Here 'Reke Comes to Save the Day: Kings 102, Nuggets 100
by Tom Ziller on Jan 10, 2010 7:41 AM PST
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The defense nearly failed the Kings, as the Nuggets tossed up 54 points in the first half on 22-44 shooting (50 percent). But the Kings offense exploded in the second half (21-37, 57 percent, including 6-8 on threes and 11-14 on free throws), and the defense did enough to limit the Nuggets to tough shooting (15-39, including 6-15 from three). Calming down the familiar early turnover issue (seven in the first quarter for Sacramento, nine spread out the rest of the way) was also a huge boon for the offense, which suffered from another bad night from Jason Thompson (five points on nine shooting possessions, three turnovers, zero assists, zero offensive rebounds) and Andres Nocioni (three points on four shots, one turnover, zero assists, zero offensive rebounds).
Omri Casspi got off to a slow start, but I would say he ended the game juuuuuuuust fine, with a simply monumental three late. Several plays led up to Reke's game-winner, but perhaps none were as important as Casspi's left-wing three with 1 min, 4 sec left. The Kings were down two, and a miss would have put Denver in the driver seat with nothing but open road ahead. But Omri very calmly sunk the bomb, giving the Kings a one-point lead. (A goaltend by Spencer Hawes on the other end gave Denver the lead back, but the Kings had a pulse and went on to put it away.)
Jon Brockman got his first NBA start. He committed four fouls in his 38 minutes. (Well, he was whistled for four. He probably committed 17 or so. Ask Chauncey Billups' bleeding gums.) He had 12 rebounds, seven of them on offense. The Kings' defensive rebounding was pretty poor with Brockman playing so many minutes, and the defense as a whole certainly underperformed (not commensurate to what it's been all year, but underperformed relative to expectations given a primarily defensive player replaced a primarily offensive player in the starting five, and that the opposing team's best weapon sat). Brockman ended up -3 on the night; Thompson was +7, Hawes -1, Kenny Thomas +3 in less than six minutes, and Nocioni (who was a power forward primarily) -10.
I thought Hawes played exceptionally well: his defense fairly sound (given the challenges facing an athletic whirlwind like Nene, a usually good shooter like Kenyon Martin and a walking duststorm like Chris Andersen), his offense basically brilliant. He set up Omri's key three, hit one of his one in the last five minutes and had a lovely, vital hook shot late as well. But it needs to be said:
Hawes' defensive rebounding rate: 16.7 percent. Two-guard/small forward Omri Casspi's: 15.7 percent.
This is both a flag on Hawes -- can the team ever compete defensively with a center rebounding like that? -- and a flag on Omri -- are you kidding me, Omri?! I'd blame a good portion of Toronto's defensive troubles on Andrea Bargnani's rebounding. And Bargnani is only a fraction of a percentage worse in defensive rebounding than Hawes. It's not a good sign going forward. Unless Thompson turns into Rodman (unlikely), Hawes must rebound the ball better on defense, or this team is likely consigned to playing from behind on that end forever.
(I can't believe I ended a recap of such a relieving, fulfilling game by again pointing out a negative I've bleated on about all season. Hmm ... think quick, think quick Ziller ...)
Is that Spencer Hawes, or David Thompson? Oh boy!
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Brockness starts...
I think this is the convincing argument that the Kings coaching staff are reading StR for tips.
Also, I love me some Paul Westphal! He knows what the team can do, he knows what he wants from the team, and he knows how to bring those 2 things together.
by Rickyflip on Jan 10, 2010 7:56 AM PST via mobile reply actions
A monster in the house
With Brockman starting and Udoka getting the call against the Warriors, Sergio is now the only player on the roster who hasn’t started a game.
I love that screen Brockman set on JR Smith in the first half. And while he didn’t convert a few bunnies, Brockman generally kept the ball alive even on his misses. Omri turned one of his misses into a basket. Keep shooting, big fella.
If Brockman’s rebounding 20% of our misses and we miss 40-50 shots a game, looks like he could get 10-12 offensive rebounds in a game. Get the same production on the defensive glass and I could see him getting 20+ in a game if he can avoid fouls and stay on the floor.
