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Preview: Warriors at Kings

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THE OPPONENT

Two teams in the Western Conference have worse records than the Kings, and the Warriors are one of them. Golden State started mad slowly, but the Kings have hit molasses, and Sacramento sits 1-1/2 games ahead of the Warriors for the coveted fourth place in the Pacific. Really, these are similar teams: young in most spots, talented all over, a bit of a mess in total.

Golden State plays, unsurprisingly, at the league's fastest pace, averaging 100 possessions per game. It will also be unsurprising to careful observers that the Golden State defense is quite bad, though not any worse than that of Sacramento or a few others. Despite the team's gaudy points per game figure (3rd at 107), the Warriors play offense at middling levels, currently 17th in the league in offensive rating.

The Warriors have been beset by injuries, and tonight's game should be no exception. Monta Ellis is questionable, Anthony Morrow is out, Kelenna Azubuike and Anthony Randolph are of course out, Vlad Radmanovic is questionable. Obviously, Ellis sitting would seem a boon to the Kings -- he's a dynamic scorer, one of the league's best. But the Warriors offense really isn't very efficient with Monta soaking up so much of it, and honestly I'm a bit worried extra reps for Corey Maggette (brilliant this year) and Steph Curry could do more damage than Ellis would have. We'll see.

Creating turnovers is what the Warriors do best. Rebounding -- at both ends -- is what they do worst. You see why the Kings can win or lose to this team, yes? The Kings can't control the ball, but the Warriors can't hurt the Kings on the boards. It comes down to mitigating your weakness, or exploiting that of the other team. Ellis and Curry both rack up the steals, so if the former is out Tyreke Evans and Kevin Martin ought to watch out for the latter.

Take it away, HT!

KEY BATTLE

Corey Maggette vs. the Kings defense. Maggs has been quietly brilliant this season: nearly 21 points on about 16 shot attempts a game, an insane True Shooting of .647 on a 26 percent usage rate, a rebound rate of 11 percent at the combo forward. Just brilliant work from a maligned player.

The Kings don't have success stopping anyone at any position, though small forwards have had the toughest slog against the likes of Donte Greene, Ime Udoka, Omri Casspi and Andres Nocioni. In the two previous matchups, Maggs had 20 points in 25 minutes off the bench (on 12 FGAs) and 24 points in 42 minutes (on 16 FGAs and 14 FTAs) as a starter. In that second, less effective game, Casspi and Udoka took the lead against Maggette. We'll see how much stock the coaching staff puts into that when filling out the line-up card tonight.

BOLD PROCLAMATION

There is no spoon.

BOLD BROCKLAMATION

"The hip bone is connected to the 'I'ma ufck you up, Gravity!' bone," Jon Brockman teaches the kids in his Sunday School class.

DETAILS

7 PM PST, brothers and sisters. Game threads (promise!) at 7 and 8:15, post-gamer at 9:45.

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time for a 6 game winning streak!

Remember folks, I'm almost always wrong.
My sig was too long...

by Scott Coleman on Jan 26, 2010 12:03 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Like, even if I didn't have an account

I would create one to rec these. HighTops: singlehandedly keeping my knowledge of the league alive.
Thanks.

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by iashwash on Jan 26, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Impressive

Thanks HT!

Make no mistake about it, Maggette is a beast. He ranked a 97.5 (All-Star) coming out of college on my college ranking system so I have been waiting for someone to let him shine. Same with Zach Randolph of Memphis (96.5). Maggette is going to be a rough cover tonight.

Kings rule! (They are royalty - right?)

by dalt99 on Jan 26, 2010 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Just so people know.

Brockman is out via the Kings twitter.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Jan 26, 2010 12:15 PM PST reply actions  

if he was gonna miss a game

this is the one. he’s not exactly a burner up and down the court

Section214 is my hero. Good shakes!

by debrixtha1 on Jan 26, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I think

that he runs the court well for his size and position. IMO, he runs better than Shock, and def. Hawes.

by DustyG on Jan 26, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Does anyone think the kings should just go back to...

Evans, Martin, Casspi, Thompson, Hawes or even Evans, Martin, Noc, Thompson, and Hawes … those are the lineups that got us started so well.

Hope

by Ultrakingsfan on Jan 26, 2010 12:20 PM PST reply actions  

This is a rebuild year, correct?

