Another BIG possibility
by adamsite on Aug 5, 2009 10:06 AM PDT
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With all the talk of a needed BIG to back up Hawes and the total lack of want for Beno with the addition of Tyreke and Sergio, I thought I would toss out another wannabe GM trade scenario. Currently, Charlotte has 4 centers on their roster...Chandler, Diop, Mohammad, and Ajinca...clearly more than playing time will allow. My amateur idea is to trade Beno for Diop (a serviceable shot blocking, rebounding big with little offensive skill). They have virtually identical contracts...which really doesn't dissolve Beno's cash commitment. Not sure if Charlotte would want Beno, but they are going to have a hard time keeping both Felton and Augustin happy, therefore Beno could be their backup if they were to let go of one of those young talents. Again, I'm just throwing this out there for conversion during the doldrums of August. This is my first post, by the way, so be kind :)
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i like it!
i’m new too, and I like your idea~
what about that big dude from Utah? Frensko ?
by AndyGatesFreeman on Aug 5, 2009 10:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I like him too...
I just think he’s a little less proven and we don’t really have a contract to swap for him. I only see us dealing a pick to get Frensko…which only adds to the salary cap. I just like the idea of moving Beno…I’m just worried of his attitude and apathy this year if he doesn’t get the minutes, then he will truly be untradeable to other teams as a malcontent.
by adamsite on Aug 5, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fesenko not Frensko
As a new guy, my advice to you is to learn to use the search feature. Fesenko has been discussed 100’s of times. As has the reason why Utah wouldn’t trade Beno for him. And, why Utah isn’t looking to take on any more salary.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
by HighTops on Aug 5, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i choose not to use the search feature, and i don’t care how many times it’s been discussed!
by AndyGatesFreeman on Aug 5, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't mind that -
But it is alarming that Dwayne Schintzius avatars now outnumber Joe Kleine avatars 2 to 1 on this site.
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by section214 on Aug 5, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'll tell you what
It was a tough choice between the two
by AndyGatesFreeman on Aug 5, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Andy, here's your sign:
Toodles!
"It would be my honor to be your new stepfather."
by PhutureKings on Aug 5, 2009 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Harsh
But the whole “I don’t care how many times it’s been discussed” crap is as arrogant as it is ignorant.
The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.
by LeaguePassAddict on Aug 5, 2009 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know what it is
you just don’t like Dwayne’s mullet!
by AndyGatesFreeman on Aug 6, 2009 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only because his is better than mine.
But seriously, coming in here and discussing something that has been discussed to death already and then saying that you don’t care and you’re not going to use the search feature is like walking in on the middle of a movie and expecting everyone in the theater to either watch the first half again or stop the movie entirely and explain it to you.
Interestingly enough, the people here have been actual people having actual conversations long before you decided to grace us with your presence.
The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.
by LeaguePassAddict on Aug 6, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You Morman girls are so picky I swear
Jeeshus Latter Day Saints LPA!
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Aug 6, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
(Sorry, that joke couldn't be helped)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Aug 6, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You could help it.
You just have no self control.
By choice.
The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.
by LeaguePassAddict on Aug 7, 2009 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahem
I have self control. It’s just disseminated differently than everyone else. :)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Aug 7, 2009 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
only you could re-define "control"
and get away with it
by betweentheeyes on Aug 8, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
News Flash for you
We are talking about sports here pal, not curing cancer. Here’s how I approach it,……. as freaking recreation!!!! That means I don’t jump on someone who doesn’t “research” his post. Of course I don’t research what I’m going to say about basketball!!! We’re talking about grown men bouncing balls around! I don’t like being lectured how to talk about freaking sports! If I want rules I’ll go stare at a stop sign, this is a place to come and shoot the breeze and have a laugh, not get into a pissing contest about who knows what.
by AndyGatesFreeman on Aug 6, 2009 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Pretty sure I'd lose a pissing contest.
Girls can’t aim.
Also pretty sure I’m not your pal.
We’re all here to talk about sports. But rules are what make a society function. Otherwise it’s total anarchy. To quote the inimitable Jack Sparrow, they’re more like guidelines anyway. And they’re for your own benefit so that people don’t think you’re a complete moron or simply a rude buffoon.
Not to lecture you or anything, Andy.