Oh, yeah, those other two rookies are pretty special, too.
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by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 10, 2010 8:23 AM PST reply actions
great job boys
it was great to get one of these close game wins that haven’t been ending well as of late. reke’s an absolute beast. didn’t sleep much last night and i liked it.
Hawes pass
was as critical as Omri’s made three. I thought he was going to shoot it! He did sink one for good measure. Hawes > JT in this game.
P.S. What’s wrong with JT?
Watching that replay of the game winner
A couple things come to mind:
- I was surprised they had Kenyon Martin covering Tyreke. But I guess it makes sense: shotblocker on guy who likes to drive.
- After the game, Tyreke tries to shake Martin’s hand, but Kmart disses him.
- It looks like Tyreke fouled the hell out of JR Smith on the last shot, or at least JR gave a great sales job to the ref, who wasn’t buying it. Tough to tell for sure given the angle. Lucky no call, or Tyreke could have gone from hero to goat in the blink of an eye.
- The Kings need to sign that guy on the left side of the baseline starting about the 1:28 mark. Kid’s got some hops.
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by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 10, 2010 8:43 AM PST reply actions
I saw the apparent Kenyon Martin snub, too!
And it did look like a foul to me, from that angle. Of course, JR Smith probably decided in advance that he’d flop on his face no matter the defense just to try to get the call.
They most likely put Kenyon on reke because he did a good job the other night on lebron late in the game and hope his length would filter him inside with the shotblockers
by luckybastard on Jan 10, 2010 9:33 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Teams will really have no choice but to try and put a big on him.
Tyreke is built like a small forward with a power forwards wing span. He is going to score all day on point guards trying to guard him. I think it was a good move for them to try and put an athletic big guy on him.
I don’t know how healthy Billups is. That is probably also a factor. He was obviously fine offensively, but groin injuries (that he just came back from) tend to show up a lot more on the defensive end. Guys know which way they are going on offense a lot of time and can control their motion, but defense is all about reaction and if that groin was still an issue, it may have impacted Karl’s decision. Billups is one of the bigger PG’s in the league though and it really says a lot that they didn’t opt for him on Tyreke at the end.
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the winning hoop was the play of the game, but Mr. BigShot's 28 footer that preceeded that
made me feverish because it was just plain sick.
Question: the Kings have played the Nuggets sans Billups the first time, no Melo the second. Which Denver team did you think was better?
by betweentheeyes on Jan 10, 2010 9:54 AM PST up reply actions
interesting, as the media is really pushing Melo into the Elite category
and he is not even close IMO. He does not seem to make his teams and teammates better. But the guy is a lethal scorer. I would take Durantula over Melo.
by betweentheeyes on Jan 10, 2010 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
Carmelo has been much better this season.
I thought he was really overrated in the past, but this was one of the few seasons where he appeared truly committed to improving his game.
He came into camp in excellent shape and has played some of the best basketball of his career in the early going.
Challenging the league for the lead in scoring, getting to the line more, trying to play more defense this year. I agree that he isn’t Kobe or LeBron, but he is still a pretty potent force by NBA standards. I really don’t know what else you could ask him to do. I think he is now working to maximize his talent and I don’t think that was the case earlier in his career.
The big thing that the Nuggets need, and it showed last night, is a lock-down type of defender. Afflalo just isn’t going to get it done for a contender. He is an offensive liability and usually giving up inches to other elite guards and can’t stop the scorers that Denver really needs to beat. You can’t put Kenyon on Tyreke or a Kobe very often.
Carmelo isn’t a lock down defender either, but he is doing his part to get his team in position to win. If they added that lock down type of defender (like Artest), they really would be a serious contender. Until then, they will continue to come up short and fail to stop teams with legit scorers, especially at the guard positions.
Fantasy sports author for Rototimes and Fanball. Northern California sports fanatic. Kings blog: Kingskingdom.com
They match up well with LA
Thats all that matters
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
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by lietothegirls on Jan 10, 2010 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
The one that has to play the Kings without Kevin Martin and Francisco Garcia.
