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Preview: Kings at Warriors

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THE OPPONENT

The Warriors, contrary to November, fight. Monta Ellis plays 49 minutes a game (or something), Corey Maggette would be an All-Star on Neptune (rational voters there) and Stephen Curry has proven useful if not better altogether pleasant. For some reason, "wacky" has dissembled into "alarmingly curious," and the sheer talent on the roster allows for a nice bit of competitive behavior in the box score.

LAST TIME

Tyreke Evans introduced the Ellis-Curry pairing to a little something he calls EL BENO UDRIH. Kings won.

THE KEY BATTLE

I would've loved to have been able to write Kevin Martin vs. Curry, but alas it was not meant to be. So let's go with ... Evans vs. Curry! I assume Beno Udrih (who just murdered Golden State in November) will get another go in advance of Martin's return. Given how desperately Don Nelson wants to play Ellis and Curry together, he just has no answer to this riddle, and he really ought to just be glad Martin isn't back yet.

BOLD PROCLAMATION

A King will register a triple double, thanks to a Oracle-inspired spike in missed field goals and transition opportunities.

INTERESTING SIDESHOW

GSoM Night 8! Anyone taking the long escalator ride into the deathtrap? (Sucker.)

NUMERIC PREDICTION

Kings by 14. (Love you, Stan.)

DETAILS

Comcast and 1140 AM at 7:30PM. Just one game thread for a Friday night. Post-gamer at 9:45.

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I hope the Kings win tonight while the GSOM crew are at the game.

"When I get up in the mourning I piss excellence."-Ricky Bobby

by 49er16 on Jan 8, 2010 1:06 PM PST reply actions  

I'll be at the game

JT jersey and all. Should I solemnly clap when we are kicking their ass? Or should I be obnoxious? I have both moves in my repertoire.

by VenomySnicket on Jan 8, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Whoa whoa...

No need to steal. Just ask…

Have fun and good luck!

We still believe!!

Become a fan on facebook! www.facebook.com/goldenstateofmind

by R Dizzle on Jan 8, 2010 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

No cage death matches?

I’m disappointed.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Jan 8, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Not tonight pookey...not tonight.

But there is a pie eating contest you can challenge us to.

We still believe!!

Become a fan on facebook! www.facebook.com/goldenstateofmind

by R Dizzle on Jan 8, 2010 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

Only one such contest that pookey loses and that is eating pancakes cause we already having a reigning champ

by MustangMBS on Jan 8, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Fuck you both

I don’t eat pie that much. Now, french fries, it’s your ass.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Jan 8, 2010 7:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I do love me some honey this is true.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Jan 8, 2010 7:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm on it, hoss.

I pick up the shirt when I get my tickets at Will Call.

I have not yet decided what to do with it. One of my closest friends is a GSW fan, so I might give it to him. Then again, that slogan is so offensive that I might do something else entirely. Suggestions?

"El once, chico. Eleven."

by Juan Primo on Jan 8, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Obnoxious while singing "Millions of Peaches"...

Hard work beats talent when talent is hardly working...

by kromeace on Jan 8, 2010 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

game at 7 or 730?????

espn has the game set for 730

F#ck Kobe Bryant.
F#ck Shaquille O’Neal
F#ck Phil Jackson
F#ck Rick Fox (twice)
F#ck Sasha Vujacic
F#ck Robert Horry
F#ck Derek Fisher
F#ck Dick Bavetta, Bob Delaney and Ted Bernhardt – I’m still waiting for them to have their jerseys retired at Staples.
F#ck Every Laker fan who comes to Arco Arena, wears his hat sideways and stands up and cheers with his arms out and his back to the floor whenever Kobe scores a basket.
Oh, and F#ck Jack Nicholson, Dyan Cannon, and that silver haired douchebag wearing the snakeskin boots.