The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.
by LeaguePassAddict on Aug 7, 2009 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Can't believe I didn't think of this earlier
Pretty sure I’d lose a pissing contest. Girls can’t aim.
I beg to differ madam. You just aim with a different purpose. :)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Aug 8, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
???
If I want rules I’ll go stare at a stop sign
Alright…who rec’d this??
by Charlieb on Aug 8, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually saw him staring at the stop sign.
His lips were moving.
The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.
by LeaguePassAddict on Aug 10, 2009 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Hey I spent 12 hours coming up with that!
It was between a stop sign and a traffic light
by AndyGatesFreeman on Aug 13, 2009 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aykis!
Resist the urge. We know, we ALL know. No sense creating multiple accounts to spread your propaganda. And then misspelling the name – smooth move.
(/sarcasm)
Victory is tasty.
by iashwash on Aug 5, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lol
I was wondering when my name would come up. But if Fesenko ever comes to Sac, I’m taking full credit.
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by Aykis16 on Aug 5, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a half bad idea.
Both of these guys have crappy contracts and this would allow Charlotte to tell Ray Felton to go F-himself while opening up the position for DJ. Diop can give you a solid 15 minutes a game if need be as a rebounder and shot blocker. I think Beno could help Charlotte as well but Larry Brown would never put up with his no D B.S.
"Or, as Randy Jackson would say: Not feelin’ it, dawg."
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by jjham15 on Aug 5, 2009 11:21 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree JJ
I don’t believe LB wants anything to do with Beno Udrih
I would love for that trade to go down though
Grant Napier is a Ginger, he can't help it that he's annoying.
by Dastardly D on Aug 5, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
May not matter what LB wants at this point
They may force him to live with a Beno like player on the roster.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Aug 5, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know if I'd trade one albatross for another
even if its a position of need. It will likely only be a position of need for a year or two, especially with a draft next year loaded with bigs.
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by Aykis16 on Aug 5, 2009 11:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Completely irrelevant reply
I finally e-mailed you RE: the DK project.
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Aug 5, 2009 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And now that I have both your and G's thoughts
I’ve got a pretty good idea of where I want to go with it.
This thread seems like the perfect place to say that I plan on a Friday or Saturday DK and the Hummus of Horror debut.
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by Aykis16 on Aug 5, 2009 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If this is the perfect place...
…then I don’t want to know the other forums that were considered.
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
by Exhibit G on Aug 6, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Diop is a good defender
I would rather have him than Beno.
But I think we all are going to have to resign ourselves to the fact that nothing is going to happen until the trade deadline.
Geoff wants to get maximum value on his returns for K9, Noce, and whoever else might be thrown in. And I think it will benefit the Kings if we can pick up some draft picks in next years loaded draft, but without sacrificing our position in the lottery.
Don’t wanna be too good too quick! Diop is a bandaid and will not help us in the long run.
I hate rebuilding.
by Ice_9ine on Aug 5, 2009 12:05 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't mind a Thomas for Jeffries swap
If they threw Jordan Hill or Wilson Chandler into the deal.
BOOK IT!
by kingme18 on Aug 6, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
boredom and the trade machine
Instead of Diop (3 year deal)… how about Beno and Noc for Nazr Mohammed (two year deal) and G. Wallace (3 year deal). Trade machine likes it… do we? G has a pretty fat contract but its the same length as both Beno and Noc’s, but if you are going to pay roughly the same money, shouldn’t we get some production from it? Bobcats seem more interested in reducing payroll and with Noc’s declining contract, and saving about $2M this year alone, they might go for it (witness the Chandler/Okafor deal).
by longtimelistenerfirsttimecaller on Aug 5, 2009 1:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I like it
But I don’t see Charlotte doing that. It’s too big a talent dump and it doesn’t provide them enough contract relief.
It would be great to have G-Dub back, and Nazr would be a decent defense-oriented back-up. Wallace is of course an injury risk due to his trapeze act style, and his contract is fairly huge, but he is such a dynamic presence out there: scoring, rebounding, passing, stealing, shot-blocking. Plug him in at the starting 3 and you’ve got Reke, Martin, Wallace, JT, Spence. Helluva good young line-up there.
