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Upon Kevin Martin's Return

With the news Kevin Martin will likely return Friday against Philadelphia, it's worth looking back to see how quickly Martin got back into the flow after previous long lay-offs.

In 2007-08, Martin missed five weeks of action with a severe groin strain. In his first game back, he played 28 minutes off the bench. He scored 25 points on 93 percent True Shooting (7/9 floor, 1/1 three, 10/10 line). In the next game, against the Mavericks, Martin scored 39 points on 94 percent True Shooting (14/16 floor, 2/2 three, 9/11 line) in 27 minutes. In first five games back from injury, he averaged 26 points in 31 minutes on 75 percent True Shooting. (League average True Shooting, by the way, is about 54 percent.)

Last season, Martin missed three weeks due to bone chips in his ankle. In his first five games back, he averaged 30 points in 36 minutes on 66 percent True Shooting. In the third game back, he scored 45 points on 77 percent True Shooting (13/24 floor, 7/12 three, 12/12 line) and added six assists.

Martin is always really good. Coming off an injury, he's been even better.

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He's good?

Trade him.

For expirings.

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Jan 14, 2010 6:15 AM PST reply actions  

agreed

this is more evidence that Tyreke is NaPG

by sactoreg on Jan 14, 2010 7:48 AM PST up reply actions  

They're both soft...

Trade them so we have room for LeBron and D-Wade in the summer.

by Rickyflip on Jan 14, 2010 11:42 AM PST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd for wild optimism.

I like your style, I think the only thing left to do is to hit Thunder Valley Casino.

Scot Pollard for President

by ThePrince on Jan 14, 2010 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

after he gets back for a few games can the Kings arrange to injure him again?

I think this bespeaks more to how Kevin Martin plays healthy than anything else. I am anxious to see a long term healthy KMart, then – watch out League.

by betweentheeyes on Jan 14, 2010 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Kevin Martin is a poor man's Chapu

"Oh, y ahora ¿quién podrá defenderme?" "¡Yo!"

by chapuforyou on Jan 14, 2010 6:37 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Damn right. :-)

There can only be one Noce!

by NoceOne on Jan 14, 2010 6:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah....

..US dollars go a lot further in Argentina.

by Smills91 on Jan 14, 2010 7:18 AM PST up reply actions  

That's good news for me,

because I’m broke.

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by section214 on Jan 14, 2010 8:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Hey section, I know the picture is Kleine

but every time I see it in a thread, I see Carter Burke.

Sound the trumpets, Raise the drawbridge, and drop the Oldsmobile

by Balky Needs on Jan 14, 2010 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah...

..US dollars go a lot further in Argentina.

Sorry. Just being obnoxious.

From the people who brought you Reggie Musselnatt.

by My Losing Season on Jan 14, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

?

Best starting backcourt in the league?

by henryclemente on Jan 14, 2010 6:39 AM PST reply actions  

You are right

I am new and messed up, it is kind of like Seinfeld where someone always comes into theconversation at the wrong time. I should have been the Chapuforu imposter.

I should wait a couple more months before posting so I have a better sense of it all, but my life has not been the same since joining StR as I have less time to surf other stuff like porn..err i meant world news.

by want2win on Jan 14, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Best looking (sexxxy)

That’s more important now, don’t you think?

Sound the trumpets, Raise the drawbridge, and drop the Oldsmobile

by Balky Needs on Jan 14, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Let's go KMart!

"Oden is a man among cub scouts."
by Tyrusmancrush on Nov 23, 2009 9:08 PM PST

by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 14, 2010 8:07 AM PST reply actions  

Let him play!!

Before we jump to conclusions…lets see how the kid does

saw this coming...

by anthonysam on Jan 14, 2010 8:16 AM PST reply actions  

I think he starts.

There is just no reason not to get this experiment under way because it’s not like Martin is stealing anyone spot and we all know he is in game shape. People are going to lose minutes but I think every single guy on this team is excited to see K-Mart get back to full strength and in the flow with Evans.