Who’d I miss?

by B-RAD on Jan 8, 2010 1:28 PM PST reply actions  

It's always 7:30 in Oakland unless the national media changes it.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Jan 8, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Unless it's Sunday then it's 6:30

That’s the way it always is throughout the year.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Jan 8, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Very nice, b-rad, very nice.

F#ck Every Laker fan who comes to Arco Arena, wears his hat sideways and stands up and cheers with his arms out and his back to the floor whenever Kobe scores a basket.

33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.

by JETisKing on Jan 8, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I usually don't read sigs

but B-RADS is awesome. CSN has the time at 730

by allbenji's on Jan 8, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Going To The Game Tonight Guys

I’ll be the crazy guy in section 122.

If Winning Isn't Everthing, Why Do They Keep Score? - Vince Lombardi

by Rayder K on Jan 8, 2010 1:33 PM PST reply actions  

Just want to take a moment to say

it has been one year today since I joined StR, and you guys have been great!, This is my 984th comment ,of which 7 have been intelligent, 1 insightful, and all misspelled. I have 13 blogs one amusing and the rest mostly questions to find out stuff from you guys (i still think we should have a question section). Any, thanks again,and now back to relevance.
I am looking forward to Tyreke versus the mini guards of GS. As long as JT ands Tyreke stay out a foul trouble, and we slow down there break , we should be good. This is the type of game where Spence doesn’t get may minutes. I am looking forward to picking up a W (not Bush) and then Martin (not MLK) returning Tuesday._

by ElRonToro on Jan 8, 2010 1:48 PM PST reply actions  

I like the question section Idea

Something for people to post questions that aren’t quite fanposts, and not a fanshot to anything. Maybe make an Asinine Question thread for each week, for us to discuss topics that aren’t being discussed in comments (or to post thoughts that you wanted to post in a relative thread that isn’t being discussed anymore)

by Gilo424 on Jan 8, 2010 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Ice-9ine

Claims he is the whole inspiration of the idea

and doesn’t know why we haven’t gotten that yet.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Jan 8, 2010 5:34 PM PST up reply actions  

i am not comfortable being your muse, LTTG

I am not here to inspire. I am not a role model.

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Jan 8, 2010 6:47 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Is Martin really supposed to return on TuesdaY?

Or did you just make that up? haha…I haven’t seen anything about a date for his return.

The NBA: "Where 27 free throws happens"

by lodisacfan on Jan 8, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

He meets with a doctor next week

where he’ll hopefully get the OK to return

www.mancancook.net

by vfettke on Jan 8, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Very cool

The NBA: "Where 27 free throws happens"

by lodisacfan on Jan 8, 2010 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

He's supposed to meet with doctor Tuesday,

so he could be release to play that night, and he has been shoting for some time now.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy

by HighTops on Jan 8, 2010 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

It's about damn time

I was beginning to think Cisco will beat him back

by KingsFan on Jan 8, 2010 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

The Warriors fans

seem to think he is playing today, i dont where they got that from, read in their preview for this game

by JZiadeh on Jan 8, 2010 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, ceiling and window, it doesn't get very hot so they don't need air conditioning.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy

by HighTops on Jan 8, 2010 5:43 PM PST up reply actions  

has it only been a year? Seems longer

I have to say when I don’t know which way I lean on a basketball related issue (way too often) your opinion often tends to help me establish mine. I mean I’m no ElRon homer or anything thing but I do respect your opinion. Congratulations. as two of the older guys here, ummmm…….forgot what I was going to say.

"I make love to pressure" - Stephen Jackson

by Bluejohn on Jan 8, 2010 5:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I can't believe Mar 5th 2010 will be my third active year commenting at StR

What a long fucking time. I suck.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Jan 8, 2010 7:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Is there a way to find your "joined" date if it was before the Apr 08 move to SBN?

I think I joined in Nov. 07, but am not positive.

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Jan 8, 2010 7:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes

It says on your SBN account. My first comment on StR was on March 5th (or March 6th; I forget), but my actual join date was on Oct 24th 2005. (I didn’t comment for a year & half. Imagine that.)

