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Kings Offense Runs Out of Steam: Orlando 109, Sacramento 88

If you need a handy argument as to why the Kings desperately need Kevin Martin back, stick Tuesday's fourth quarter against Orlando in your back pocket. Sacramento scored 10 points over the period, shooting 4-22 from the floor. A two-point lead heading into the quarter turned into an eight-point deficit within three minutes. After a Jason Thompson mid-range make with 11 minutes left in the game, the team scored only a pair of Tyreke Evans over the next six minutes. Orlando scored 13 points over that six-minute span. Thirteen points in six minutes ... that's about right. Two? No.

The Kings shot less than 35 percent from the floor all night, with Evans struggling at the rim and the entire team failing from the perimeter (excepting Andres Nocioni's 2-4 performance). Both teams shot 8-27 from beyond the arc, and that kept Sacramento in the game through three quarters. But the ability of Orlando -- specifically Dwight Howard -- to score easily on twos (31-50, 62 percent) while the Kings struggled mightily (22-59, 37 percent) decided the game. Rebounding wasn't much of an issue for the Kings, despite Dwight's mammoth presence. The rebound margin heavily favors Orlando (50-41), but all those missed Sacramento shots skews that. The Kings rebounded 77 percent of defensive opportunities, and the Magic grabbed 78 percent. The problem is that the Kings had more trouble scoring than the Magic did.

Star-divide

Martin will help, as everyone and their goldfish knows. All the nonsense about Martin needing to "check his ego" and "understand his role" upon returning is laughable not only because it shows such a sincere misunderstanding of Martin as a player and teammate, but because it misunderstands the team and what it needs. It needs efficient scoring. So much of the overachievement the Kings offense has experienced since Martin's injury is tied to, yes, Evans, but also undependable production from surprising players. Expecting 20 points every night from Omri Casspi is overshooting all fair targets. Ditto Donte Greene, and even Beno Udrih, Jason Thompson, Spencer Hawes and Andres Nocioni. Think about it: the team's offense has had one guy averaging 20 points a game, and a rotating cast of heroes. As we've learned over the past week or so, it's simply unsustainable. The viral frigidity racing through the roster was perhaps overstated by Tuesday's final numbers, but this has been brewing.

We didn't get a chance to see if Hilton Armstrong has worth as an interior defender just yet. Depending on how you look at it, the Kings defense did well enough that only a disastrous cold streak knocked them out in the fourth quarter. But a better job would have left Sacramento with a better cushion, and it's hard to ignore that Howard has shot something like 75 percent over his last five games against Royal Purple.

Thompson continues his winter of discontent. Eight points and six rebounds. Greene shot awfully in his return from injury, but defending decently -- I was surprised he didn't get more than one possession (a successful switch) on Howard. Greene was also able to remind me that if the NBA was 30 teams populated by 12 Donte Greenes, I would still have League Pass and I would still watch every game I could.

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Only 10 points in the fourth quarter!?!

by SantaCruzKing on Jan 12, 2010 10:14 PM PST reply actions  

kings shot 2 free throws in the last

There’s nothing like getting to the line to stem the flow of the game and get some points on the board.Another slashing, penetrating guard would definitely help out dramatically, but so would a big that can get the ball in the post and go to work.

One of those will be supplied immediately, another will hopefully develop or be deliverd at some point in the near future.

by thisismellow on Jan 12, 2010 10:15 PM PST reply actions  

I've said it before...

and I’ll say it again. If your shot ain’t falling, go to the hole, draw the foul and get your points at the line. The only Kings that played worth a damn were the rookies and Beno. We were doing fine until the 4th when Orlando stepped it up and we pee’d in our collective boot. And while I’m not a Hawes fan, I kind of felt sorry for the shellacking he took from Dwight Howard. It was like a boy playing against a man. A very big man with post moves.