From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.
by My Losing Season on Aug 5, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am confused, wasn't Diop drafted by Memphis this past June at the #2 slot?
by betweentheeyes on Aug 5, 2009 3:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
no that was Hakim Warrick
Ask their coach, Lionel Simmons.
by Ice_9ine on Aug 5, 2009 4:13 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
You're thinking of Thabust.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement and Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order.
by Aykis16 on Aug 5, 2009 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
their scouting department may draft him next year though
by Gnomercy on Aug 5, 2009 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why not give Beno Udrih and Andres Nocioni
For Elton Brand a try?
BOOK IT!
by kingme18 on Aug 6, 2009 12:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
How about not?
Where does Elton Brand fit in? The guy has a huge onerous contract (4 years, $66M), major injury problems in the past two seasons (missed 127 games), and he doesn’t address a position of need. The last thing the Kings need to be doing is adding a huge contract for an injury-prone player at a position they don’t need.
From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.
by My Losing Season on Aug 6, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
????
Dude… Beno AND Andres for Elton? Two subpar talents for a player who can bounce back and be GREAT? And it’s not like the Kings will be spending significantly more anyway.
The trade would never happen, though I love the irony of it basically being the reverse of the Chris Webber trade. Chances are the Kings end up eating the last three years of the contract and are condemned to league loss hell – but if Brand ever bounces back, you basically got something for nothing, and he instantly becomes a huge trade asset. It’s a gamble, but I would not outright dismiss the notion.
That said, Sixers don’t do the deal, and if they do then that’s a big warning sign that the Kings shouldn’t do the deal.
Victory is tasty.
by iashwash on Aug 6, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I should open my own donkey transport business
Because you are riding my ass all over this blog. :D
From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.
by My Losing Season on Aug 6, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And anyway
I think you supported my arguments even better than I did.
From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.
by My Losing Season on Aug 6, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Better IW than me
Cuz he’s quite nicer and genteel than I am.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Aug 6, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
Sorry about that :-)
Victory is tasty.
by iashwash on Aug 6, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's all in good fun, my man
Keep rockin’ the house.
From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.
by My Losing Season on Aug 6, 2009 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd prefer...
Nazr myself. Vet, with a more well-rounded game and a friendlier contract to boot.
by Smills91 on Aug 6, 2009 6:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I like it
However, I’m not totally sure of the point guard quality of Sergio (never really watched him play). If Sergio can provide as a good backup PG, then I’d be all for it. I’m not convinced JT can play the 5 at this point in his career.
by CloudyEyes on Aug 6, 2009 8:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
we NEED it!
we need an African center! Spencer is sick but for a back up, we need an aggressive rebounder and blocker.
by Kings408 on Aug 8, 2009 10:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Race has nothing to do with anything.
The draft lottery has reinforced my belief that there are not enough bad words in the English language.
by LeaguePassAddict on Aug 10, 2009 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I personally think
That the Kings need an Australian aborigine small forward.
From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.
by My Losing Season on Aug 10, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nathan Jawai isn't available?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Aug 10, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about Inuit then?
Or Ainu. Kurd, maybe? I’ve got it, Sikh!
The Kings definitely need a Sikh shooting guard.
From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.
by My Losing Season on Aug 10, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kings want Jawai?
Send DAL the Kings 2nd rounder and you got Jawai on a plane to SAC that minite. (ticket paid by Mark Cuban).
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.-1984 George Orwell.
by tomkanti on Aug 10, 2009 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you an idiot?
Seriously.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Aug 10, 2009 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you are all such geocentrists
I was hoping for the Kings to get someone otherworldly.
by betweentheeyes on Aug 12, 2009 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please welcome the Kings' new shooting guard
From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.
by My Losing Season on Aug 13, 2009 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He looks more like someone I'd want guarding the post than a perimeter player
And with the extensible jaws comibined with the leaping ability can you imagine how many blocked shots this guy will get? I’d imagine that this guy would be pretty hard on the basket ball. Blocked shots could regularly result in a shredded ball. Is there a penalty for causing damage to the ball?
by hozr on Aug 13, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Time out has been called because the shooting guard is bleeding
And as a result there is a twelve-foot crater at mid-court.
From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.
by My Losing Season on Aug 13, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least he'd have to get off the court until the bleeding was controlled
But man I sure wouldn’t want to be Pete Youngman in that situation.
by hozr on Aug 13, 2009 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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