You jointed on Oct 11th 2007 Kfan.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Jan 8, 2010 7:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Jan 8, 2010 7:32 PM PST up reply actions  

My 3 year anniversary

is tomorrow! …or should I say Sunday for you guys :D

by kinginaus on Jan 8, 2010 7:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Congrats!

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Jan 8, 2010 7:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh!

I’m there. I will be the loan Kings fan with a bunch of Waaarrrriorrs! Wave to me if you see me on TV. I won’t wave back.

Don't hate, I'm a realist!

by Sammyp831 on Jan 8, 2010 1:59 PM PST reply actions  

Respectability?

""Balance your right to dissent, with your responsibility to contribute."
Gordan Ryan

by SavageBeast on Jan 8, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

They need more fans

I guess loaning them Sammy can only make the situation better…

by MustangMBS on Jan 8, 2010 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd say just make it an outright gift.

"I make love to pressure" - Stephen Jackson

by Bluejohn on Jan 8, 2010 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Don Nelson and his horde, against PW and his ROY lineup.

Not much to say about either teams defense, except the Kings occasionally show one. GSW like the Kings had a better record early in the season (6-10), but since Dec 1st are only 4 & 14. Also, like the Kings, the Warriors are much better at home with a 6-7 home record, putting them at 4-17 on the road. Which means they played less than 40% of their games at home, and might indicate that they are better than their 10-24 record implies.

Since Dec 1st they have 2 road wins against NJN & MIN, but they have 2 impressive home wins against BOS & PHX. Meanwhile except for a 1-point loss to Denver, the Warriors haven’t challenged many teams, and the Kings have battled some of the best in the league down to the wire.

In the last meeting in Sac, the Kings won every important stat except Fast Break Points. The Kings had 62 points in the paint to their 46, 52 Rebs to their 34, 15 ORB’s to their 7, 38 FTA’s to their 28, while both teams averaged around 50% shooting and limited turnovers to 14 each.

The starting backcourt of Curry & Ellis, means PW doesn’t need to start one of our SF’s at the 2, so expect Tyreke and Beno to go for the Kings, and give the Warriors backcourt way too much trouble. Although the Kings need to be careful with the ball because the Warriors are averaging an amazing 9+ steals a game.

With Turiaf, Randolph, and Maggette on the front line, PW has the option of starting Donte at the PF, but I expect him to start Spencer, JT, & Omri. But, he’s fooled me more than once, so JT starting at center and Spencer coming of the bench might not be out of the question.

GS needs to have a couple of players to really get blistering hot from the field to pull off a win. I expect the Kings to slow down the pace, but with Tyreke starting at PG was there ever any doubt. And, the Kings will dominate the glass, so there’s really no need for everyone to hit the boards for rebounds. I’d like to see at least 2 players drop back as soon as any shot goes up, to defend against the fast break.

In an offensive onslaught like this game should be, I’m not sure how many minutes our defensive bench players like Ime & Jon will get. But, I expect the Kings bench to out play the Warriors bench. The game looks to be closer than it might seem, but the outcome shouldn’t really be in doubt. I like the Kings by 8, 117-109. Go Kings.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy

by HighTops on Jan 8, 2010 2:40 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Oooh, Biedrins and Turiaf

I’m shakin’ in mah boots!

www.mancancook.net

by vfettke on Jan 8, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Turiaf

Good matchup for Brockman.

"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."

by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 8, 2010 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Well

Brockman needs a couple of new bitches in his entourage

by MustangMBS on Jan 8, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

His entourage

Includes all those who have wondered what Mack truck ran them over only to realize that his Brockness had arrived.

by MustangMBS on Jan 8, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

lol...

turiaf isn’t french and he doesn’t have a heart problem…

"so much losers" - hiero

by montamazing on Jan 8, 2010 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Try again:


Turiaf spent most of his childhood in Martinique, a French oversea department in the Caribbean Sea

That means its a french island in the carribean, therefore he is french. His nationality shows french..He’s a damn frenchie.

