available this year. The next price point is $25.50. My blind guess (meaning that I’m too lazy to research it) is that the overall price increase over that span would be in line with the increase in the price of gas or milk. That said, no one is too happy over the price increases that we have seen in gas and milk.
The Kings decreased ticket prices for this year. As I pay for my ticket package, it still feels like too much. But I know that I will change my mind once the season begins.
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by section214 on Aug 5, 2009 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Using a handy-dandy inflation calculator
a 10 dollar ticket in 1985 when the Kings first moved would now cost 19.75.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement and Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order.
by Aykis16 on Aug 5, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would just like to thank you
for the irregardless part. Maybe one man can make a difference.
by Charlieb on Aug 5, 2009 4:40 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I sense a new attictude this year
Last year our perception was that the Kings “fell” to a new low of 17 wins. This year the new Kings might “rise” to a new high of 18 wins! By setting the low last year, we now have a benchmark for satisfaction.
Unless of course, they lose more than 17 games. Then woe.
by Citadel 29 on Aug 5, 2009 7:03 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If nothing else
I can always count on the folks at StR to tell me how to be a fan…and what words are and aren’t appropriate to use.
by DustyG on Aug 5, 2009 9:07 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sour news for 'ya, Dusty
Magoof is not a word.
And if you want to stomp your feet and hold your breath and make bad puns about the Maloofs’ name every time the Kings lose, that’s your prerogative. We’ll all just wait until you tire yourself out to have grown-up time.
by furious.d on Aug 5, 2009 10:09 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve never said Magoof before, and I dont have any problem with losing during rebuilding. My comment above is purely intended to provide criticism of the “I’ve been around a long time, and this is how you post/support a team/use punctuation/use words” sentiment that I see in this post and elsewhere on the site. So please don’t treat me as an outsider for being critical, but someone who is familiar with the site and is trying to improve it. The post has a tone of ‘talking down’ to the casual fan, I think.
Having said that, I think the post is well-intended and well-executed, and I think many of the points are fun.
by DustyG on Aug 5, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
I think it’s okay for one of the editors of the site to make a request regarding standards of conduct, especially in the lighthearted way that Section did. As he said, most of the stupid crap that some people choose to do here won’t get you banned, it’s just annoying and often frustrating for most of the StR community. It’s like going to a Star Wars convention and wearing a “Fuck George Lucas” T-Shirt; it’s certainly your right, but there’s no question that it’s disrespectful.
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Aug 5, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What point are you disagreeing on? I never said making a request like you say is not okay.
It’s not even that I feel that I am the target of the ‘talking down’; I just dont think it’s constructive, and we come off as elitist to would-be posters. And that’s a general comment – I dont think that section’s comments here are all that condecending – they just are part of the greater issue I’m not a fan of. That’s my criticism.
by DustyG on Aug 5, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Usually I take being called an elitist as a criticism
But in this case, I hold that particular virtue up with pride.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Aug 5, 2009 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didnt call anyone an elitist
and why in this case would you be proud?
by DustyG on Aug 5, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most of the newerish readers are not bringing I feel is tangible
That is elitism.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Aug 5, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
not bringing things are that tangible^
Lets utilize the crappy sentence that way.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Aug 5, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not going to get into picking your words apart
Just be aware that your comment was taken as a direct reply to Section’s post because it was, well, literally a direct reply to Section’s post, and that’s why your comments are being scrutinized on those terms.
I know though that the general sentiment that you speak of has been brought up before, so it’s not totally out of place, I just think it apparently confuses what you were actually trying to say by bringing it up here.
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Aug 5, 2009 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I do think Section's post
is condecending; that’s why I replied to it. I said that this post seems to fit with a pattern I have noticed and don’t like.
I’m fine with being scrutinized – I posted so that people would think about what I wrote. I dont mean to further the Us versus Them mentality on the site, tho, which I feel is what’s happening.
by DustyG on Aug 5, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You said earlier
“I don’t think that section’s comments are all that condecending.” That’s why I’m choosing not to jump into the fray here. You seem to be handling both sides of the argument all by yourself.
Summarizing, I am pretty condescending for a guy that is not too condescending, or I’m not too condescending for a guy that’s condescending. I can live with that.
