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30Q: Can Omri Casspi Contribute From Day 1?

30Q asks the important questions about the Kings all through September.

Omri Casspi has a lot of weight on his shoulders.

Not from Kings fans, or really the basketball side of the Kings organization. The team has shown patience when it comes to young players -- perhaps too much patience. On the business side, Casspi has been used as a selling point more than any other rookie in recent Kings memory. That's a good thing for the team and the player -- the franchise need to score support any way it can, and popularity will only help Casspi down the line when he's up for a contract. It's a win-win.

But the basketball court is what we're concerned with, and it's really a mystery as to exactly how Omri plays and exactly what he'll be able to do from Day 1.

We've heard about the toughness, the energy, the passion. But what about his skills? What will Casspi do for the Kings in his early escapades?

Star-divide

The first thing that stuck out from Casspi's summer league run was that he's really not afraid to mix it up in the lane. Only Hoss Brockman and Bob Battle recorded more offensive rebounds per minutes than Casspi, who spent most of his time at the small forward. Yep, Omri outrebounded Jason Thompson (a top 20 NBA offensive rebounder last season) per minute. Casspi ranked fifth on the team in per-game rebounding, with 4.4 in 22 minutes. That translates to roughly 7.2 rebounds per 36 minutes; for contrast, that outpaces every 2008-09 Kings small forward (including Andres Nocioni, who averaged 7 reb/36 min). This is summer league, yes, but there are plenty of great rebounders in summer league. Like, you know, Hoss Brockman and Bob Battle.

This contrasts a bit with Casspi's Euroleague profile, where he didn't rebound quite as well. We'll see how that shakes out, though Casspi should by default be a better rebounder than John Salmons or Francisco Garcia.

Casspi actually became a very good (if infrequent) deep shooter in Israel, something which did not translate to Las Vegas. Last year in 16 Euroleague games, Casspi shot 45% from three. In five VSL games, he shot 29%. Nailing the three is critical for most NBA small forwards, and developing (or refining) that shot is vital to Casspi's development. He, David Thorpe and the Kings coaching staff all surely know that. Pete Carril is essentially playing the role of shot doctor this season, and I bet Casspi will be a top client.

Where I'm most excited about Casspi's long-term opportunities is as a point-forward in the mold of Hedo Turkoglu: someone to make smart decisions and take the pressure off of Tyreke Evans and Kevin Martin. But that will take time, so in the immediate I'm most excited about Casspi's transition game. We have seen the highlight reels, and ... actually, what the hell. Let's watch one again.

He runs like a damn Springbok! And he knows how to finish with authority. Just know that our new point guard will be one of our top defensive rebounders next season, and the new coach is a man who has long emphasized the importance of easy baskets in transition. If Casspi can sprint the floor and give Tyreke Evans a good target. fun will be had. We will have fun and cake and pop and DUNK.

At the same time, Francisco Garcia and Andres Nocioni are proven veterans, and they need minutes. Garcia is probably a better defender, and Nocioni is tough and a decent scorer. Unlike Evans, who almost takes the top PG spot by default at some point, Casspi will have to prove he belongs in the rotation first of all, and high in the rotation eventually. Luckily for us, he's working his ass off to make it, and he's bonded closely with the team's star. I have a good feeling about Omri, and I hope this season makes that feeling grow stronger.

Poll
How much will Omri Casspi play in 2009-10?
Garbage time only
92 votes
Minor role (10-15 min/game)
322 votes
In the Rotation (15-25 min/game)
133 votes
Starter minutes (25+ min/game)
8 votes

555 votes | Poll has closed

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that's the most pathetic highlight reel I've ever seen

Is it promoting the white-haired coach? An homage to hand gestures? Dunks and layups that edit out the parts that would tell you whether Prince Casspian is at all extraordinary?

Life is every mammal's journey from very very wet to very very dry.

by Holmdel on Sep 3, 2009 7:16 AM PDT reply actions  

You need to

watch more highlight reels if that’s the worst one you’ve ever seen.

by Tom Ziller on Sep 3, 2009 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

or maybe not...if they get even worse

Life is every mammal's journey from very very wet to very very dry.

by Holmdel on Sep 3, 2009 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

the song sucks...

