DallasBasketball.com: Martin and Half of Mavs Roster Share an Agent
ERGO!, Josh Howard is suddenly more attractive to the Kings. Man, what trade deadline delusion can do ...
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Key Word: Delusion
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
I was going to type "there are no words"
But delusion seems more appropriate.
I think people do need to remember we are talking about the Dallas Mavs here. That team has been linked with all kinds of wacky trade rumors in the past few years (Hell, one of those ridiculous rumors that made no sense actually happened, just not in their favor).
Remember this fine little rumor with thr Raptors last year?
http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?STORY_ID=11144
Or how about all the non stop raymond felton rumors last year
http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2009/01/raymond-felton-now-off-to-dallas/
Personally, I would hate being a Mavs fan right now. When your team is aging and past their prime and they start getting connected to wildly nonsensical trade rumors, it’s a bad sign of what is go come in the future.
by wallywagon11 on Jan 25, 2010 8:59 AM PST up reply actions
That's why Dallas fans keep talking about trades.
They want to believe the Mavs still have a shot.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
That would be funny.
Cuban wants you gone. Bang Bang
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Part of it has to do with Cuban
he’s very vocal and is always looking for ways to make that team better. The dude offered to take on New Orleans’ two worst contracts to get Chris Paul
www.mancancook.net
Maybe that Nash guy is available
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jan 25, 2010 10:01 AM PST up reply actions
the felton deal
was reportedly set to go, but Augustin got hurt and left the Bobcats without another option at PG, so the deal was nixed.
by Alan Smithee on Jan 25, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
Like nevermind the fact that Martins former agent is now the Kings assistant GM
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
Stop letting truth get in the way of Dallas fans dreams IW.
What’s the matter with you?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Only when Eric Maynor gives me the go-ahead.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
I could be cool with this. Let me explain.
This would need to be a 3 team deal in which we would receive a decent defensive center, most likely a Chandler, hopefully not an Okafor, or at least his contract, and hopefully a Haywood’ or at least his contract. We would also receive a first round pick and Roddy Beaubois. And we would also be able to get rid of Nocioni, and best case scenario Beno/Garcia, but no young players.
I am not generally in favor of moving Martin. But if we could get talent and fill needs, then I am down.
Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut
by Ice_9ine on Jan 25, 2010 8:47 AM PST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Have you ever met a Mavs fan?
Because if you ever utter the words “trade” and “Beaubois” in the same sentence, they are likely to commit a felony on your face.
by wallywagon11 on Jan 25, 2010 8:51 AM PST up reply actions
probably has something to do with an ex they all dated before … i believe her last name was Harris
by wallywagon11 on Jan 25, 2010 8:52 AM PST up reply actions
I wonder why they don't play him then?
I completely understand, I think Beaubois is gonna be an outstanding player. Kind of like a bigger Tony Parker without the defensive deficiencies.
And that is why, if a deal is to be done with Dallas that includes Kevin, he must be included.
Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut
by Ice_9ine on Jan 25, 2010 8:55 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
I really couldn't guess how good he is
But he does pass the “look” test I suppose (freakish looking athlete, little bit of a swagger, think his shot does not look broke. Granted all of this stuff could be based completely on stereotypes in my head but oh well)
He isn’t getting minutes because they have a lot of small guards already. If they can get a guard like kevin martin i think it would open up a few more minutes. OR maybe its just the fact that there are only so many minutes to go around between Kidd, Terry, Barrea, Beaubois, and Carroll (j/k about the last one there, just wanted to catch you off guard). Those are some vets they probably feel are “right now” just as good and not deserving of losing playing time yet.
by wallywagon11 on Jan 25, 2010 9:04 AM PST up reply actions
[sigh]
How do these guys get jobs . . .
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
Very carefully.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
If we HAD to trade Martin to the Mavs
I would make sure we offload Nocioni and make sure we get Roddy Beaubois. Otherwise, what’s the point? Howard would make us tougher (if he’s not hurt)… for the 6 months before he takes off for a new team.
My point exactly.
Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut
by Ice_9ine on Jan 25, 2010 9:44 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Howard's contract has a team option for next year, I believe
so he would only take off if the Kings let him… and I’m not sure that would be a terrible idea. Especially if we could dump Nocioni. That’d be quite a bit of cap space to have without obliterating our core.
www.mancancook.net
Losing Martin would be a big loss to our core
Unless you think Beaubois is going to be that good. I haven’t seen him play yet.
He is.
I would never watch another NBA game if we included Roddy in ANY kind of trade not involving Lebron.
um is kevin martin roddy
and if lebron is the litmus test for Kevin Martin … i dunno if i would bother arguing if i were you vfettke
by wallywagon11 on Jan 25, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
No, I’m saying that if the Mavericks include Beaubois as a “throw-in” to any deal involving K-Mart, I will quit watching pro basketball.
Roddy wouldn't be a throw in
He’d be one of the only reasons this deal would be worthwhile. The Mavs are in win-now mode with their roster. Adding Kevin Martin would help a hell of a lot. Beaubois, on the other hand, is young and still learning the ropes. So you’re saying you wouldn’t trade your young, inconsistent PG prospect for a better chance at winning a ring? Say this trade goes down and the Mavs win it all this year? Will you still be pissed that they gave up Roddy?
www.mancancook.net
No way
He is our PG of the future (depending on how things shake out with Nick Calathes in Greece). His defense is already miles ahead of Martin’s and if given big minutes, would be our biggest scoring threat aside from Dirk.
So you wouldn't trade your PG of the future for a better chance to win a championship now?
Dirk’s not getting any younger and is having a stellar season. Devin Harris was your PG of the future and he was traded to give the Mavs a better chance to win right now, which has proven to be quite a good decision for them. IF Roddy’s given big minutes he’s a scoring threat. But that’s a big if. Plus, he’s not your second biggest scoring threat, Jason Terry is. Also, if you want your second biggest contributor to be a rookie point guard, then there’s something wrong. Meanwhile, Martin would be your second option, and you’d still have Terry coming off the bench. Martin with Dirk would be incredible. If Dirk stays on the perimeter Martin cuts for the pass, if Dirk posts up Martin’s there to launch the three ball.
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he's all kinds of screwed up
but i wouldn’t exactly use the last three games as an indicator per se. They killed the Knicks by 50 points so I am pretty sure they were not going to risk playing him too much there
by wallywagon11 on Jan 25, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
Mavs fans view Roddy as being just as good as lawson and jennings and they are still scarred from that Kidd trade.
no way they give up another young pg again
by wallywagon11 on Jan 25, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions
I didn't know the fans owned the team.
This all comes down to Mr. Cuban. If he wants Kev, he will find a way. If Wayne Winston knows of Kevin as being super efficient, and let’s Cuban know…
But it probably won’t happen.
Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut
by Ice_9ine on Jan 25, 2010 4:43 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
sorry i didn't know who you meant by roddy
I thought u were a kings fan talking about Kevin Martin. I only knew Roddy as Beaubois. As I think I made pretty clear earlier in this post, no way Mavs fans would ever go for trading that guy.
by wallywagon11 on Jan 25, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
Holy crikes - I thought you guys were talking about Roddy McDowell
this makes much more sense
by betweentheeyes on Jan 25, 2010 5:45 PM PST up reply actions
Dang
I proposed the exact same thing in the Assinine trade thread and everyone shot it down.
Martin, Noc for
Howard, Beaubois, Gooden +Cash to buy Gooden out.
"You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, and the three most powerful men in America are named 'Bush', 'Dick', and 'Colon.' Need I say more?"
-Chris Rock
I'll shoot you down in this thread too
Hell to the fucking A no.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Yeah i'm not convinced of it
But getting someone to take Noc off our hands would be great. And Beaubois has a ton of potential. I think this might be the best offer we would get if the front office does try to trade Kevin. Which may mean we just end up holding onto him. But i don’t think this is a horrible offer, at all.
"You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, and the three most powerful men in America are named 'Bush', 'Dick', and 'Colon.' Need I say more?"