No law when it comes to me.
I let you type critics write and I just keep it hood.
That will never change.
I am not kissing no ones ass because I'm in LA. Suck a cock.

-Ron Artest (e-mail exchange with Kyle Slavin)

by jjham15 on Jan 14, 2010 8:35 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

this

I’ve been saying this for a week now

Section214 is my hero. Good shakes!

by debrixtha1 on Jan 14, 2010 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

= less PT for The Show?

He’s my bet for reduced minutes.

Sound the trumpets, Raise the drawbridge, and drop the Oldsmobile

by Balky Needs on Jan 14, 2010 9:09 AM PST reply actions  

Casspi will also see less minutes

mostly because he’s been tired lately and he could benefit from some extended rest

The future begins now...

by edm7 on Jan 14, 2010 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

He looks wiped out

but he probably still starts

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Jan 14, 2010 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Don't kid yourself. Omri is not actually wiped out.

He’s just playing possum with opposing defenses.

"If you pick me, I will fight for you. I will go to war for you." -Omri Casspi

by omriforme on Jan 14, 2010 9:46 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Please tell me

you’re not omri’s chapuforyou. I don’t know if I can take one per player

The future begins now...

by edm7 on Jan 14, 2010 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Don't worry.

I won’t be as prolific as chapuforyou. Also, chapuforyou will leave this board in two weeks when Nocioni gets traded.

"If you pick me, I will fight for you. I will go to war for you." -Omri Casspi

by omriforme on Jan 14, 2010 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Are you sure he will leave?

I’m thinking he will come back with stats & video of chapu highlights. And after every loss he will chime in with “you wouldn’t have lost if you still had chapu”

by allbenji's on Jan 14, 2010 12:45 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

ah, you know me too well

"Oh, y ahora ¿quién podrá defenderme?" "¡Yo!"

by chapuforyou on Jan 14, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

omri's chapu

ourjewforyou.

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by section214 on Jan 14, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Hey friend!

"Oh, y ahora ¿quién podrá defenderme?" "¡Yo!"

by chapuforyou on Jan 14, 2010 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Starts, yes

But plays less minutes (and still plays well)

The future begins now...

by edm7 on Jan 14, 2010 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes, I think thats how it goes

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Jan 14, 2010 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

start or no start

I want to see his minutes on the floor with Tyreke – to me that’s what’s important. With regard to your statement that “we all know he is in game shape,” well, I just have to disagree. There is no chance in hell that he’s in game shape. He’s a very hard worker, so he’ll be in as good as shape as one can expect. But there is no way to mimic game intensity in the practice room or in individual workout.

The recent string of close losses have really brought home to me the importance of having a K-Mart like player – especially if he and Tyreke develop trust and instincts for each other. When the game is on the line, Tyreke will be the person with the ball. But now he has one of the NBA’s great shooters and this should really help open the floor when the game and the defense gets tight towards the end of close games. In addition, with Tyreke turing into a better FT shooter than I anticipated and with KMart being one the game’s best, the two people most likely to have the ball are also money at the line.

KMart’s return is just what the doctor ordered for a team with a bit of mid-season cold.

by Kusian on Jan 14, 2010 9:14 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

He'll put up +/- 20 Friday

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Jan 14, 2010 9:30 AM PST reply actions  

True shooting sucks

You don’t count free throws because they are free

The future begins now...

by edm7 on Jan 14, 2010 9:57 AM PST reply actions  

Sorry Z

This is what some ‘not-very-smart’ fellows insist on. You fell for my ‘not-so-good’ sarcasm

The future begins now...

by edm7 on Jan 14, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

heh

I think I fell into the sarchasm as well. Nicely played edm7.

"When you look at him, you say: 'Holy God.'" - Pete Carril on Tyreke Evans

by otis29 on Jan 14, 2010 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Thank you all

I’m honored

(btw Otis, please call me just ed. You make me feel like just a screen name, Otis29 ;))

The future begins now...

by edm7 on Jan 14, 2010 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

You mean

he makes you feel like just Another Stupid SN?