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by SayWhat? on Jan 12, 2010 11:08 PM PST up reply actions  

The Kings tried going to the hole

but they didn’t get fouled. What they got was stripped and stuffed (TWSS).

by hozr on Jan 13, 2010 5:44 PM PST up reply actions  

The Martin stuff is right on target

Not getting it done in the paint demands great outside shooting and Kevin is the only one
on this team that can bring that

by getPGwithbounce on Jan 12, 2010 10:19 PM PST reply actions  

Crap

To make matters worse I had a rotund Magic fan that cheered loudly for everything the Magic did , baskets, farts, whatever he cheered like game 7. An attention whore who went ignored and I think that pisses him off.
I was go to tell him my NYs resolution was to get in shape and was going to ask if I could take a few laps around him, but I thought better of it. i’m almost 60 I have a 1 lap max.
The game sucked.

by ElRonToro on Jan 12, 2010 10:27 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

sadly

This reminded my of that Kings vs Jazz fourth quarter collapse a few seasons ago.

So last night I told Ryan Anderson that Jon Brockman was going to give him a bloody nose when i got to see him when he came home to El Dorado Hills. He did tell me that Brockman was quite the player and he didnt want to have to guard him. So after this game, my aunt [who went out with him at Oak Ridge] sent him a text thanking him for the free tickets, and now im awaiting for him to send her a text back bragging.

by bryancox11 on Jan 12, 2010 10:37 PM PST reply actions  

On a side note.

If Hilton was playing he would have won. End of story. hah.

no, we REALLY need K-Mart back.

by bryancox11 on Jan 12, 2010 10:38 PM PST reply actions  

Bingo

I think you hit the nail on the head. We would have won if one of our “rotating cast of heroes” had lit it up. We have needed one guy to step up and fill the void of KMart and that has happened almost every game… but not this time. Excellent point. We need the sure thing and that is KMart.

by MustangMBS on Jan 12, 2010 10:48 PM PST reply actions  

Have you been paying attention?

You’ve got it all wrong. We would of won if we put Hilton Armstrong in to keep Howard in his place.

by russak on Jan 12, 2010 11:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Is this sarcasm?

If so then sarcasm fail.

We lost cause our offense tanked in the fourth quarter. Period. We held our own the whole game and then put up brick after brick in the fourth.

by MustangMBS on Jan 12, 2010 11:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow really

This one guy would have scored 20 points in the 4th quarter… Really. Dude lose the bong.

by MustangMBS on Jan 12, 2010 11:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

He’s putting you on Mustang.

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by Aykis16 on Jan 12, 2010 11:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Sorry,

I am just a little too pissed right to have my sarcasm detector in working order. I am lucky my wife wasn’t asking me if I was on my period.

by MustangMBS on Jan 12, 2010 11:27 PM PST up reply actions  

That sort of anger is only reserved

for losing to the refs + Lakers in a game we should have won.

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by Aykis16 on Jan 12, 2010 11:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah that sucked worse

I was definitely not fit company that night. Way worse… It was just that they were doing a good job competing even with Tyreke not hitting and then to just collapse like that… Frustrating as hell…

by MustangMBS on Jan 12, 2010 11:34 PM PST up reply actions  

JT

just needs to cut out the goddamn eeyore routine. who told him he could go at dwight howard one on one with his nonexistent left hand? its getting to the point where they’re gonna start playing the sad trombone as his theme music.

he and spence need to grow a set. take a look at brockman – if you’re gonna go down, be a man about it. put someone on his ass and raise your hand. who the hell is spence whining and flailing his arms to after he commits every obvious foul?

the magic were nothing special even in the 4th. until 4 minutes left we were in the game even with the jr high offense. we couldn’t throw it in the ocean, and not for lack of trying (looking at you donte, that was shit)

howard is a beast. until this year he DID have no post game (hahaha grant making fun of your callers — you twat — NBA experts have been saying it for years — have a good laugh you dick) – if he’s making left handed 10 foot hooks – forget it. without him that team is deep lottery.

nice to see jwill back playing well, though I must say I didn’t really enjoy the reception our “defensive bigs” allowed him – a layup drill

well, clank, fuck it, it happens, night, y’all

by lchristmas on Jan 12, 2010 11:06 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

The name...

is PEACHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by markdog333 on Jan 13, 2010 7:07 AM PST up reply actions  

couple of thoughts:

-Didn’t like the defensive game plan, especially in the 3rd. Way too much doubling on Howard. I know you have to send guys at him, but all those threes got the Magic back in the game quickly and i’d much rather make Howard make shots with a lead than give the Magic open threes.