In past seasons, there were a lot of complaints that the coaching staff wasn’t playing the young guys enough, and we had to trade away the vets to make room the the youth to get playing time. Well the top 6 players listed by mpg are KMart, Tyreke,JT, Beno, Casspi, and Spencer. And, Donte is 8th. So, the youth is getting it’s minutes, so does it really matter who’s starting and who’s finishing the game?

Plus with the trade deadline coming up, and the draft and FA singing period being between now and the start of next season, who knows who are starters will be in 9 monthes. That being said, after the trade deadline, I expect the lineups and rotations to stablize more.

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by HighTops on Jan 26, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

People get mad that the young guys are playing

And then they get mad the team doesn’t win. You can never satisfy everyone, as you know all too tell HT.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Jan 26, 2010 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

young guys aren't playing^

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Jan 26, 2010 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Eric Maynor CAN

actually, satusfy everyone

"Even when I’m old and grey, I won’t be able to play it, but I’ll still love the game." — Michael Jordan

Go Kings!

by Panzerfaust on Jan 26, 2010 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Is satusfy the old English spelling of satisfy?

:P

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Jan 26, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

No

Its a new word for the feeling Eric Maynor gives us.

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by Aykis16 on Jan 26, 2010 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Good call

My apologies Panz.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Jan 26, 2010 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I say nay

Start Nocioni and Donté at the forward spots. They can both guard either Tolliver or Maggette.

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by Ice_9ine on Jan 26, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

No JT?

If JT can’t guard Tolliver, something is seriously wrong. Unless you were thinking he’d be starting at center.

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by Exhibit G on Jan 26, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

If you saw the GS vs Pho game where Tolliver outplayed Amare, you might not be so sure.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy

by HighTops on Jan 26, 2010 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Played with Iowa of the D-league

In 2007 saw time in Cle, and in 2008 was with Spurs. Then earlier this year was with Por, I believe, before he got picked up by GS.

Saturday against PHO, he was 19/11 on 9 of 15 floor and 1-5 from 3pt. He also had 1 block and 1 assist. Amare went for 15/5 on 5 of 13 field with 1 asst and 0 blocks.

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by HighTops on Jan 26, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

And Phoenix won.

Father of the "Natt this!" movement, Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order, and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Jan 26, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

JT is probably the Kings biggest weapon against the Warriors

I want to see a huge game from him.

I say start Tyreke, Kevin, Donté, JT, and Spence then go from there.

Nobody in the Warriors backcourt can guard either of Tyreke or Kevin, so we’ll probably see Maggete on Tyreke, and Kevin will have to take advantage. HAVE to. None of this no shooting bs.

Father of the "Natt this!" movement, Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order, and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Jan 26, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Wrong!

Chapu is the biggest weapon against the Warriors. But he won’t really get an opportunity to play… as usual.

"Oh, y ahora ¿quién podrá defenderme?" "¡Yo!"

by chapuforyou on Jan 26, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Chapu's tears of joy can win championships...

…Too bad for us he can’t possibly feel joy.

by clicc916 on Jan 26, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Or cry.

Father of the "Natt this!" movement, Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order, and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Jan 26, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I have powers that involve Noc

Every time I write “I want Omri in instead of Noc” Noc does something good. Maybe I should write that more often.

Father of the "Natt this!" movement, Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order, and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Jan 26, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll bet that doesn't happen often.

Noc has the worst shooting percentage of any King who has played more than 11 games.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy

by HighTops on Jan 26, 2010 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Lol no I only did it during the Bobcats game

If you go read that thread. It was actually quite hilarious, and it happened during the comeback.

Father of the "Natt this!" movement, Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order, and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Jan 26, 2010 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

His AFG% is higher than Reke's

"Oh, y ahora ¿quién podrá defenderme?" "¡Yo!"

by chapuforyou on Jan 26, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think comparing him to Tyreke wins you much

Away from the rim, Tyreke is the worst shooter on the team. That has been the story on him since he was drafted. Noc takes 43% of his shots from beyond the 3pt line, the highest on the team, but even with the extra point this shooting percentage from 3pt range is only 52.6%. If you just look at his made shots to attemped shots, he’s actually only hitting 40.6% of all his FGA’s.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy

by HighTops on Jan 26, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

True

Tyreke’s jumpers make me so nervous all the time, but when they go in they are sweet cause he has such a friggin rainbow shot

by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 26, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

OK -

Then I think that Chapu is untradeable.

C’mon, Noc – prove me wrong!

