Post-Game Thread: Kings at Warriors
by Tom Ziller on Jan 8, 2010 9:45 PM PST
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The Kings scored 1 point in the last 6 minutes of the game
’nough said.
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
Well
Until the gift with 6 seconds left
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on Jan 8, 2010 10:03 PM PST up reply actions
We deserved that loss.
Their play in the 4th was pathetic.
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
Of all the recent games
this one hurts the most in my eyes
The Kings needed a point guard in the 4th Q
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 8, 2010 10:05 PM PST reply actions
Sergio?
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Jan 8, 2010 10:06 PM PST up reply actions
GS was smothering Evans...
I know that our shooters were missing open 3 pointers, but when the defense is focusing so much on one player, you have to have another in the game who can handle and move the ball. Beno was ineffective and Rodriguez could have easily penetrated and at least created some fouls for cutting players.
This is the one annoying trait that I see with Westphal – he goes with his gut so much that at times, the Kings look really disjointed. Like the entire 4th quarter tonight…
"Granted, this is not a great situation, but when all you have is lemons, you add some vodka to dull the pain..."
Damn straight!
Where in the hell was Rodriguez in the 4th???
"Granted, this is not a great situation, but when all you have is lemons, you add some vodka to dull the pain..."
They needed points in the 4th Q
and ’Reke was getting plenty of them up till then
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Jan 8, 2010 10:07 PM PST up reply actions
again, I really don't think it was the Pg's fault
Whether it was Beno or Evans, both had to overdribble and seemed to be looking for their teammates to be running a play. The players didn’t run the play right and it made the PG look bad. If it was just Evans doing it, it would be one thing, but when Beno does the same thing, I’m thinking it isn’t the Pg’s fault. The team needs to run the plays correctly and space the floor.
Sorry
Evans played 1 on 5 the whole 4th quarter. Let’s call a spade a spade.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 8, 2010 10:12 PM PST up reply actions
At least he looked to pass.
Unlike Beno. Who would just hold the ball for most of the shot clock.
One thing I do notice...
When the game gets tight, the Kings stink at setting picks. Both Thompson and Hawes try to roll too soon, thereby negating the effectiveness of the pick for both themselves and the point guard trying to work off of the screen. To your point, the PG needs to make them hold their spot until he has passed, but the bigs are looking for the ball entirely too quickly…
"Granted, this is not a great situation, but when all you have is lemons, you add some vodka to dull the pain..."
i was yelling my ass off
cus they werefucking up so bad in the 4th!!!!!!!!aghghghgh
Tyreke is young.
But those two behind the back dribbles were piss poor basketball.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Pretty sure our boys thought the game ends after the 3rd Q
They were playing to win up till then
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Jan 8, 2010 10:05 PM PST reply actions
when Turiaf is the only warriors big
why can’t the kings play JT and Spencer and actually try to get some sort of inside game going? I can only recall about 3 post feeds to one of our bigs for the entire game!!
especially after Spence had just played some awesome minutes!
by thisismellow on Jan 8, 2010 10:06 PM PST up reply actions
No kidding
5-8 shooting in 15 minutes … wtf Westphal
Check score on iPhone...
Delete the game from DVR, move on with life! I have learned not to watch games in real time any more, might as well hit yourself in the head with a board at 10:00PM every evening…
Ouch, sounds like me last year
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Jan 8, 2010 10:07 PM PST up reply actions
This only works for road games though...
I have season tickets… Seemed like a good idea at the time. Even the home games have been pretty shitty lately…
by OrangeLazarus on Jan 8, 2010 10:10 PM PST up reply actions
I am really upset.
The Warriors are a bad team and the worst defensive team in the league and we went without scoring forever. I think I never want to see Tyreke iso in a close game again. I am pissed about this loss there needs to be real change made with the way we play in close games I expect better of this team.
What? Talk about a overreaction
You don’t want Tyreke in a close game again? I think you expect too much. This team needs to learn how to close games and the only way to do so is to go through close games. Tyreke will make mistakes, but he will be in at the end of games because he is the star of this team and the experience only benefits him and the rest of the team. So get used to it.