-Hope the Kings don’t face a Howard led team in the finals if they ever get there. That freakish athelticism would give Tyreke trouble around the rim.

- Jason just needs to keep things simple and go from there. Just do a Brockman and go after every offensive rebound and take the open jumper when it comes. Going wildly at Howard was a trainwreck.

smell the ashes

by iamstern'skippah! on Jan 12, 2010 11:09 PM PST reply actions  

Tyreke is still learning

and by the time he plays his first playoff game, he’ll be smarter about how to come at Howard in the paint.

by Zahid on Jan 13, 2010 1:06 AM PST up reply actions  

2nd game in a row...

he puts up air-ball 3’s. Uh, Reke buddy, if you can’t shoot better than 33% from 3, maybe you should just work on it in practice. Your forte is taking it to the hole. Play to your strength young man!

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by SayWhat? on Jan 13, 2010 8:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Hmm...

Evan shot 33% from the 3 point line last night… Not saying he shouldn’t go to the hole, but wide open 3s for 33% isn’t exactly awful either… Not great, but it isn’t like he doesn’t hit those. Noc definitely led there for 50%.

How about that Brockman. Shooting 100%, well that is only 2 shots, and 5 of 6 from the line. Led in rebounding as well. Only one possession that I saw on Howard where he fouled him. I would have like to see more burn there.

by MustangMBS on Jan 13, 2010 8:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Mmm...yeah

Basic math skills would indicate that a 33% 3 point field goal percentage is the equivalent to a 50% two point field goal percentage. And taking three shots from outside the arc in a game really doesn’t concern me much.

However, the fact is he is shooting 25.7% from three on the season, and 48.6% on two point shots. So your argument is still valid from that perspective.

"When you look at him, you say: 'Holy God.'" - Pete Carril on Tyreke Evans

by otis29 on Jan 13, 2010 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I think our blog needs a new name

“Fourth Quarter Collapse”

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by Aykis16 on Jan 12, 2010 11:14 PM PST reply actions  

I think I saw dust bunnies around the Kings net in the 4th Q

I went to this game ARCO Arena tonight and in place of the Warriors, the Magic watched the Kings offense burn down – all candle and no wick.

The first half was a nicely paced game – JWill looked to be in fine form and the rest of the Magic just didn’t look all that impressive – oh except for #12. I was upset at the non call goal tends (2) and the ridiciulous Joey Crawford ignoring the rules about 0.3 on the clock. Interestingly, Everyone – players, coaches avoided confronting him. I sat close to the Orlando TV guys and one of them stood up and said: “Wow, Joey Crawford doesn’t know the rules”. If this was a two point game, it would have made a difference – unfortunately, it was not.

Jason Thompsom was absent. His head is not there.Never thought I would say it. He seems to have lost his confidence. Sad.
This left Hawes v. Howard.,,,. Spencer tried, and the first half, his offense was there. Then he too lost confidence and reverted to the Spencer of 10 games back.

I give credit to the intimidation of Howard and the overall defense of the Magic but I felt like standing up and demanding they remeasure the rim height. And diameter.And polarity.Nothing would go in.
Tyreke recovered from his 1-10 first half, but no one else could score.As the game began to slide these young and scrappy Kings seem to listlessly watch the air go out of the ball. Game over.

Time to put this one behind them.

by betweentheeyes on Jan 12, 2010 11:15 PM PST reply actions  

Agreed

I didn’t have high hopes for this game being a win in the first place, but when you’re up by 2 at the end of the 3rd there is absolutely no reason you should lose by 21. Its frustrating watching how badly this team has executed during 4th quarters this year.

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by Aykis16 on Jan 12, 2010 11:18 PM PST up reply actions  

It was a maddening sight

terrible shooting – but only when it really mattered, the 4th quarter.

Terrible offensive sets, off balance hasty shots for no reason caused by the defense I could see, a real lack (I’ll have to watch the tape) of positive substitutions by PW to try to stop the bleeding until it was too late.