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by section214 on Aug 5, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
There you go with your fancy elitist logic again
I guess the gist of this story is that some people would like to feel like they’re able to come to StR and not make any damn sense. Whatever.
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Aug 5, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What I meant by that
is that your comments are less condecending relative to other condecending posts that I have seen here that make a pattern. However, I feel like there is quite a bit of talking down, as I mentioned before. I hope you can use that as constructive criticism. I like StR and I feel that I am a constructive member—that’s exactly why when I see something that I think is an issue, I bring it up.
by DustyG on Aug 5, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I prefer delving into the specifics
Painting with a broad brush just doesn’t do it for me. What is it specifically in this post that you see as condescending?
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by section214 on Aug 5, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't matter what I find condescending
It’s irregardless.
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
by Exhibit G on Aug 5, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sure,
Saying “That’s OK, kids” when referring to newer fans comes off as condescending to me.
Also, as I mentioned in my reply to the original post, the concept of the article seems to be to tell people how to be a fan, how to watch games, what’s appropriate when proposing trades, and what words aren’t good to use. To me that comes off as talking down, especially when viewed the pervasive dynamic I mentioned above.
by DustyG on Aug 5, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To me it comes off as funny and as friendly advice on how to rein in unrealistic expectations
Jeez Louise, do we need to be walking on egg shells for fear of offending people here? This is getting ridiculous.
From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.
by My Losing Season on Aug 5, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Point taken
I wouldn’t say it’s ridiculous; but I appreciate your point.
by DustyG on Aug 5, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hyperbole
Ridiculous overstates it perhaps. But I really found nothing objectionable in Section’s post. It was fun, funny, and showed a lot of comaradarie and good-natured fellowship. I detected nothing antagonistic about it.
From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.
by My Losing Season on Aug 5, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow man,
I just wish someone could read you this piece because you obviously are missing the tone of section’s voice. Sorry if that was condescending but some people put themselves in position to be talked down to and right now youre at the bottom of the well.
by passionforPERPS on Aug 5, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't imagine
how the use of the word “kids” was in any way, shape or form condescending, as that was certainly not my intent. But if I insulted you, I apologize.
Any other specifics of this post bothering you?
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by section214 on Aug 5, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand if you say it was not your intent to be condescenting. But saying that you can’t imagine that in any way referring to someone as a child could be interpreted as talking down, I don’t understand.
Is this bit I brought up before not specific enough?
“the concept of the article seems to be to tell people how to be a fan, how to watch games, what’s appropriate when proposing trades, and what words aren’t good to use.”
Thanks for the apology, but it isn’t necessary. I dont think the talking down is aimed at me, even. I just mean to bring the issue up cause it’s all over the site, and i noticed a bit of it in your post-even if it wasnt intended. But I didnt mean to cause such a fuss, and surely I dont want to further the Us versus Them divide. Go Kings.
by DustyG on Aug 6, 2009 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
how about

you can’t win for losing
by betweentheeyes on Aug 6, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I love it bte
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Aug 7, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In closing
I am condescending according to your interpretation of my writing, while others do not find me condescending. Perhaps this has more to do with you than me.
Gee, I sure hope that didn’t sound condescending.
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by section214 on Aug 6, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't sound condescending
and your sound might not be condescended……
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Aug 7, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about we change it from condescending to condensation
And we all chill?
by betweentheeyes on Aug 7, 2009 10:29 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a relatively recent newcomer (May '09)
And I never felt that the site veterans were being condescending. StR upholds certain very basic standards for intelligent dialogue, which I immediately recognized as appropriate, and which newcomers disregard at their peril.
Note to Section: Thank you for the “irregardless” comment. Educated people who should know better use that non-word constantly. Drives me freakin’ crazy.
From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.
by My Losing Season on Aug 5, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where do I get one of those shirts!!!!!!!!!
Ba-da
by Ba-Da Bing on Aug 5, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Lucas shirt. My post went pretty far down to who I was replying to . . .
I forgot it does that.
Ba-da
by Ba-Da Bing on Aug 5, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In a galaxy far, far away
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Aug 6, 2009 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm
The guys behind Russell appears to be Michael Jackson….Cant tell you the meat in the Klein-Jackson sandwich is tho?