I do not want a Tyreke ISO in a close game again.
IT does not work. I want Tyreke to play, but watching him dribble until the shot clock winds down, get forced to go left and then turn the ball over is getting old. I would like to see a play or a screen or a pass once in a while.
This is worse than last year.
I got to quit expecting a win.
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
The sad thing?
We actually won in Oakland last year…
by OrangeLazarus on Jan 8, 2010 10:07 PM PST up reply actions
We have to keep the ball out of Reke's had s in close ball-games
let beno or sergio handle the ball
KINGS WILL BE 09-10 CHAMPIONS
Well if this guy is going to be the superstar that everyone here expects him to
Then he better have the ball in his hands in close ball games.
Exactly...
I don’t see anyone complaining about the Milwaukee game…
by OrangeLazarus on Jan 8, 2010 10:11 PM PST up reply actions
Or Martin
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Jan 8, 2010 10:09 PM PST up reply actions
agreed
it’s happening every game. you can’t believe its the players not running the plays. if it is surely they get pulled. it is not working in the 4th…so make some sort of adaptation
by thisismellow on Jan 8, 2010 10:10 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I think so. He seems to want 'Reke to just figure-out how to win with the ball in his hands, and he'll keep giving it to him until he does
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Jan 8, 2010 10:10 PM PST up reply actions
reke is not lebron yet
even Kobe gets his within the offense down the stretch
by thisismellow on Jan 8, 2010 10:11 PM PST up reply actions
his nerves get to him late in ball-games
how may times do you see him drive and fall down
KINGS WILL BE 09-10 CHAMPIONS
i think that occurs because the opposition know exactly what is happening
very predictable
by thisismellow on Jan 8, 2010 10:11 PM PST up reply actions
Exactly
Until he can knock down a jump shot teams are just going to continue to pack the lane down the stretch.
i'm talking more about the play...not reke
that is his game, so use it to your advantage, but dont just rely on it for a majority of the 4th every game
by thisismellow on Jan 8, 2010 10:14 PM PST up reply actions
yeah, because
Beno was soooo much more effective.
not.
by TheFifthMookie on Jan 8, 2010 10:18 PM PST up reply actions
Time to enjoy the descent 20000 leagues under the sea
On the bottom of the Pacific.
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JT looked like a deer in the headlights
and that’s when there were 49 seconds left and we were just down by 1.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 8, 2010 10:09 PM PST reply actions
Seriously
Brockman should have gotten JT’s minutes down the stretch.
"When you look at him, you say: 'Holy God.'" - Pete Carril on Tyreke Evans
to be honest
i’d prefer to see SPence and JT finish games. Sure they have some bad moments, but they are crafty and are an offensive threat….which is definitely needed
by thisismellow on Jan 8, 2010 10:13 PM PST up reply actions
In general, yes...
but tonight, JT looked like he had to take a mean leak in the 4th quarter. He was jumping all over the place for no good reason, couldn’t wait to roll to the basket before setting a solid pick, and couldn’t hold onto the damn ball. Brockman was effective early, and sitting late. ???
"Granted, this is not a great situation, but when all you have is lemons, you add some vodka to dull the pain..."
but i dont agree with not playing guys
just because they have struggled in that game. a good player can and often will make the big play for you down the stretch
by thisismellow on Jan 8, 2010 10:32 PM PST up reply actions
That's the tough part...
At what point to you sit the player for someone else. As I said, in general, I agree that JT in particular needs to be in during crunch time. Tonight though, he was so rough I thought PW should have either gone with Spence or Brock…
"Granted, this is not a great situation, but when all you have is lemons, you add some vodka to dull the pain..."
Brock seemed confused on defense though
He didn’t seem to understand when to switch on picks, and Randolph left him standing there on that back door cut. I didn’t think he seemed like himself tonite.
Brockman let one guy get by him (Curry?)