They won’t get my pity for injuries. We even could have used Donte last night as well.
Denver has been an injury mess lately, so it’s really tough to answer this. I think they need both Billups and Carmelo on the floor obviously. They need everyone at full strength to really be the contender that they think they are. They need every single piece on their roster.
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that wasn't the question
of course they would be better with both All-Stars. No sympathy for their injuries either.
Which Denver team was better? and why? Please put your answer in the form of a question. Cue the music, Alex…
by betweentheeyes on Jan 10, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
I think that they are better
with Billups and ’Melo.
Interesting take when comparing Anthony and Durant. I would have instantly said Anthony, but you may be right. If you were starting a team today, Durant could very well be chosen before Anthony.
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Durant over Anthony
ALL day. Every NBA team, every NBA scout.
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?
what?
And how did I not answer your question?
They need both guys. They were better last night than the previous game if it is only an A/B answer Alex.
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it's just me being petulent
Yes, you did answer both and the bonus question.
by betweentheeyes on Jan 10, 2010 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
Its a tough call
But to win consistantly you need someone who can just fill it up. I’d say they’re marginally better with Carmelo for that reason.
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
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by lietothegirls on Jan 10, 2010 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
You don't think most scouts would take Durant?
More efficient scorer, better FG%, better FT%, better rebounder, with potential to be a much better defender and all of this at a much younger age. He is already outscoring Melo if you went with 40 minute per game averages.
I already think Durant is ahead of Melo and that is comparing a mature 25-year-old to a guy that just turned 21.
Durant has improved EVERY single year in the league and is still getting better. While I think that Carmelo has gotten a little better this year, he really hasn’t improved his game all that much throughout his career and his ceiling isn’t even close to Durants’. Durant has the ability to be a plus-plus defender if he ever commits to it. Something that Carmelo will never be.
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don't forget the dumbass factor
’Melo has been trouble, Durant wears a halo in comparison.
Melo seems like a guy to go out with after the game, Durant the guy who makes practice harder.
by betweentheeyes on Jan 10, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, Durant seems a lot more like Tiger Woo...
oh, nvm.
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by Kfan in Korea on Jan 10, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
They might
I wouldn’t. Carmelo’s PER this season is 25.18. And he’s still only 25. Carmelo’s not a great defender, but I’d take his defense any day of the week over Durant’s. To be honest, I wasn’t much of a Carmelo guy, but he showed his versatility in the playoffs last season. We don’t know what Durant will do when he has the pressure of leading a playoff team (we may find out this season though).
These aren’t knocks on Durant so much as positives for Carmelo. It would be a pretty nice choice to have to make, IMO.
"When you look at him, you say: 'Holy God.'" - Pete Carril on Tyreke Evans
Durant will put it ALL together IMO
and be a Superstar. Carmelo is a Star.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jan 10, 2010 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
Sums it up pretty well
ESPN 30 in 30 had an excellent interview with Carmelo that focused on how he has dealt with the baggage from his past and how he decided to change his worldview and lifestyle. He’s a sharp guy and this was an in depth interview and it really seems like he has turned his life around. He has changed, matured, improved and he’s not the same old ’Melo.
Like LBJ, he was deeply impacted by what he learned from Kobe during the 08 Olympics with regard to how hard you need to work and how committed you need to be a great player. I expect to see Carmelo continue to improve his game.
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I'm still not convinced
He isn’t the second coming of Vince Carter. I do like watching him play, though.
"When you look at him, you say: 'Holy God.'" - Pete Carril on Tyreke Evans
Oh -
And as of this moment, Billups is probably more important to Denver than Carmelo Anthoney. Nuggets fans may not agree, but Chauncey makes all of his teammates better, and he is cold-blooded.
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I think most of the Nuggets fans would probably agree
If they really know much about basketball.
I love Billups’ game. So underrated and already has the ring the Carmelo covets with minimal media attention. I loved when the media went nuts when the Nuggets deal A.I. thinking that Billups was a lesser version. It was clearly a deal that worked in their favor. Carmelo isn’t all that different from a larger A.I. All the hype, elite scorer, deficient in other areas that hurt his team and very difficult to mask. I really do think an elite defender at the 2 would really help though.