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by section214 on Jan 26, 2010 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

or reverse psychology, maybe he needs some time in the d-league

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
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by HighTops on Jan 26, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

He's been more like cha-poo lately

"When you look at him, you say: 'Holy God.'" - Pete Carril on Tyreke Evans

by otis29 on Jan 26, 2010 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Cartier Martin probably starts at SG

He’s 6’7" and 220lbs, and although he’s mostly known as a scorer.

Martin was with the Warriors during the Summer League in Las Vegas, where he averaged 19.7 points, 4.3 rebounds, 1.33 steals and 1 block in 29.3 minutes over three games.

He does have the size to defend Tyreke, and by his 1.33 steals and 1 block per game during summer league, he might have decent defensive skills. But, I really could find anything else about his defense.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy

by HighTops on Jan 26, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

correction: really couldn't find anything else.

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by HighTops on Jan 26, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

If Cartier Martin can guard Tyreke Evans

Send Tyreke to the D-League.

By the way, Martin’s Defensive rating is 114. IN THE D-LEAGUE.

He’s actually at 112 in the NBA, but was at 107 last year with Charlotte, who only play defense.

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by Aykis16 on Jan 26, 2010 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Definitely Maggette would be a better defender

And, you don’t always have to put your best defender on the other teams best offensive player. Sometime it’s better to shut down the 2nd option, especially when no one you have can shut down the first option.
Example: We had Donte trying to cover Wade, and Wade still got his numbers. But the guy who hurt is just as much was Beasley both in points and rebounds. So, maybe we should have put someone else on Wade and let him get his numbers, but put Donte on Beasley and try and shut him down.

In that vein of thought, C. Martin may be adequate to defend Tyreke, since he’s going to get his number even if Maggette guards him. Also, exerting so much energy trying to defend Tyreke, might hurt Maggette’s offensive game. Just saying.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
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by HighTops on Jan 26, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree

If the Warriors biggest problem is rebounding I expect JT to have a big game on the offensive glass

by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jan 26, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd like to see a huge game from JT as well

A good solid win would do a lot for the guys right now.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Jan 26, 2010 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Big game for Curry, Tyreke

in the ROY race.

Curry has a chance to do to Tyreke what Tyreke did to Jennings in Milwaukee: lerad his team to victory on the opposing rookie’s home floor.

As High Tops points out above, Curry’s stats over the past 10 games are Tyreke-like, so don’t discount him sneaking up and stealing that trophy. I’m sure that would fit in nicely with Curry’s “blueprint.”

"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."

by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 26, 2010 1:59 PM PST reply actions  

If Curry keeps up these stats

And Tyreke keeps up his, Tyreke will still win RoY. Tyreke is the only rookie that has shown consistency all year. Plus he’s probably one of the better rookies at defense (although after watching Jrue Holiday, I’ve got to say he wins Defensive Rookie of the Year hands down).

Tyreke would have to either miss serious time, have a huge dip in his game, or Curry would have to have a huge uptick in his game and have the Warriors win a lot more than the Kings during the remainder of the season.

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by Aykis16 on Jan 26, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed
Tyreke would have to either miss serious time, have a huge dip in his game, or Curry would have to have a huge uptick in his game and have the Warriors win a lot more than the Kings during the remainder of the season.

That is the scenario. But basically I’d be looking at a Tyreke dip to 18 points per game and Curry to have to move into the same area and the Warriors to win the season series and the Warriors to win at least five more games than the Kings. And I don’t think any of those things is too hard to imagine.

Don’t know what the status of Tyreke’s court case is or will be, but in a close vote that could figure in as well.

"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."

by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 26, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Civil trial ...so no

He is criminally cleared. So thats not even a fart.
I love Curry….if Jackson had been gone all year his numbers would be right there. But Evans is light years ahead on D.
I’m not sure what you think, but someone in the Ellis Curry backcourt has got to go, it is too bad defensivelyy If Ellis could be traded with something for a quality big, the Ws would take a big jump.

by ElRonToro on Jan 26, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Trade Ellis

Perhaps for Stoudemire.

Father of the "Natt this!" movement, Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order, and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Jan 26, 2010 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

No way

No way I agree with ElRonToro here that no civil trial is going to matter. He was never charged with any wrongdoing.

Furthermore, it is really unrealistic to think Curry can catch up offensively. He is scoring 13.7 ppg. He would have to score and average of 22.5 ppg just to reach an average of 18 ppg for the season. He would have to average 28.5 ppg to catch up with Tyreke at 20.7 ppg.