Then on another play he had to pick between Curry, who was open for a three, and Biedrins, and there was some confusion between him and JT as to who had Biedrins. I don’t recall the Randolph play you’re talking about. Bottom line, though, they had a double digit lead when he was in there and things were in control. After he stopped seeing the floor, not so much.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 9, 2010 2:15 AM PST up reply actions
jt has horrendous basketball instincts for being such a smart guy (which you can tell he is) dumb passes, bad fouls, bricked layups at all the wrong times… he’s in his own head. the guy has a future but right now he is KILLING us
by lchristmas on Jan 8, 2010 10:29 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I hope PW doesn't give us that
“You’re going to see a lot of that in his career” speech tonight.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 8, 2010 10:10 PM PST reply actions
I would like to see PW own-up a bit after this one
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Jan 8, 2010 10:12 PM PST up reply actions
Seriously
Casspi, JT and Noce were all playing badly and he flat out refused to yank them.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
+1000
Hawes and Rodriguez would have been better options. I didn’t mind Omri because he was only taking the shots that were obvious and not trying to force anything. Not the case with Noc and JT…
"Granted, this is not a great situation, but when all you have is lemons, you add some vodka to dull the pain..."
OMri got out of his game
by forcing his shots in the first half, so he didn;t have any mulligans to fall back on.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 8, 2010 10:24 PM PST up reply actions
Very true...
He was off from the beginning. Bad time for him to have his worst game in about 2 months…
"Granted, this is not a great situation, but when all you have is lemons, you add some vodka to dull the pain..."
Really
I think Doratio Kane could have helped the Kings tonight,
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
I was thinking the same thing...
A few jumpers, couple of rebounds, couple of assists is about all it would have taken from Donte. His kind of game too – uptempo…
"Granted, this is not a great situation, but when all you have is lemons, you add some vodka to dull the pain..."
This is getting ridiculous
Kmart needs to hurry back..
Westphal proving fallable?
1 point in the last six minutes is a damning statement. I’m not in any way saying we should do anything other than to tell him: Hey, Paul, please don’t do that again. Thanks.
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
by iashwash on Jan 8, 2010 10:13 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, with
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Jan 8, 2010 10:14 PM PST up reply actions
The thing is, PW seemed to be coaching us to victory for at least half the game
The Dubs looked overmatched all around
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Jan 8, 2010 10:14 PM PST up reply actions
I think this season has just not gone at all how PW expected it to (in a good way)
his best player has been basically hurt all year, and now he has this budding superstar who plays a style like pretty much no other player in the league. I really like PW and I think he’s been great with saying all the right things and such, but now he needs to really do his homework and figure out how to win some of these games, because we’re a much better team than anyone thought and we should be winning more, injuries or not.
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Jan 8, 2010 10:20 PM PST up reply actions
???
The Kings are not a better team than was thought. JT’s development has been along the lines of what was expected, Hawes has regressed, Tyreke is transcendent and Beno has upped the ante, but that’s negated by KMart and Garcias loss. Casspi is proving himself to be a rookie – a very good rookie, but one nonetheless. And Brockman is our only effective back-up big, and I don’t think many teams in the league would want him as their back-up big.
This team has alot of holes in the roster, especially tonight. They were doing real well, I thought, up till the last quarter. Can’t go hard on Westphal or any specific player for the recent loss streak.
I will fight anyone who dares insist Westphal hasn’t done the best job possible this season, and I say that as someone who didn’t care for Paul when he was signed.
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by iashwash on Jan 8, 2010 10:25 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Westphal hasn’t done the best job possible this season
No doubt he’s done a helluva job, but the glow is starting to fade a bit with the return to reality. Now he’s becoming a victim of his own success and expectations.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 8, 2010 10:32 PM PST up reply actions
dont mean to argue with ya iash
but, the 4th quarter play has to start to fall on PW. when the entire offense is our guys looking for pick and rolls (and not succeeding most games), then surely an adjustment has to be made. so far i have not seen adjustments….just the same old run the clock down and look for a bail out shot
by thisismellow on Jan 8, 2010 10:34 PM PST up reply actions
Told him to take a seat
Because he apparently didn’t want someone who was shooting well in the game.