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I felt the same way
But Billups didn’t bring it against the Lakers in the playoffs last season, while Carmelo threw them on his back. Plus Billups missed a lot of big shots in that series that may have helped spring the upset.
"When you look at him, you say: 'Holy God.'" - Pete Carril on Tyreke Evans
Is there a video of that shot somewhere
I missed that segment, came back to TV with game tied and 11 seconds left and thought WTF …
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by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 10, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
Did you check Kingsflix on youtube?
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
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by lietothegirls on Jan 10, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
It was part of the ESPN game recap vid last night
I don’t know if that helps at this point
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It's here about 20 secs to go in the clip
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by Kfan in Korea on Jan 10, 2010 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
Its in the YouTube Kingsflix highlight clips
Beno to Hawes to Casspi
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jan 10, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
Its a lot more fun on Kingsflix with the crowd noise
The ESPN is a little Ho-Hum
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jan 10, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
I think you have the wrong shot
He’s looking for Billups’ shot that tied the game. Not a lot of crowd noise for that one.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jan 10, 2010 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I thought he was looking for the Casspi
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jan 10, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
nice recap TZ, rec'd
I think Spencer had a very superior offensive game. It is clear that whatever tentative thoughts Hawes displayed those first 15 games have disappeared, the kid is very smooth and confident on the O end. His passing is smart not “hot potato”, His jumper – which he was shooting on the way down and shorting his “OMG, not another” 3 pointers is on the money. Now the shots are dropping and you can see it perks up the rest of his game – he is taking hooks (harder to block) and mid-rangers.This is the Spencer Hawes (offensively) that ended last season. Welcome back Spence.
RekeRoy is really a joy to watch. Can we pencil in 20 ppg forever? As PW stated in his post game, the 1-4 flat is his choice for game finale – “and for all of you who don’t like it, it works”. Add Kenyon Martin to the list with Andrew Bogut for the Reke highlight resume collection. The Kings players are also more clued in, they gave Tyreke the spacing he needs to run his moves.
The most impressive thing about Omri is that he can turn a mediocre performance into an important one. That is what veteran starters bring to the table. The kid ain’t Tyreke but he is a solid rookie first teamer, and no doubt the starting 3 of the future.
Ice cold veteran stud move.
“He is a special special player.” – Jerry Reynolds.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
Tyreke ball handling and shooting...
has been a revelation since the start of the season. He was hesitant with his moves against defenders. His shooting motion was tentative, he wasn’t sure what he could do against NBA competitors. Understandable. But no more. Such is the learning curve with a phenom.
There is no better way to describe Tyreke’s game now than to say "Dude is ballin’! He has sweet handles with ball in traffic, switching hands, crossovers. Unsophisticated (to use a kind word) fans will say he is pounding the ball too much, but he is breaking down defenders, breaking ankles, and all that, and as long as he continues to find the open man, he will be given freedom to continue to ‘reke havoc’. (New nickname for Brandon Jennings: Reking Unhavoc. Or Brandon “Reking peace” Jennings, lol)
Last night was great win, and relief to win a close one after so many heartbreaks. The collective psyche of a team can take only so much before competitive spirit starts to wane. Now we try to sneak one on Tuesday, get K-Mart back, and try to do damage on the road.
One last observation: Tyreke is figuring out how to play with Spencer. Give Spencer room to operate. Feed him the ball around the free throw line. He will get it back to you. Spot him on the move and hit him with high passes. I am anticipating Spencer will raise his play second half of season as Tyreke and Spencer continue to develop together, and as we feature him more in offensive sets over JT, who is a fundamental faux-paus waiting to happen.
Spence is also key with Martin
Hawes experience with high post and cutters (ala Martin) will not need much re-training once the real “Kmart” is back.
Whats Udoka gonna go for in the offseason? Solid role player, no ego, does all the little things, great for injury and teaching the young-uns (young guns?).
I’m almost rooting for no trades, just to let PW continue what he has and not “force” adjustments with new player. Each player has been huge for us in some game or another, and everyone is buying into team concept, not sure about another player who is coming in from somewhere else.