JT is in a major funk and looked like early last season, Omri still looks exhausted, Donte’ was wild on offense . . . . we’re just not going to win many games if all those guys stink it up.

Absolutely no excuse for scoring ten freakin’ points on those guys in the 4th.

I haven’t said it much this season but -

Wretched.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Jan 12, 2010 11:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Omri, tired and struggling with his offense

at least found a way to be useful and easily – easily! Led the team in rebounding.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Jan 12, 2010 11:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Maddening, good word

Just fucking maddening. I am mean to just collapse and watch a game that could have been won go to shit like that. WTF…

by MustangMBS on Jan 12, 2010 11:37 PM PST up reply actions  

No shit, if the jumpers aren't falling

at least try to go o the hole and draw some fouls. This was also a game where an otherwise ‘limited’ offensive player who plays right at the rim probably would have helped grind out a few minutes – kept us in it.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Jan 12, 2010 11:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Something... Anything...

It is kind of hard with Dwight in the paint, but hell yeah try and draw the fouls…

by MustangMBS on Jan 12, 2010 11:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I just wish

That he was as consistent in his game as you are in your support

by MustangMBS on Jan 13, 2010 7:41 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Your right on about Martin's "ego"

Even if he had one, a 17 win season will humble you pretty quick

Phil Jackson, after treatment for a kidney stone "When the anesthesiologist leaned over me, he said "We named your kidney stone Kobe because it's not passing."

by Ellimist on Jan 13, 2010 7:06 AM PST reply actions  

Game note:

I just want to say that JT is way more accepting of calls against him than he has been. I say this because there are those who still go off about this quite a bit.

Is he always accepting? No, but he is getting closer to 50/50. I have seen him not say a word and walk away. Or just take it, smack his hands and shake his head.

I say this to provide some balance. He is getting better.

by MustangMBS on Jan 13, 2010 7:46 AM PST reply actions  

Yeah, he may not be saying much

But his attitude after a call goes against him is really bad.

JT plays well when he’s having fun, and I think right now he’s had a stretch of bad games and has forgotten that basketball is a game. One that he’s pretty good at.

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by LeaguePassAddict on Jan 13, 2010 7:53 AM PST up reply actions  

It does

Definitely get worse the more frustrated he is, but that is an overall thing. I agree with you. He needs to be having fun.

by MustangMBS on Jan 13, 2010 8:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Its part of the growing up process

hey, at least while we’re losing it bothers him. Way too many NBA players obviously don’t care that much; we’re lucky that we really seem to have a team that cares about the outcome and is interested in being a team.

Its very likely he’ll keep growing up. I agree with MustangMBS, both JT and Spencer have made progress on the whining. Its not perfect yet, it probably never will be, but the effort and improvement is readily apparent.

Free Omri...trade.Noc.

by ForThree on Jan 13, 2010 8:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Look at the different player

I want to know one really good player, just name one, who doesn’t really care about the game and take how well they play very personal (rhetorical question). I think it is safe to say that there isn’t one.

This was the chief complaint about Donte’. He didn’t seem to care enough and take it serious enough. JT cares A LOT and that will drive him to get better once he gets past caring so much that he pushes too hard.

He definitely needs to learn to balance caring and not let hit make the game no fun anymore.

by MustangMBS on Jan 13, 2010 9:44 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Not care is poorly stated by me

but say…care about their image and getting their numbers more than winning or being a good teammate.

Examples:

Antione Walker, Stephon Marbury, Corey Magette, Agent 0 (to a certain extent I think)

Those guys complain about calls or get upset because it hurts the brand, not because they want their teams to do well.

Free Omri...trade.Noc.

by ForThree on Jan 13, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

The influence of B-Rad?

I believe that Brad Miller is at least partially responsible for JT and Spence’s lousy attitudes with respect to calls. We all know what a whiner Brad was, and he was probably the one veteran role model that young Hawes and JT looked up to when then came into the league.

I’m glad Brockman isn’t being directly exposed to that kind of negativity.

by corbin on Jan 13, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

IDK, I'm yelling and screaming at the refs after some of their god awful calls,

why shouldn’t the guys actually playing and getting burnt by the refs, be able to express themselfs. I don’t like the bad beer face, but certainly they have the right to ask the ref why and tell them how they feel. As long as their not trying to embarrass the ref, let them express something.