We need to play to win
and not play to not lose. Bottom line. The Warriors kept playing, while we rolled up the sidewalks.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 8, 2010 10:15 PM PST reply actions
Yeah, it's about time to work a couple more "we need some damn points" plays into our repetoire
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Jan 8, 2010 10:16 PM PST up reply actions
or maybe they could just swing the ball every now and then
sorry i’m over it today. feel like i’ve wasted another afternoon of sunshine over here!
by thisismellow on Jan 8, 2010 10:17 PM PST up reply actions
It's a recurring issue
I know this is a learning experience for these young guys. I just wish they would start actually…you know…learning.
"When you look at him, you say: 'Holy God.'" - Pete Carril on Tyreke Evans
by otis29 on Jan 8, 2010 10:17 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Man...
I am tired of seeing Noc jack up shot after shot when he doesn’t have it going. If he isn’t scoring, he really hurts this team because regardless of whether he is hitting, he sure as hell isn’t going to stop shooting…
"Granted, this is not a great situation, but when all you have is lemons, you add some vodka to dull the pain..."
you're right
I’ve seen coach yank Donte or Spence after missing one shot at the start of games. Yet Noc gets to keep firing away.
KINGS WILL BE 09-10 CHAMPIONS
Might be more than just a coach's insistence.
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
Actually
I am tired of Noc not playing in crunch time and us losing another game.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 8, 2010 10:33 PM PST up reply actions
Amen
"Granted, this is not a great situation, but when all you have is lemons, you add some vodka to dull the pain..."
Hold on...
you want Noc playing in crunch time? Why?
"Granted, this is not a great situation, but when all you have is lemons, you add some vodka to dull the pain..."
Veteran who can hit big shots in crunch time
Or at least isn’t scared shitless.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 8, 2010 10:37 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, but...
He sure wasn’t hitting tonight, and while you may have him knock down a shot or two, he stops the ball from moving altogether. Although in the 4th tonight, the only place the ball was moving was into the Warriors hands…
"Granted, this is not a great situation, but when all you have is lemons, you add some vodka to dull the pain..."
At least he would get a shot off :)
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 8, 2010 10:42 PM PST up reply actions
No kidding...
"Granted, this is not a great situation, but when all you have is lemons, you add some vodka to dull the pain..."
Taking an open shot 18secs into the shot clock,
with 4 Warriors under the basket and no Kings, isn’t smart basketball, when your 0 for 6.
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I never thought he was scared of taking his shot in crunch time last year
But if anything, he seemed too eager to take his shot and rushed it a lot – I had very little confidence in him making anything in a close game.
"When you look at him, you say: 'Holy God.'" - Pete Carril on Tyreke Evans
Don't worry, Kmarts coming back soon
we can let him hold the ball late, and then pick up a foul.
KINGS WILL BE 09-10 CHAMPIONS
wasnt the complaint last year that...
kmart isnt the player u want having the ball late in crunch time?
Tyreke Evans for R.O.Y!
by sac-townz finest on Jan 9, 2010 1:08 AM PST up reply actions
Westphal
“We didn’t run our offense the whole 4th quarter.”
That kind of kills the “Tyreke is supposed to iso becuase Westphal told him to” theory
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 8, 2010 10:23 PM PST reply actions
Its what it looked like to me
The players looked confused. The pg was trying to direct them to where they were supposed to go, but the guys looked like they didn’t know what to do. The spacing was horrible and led to some TO’s. I’m thinking the PG is standing there waiting for a certain player to go to his spot and all of a sudden, its 8 seconds left on the shot clock.
He was going 1 on 5 with his head down
It helps to look at a teammate if you want to direct him.
Face it. Tyreke has spoiled us. But he’s a rookie and has some limitations to his game, and the word is getting around.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 8, 2010 10:36 PM PST up reply actions
GS...
was more or less playing a box and 1 with Evans. As soon as he drove, everyone clogged the lane. Once he was unwilling/unable to pass, the turnovers came. He had 6 tonight, at least 2 or 3 of which were in the 4th…
"Granted, this is not a great situation, but when all you have is lemons, you add some vodka to dull the pain..."
