Rebuilding

and I apologize for getting on you about the JT post. Just like it’s been frustrating for you to see the team loss and the young guys have bad games, it’s frustrating to me when we don’t understand where we are at and really how much better we are after a horrendous season last year. I think that by writing this post I also let a lot of that frustration go as well.

i think edm7 got the best post here at sactown. your right man, i think we should give the Kings franchise and the team itself do their thing and do the rebuilding plan that would land us a playoff spot in the next few years, hope this guys just remain healthy. Go kings

Hopefully we can get a solid starting center, and with are luck this draft is supposed to have a few!!

It’s when you start getting into “trade XYZ so we can be the 8th seed and lose 0-4 in Round 1” mode that the immaturity shows itself. It’s a loss, learn what you can from it, and shrug it off. Perspective, perspective, perspective…

But how are we going to know if we’re doing this correctly if we don;t give the project time. This is also an incomplete puzzle; we may be close, but definitely not done with adding pieces.

And you know criticism in here is not always logical and factual. We have people writing that the Kings actually have “guaranteed wins,” or “must-wins,” or "that we can still make a push for the playoffs.’ The reality of these type of comments is just way off. We have some great arguments around here, but that’s not always the case.

And you can go ahead and question my fanhood. Taking contenders to the wire makes me smile and dream about the future of this team. When Kobe made that 3 I actually had tears in my eyes, because of that being the most unfair game I’ve watched in a long time, but after 5 minutes I actually realized what the young Kings, without Tyreke and Kevin, did. That made me feel better

I hate losing, it sucks, I hate moral victories, I hate bad calls, I hate my alimony, dumb people, laker fans, losing, losing losing losing, but I absolutely LOVE the fact that I feel that the Kings have a chance to win any game they playe because of our young studs..and that makes being a Kings fan fun!!

Rec’d.

And also, this is the main reason I was against the Okafor trade…I believe he puts us in No Man’s Land.

Early season succes has a lot to do with early easy schedule.

JT_thekid is his twitter name. The most durable on the team, the one who is averaging a near double double and you are

ready to cut ties with JT

If he can’t put up double-doubles, learn to defend better and not making those bone headed turnovers by now, after 120 games – then to heck with him!

sigh. I hope you weren’t one of the ones who condemned GP for allowing Crash Wallace to be available during the expansion draft.

I will take the easy route: patience my fellow fan, patience.

and I did not mean to imply that every rebuilding process is succesful. I think this is why I added this line

Patience. You let the young guys grow together, learn the game together, get better every year, and hope that in the end they have something special

Emphasis mine on “hope”

We don’t even know what we have yet, that’s why you exercise patience, for at least one season after your big draft. That’s my point. I’m not going to us the “patience line” every year that we are bad. But I will use it, one year removed from being the worst team in the league.

if you looks for examples of teams that look like they are getting better, they spent more years stockpiling assets before they could get to where they are now than we have.

We need more assets, to give up on potential assets now just delays things. Sure, maybe JT isn’t a starting power forward; but even today he looks like he’ll be a hell of a 3rd big man. There’s no reason to give up on JT today, we have him essentially for free for several more years, so relax and see what happens with him.

Very few, if any, people are saying don’t do anything. My point is, we need patience and the addition of more assets + time; there’s no reason to take any other approach.

You say “all of the trade offers posted on this site are lame” and then you turn around and offer Hawes, Greene, and Sergio for Brook Lopez and say there’s a 50-50 chance they do it? Really? Am I missing something?

Thing I love is you say

I agree that Kings should stay with their a core of players with upside. That core should be Evans, Casspi, Thompson and possibly Hawes, Greene, Rodriguez, Udrih and Brockman

then you go and trade off 2 of the guys you just called core players. Martin is calling and he wants to bitch slap some sense into you!

And you say no big time free agents are coming here..Did you stop to think about Sign and trades..Kings are gonna be very exciting very soon with their “Core” of players and a good center.

and it made me laugh

That is all

What would you expect otherwise?

And on top of actually proposing an even worst trade you actually get it wrong on why we’re making fun of your proposal. I’m sorry but this is too funny to even explain it to you.

Need to figure out that the L*kers play at Staples, not Stables, that you don’t follow in love, you fall in love, and that trade proposals belong in the Asinine Trade Thread.

You stupid fucking Mexican. How dare you have an opinion?

You should try to….aw hell, who am I kidding – your posts will still suck.

Because you apparently haven’t figured out the rudiments of posting in a thread, but if you want to talk about poor English in people’s posts, perhaps I could point out a few of your particularly egregious errors, even more than I already did above.