Judgment day is coming!

by Widowwolf on Jan 8, 2010 7:17 PM PST up reply actions  

As the Monster crawls from the bay,

the Frenchman makes WEE WEE.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy

by HighTops on Jan 8, 2010 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

and if Randolph gets much burn the one thing he can do consistently well is to block shots

I think the dubs are going to be up for this game in a big way and I don’t think it’s going to be a walkover by any means (hope I’m wrong). If I was a betting man (not at all) I think the bet might be over/under 285. The dubs defense is mainly ball hawking on the passing lanes in transition and I’m a little concerned by our propensity for turning the rock over, they will capitalize and score.

This should be a winnable road game. I would love to see the Kings beat the dubs handily and shut up their fans for the balance of this season. If the Kings lose we are going to hear about it forever. This should be a good gut check to see where the Kings are as a team

"I make love to pressure" - Stephen Jackson

by Bluejohn on Jan 8, 2010 5:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll be there too

Was tempted to join GSoM, but decided against it. Go Kings!

by big_beast on Jan 8, 2010 2:41 PM PST reply actions  

For some reason, “wacky” has dissembled into “alarmingly curious,”

good stuff…..

Section214 is my hero. Good shakes!

by debrixtha1 on Jan 8, 2010 2:52 PM PST reply actions  

I like the bold proclamation

Tyreke could have a monster triple double because they’re playing the Dubs, just like Brando dropped 55 on ’em

www.mancancook.net

by vfettke on Jan 8, 2010 3:06 PM PST reply actions  

Maybe Brockness goes for 10 ORbs today.

Should be easy to grab.
Reke should get very close to trip dub (25-10-9).

And Omri will have his career high today. 30+pts.

Screw you Knicks! LBJ to the Kings!!!

by Shizzo on Jan 8, 2010 3:06 PM PST reply actions  

I think every rebound Tyreke has turns into an assist to Omri

he’ll grab the board and throw it downcourt to Casspi who will dunk every one as hard as he can

www.mancancook.net

by vfettke on Jan 8, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Good call

Might be Omri’s first 30 pt night

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Jan 8, 2010 5:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Anyone think

that Ellis and Curry combined will have a chance at stopping Tyreke?

www.mancancook.net

by vfettke on Jan 8, 2010 3:07 PM PST reply actions  

Neither will even try to stop him

Ellis will just try to outscore him. Curry will run home to daddy.

Screw you Knicks! LBJ to the Kings!!!

by Shizzo on Jan 8, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

In two games this year

One in preseason and one in the regular season, the only Warrior who was even remotely able to slow Tyreke down was Stephen Jackson. Since hes not here, I expect to see Maggete play Tyreke most of the time. Also in the previous matches, Tyreke has absolutely dominated Monta Ellis.

Father of the "Natt this!" movement and Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order.

by Aykis16 on Jan 8, 2010 4:22 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Ooooh, Maggette!

I bet Tyreke’s scurred now!

www.mancancook.net

by vfettke on Jan 8, 2010 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Kings Fans Unite!

We’re going into enemy territory tonight. I live in the bay area & will be at the game. Warriors fans hate the kings — maybe it’s an inferiority complex — so I’m expecting a nice reaction from the home fans when they see my friend & I decked out in Sac gear, esp. since we’re sitting in row 5 of Sec 108.

If any other Kings fans are going to the game, let us know where you’ll be. We need to represent Sactown HARD tonight…our young Kings need us tonight in hostile Oracle Arena.

by MadProphet on Jan 8, 2010 3:12 PM PST reply actions  

Have fun and thanks for reppin'.

Tell a third of those Warriors fans they can start rooting for Sac again now…keyword: again.