You said it right, when Tyreke gets nervous, his head goes down.
On that double behind the back mess there were two players wide open.
so why is he not pulling guys out
and ripping into them. that is his job and his right to do so. he is letting it happen
by thisismellow on Jan 8, 2010 10:36 PM PST up reply actions
By he do you mean Westphal?
Because if you are, then I think that is the wrong approach to take with a young team. You can only yell so much until you start losing guys. Right now the coach has the entire team’s respect and continuing to rip into them wouldn’t do much. Westphal is here to teach, and yelling and screaming may look good, but it doesn’t work for most coaches not named Popovich and Sloan. Look at a guy like P.J. Carlesimo with the Sonics/Thunder. He got fired after a year because he lost the team with his coaching style.
i like tyreke
I love tyreke. but how many times has he come 2 or 3 on 1 and ball faked and shot? I don’t think he’s doing it because he’s selfish — I think he’s doing it bc his whole bb life that has been the best option to score… it is time for him to realize he has nba players on the wings and to pass the goddamn ball
beno was pathetic in the 4th as well. our future is bright and I am trying to remain optimistic but this is frustrating as shit
by lchristmas on Jan 8, 2010 10:36 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Well said
and sobering.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 8, 2010 10:43 PM PST up reply actions
These last 10 games
sure do feel like last year. Terrible loss just awful. Losing to good teams are one thing but philly & GS is just downright pitiful. Worse thing yet that douchebag from hoopsworld was right. I think it was better when PW trusted no one on this team. Go back to tight leashes please.
by allbenji's on Jan 8, 2010 10:26 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Im not going to watch tomorrows game
losing is tough, and I didn’t even play.
KINGS WILL BE 09-10 CHAMPIONS
Tyreke Evans
Gives the Kings a chance to win spectacularly as much as he gives them a chance to lose. He needs to get a better jumpshot and he’ll be deadly.
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i wonder how the players are feeling after all these games.
even im emotionally drained =/
Kevin Martin
for all the trade him crap people had after the injury I think people can see why we need him. He is a vet that can flat out score which is what the team needs right now.
We need teamwork
Not just a different guy to go 1 on 5.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 8, 2010 10:44 PM PST up reply actions
Yep...
Good screens, patience and ball/player movement. It will come…
"Granted, this is not a great situation, but when all you have is lemons, you add some vodka to dull the pain..."
It will come
But you cant tell me that at the end of the last couple games it wouldnt hurt to have someone who can score.
Truth be told Hilton
It would have been nice to run that offense with purpose. But those are mistakes young teams make.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
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and this is a young team
I dont disagree that these things happen. It is hard to lose scope that last year the games lost were not even close. it is the hardest process to be a fan in because each game gives hope for a win but the team is still learning how to. Neither you or myself will say this is a playoff team but we both hope for a win each time. i will say this is the process a team like this goes through when rebuilding.
by Hilton on Jan 8, 2010 11:06 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Sums up the emotions I pretty much feel
Well said and Rec’d.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Don't let the door hit you on your ass on the way out.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
See ya
Enjoy the winter olympics…
"Granted, this is not a great situation, but when all you have is lemons, you add some vodka to dull the pain..."
Like your avatar Mcamp.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Thanks...
it’s actually the way I feel after watching that one…
"Granted, this is not a great situation, but when all you have is lemons, you add some vodka to dull the pain..."
I know how you feel
But there’s a game tomorrow. Just like the players get a quick turnaround, so do fans.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Think you're clever?
You’re not. We know how good Monta Ellis was. Go back to GSoM.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
One of the funnier Monta Ellis replies I've heard.
Well done B_B.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
It's not Monta's fault he is not Eric Maynor you know.