-Chris Rock
The offer isn't horrible.
But, like you ZK, I agree that it’s worth not trading Kevin.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
At least Josh Howard
Would put this team on a higher level. Wait, that’s not a good thing.
There will be a SammyP wherever you go. But don't worry, it scared me at first too.
by Sammyp831 on Jan 25, 2010 9:36 AM PST reply actions 9 recs
I'm not too sure he would
Since returning from ankle surgery he’s had many injuries and sucked for the most part.
by KingsFan on Jan 25, 2010 10:03 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Sense of humor fail
www.mancancook.net
by vfettke on Jan 25, 2010 10:21 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
To top it off...It's actually a link
which adds a little bit more to it than the bold.
There will be a SammyP wherever you go. But don't worry, it scared me at first too.
Yeah, ha
Did not see the higher link.
But it probably won’t be long till pot is legal and there is no prohibition on NBA players using it for medicinal purposes.
I think Howard’s physical condition is much more important than his pot smoking. Truth be told, probably most of the NBA players already smoke pot. So what?
although not really an ethical arguement against it
I would be sorta worried about their endurance with all that smoke in their lungs. I wasn’t the biggest fan of Vlade being a chain smoker. (by the way, don’t know all the testing they do over marijuana now but i would think most of that stuff goes on just during the off season. Although i do remember when they started testing they only did it at the beginning of the season so i am assuming that this has been changed somewhat)
by wallywagon11 on Jan 26, 2010 8:52 AM PST up reply actions
Kinda like all the rest of the athletes who smoke(d) pot….
(Swimming) – Michael Phelps
(NBA) – Damon Stoudamire, Allen Iverson, Carmelo Anthony, Rasheed Wallace, Chris Webber, Corey Blount
(NFL) – Michael Vick, Travis Henry, Randy Moss, Santonio Holmes,Ricky Williams
(MLB) – Tim Lincecum
You think it hurt them very much..Nah
Judgment day is coming!
I can't help but look at that list and think that alot of people on it are some serious head cases
although my logic here might be the equivalent of putting the cart before the horse.
by wallywagon11 on Jan 26, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
Since I'm a contributor to StR group think
I too will rec this.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
I'm a new man..
Times are a changin’.
There will be a SammyP wherever you go. But don't worry, it scared me at first too.
Just don't go Blowin in the Wind Bob Dylan.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
I rec anything I like on here, too bad there isn’t a ‘reverse rec’ or something
by TheFifthMookie on Jan 25, 2010 7:01 PM PST up reply actions
There's no reverse rec
Because there would then be trolls who simply reverse rec’d everyone and the effort to ban them all just isn’t worth it.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement, Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order, and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
I'm pretty sure Chris Webber and Jason Williams
got stoned pre game….they looked wasted at beginning of games
Decided to look up Howards info...
Maybe there is something seriously wrong here. Somebody coming back from injury should see increasing minutes…
The last three games he has gone from 31 to 25 and then down to 15 minutes. Seems like his injury isn’t healed.
If they pulled the trigger
I would think their would be a 3rd team involved. That 3rd team better have a stud big if we trade Martin!
Don't you get it?!
They have the same agent! Clearly that means that Geoff Petrie will trade Martin!
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
I missed the sarcasm.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
At least you didn't fall into it.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement, Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order, and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
I do my best.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Get this I hear Martin and ALL of the Mavs have the same union,
not saying its a done deal, just something that makes you say hmmmm.
There now I've met the 75 word count. -pookeyguru
I hear Martin and half the Mavs play in the same basketball league
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 25, 2010 10:09 PM PST reply actions
Naa
I don’t wanna see none of our good talent go…I mean always gotta look at whats on the table, but I’m sick of offloading good players, where they flourish on other teams….
Unless its a trade where we get really good solid talent, then no way. Not for picks, expirings, cash etc…Only good players and top picks.
Too bad Gerald Wallace isn't available ever since he started ballin' it up i've been so mad we let him leave
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 26, 2010 9:06 AM PST reply actions
It does boggle the mind
The Kings could have been 500 this…….year!
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
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