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by HighTops on Jan 13, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Great point!

After some of those calls I am all for embarrassing those dumbasses. We are often getting screwed and there is an appropriate time to get in the ref’s grill.

by MustangMBS on Jan 13, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

when will the twins play good together?

       One night Spence brings it, the other night JT brings it. In the beginning of the season it was JT bringing it. Now his head is up his anus. In the beginning, Spence’s head was up his anus, now he can see the light and must have heard the pop noise too. As has been noted before on this site, the two very rarely bring it on the same night.
        This is why I hate the southern jackoffs. They have Bynum, Gasol, and Odom. 2 of the 3 will bring it every night and when all 3 do, you are screwed. Even when 2 of them bring it, you are screwed. The Kings have 2 interior pieces (I love Brockman for his rebounding, but his offense needs work), and on most nights one shows up.
        Armstrong will not help this cause.
        “I’ll send a SOS, I’ll send a SOS, I hope that someone gets my message in a bottle.” I believe Petrie has the message, and is looking for some other team to help take the cork out.

by noreboundsnorings on Jan 13, 2010 8:01 AM PST reply actions  

the real reason the Kings lost...

They felt inadequate when they saw Ron Jeremy on the Orlando Bench.

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by Ice_9ine on Jan 13, 2010 8:13 AM PST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Brockman

Scored 9 points and grabbed 6 boards in 13 minutes. He didn’t play one minute in the fourth quarter.

End of game.

Kings rule! (They are royalty - right?)

by dalt99 on Jan 13, 2010 8:26 AM PST reply actions  

I think Bockman's minutes go up

when K-Mart comes back. Having more scorers on the floor allows us to keep the monster out there longer.

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by SavageBeast on Jan 13, 2010 9:02 AM PST up reply actions  

What? The 4th quarter offense coud have been worse?

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Jan 13, 2010 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

The weird thing is...for him being a defensive guy.

The team seems to do better offensively as well as defensively when he is on the floor.

by MustangMBS on Jan 13, 2010 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Or I guess you could say

He isn’t the blackhole or a lead weight on Offense that he might have been and that I kind of thought he would end up being. He does so many of the small things..

by MustangMBS on Jan 13, 2010 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

More offense available from Brockman

Yeah, he’s thrown up a few bricks over the season, but that tends to happen when you’re often looking to NOT shoot and then decide to throw it up. I saw something he did against the Magic that really got my attention. Wondering if you or anyone else saw it. Just one play, but I was impressed. Brockman took it toward the rim from the right baseline, got it inside of ten feet on the dribble against Howard (if memory serves me) and pulled off a sweet, VERY QUICK spin move that, if he would have continued would have, I believe, resulted in a very good shot close in. He had Howard beat quickness wise. Problem was he pulled up short due to mindset, not circumstance. He could have taken it to the hole. I’d like to see Westphal instruct him to be a little looser with his offensive attempts. There’s more there than meets the eye. Wondering if you, or anybody else, saw what I saw or agree with my assessment. Let me know.

by rstewartwest on Jan 13, 2010 11:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Pretty sure I saw it

He is pretty quick and strong. I like it when he gets the ball off of Evans penetration or miss and takes it up. I also think he could be more offensively minded around the rim. And I want to know if he can hit the 10 footer. I think our man Brockman may be more than just a defensive guy. We will see…

by MustangMBS on Jan 13, 2010 11:47 PM PST up reply actions  

10 to 15 footer

I think if Westphal gives him the greenlight to shoot the 10-15 footer and he can knock it down we have a totally new team dynamic with Brockman on the floor with serious value added. I really like this kid and think he has more to offer than we’ve seen thus far, and that’s saying something given his ridiculous nose for the rebound and ability give the Kings energy and opportunity.

by rstewartwest on Jan 14, 2010 12:01 AM PST up reply actions  

One thing he does on offense...

That doesn’t make the stat sheet is that he sets really, really solid screens. Beno, in particular, seems to benefit.