33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.

by JETisKing on Jan 8, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL!!!

oh, the good old days

Screw you Knicks! LBJ to the Kings!!!

by Shizzo on Jan 8, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha

My god, that’s so true…

by MadProphet on Jan 8, 2010 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah because kings fans didn't jump ship to the warriors when guys were in the basement

and we were the most exciting team to watch in the nba…

rolls eyes

"so much losers" - hiero

by montamazing on Jan 8, 2010 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

i would say the following...

where we won 48 games we were still the most exciting team…and there are fairweather fans everywhere.

i’m sure (know) there were kings fans that jumped on our bandwagon then, just as there were warriors fans that jumped ship to the kings in their hay-day…

atleast the warriors always fill up oracle…

what was the kings avg attendance last year? 200…lol

"so much losers" - hiero

by montamazing on Jan 8, 2010 6:05 PM PST up reply actions  

nobody from SAC jumped

Curious what your attendance will be next year. It takes a year or two (as we know) for season tix holders to walk away.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Jan 8, 2010 6:08 PM PST up reply actions  

warriors were terrible throughout the 90's and the attendance was always

pretty damn good…considering…

if nobody from sac jumped then why was arco full over warriros fans (more than kings fans) two years ago when i was there…

"so much losers" - hiero

by montamazing on Jan 8, 2010 6:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Which couple seconds of exciting was that again

Judgment day is coming!

by Widowwolf on Jan 8, 2010 7:20 PM PST up reply actions  

upper level

Section 204..i’ll be wearing a Kings sweatshirt amid some warrior fans…

by big_beast on Jan 8, 2010 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey big_beast

Way to represent the Kings. Should be a fun game.

I’m used to being around Gstate fans. My entire fam is made up of Warriors fans and I live in the bay. Even though Warriors fans are passionate, I expect a good turnout by our fans tonight…

by MadProphet on Jan 8, 2010 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I live in the Bay Area too and used to love it when we could call Oracle “Arco West” because of all the Kings fans..hope that starts happening again!

by big_beast on Jan 8, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Excellent

Lots of cheering – Don’t be a L*ker fan though!

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Jan 8, 2010 5:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Should be entertaining

The Warriors are playing well of late, and both teams play hard – albeit with little defense involved.

"When you look at him, you say: 'Holy God.'" - Pete Carril on Tyreke Evans

by otis29 on Jan 8, 2010 3:28 PM PST reply actions  

crushing, disgusting, bitter

Still nauseous from new year’s day, I say we get a bloody W tonight. Tired of this sh**. And if we don’t beat LA at least once this year, I swear to god I’m going to punch one of these laughably phony, fair-weather smiley-ass douchebags down here in the ear in the name of environmentalism. GO KINGS!

by doriank on Jan 8, 2010 4:46 PM PST reply actions  

Lets Go Kings baby!

Lets get our 15th Win of the season!

Natural Go Getta!

by slamson on Jan 8, 2010 5:21 PM PST reply actions  

Very winnable game

Take care of the ball,slow it down just a little and attack their defensive weakness= pretty much the whole team.Randolph can block shots and might be a good defender someday,they have no one who can defend Tyreke or Beno. Go Kings

by southern oregon on Jan 8, 2010 5:37 PM PST reply actions  

GO KINGS!

Moderate defense, take care of the ball and execute on offense should do it!

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Jan 8, 2010 5:42 PM PST reply actions  

Let's Go Warriors!

I’ll see some of you at the game.

(My girlfriend might make me go to the Kings vs Magic game although it’s because she’s from Florida. Sorry guys. I’ll be rooting for both teams then somehow.)

by GoldenStateGuerrero on Jan 8, 2010 5:51 PM PST reply actions  

*yawn*

I’ll be at the game. Cheering on my team in person.

by GoldenStateGuerrero on Jan 8, 2010 6:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Grrrrowwlllll

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Jan 8, 2010 6:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Looks like Ingram was right after all.