Father of the "Natt this!" movement and Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order.

by Aykis16 on Jan 14, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

You got it!

The future begins now...

by edm7 on Jan 14, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

I guess you missed out on this joke TZ

Someone was having an argument with me about Kevin Martin saying that TS% is a wack stat since it takes into account free throws.

Father of the "Natt this!" movement and Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order.

by Aykis16 on Jan 14, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Where at?

I’d like to check this out

www.mancancook.net

by vfettke on Jan 14, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Here's the exchange:

You can find the exchange in this thread. I’m sorry if you’re IQ drops a few points after reading.

Father of the "Natt this!" movement and Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order.

by Aykis16 on Jan 14, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm definitely dumber right now than I was 5 minutes ago

before reading that thing again.

The future begins now...

by edm7 on Jan 14, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

I got part of the way through

then decided I’d rather go to the parking lot at work and lay behind someone’s back tires and wait for them to leave for the day.

www.mancancook.net

by vfettke on Jan 14, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

really?

i feel exactly the same. Of course i agreed with other guy.

Section214 is my hero. Good shakes!

by debrixtha1 on Jan 14, 2010 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Are you being serious here?

Father of the "Natt this!" movement and Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order.

by Aykis16 on Jan 14, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

sarcasm fail?

sorry i thought that one was obvious

Section214 is my hero. Good shakes!

by debrixtha1 on Jan 14, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

get it

i don’t feel stupider because I’m already this stupid…..oh, lord why am i cursed with this superior intellect?!?!? j/k

Section214 is my hero. Good shakes!

by debrixtha1 on Jan 14, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Ow

My brain

Never forget: I am a complete idiot

by Exhibit G on Jan 14, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

OMG - Some funny SHIT (disturbing yet like a train wreck...)

He invented the SHIT%. That should be one of the best lines ever!!!

by MustangMBS on Jan 14, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

It thought it too into account assists

Cause you know shooting can’t count if you don’t pass the ball to shooters who have a lower TS% than you have…

by MustangMBS on Jan 14, 2010 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

and in case you forget

(sarcasm)

"I make love to pressure" - Stephen Jackson

by Bluejohn on Jan 14, 2010 10:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I think this is the game I most waited for ever since KMart got injured

In the games Martin played, he was an offensive beast, and if I can recall, also got a handfull of assists. The backcourt of Tyreke-Martin really didn’t show in the games he played because Tyreke was struggling from the line getting into his rookie grove. Now that he has shown everyone that he can play like an All-Star, when put together with another All-Star, this will be an amazing duo. I wonder how much Westphal will use his bench now….

by MexicanSKFan2Death on Jan 14, 2010 3:20 PM PST reply actions  

Can't wait

Martin with Tyreke struggling in the first 5 games:
Average 30 pts, 5 rebounds, and about 3 assists per game

Martin with Tyreke the Beast having all defenders collapse on him:
Wow, could be even better? How many open shots will Martin get? Can’t wait!

by MustangMBS on Jan 14, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

And how many more easy buckets will Tyreke get

when defenses can’t collapse on him? His point total should stay around the same with his assists going up.

Father of the "Natt this!" movement and Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order.

by Aykis16 on Jan 14, 2010 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Excellent point

These two players will increase their overall game in tandem. They are the perfect inside and outside threat. Evans % goes up on his shots, assists go up, and he feeds KMart buckets for the perfect combo.

This is the anti-desmond mason that has been needed. The anti-dote to the Kings blues and streak of close losses.

by MustangMBS on Jan 14, 2010 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

wow props to ziller

i didnt know kevin wooped other teams that bad, 14 of 16 from the floor? epitome of a scorch. and now we have some solid defenders that mostly keep the other team’s stars from shooting that well.

by Harrisonyaka on Jan 14, 2010 4:28 PM PST reply actions  

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