There was even a three-point play last night that Brockman earned as he tangled with the screened man, just as Beno dropped an open jumper.

by unfair weather on Jan 13, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Seems to happen fairly frequently

There’s something about fourth quarter matchups that Westphal doesn’t like for Brockman. Or it’s the perception that he’s an offensive liability, and the team is having trouble putting the ball in the hole in the fourth.

As SB notes above, this may (hopefully) change with the return of Speed.

"When you look at him, you say: 'Holy God.'" - Pete Carril on Tyreke Evans

by otis29 on Jan 13, 2010 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Right on point...
All the nonsense about Martin needing to “check his ego” and “understand his role” upon returning is laughable not only because it shows such a sincere misunderstanding of Martin as a player and teammate, but because it misunderstands the team and what it needs. It needs efficient scoring.

Amen…

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by Mcamp49 on Jan 13, 2010 10:08 AM PST reply actions  

Yes.

And he joined StR months ago. Curious.

"El once, chico. Eleven."

by Juan Primo on Jan 13, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Years ago

Maybe it’s Paris – she’d be more fun at StR night

by batso on Jan 13, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Which is why they never touch on that topic

They all ask, “would Kevin Martin adapt to this being Tyreke’s team?”, but they never discuss how effective Speed still was with Artest and Bibby around, or how he has shown to have ZERO ego throughout his career.

You broke it down perfectly Otis

The future begins now...

by edm7 on Jan 13, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

rec'd

for greatness

Free Omri...trade.Noc.

by ForThree on Jan 13, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Great post. Rec'd.

Those two will form one of the best backcourts in the league from an X’s and O’s standpoint, and their unwillingness to create drama and their ability to take instruction make them extra special.

"El once, chico. Eleven."

by Juan Primo on Jan 13, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Completely Agree,

however, I would be completely on board with a Kevin Martin for Al Jefferson deal as Kahn is looking to dump Jefferson, you just don’t turn down young big men with post moves. Obviously he has had a knee injury, but reliable scoring from down low would help open up the rest of the court.

Either way, the time leading up to the trade deadline is going to be fascinating and if Speed stays with the team there isn’t a classier player in the league worth cheering for.

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by moproblemz on Jan 13, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Al Jefferson is a terrible answer for this team

I live in MN and watch way too much Timberpuppy basketball. If you commit to Big Al here in Sacramento, you’ve ensured we will be a terrible defensive frontline for the foreseeable future.

Big Al is the best post technician in the NBA right now, video of him should be given to every young aspiring big guy, but we really don’t want to add him to the Hawes/JT mix. Give our young guys another year or two; if Tyreke and our wings keep developing, competant post play, defense, rebounding and ball movement are what we need from bigs. We don’t need the post player that gets tons of touches but plays poor defense of Mr. Jefferson.

Free Omri...trade.Noc.

by ForThree on Jan 13, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Certainly

In no way am I saying that it’s a bad idea to trade Kevin, as long as you get a fair return for him. I just wish Kevin’s alleged egotism was left out of the argument.

"When you look at him, you say: 'Holy God.'" - Pete Carril on Tyreke Evans

by otis29 on Jan 13, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Rec'd

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by section214 on Jan 13, 2010 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Thompson

The guy plays so emotionally, and that can be a good and bad thing. He’s still young to the NBA, and certainly has not exhibited any maturity issues off the court. But on the court, he still needs to learn to channel and focus that emotion if he hopes to become a more consistent player. Because when his head is right, he’s pretty good.

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by section214 on Jan 13, 2010 12:11 PM PST reply actions  

Emotion is good

JTs emotion is GOOD! Thing is, he needs to channel it differently. I think most good players are fairly emotional. That emotion is part of what makes them what to win. Don’t want to squash this! The emotion that creates good things and then makes more good things happen is great. The head hanging and shaking when things go bad is a problem. As JT develops he will, hopefully, learn to turn the negative emotion around. Instead of the letting the emotion turn negative when things aren’t going well flip flop that to an emotion that pushes him to do better. That is…“bullshit on this, time to throw away all negative thoughts and kick some butt.” Take the intensity of the negative and turn it into a positive emotion. The greats do this all the time. JT is extremely hard working and a good player. If he can achieve this emotional shift, we’ll all be very, very happy.

by rstewartwest on Jan 14, 2010 12:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow, I thought we were ranked pretty high in offense

thought what we needed was defense, less turnovers, and some steady inside presence.