What's the past tense for "scam?" Is it "scrumped?"

by swoosh91 on Jan 8, 2010 6:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Let's go Kings!

There can only be one Noce!

by NoceOne on Jan 8, 2010 6:09 PM PST reply actions  

LINK

Does anybody know of a link for this one tonight??? Im stuck at work

Put that in your juice box and suck it

by ianeriley on Jan 8, 2010 6:12 PM PST reply actions  

i know this is early, but does anyone know the starting lineups

"Oh boy! If you don't like that you don't like Kings basketball"-Peaches

by AkaP on Jan 8, 2010 6:17 PM PST reply actions  

Hollinger Today on Insider

Hollinger (aka Mr. Tyreke is NaPG) thinks NO-SAC are natural trade partners b/c we can help them get under the tax threshold – aren’t we nice? Apparently, Beno and 31 yr old 41% shooter SG Devin Brown have about equal trade value, and we may as well give up a few million of cap space because we are not getting Lebron anyway, so we don’t really need it.

Getting a #1 from NO would not be bad, mid 1st round pick (15-20), most likely. Other than that…meh.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insider/columns/story?columnist=hollinger_john&page=PERDiem-100108

New Orleans Hornets, $3.33 million over

The Hornets may make the playoffs despite their slow start, but that doesn’t change their terrible economics. The Hornets aren’t making much bank and are unlikely to sign off on what amounts to $10 million in expenses ($3 million in salary, $3 million in luxury tax, $4 million in foregone distributions) just to give themselves a 50-50 chance of making the playoffs as L.A.’s Round 1 punching bag.

New Orleans has added incentive because the Hornets already are over next year’s projected luxury-tax line by several million dollars. (Orlando, the Lakers, Denver and Dallas are the only other four teams that are certain to be over, though several other clubs dance perilously close to the line.) Because of this, some wonder if the Hornets will be forced to deal David West, but I doubt it will come to that.

As luck would have it, the Sacramento Kings are $4.15 million under the cap at the moment, making them an obvious trade partner. The two sides could set some kind of record for dead money included in a deal, actually, if the Kings swapped Kenny Thomas and Andres Nocioni to the Hornets for Darius Songaila, James Posey, Morris Peterson and Hilton Armstrong.

Such a deal would likely cost the Hornets cash and a first-rounder, too, since the Kings would be eating into their potential 2010 cap space. In fact, the Kings might turn the screws and demand that promising point guard Darren Collison be part of the swap. Nonetheless, that might be worth it for New Orleans since it would get them under next year’s tax as well as this year’s — much as it made sense for Utah to deal Maynor recently.

Other variations on this deal also work. For instance, replace Nocioni with Beno Udrih and Armstrong with Devin Brown and the Hornets save just as much this year, albeit less next year. Subtracting Thomas and Posey from the deal also works. In all of these scenarios, incidentally, the four-for-two or three-for-one nature of the deal would require Sacramento to cut Sean May. But I presume they’d get over it quickly.

The point is that the Hornets have an obvious incentive to rent the Kings’ cap space, and the Kings could use some of what the Hornets have to offer (cash, a pick, potential relief from the 2011-12 money owed to either Nocioni or Udrih). It cuts into Sacramento’s cap room for next summer by about $3 million (depending on the exact parameters), but considering that draft picks normally cost $3 million, they’d get cash and a couple of useful players out of it. And since they weren’t going to be in the LeBron sweepstakes anyway, it works out nicely on their end, too.

by bench_blob on Jan 8, 2010 7:11 PM PST reply actions  

I wouldn't have a problem taking on a couple of contracts that run into next season

if it meant getting Collison and/or their pick. I’d rather pass on the contracts that run beyond next season(namely James Posey).

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Jan 8, 2010 7:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Anyone else has direct tv?

apparently there’s no HD feed for Sac, only for the warriors feed, which is blocked out :(

by Imminentfailure on Jan 8, 2010 7:34 PM PST reply actions  

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