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by SkylineFanatic on Jan 10, 2010 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
unless its Bosh
I am rooting for no trades.
by TheFifthMookie on Jan 10, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
I would be fine
dealing Noc for expiring. And if a contender is interested in Udoka, I would reward him and trade him for a 2nd round pick.
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Are you sure?
A late second round pick (i.e., probably nothing) for Udoka? I’d rather keep him.
Noc, yes.
From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.
by My Losing Season on Jan 10, 2010 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
I'd rather keep Udoka
But if his minutes are going to disappear once Martin and Garcia return, I’d like to see him moved to a contender. These are the types of moves that give Petrie and the Kings a good reputation with players and agents.
And remember, that late 2nd round pick could still be used in a Camby or Kurt Thomas type of deal, where a team that is looking to get under the luxury tax sends us a viable player for a 2nd round pick. Pie in the sky, I know. But something to consider.
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True, I'd hate to see him languish on the bench
But the trade deadline is not that far off, and durability remains a question mark for this team. Plus his leadership is important. I suspect he stays put unless a really irresistible deal presents itself. Then we can likely add him to the list of once-homeless free agents who resurrected their careers with the Kings: Beno, Dahntay Jones, Jim Jackson, Scot Pollard, etc.
From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.
by My Losing Season on Jan 10, 2010 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
good stuff MLS and you kind of touched on a question I've been wondering about.
I guess my question with regard to Ime is how much wear does he really have on his tires? It’s been written about often that the kids drafted out of high school, ie, Kobe and KG that when they hit around the 1000 NBA game mark they start to break down.
I know that Ime has played overseas, in the D League and sporadically with different NBA teams but not getting a lot of minutes, at least in the NBA. My guess is that Ime has a lot less wear and tear on than many 32 year old ballers do.
He has been a great pick up and value for the Kings. I’d like to see us sign him to a 2 year bi annual contract (think it’s available for us). Ime looks pretty durable to me and I don’t expect to see any real decline in his play. If we trade him to a contender, good for him. Guys like Ime are invaluable to a young team like the Kings and however you look at it, we are going to be a young team for a while.
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Playing to player's strengths as opposed to forcing roles that don't fit...
It seems like PW is getting better at figuring out how to play Spencer. The passes from Evans inside to Spence off of doubles, the use of Spence up high to pass in, and posting him up so he can drive… All of this is a good thing.
I think PW had to come down on Spencer. He didn’t participate in Summer League and it sounded like he either had ego issues or wasn’t buying into the new coaching, maybe both. Whatever is was there seemed a need to get Spencer’s attention and refocus him. PW seems to have accomplished this goal.
To be fair though I think there was a push to get Spencer to be somebody and play like a player that he isn’t. I think PW is also figuring out that he has to play Spencer to his strengths and not expect him to be a defensive presence that just isn’t him. Not force him into a role that just isn’t him.
Starting Brockman to make up for the lack of defense we have had and using Spencer more offensively is a good thing. It seems to reflect that PW is realizing there aren’t many other choices. I truly think it is best to use players to their strengths and not trying to force them into roles that don’t fit those strengths.
I think it's half
the coaching staff adapting and half the players learning. We gotta remember that this team pretty much began the year with a clean slate. New coach, new players, new system, new everything. There were going to be growing pains, and we were lucky to not see many at the very beginning. Now, we’re finally seeing them, and just like other teams are planning for us, we’re starting to learn about each other and realize what works.
I haven’t said this in a while, but Reke showed something different every game and though that has stopped a bit, he still shows something new from time to time. For example, those passs to Spence you mention, Reke wasn’t making those 5 games ago. He is now, because he’s learned how to read the double and is more comfortable in where Spencer is going to be once he rolls to the basket. I don’t think that’s a change in coaching strategy, as much as it is just Reke and Spence being comfortable with each other.
I don’t expect PW to suddenly have a set rotation. I think he’s shown he’s willing to mix it up and find whatever works during the games; I think that shows how good of a coach he is. At the same time, just to get a feel for what works (maybe ahead of time) he just needs time; they all need time.