Great point on Sergio Rodriguez…. He’s gonna play a major role for the Kings this year. Ihonestly see him getting 15+ minutes a night.
by Hoops916 on Aug 5, 2009 9:13 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
I remember Theus having a much lighter complexion than the guy between Jacko and Joe there. In fact, it was very similar to the caramel coloration that the King of Pop is wearing here.
by furious.d on Aug 5, 2009 9:57 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I think
Eddie Johnson is the other feller. I think he was a coach for the hornets or something at sometime.
by DustyG on Aug 5, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
After some research
No pro coaching experience, but he did play for the Hornets.
by DustyG on Aug 5, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Either Joe wasn't in on the joke
Or it was completely F’ing lame.
Probably the latter.
From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.
by My Losing Season on Aug 5, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
From the left -
Bill Russell, Reggie Theus, LaSalle Thompson, Joe Kleine.
SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!
by section214 on Aug 5, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah
LaSalle Thompson, I thought it was Eddie Johnson.
by DustyG on Aug 5, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eddie could never be that dark
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Aug 5, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
I wasn’t.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Aug 5, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
there aint much difference in those dudes’ shades
by DustyG on Aug 5, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Aug 5, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look closer it's (from the left)
Bill “bad decisions” Russell, Lando Calrissian, “The Tank”, and the white guy who should have been Karl Malone.
Your welcome.
Ba-da
by Ba-Da Bing on Aug 5, 2009 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
is Sergio the one with the arrow ungua chest here?
Or is that Beno and Sergio is the survivor? Or is Sergio the one who shot Beno? I’m confused.
by Ice_9ine on Aug 5, 2009 9:45 AM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
whats an ungua
I meant in the
by Ice_9ine on Aug 5, 2009 11:05 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
A common mistake
I do it all the time (i.e., never (i.e., how the hell did you manage that one?))
From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.
by My Losing Season on Aug 5, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will this be Sergio's last stop this year?
No interviews, no chatter, no Voisin articles… has the dude even visited Sacramento yet, apart from as a Blazer?
Could he be here just to help package KTEC in a trade? I hope not…
by Rickyflip on Aug 5, 2009 12:13 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Congrats, you made Truehoop
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-43-13/Wednesday-Mini-Bullets.html
Don’t know if you saw this yet, but I guess they liked your Sergio line.
by SPTSJUNKIE on Aug 5, 2009 1:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The single most brilliant line of the post, IMO
That and the picture caption.
From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.
by My Losing Season on Aug 5, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This might be a first for 214
I wuz gonna say it wuz no biggie, but that would be true of TZ. Congrats 214.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Aug 5, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Section's been linked there before
I recall 2 times, but I couldn’t tell you which articles they were.
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
by Exhibit G on Aug 5, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh okay
Strike previous sentiment away then.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Aug 5, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In case you were wondering, Sergio is not on the Spanish national team for the EuroBasket
They found a lot of point guards ahead of him. Rubio, Llull, Lopez, Cabezas, Sada, Ribas. He isn’t even on the extended roster, before trimming it down to 12 for the tournament. And that is without Calderon playing.
"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw
by Norsktroll on Aug 5, 2009 3:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The only thing I hate more than "irregardless" is
“a whole nother”
"You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, and the three most powerful men in America are named 'Bush', 'Dick', and 'Colon.' Need I say more?"
-Chris Rock
by Big ZK on Aug 5, 2009 8:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Irregardless
That’s a whole nother story.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Aug 6, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lmao
When I here someone say “a whole nother” I can usually let it slide because it does kind of sound right, but when people write it it makes my blood curdle.
"You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, and the three most powerful men in America are named 'Bush', 'Dick', and 'Colon.' Need I say more?"
-Chris Rock
by Big ZK on Aug 6, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about "A f***ing nother"?
Is that OK?
From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.
by My Losing Season on Aug 6, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only if it is hurled as an insult.
Don’t be a f***ing nother.
Or is that, don’t be a notherf***er?
Sean May is not fat. It's widescreen distortion.
by elfboy_ on Aug 7, 2009 3:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Use "nother" in a sentence
One f***er is as good as a nother f***er.
From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.
by My Losing Season on Aug 7, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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