“i’ve got soul, but i’m not a soldier” … omri was a soldier for cryin’ out loud.

by longtimelistenerfirsttimecaller on Sep 3, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

i listened with no sound

i would have liked it better with that song

Life is every mammal's journey from very very wet to very very dry.

by Holmdel on Sep 3, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

He needs seasoning.

Garbage time for sure. He’ll need extensive time learning to defend in the NBA – without fouling. I don’t see how he could be better than and get more minutes than Donte’e.

by Citadel 29 on Sep 3, 2009 7:28 AM PDT reply actions  

No offense...

but if you have trouble envisioning how Omri could be better than Mr. Donte Greene, you need a better imagination.

I would agree with garbage time minutes if this were the 2001-02 Kings were talking about, but we are talking about a team that won 17 games. Donte Greene is guaranteed zero minutes of playing time. If he does not show significant improvement this year, he will be out of the league. In my opinion, there will be plenty of opportunity for Omri to seize minutes at 3 spots (2,3,4), depending on the match-ups.

A high energy, multi-dimensional player who makes smart decisions will find a way into our rotation. Omri is this type of player.

by bench_blob on Sep 3, 2009 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd like to see him in a minor role,

but I think that he is destined for garbage minutes for this season. It will take the young man some time to learn the NBA game, and most of his early eduacation may come from facing off against Nocioni, Garcia and Greene.

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by section214 on Sep 3, 2009 7:39 AM PDT reply actions  

Honestly

Based on effort, I could see Casspi getting a minor role, especially if Donte plays some Power Forward minutes (I think May will act more as a backup Center). Otherwise, he’ll probably be a garbage time monster. I really like Omri. I was probably more excited to pick him than Tyreke, mainly cause I’d been tooting my own horn on the Zohan for a while.

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by Aykis16 on Sep 3, 2009 8:32 AM PDT reply actions  

Taking a look back about my fanpost on the Euro's, here is what I had to say about the Zohan:
Casspi is probably the best European in the draft next to Rubio this year, and is projected to go as high as 23, to the Kings, which Chad Ford has him currently slated as. The funny thing about Casspi is, he’s not the typical Petrie Europe SF a la Hedo or Peja. This guy is not known to be a very good shooter, although he’s very quietly getting better, making 45% of his Three pointers this season, up from 28.6% the year before. This guy is athletic and has a great wingspan, and scores by getting to the rim and finishing inside. He’ll need to work on his defense and ball-handling skills, as well as adding some muscle to his frame, in the NBA, but he could be a very good pick. DX lists his best case as Matt Harpring, and I say that’s a decent comparison, but I think Casspi will be much better at scoring.

And lo and behold Kings snagged him at 23.

And some predictions of mine that came true:

Would love Beaubois at 31. But I think he’ll get into the 1st round.

Ya Claver could be good, I think a team like Portland will take him though, mainly because they can afford to let him stay in Europe for a year or two.

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by Aykis16 on Sep 3, 2009 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nostradaykis

"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.

by AnotherStupidSN on Sep 3, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Even if he passes Greene

which, I think he might, that still only earns him garbage minutes. But I am actually voting for limited minutes because I think he gets maybe five to seven minutes a game—but, not just in garbage time. I think a high energy guy like him comes in at the end of a quarter or the end of the first half to spell someone. In my mind, garbage time means that he only comes in when the game’s outcome is determined.

"Shut up and Coach!"
Vfettke

by SavageBeast on Sep 3, 2009 8:34 AM PDT reply actions  

I have to believe he will be one ahead of Donté on the bench list

He has more versatility, he has more pro experience, he is more visible to fans, media, and he will play defense.

Of course, pre-season camp will show the coaching staff who goes where and with whom and that process is fluid as the year progresses. I think the other part of this question is: If Cisco, Noce and Casspi (and possibly Kevin Martin as a SF option when say, Sergio/Beno are teamed with Tyreke Evans in the backcourt and the Kings need scoring) are the rotational SFs how far to the end of bench is young Mr. Green to sit?