We have such a young team, with a new coach that hasn’t been in the league for a while, an we’re still playing good basketball, with the occasional brain farts and lack of execution (expected of this type of team of course). I think that’s pretty remarkable.
I think we’ll continue to see improvement as the players get more familiar with each other, especially the young guys. Not sure if this will show in the record (I personally don’t care much about that) but I think that the execution will slowly improve and the coaching will continue to adjust as to give the team a better chance of winning games.
To sound like a broken record, that’s why we have to go through the growing pains, so that there’s a reward at the end. At least that’s how I see it.
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Oh, No! Reke is nearing the ceiling of his potential!
Reke showed something different every game and though that has stopped a bit, he still shows something new from time to time.
;p
Good points about Reke and Spencer starting to mesh.
On PW’s rotations.
I remember before the Garnett trade when Rivers was on the hot seat, Bill Simmons used to rip him constantly for not having set rotations. Then during their championship season, that changed and he was praised for keeping everyone involved and ready to contribute when needed.
The moral is, “It doesn’t matter what you do. If it works you’ll be praised, if it doesn’t, you’ll be criticized, and sometimes even if it works, you’ll still be criticized.”
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jan 10, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions
The turning point of the game. The weirdest line up I have ever seen or at least most surprising and surprisingly effective, but then when nothing else works.
Kenny Thomas
Jon Brockman
Ime Udoka
Beno Udrich
Sergio Rodriguez
Since when did K9 turn into a player who comes in banks shots off the glass and passes to cutter in a split second. The use of this lineup wasn’t long with Omri and Evans coming in, but seemed to change the dynamic of the game on the floor.
It was so different that the players that came in seemed to get a reset and were able to take on a new start. Evans took over at that point and won this game with our guys, but the reset and fresh start was striking to me and kind of noteworthy, in a strange way…
PW seems to be a guy who can take leftovers and make good stir fry.
If you were confused – what do you think George Karl thought?
Btw, one of the funnier moments was when PW got called for a T and complained by sitting on the scorer’s table and saying: “hey, I am acting like George, why don’t you treat me like George?”
by betweentheeyes on Jan 10, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
I had the opportunity
to sit at halfcourt last night, 4 rows up, and I heard the exchange between Westphal and the young referee. It was classic. I get the feeling that if Westphal posted at StR, he’d be a really snarky sh*t disturber.
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don't you know that both he and JR post here already?
agree, PW seems like one of those charming nice guys who unscrews salt shakers every once in a while. He has upped his snide factor since the start of the season.
by betweentheeyes on Jan 10, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
He doesn't suffer fools
Which probably means he wouldn’t stick around here long.
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During the Laker game he was overheard asking the ref after Kobe knocked a Kings player down:
“Hey, are you sure Kobe’s all right?”
Westphal would be hilarious in here.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
Actually
If it is who I think then I thought PW’s posts on here were thoughtful and fair. I have not figured out who JR is yet…
I love PW’s sarcasm! I heard the George comment and couldn’t make it all out. Nice! I think cause he is so mild that it is more noticeable when he speaks out and get ticked which means he gets noticed more, but they probably also listen a bit more and don’t just dismiss him.
I think PW would fit right in and enjoy the banter.
So what name does PW post under? Let me know
I promise, I won’t tell anybody
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It confused me
I think I literally said “Huh?”
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
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by lietothegirls on Jan 10, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
What the???
You put something in arrows and it deletes that… repost with =
My first thought: "Oh, damn. WTF" = as in bad
My second thought: "Oh DAMN WTF IS GOING ON!" = as in good
The difference -
Turnovers.
11 in the 1st half, down 11 points at the half.
1 turnover in the 3rd quarter, outscored the Nuggets by 8.
Opened the 4th quarter with 4 turnovers in the 1st 5 minutes and fell further behind.
Played the last 7 minutes without a turnover and came back to win.
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As far as turnovers go...
I prefer this kind.
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by LeaguePassAddict on Jan 10, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
those are the best kind of turnovers. Actually, I prefer cherry tunovers but apple are a close second.
mmmmmm……………..turnovers. Those kind of turnovers make any game better.