Glass houses and rocks are not a good combination.

BTW, English is Ed’s second language. What’s your excuse?

And to come in and smear an entire fanbase because of a stereotypical perception of where they live is gratuitiously insulting and incredibly moronic. Go back to Laker Land, you little pissant.

Clean it up, or be gone.

I already used this, but this post is just SCREAMING for it…

It’s mind-boggling.

I can appreciate a good comeback, but that was weaker than Pau Gasol against the Cavs.

The Kings should only try to trade if they can fill a great need and be part of their young core of players. The Kings big weakness is a low post center who score and rebound also block shots. The only guy that is worth trying to trade for is Brooke Lopez … I would offer Hawes, Greene and Rodriguez for Lopez … There is about 50-50 chance that they would go for it.

Um yeah I am sure the Nets would love to give us Brook Lopez for that poo poo platter. After all, they really need that backup point guard just in case they do not get Wall in the draft. They already have a rebounding presence in the frontcourt with Yi. Pairing him with Spencer will now free him up to be an absolute presence down low.

I mean heck, now that I think about it, I heard that Larry Bird really liked Tyreke before the draft. Maybe if the Pacers offer us Brandon Rush and Roy Hibbert for Tyreke, it would really help us get a defensive minded big in our frontcourt and a solid backup. I think there would be about a 50-50 chance the kings would go for it.

Some of you King fans need to stop following in LOVE with the players and deal with their weaknesses. Teams at the top know this, teams at the bottom don’t

Trust me, I am pretty sure we would LOVE Brook Lopez we just choose not to live in the land of fairies, leprechauns, and eskimos. The fact that you can’t even understand that we think this trade is ridiculously one sided for the kings absolutely amazes me. Just because a trade works in your nba 2k10 kings franchise does not mean it works in real life.

I come from SoCal where I watched the Lakers build championship teams … Those fans expect to be in the playoffs and their failures are not winning the championship. That organization understands how build championship teams. The people on this site don’t because the Kings have never been to a championship let alone win one. Until you people get your heads out of the ground fog you never will.

This is just downright stupid. First off, are you implying that Lakers fans have osmosis or something? Just because a fan base does not accept failure means nothing. If that’s the case, then the Knicks should have won about 30 championships at this point and Oden would never be injured. I am pretty sure the Cavs sucked very much about 8 years ago and, not in spite of, but BECAUSE OF their previous suckitude, they were benefitted with the greatest player in the game.

Saying crap like this has no value, serves no purpose, is not based on any form of reality, and is just flat out rude. I don’t care about how many championships the Lakers won in the 80s, different salary structure, different league (not devaluing it, i just think it does not teach much about building teams today). They won the three in the row in the 90s-00s because they signed Shaq as a free agent (and you have already stated that Sacramento is too small a market for a big free agent splash and I agree). I think the only championship you can talk about is last year’s team and it would be utterly ridiculous to use that team as an example of how to build a championship team. Trust me, if the Kings were offered Paul Gasol for K9, Donte Green, a future first rounder, and second rounder, they would frickin do it. To not only expect some ridiculous trade like this to fall in their laps, but to actually CRITICIZE the Kings and/or their fans for not somehow making this happen is just dumb. I can’t say it any other way. And on top of that, to think that a young big like Brook Lopez (or even Noah, Perkins, Dwight Howard) is available right now is just utterly crazy talk.

RIOVISTA responding to pookeyguru Obviously in school you skipped your English classes in order to jack off somewhere … You should be out in the pasture dropping those cow chips instead of posting them on this site. I expect you to end up in a McDonalds burger because your not good enough for In & Out. He who laughs last laughs best. You already used up your entire vocabulary so you got nothing left to post. Of course anyone who reads your post knows that.

Yeah pookeyguru, you have no grasp of the English language and your vocabulary sucks! Now go crawl back into your McDonalds burger ! While you’re there resting between the quarter pound of beef on the hot hot side and the crisp lettuce and tomato on the cool cool side, me and my friends are going to hang out at In & Out and make fun of you for dropping those cow chips. Buuurrrrrnnnnn!

I hope you didn’t have to take a nap after thinking that one up.

For continually calling everyone else around here stupid, and for being a douche and a troll. Good luck in your future travels.

sensitive much?

Even though i never did that and was only mentioning him on a laudry list of young bigs who can play defense and who are untouchable right now.

And I think he still believes that we would hate having to trade Hawes for Lopez.