TZ: Again, thanks for this 30Q series. rec’d (X30).

by betweentheeyes on Sep 3, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I may be totally nuts

But I still believe Greene has the tools to be an amazing SF. He is long, athletic, he used to have range. I think he is more athletic than any SF on the team. But . . . if he can’t deliver this year, I expect to see him in Europe next year. Here’s hoping he amazes us all.

"Shut up and Coach!"
Vfettke

by SavageBeast on Sep 3, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nuts, sir, is one thing you are not. However, the potential you see may be hypnotizing, and when you awaken you will only remember the reality

Donté is all of those things: tall, athletic, skilled and should he learn to blend all of that talent he will be a possible All-Star. Today, he looks like a guy who left college too early and is regretting it but trying to make the best of his mistake and hoping he can find a place in the League.

In the meantime (if you are still hypnotized): Strip to down to your drawers and bark like a chicken!

by betweentheeyes on Sep 3, 2009 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I share your good feelings about Omri

And you didn’t even mention my favorite trait of his, his attitude. Honestly, I think it’s his heart and pride that could get him into some games this year. If our main rotation players are getting their tails kicked and start hanging their heads (if you can imagine that), it’ll be nice for Coach to have someone to throw into the game whose effort isn’t based on the scoreboard.

He might not have much effect on the outcome of the game for awhile, but he should at least help to keep us from slipping into “loser mode” like I’d contend we did last year. Even if we’re getting beaten by 20, Omri (and Garcia) will make sure you’re sore after the game.

"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.

by AnotherStupidSN on Sep 3, 2009 8:35 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Seems like the current group

should be a bunch of scrappers at least, Nocioni, Garcia, and hopefully Omri will keep going despite the score. That may not always bring more wins but it does help out when digesting the game.

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by Hilton on Sep 3, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would add Evans too

to that scrappers list. He should some of that in Vegas. It seems like JT could get that label too, but when I watch him play it just doesn’t look that way. It looks like he avoids the contact to much. The fouls that he does get are more just touch fouls from not moving his feet enough.

by markdog333 on Sep 3, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I predict Greene gets more minutes this and next season

Enough to push Omri into garbage time. However, I think Omri’s future looks pretty bright. Once the glut at SF gets situated, in time, Omri can have a real shot at making a 6th man or even starter. He’s working with Kevin at the IMG academy this summer, so, I hardly question his work ethic. Players that put in time to improve their game like that, during the summer, make it in this league.

There’s no denying Greene’s talent potential, on the other hand… but I don’t think he has anywhere close to the work ethic Omri’s showing right now. That’s why I think Greene will probably flame out in this league, as much as I hate to admit it. I’d love to be proven wrong, though.

by CloudyEyes on Sep 3, 2009 2:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Just maybe...

Greene should spend a little less time horsing around and spend a little more time practicing. Among other things 26% 3-pt shooting doesn’t cut it in the NBA. I realize he’s just a kid who probably doesn’t have to shave more than every fourth day, but someone needs to call him aside and explain the facts.

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by SayWhat? on Sep 3, 2009 6:31 PM PDT reply actions  

By all accounts

Greene has been working very hard this summer. I don’t think that “The Donté Greene Show” is stunting Greene’s growth.

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by section214 on Sep 3, 2009 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reading the title again

I would say that Casspi will contribute from day 1.

He brings intensity, drive, energy and ambition. I think that counts for a ton on day number one. If he can sustain those qualities by game #53, he might just be the overall fan favorite next season.

by betweentheeyes on Sep 3, 2009 11:33 PM PDT reply actions  

If you go by what coach Westphal said on the radio last night...

… he is looking for players that can bring something to the table. Some NBA QUALITY to the table. Like Rebounding, shooting, or hustle. If Casspi has any of these qualities at an NBA level, he will get playing time. I see him moving in front of Greene if he dont improve significantly this summer. It will all play out on the court. Players will determine who gets playing time by how they perform on the court against NBA players. I say he is a high energy guy who can shoot and hopefully wont be a defensive liability. that last one alone puts him in front of Greene.

Another year, another chance to hope for the team !!

by FaStRmAn on Sep 4, 2009 7:07 AM PDT reply actions  

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