Also, Tyreke would have to drop down to 15.5 ppg to get down to 18 ppg for the season. Not likely as he has been missing shots he should be making and his numbers are likely to increase rather than decrease once he gets that worked out, but then I am a glass is half full kind of guy.

by MustangMBS on Jan 26, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

If JT and Hawes have yet another terrible game tonight

Just take them out back and put them out of their misery. Seriously, this is the perfect opponent at the perfect time for them both to build some confidence.

by rsheldon7 on Jan 26, 2010 2:01 PM PST reply actions  

I don't know if its the perfect opponent for Spencer

But it is the perfect opponent for JT. He can go 20-20 tonight like he did in the Pre-season.

Father of the "Natt this!" movement, Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order, and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Jan 26, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I like your style.

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by iashwash on Jan 26, 2010 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

YES GO KINGS!

Im an optimist, but it doesn’t take an optimist to say that we will win this. 100.1% sure this is a win after a terrible road trip. Sure it will be tough, but with the best crowd in the NBA behind our young stars, and knowing KMart always plays good at Arco and against GSW (I believe he had a career high 50+ game against GSW) we WILL win.

by MexicanSKFan2Death on Jan 26, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

HOME COURT IS WHAT THEY NEED

they usually play with heart under a big crowd. & tonight is Martin’s homecoming. sooo the crowd SHOULD have energy.. so the crowds energy = the players boost of energy = CHEMISTRY BUILD-UP….ehhh hopefully.

by Josh916 on Jan 26, 2010 2:46 PM PST reply actions  

If they play like they played at Oracle they probably win despite blowing a 20 pt lead because of home court

if they continue to play like they played on the road trip they lose

"I make love to pressure" - Stephen Jackson

by Bluejohn on Jan 26, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

"come out and playee-aay"

Sound the trumpets, Raise the drawbridge, and drop the Oldsmobile

by Balky Needs on Jan 26, 2010 2:59 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

I would have taken that bet if Ellis were playing

But since he’s not I doubt it.

Father of the "Natt this!" movement, Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order, and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Jan 26, 2010 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Bold Prediction

Brockman will score the same as Sean May

by White Brocklate on Jan 26, 2010 4:13 PM PST reply actions  

Things to Watch for Tonight

I’m eager to watch for a couple things tonight in the half court offense:
1. What percentage of FG baskets do the Kings score on 1-on-1 plays from the perimeter or post-ups and if they do score this way, who was it. I have a feeling Tyreke will be #1 in this category.
2. What percentage of FG baskets do the Kings score from perimeter passes.
3. What percentage of FG baskets do the Kings score from penetration and dish plays.

I have a feeling that number 1 and 2 will be the larger numbers of attempts but that number 3 will be the best FG%. I’m curious to find out.

Kings rule! (They are royalty - right?)

by dalt99 on Jan 26, 2010 4:48 PM PST reply actions  

dalt

Use hoopdata.com after the game to look at the Advanced Box score. You might find a few of your questions answered there.

Father of the "Natt this!" movement, Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order, and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Jan 26, 2010 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I know he's our guy

but thats looks like a foul on Reke

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Jan 26, 2010 4:56 PM PST reply actions  

Hope I can say....

“Gotta Love your Sacramento Kings” after this game…Go Kings!

Great comments, HT, very well thought out.

by Rhondda the musician on Jan 26, 2010 5:21 PM PST reply actions  

Fearless forecast: Kings win 125-115, Reke, Kmart and JT get career highs...

Nocioni comes off bench to score 20pts, Spencer, Donte and Casspi have good all-around games and chapuforyou and I do a victory jig.

There can only be one Noce!

by NoceOne on Jan 26, 2010 5:55 PM PST reply actions  

Reke K-Mart and JT get career highs?

That means K-Mart at least 51, Reke, 35, and JT 28 which = 114 points. Ergo, Noc would not be able to score 20 points to fit in your prediction. QED Noc does not exist.

Father of the "Natt this!" movement, Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order, and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Jan 26, 2010 6:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Damn it, we have to be logical here?

Okay then, we win 1090-1070. In octuple overtime.

There can only be one Noce!

by NoceOne on Jan 26, 2010 6:31 PM PST up reply actions  

How's my Spanish

Me gusta e tus kings, victoria e’ one hundred-cuatro de one hundred-uno

TRANSLATION
I like the kings, to win 104 to 101

KINGS WILL BE 09-10 CHAMPIONS

by haze0945 on Jan 26, 2010 6:42 PM PST reply actions  

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