"I make love to pressure" - Stephen Jackson
much different from the previous night
Starting to develop some poise hopefully.
It was so nice to see them pull one of these out finally. They should just take the final moments from the last two games and make and instructional video. This is how we win, this is how we lose.
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'Reke?
That nickname stinks.
Nice win guys! Evans is a stud…
Patty Mills - PG of the future. Book it.
Thanks,
and hats off to you on the Lakers victory.
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by nothingbutnet on Jan 10, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
stinks, funny
Short for – ’Reke Havoc
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jan 10, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions
Question for TZ or any other Stats guru
TZ stated that Hawes rebounding was down. We’ve always know that due to fact that he spends alot of time in offensive sets setting screens out high and distributiing the ball from the high post, that he hasn’t been a good offensive rebounder. This year his defensive rebounds are down, but aren’t the Kings a better rebounding team defensively?
So, is there a stat that shows what percentage of rebound a team gets vs. opportunities? And, where do the Kings stand, in relation to the other teams in the league. Doesn’t the fact that Tyreke is averaging 4.2 drbs and Omir 3.8 drbs mean that there are fewer rebounds for Hawes to get.
I’d be interested to know what percentage of the remaining defensive rebounds available the Kings need to get to be in the top 5 rebounding teams.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
NBA.com has the Kings 10th in rebounding
at 42.5 per game, and 2.15 rebounds behind Chicago who is in 1st place with 45.05 rpg. Unfortunately, they don’t break it down into offensive & defensive rebounds. So, I don’t know where the Kings stand in relations to other teams in defensive rebounds.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
Are you asking...
what is the teams defensive rebounding rate, i.e. what % of rebounds do the Kings get on D end? The get 71.6% of opponent missed shots which is 26th in the league (5th worst). To be Top 5, they would have to secure 75.3% or better. Conclusion: Even though Tyreke and Omri are getting their fair share, there are plenty leftovers for Spence.
Here is the link:
Thanks bench, exactly what I wanted to know.
Now, is there a way to convert % into actual rebounds per game?
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
Never mind, I figured it out.
Here’s what I came up with.
The KIngs aver. 71.6% of the possible defensive rebounds or 1089
The NBA aver. is 73.4% so the Kings needed to pull down 26 more to be average. or about 0.7 rebounds per game.
The top 5 Defensive rebounding teams in the league Mil, Cle, Orl, Sas, & Cha average between 76.7% & 75.3%.
So, for the Kings to be among the top 5 defensive rebounding teams they would have needed to get 56 more rebounds or 1.5 more defensive rebounds per game.
If Spencer had gotten 1.3 more defensive rebounds, or what he averaged last year, the Kings would be the 6th best defensive rebounding team and the 3rd best offensive rebounding team. Dam you Spencer even if you are playing fewer minutes.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
who is this Omir fellow of who you speak?
"I make love to pressure" - Stephen Jackson
That was supposed to be Amir, that Persian guy we just picked up. ;)
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
From now on
whenever someone wishes to say “oh my goodness!” or “amazing!” the person can replace that phrase with the words “Tyreke Evans!” also, Wizards, Bucks, and Nuggets fans are permitted to use this in a negative way in place of a phrase such as “What the @#$%?!!”
I'm pretty sure it was my
“Just win one, knuckleheads” comment that got them over the hump.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
Actually ed called another comeback.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement and Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order.
ed rules
Even if he is from Davis.
:D
From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.
by My Losing Season on Jan 10, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
Haha
I may actually move soon. Trying to get closer to Arco ;)
And thanks for remembering Aykis. Don’t wanna get too full of myself but I did call that thing…. again. Thank you, I’ll be here all week
Godfather of the "nice ass" movement.... the future begins now...
I uncovered our true strategy
here: ;)
This 1st quarter looks a lot like last nights 4th quarter
hope we are getting it out of our system early tonight
Ball movement … is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. – Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jan 10, 2010 12:33 PM KST reply actions 0 recs
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jan 10, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions
might we have a Top 10 Evans Game Winners when the season is over?
and of course, have to pare it down to only 10? : )
put me in, Coach
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