But here’s hoping that when K Mart returns things go well and he lights it up from outside, jumping into opposing players at will, leading us on scoring furies. ‘Cause if we start to lose a bunch (by larger margins) or can’t play as well cohesively, or Reke’s numbers plummet …. its going to get really ugly and boring real quick.

I wouldnt be surprised if the big trade Amick mentioned involves K-Mart.
And not because he’s not a FANTASTIC guy, and a real sweetheart and all, and he can score with the best, and you own his jersey.
No its because he cant play D or pass well, and Kings brass know that at his size and fragile frame, and with his limited game of speed, shooting well and runners—he will continue to be hurt with nagging injuries or he will soon lose a step—so why not improve inside where its really needed and go with the youth/power movement-

Or I could be wrong, and Martin could suddenly become the player I’ve been waiting for since they handed him the keys. Im holding my breath.

by VirginiaBlue on Jan 13, 2010 12:19 PM PST reply actions  

We let Orlando take us out of our game.

We’re one of the top teams in points in the paint, and we got out scored 52 to 26 in the paint, We were 0-7 from 3’s and 4-22 from the field in the 4th quarter. But, that happens sometimes when you become a jumpshooting team, and your shooters go cold.

The Magic have one guy, who guards the paint, and he does it better than anyone else. The problem with our offense last night, was that it’s the same offense we’ve used all year. Our guy with the ball attacks and trys to get an open shot. Well, surprise that doesn’t work well against a great post defender. Which is why most people on this site have been begging for a post defender for years, or at least in the last draft.

Teams usually work to get mismatches, and attack the other teams weaknesses. But, sometime you need to attack the other teams strengths. Orlando has one strength, Howard, and the Kings needed to attack him. No, I’m not suggesting that JT or Spencer go one on one. I’m saying that the way to take a great weakside defender out of his game is either take him away from the basket, or backpick him.

Pete Carril came up with a offense that works when your out manned in the post. But, the Kings aren’t running an offense with movement off the ball. They don’t run off screens or set picks off the ball to get someone open going to the basket. We run screens for the guy with the ball allowing him to go to the basket, but with a great low post defender waiting for him why?

What I wanted to see was Hawes being defended by Howard, and Tyreke setting a back screen on Howard and someone cutting to the rim. Hawes passes or if Tyreke’s man switches onto Hawes, Spencer take a short to mid range jumper. Either way Howard can’t defend the rim, and isn’t in position to rebound. There are plenty of ways to take a weakside defender out of the game, but we don’t employ any of them.

The Kings have some talented offensive players who can beat their man and get an open shot. That doesn’t mean they’re going to hit them at a high rate. At some point, the KIngs need to learn to implement a team offensive strategy that gets high percentage shots. Until they do, in the 4th quarter when teams turn up the defense and the pressure to score is high, the Kings are going to live or die on their outside game.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy

by HighTops on Jan 13, 2010 1:12 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

Amen

I See it, but can only rarely describe it half as well as that.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Jan 13, 2010 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Olden Polynice

I’m sure there’s a way to do this but i don’t know how. (i.e. fanpost/shot)I saw ex-king OP on sportscenter this morning talking about the family he has in Haiti that are unaccounted for.I know he would appreciate it if all sacfans could keep him and those poor people in our prayers. I’m sure that you guys that have this whole computer thing figure out could probablt find the interview. I just thought it was worth noting since we king fans are truly the greatest.
thanks

by srill waiting on Jan 13, 2010 5:50 PM PST reply actions  

KIns lose steam

typical game kings are amazing kings are winning then they just give up.
Happens in every freaking game.

BK

by Brockalicious on Jan 13, 2010 6:23 PM PST reply actions  

We beat Denver twice, Orlando beats us by 21, and Denver beats the Magic by 18

Go figure.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy

by HighTops on Jan 13, 2010 8:59 PM PST reply actions  

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