You must hold that into account.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Yeah, he only had 39
and made that kick out to Morrow for the key 3. And got a ton of steals. And led his team to a victory. And didn’t play scared.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 9, 2010 2:21 AM PST up reply actions
If K-Mart plays tonight
we win by 20. Could have used Donte tonight too, with Noc launching misguided missles all night and JT choking away the game with one bone head play after another.
I say we trade JT while his value is somewhat high (in package deal for Bosh or AK-47, please). If not now, then before even considering re-upping for a big money deal. He commits so many dumb fouls. He leads the league this year after leading the league last year. The writing is on the wall with this guy. He doesn’t learn from his mistakes. He has average to below average shooting touch, no matter what JR wants to say. He misses bunnies and wide open 10 footers, and runs over defenders standing right in front of him, then throws up his hands in disbelief. If Tim Duncan has the highest BB IQ among PFs, JT has to be have the lowest.
JT is 23 years old and yet he acts so immature. I don’t think I can recall a player in Kings history so emotionally imbalanced as this guy. (Not off the court, mind you, when the ball is in the air.) Tyreke is 3 years younger yet acts light years more poised. Imagine what would happen in a playoff game when the pressure is on. JT would crumble.
I wonder if playing at a small school like Rider gave the guy an inferiority complex? Seems that way. Regardless, I have had enough of JT. It is easy to say give the guy a break, he is young, his second year, yada, yada, yada,…. but I am convinced if we are going to be an elite team it will not be with him as our starting ‘4’. No way. I have more faith in Spencer.
FOULS:
PLAYER NAME, TEAM NAME GP MPG PF PFPG
1. Jason Thompson , SAC 34 35.3 134 (1) 3.9 (1)
K-Mart wasn't here tonight
Woulda coulda shoulda’s are nice, but do little.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
I am a big K-mart fan but still
But pookey is right, you cant change it. 20 would still be a stretch with him but it wouldnt hurt. He wont be there tomorrow but I still hope for a win.
He was a $60-million man yesterday morning :)
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 9, 2010 2:23 AM PST up reply actions
Were you at Roaracle?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
no, picked up my lady at the airport, went to dinner and listened to the game
turned on 1140 when the Kings were up by 17 and it was a long ride home…
I have recieved some texts from my Dubs bud and he was (and is) nice – saying the Kings look like a rookie team.
by betweentheeyes on Jan 8, 2010 11:00 PM PST up reply actions
No arguing that.
Hope your dinner went well.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
thanks
ever have that feeling that by turning on the game you caused the team to lose? That was me tonight.
Ate at Ella’s – at least the meal was satisfying. This game was a buzz killer – hope they can regroup at ARCO tomorrow.
by betweentheeyes on Jan 8, 2010 11:04 PM PST up reply actions
Total buzz kill in a lot of ways
I’m still numb (I think) from shock as to how they lost. It’s like they’ve personally re-invented the losing down the stretch rulebook to personally torture every Kings fan in the universe. I know this isn’t the case, but sometimes I wonder.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
unpopular to say - but some of the air has been let out of the balloon
and the Kings are coming back to Earth a bit more in line with where we expect them to be, record-wise.
All things considered – the individuals are excelling still, but the inconsistency of team play is leading to the loses. In the most positive of lights, they are good loses for the most part. Still don’t see any quit. As you know, the season is a marathon and this is the uphill part of the run. Some stumbles, some falls, but still hanging tough.
As long as the team shows grit it is up to us fans to stay stalwart and keep our chins up with them.
by betweentheeyes on Jan 8, 2010 11:12 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Well, we are well scouted now as well
And teams are nearly as surpised by Reke, Beno, Casspi anymore.
The better talent is really what matters here IMO
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
we'll just have to wait and see
every team goes through slumps.. just look at the Magic. Anyways, I’m still waiting on KMart to get back — I think people forget how good he is and valuable to this team.
by Pollard4LIfe on Jan 9, 2010 12:25 AM PST up reply actions
Checking my phone at work made the closing shift so much worse.
What an Epic Fail of a Night. If we don’t beat Denver tomorrow, that is going to be very bad for team morale.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement and Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order.
It was bound to happen at some point though Aykis
This team was bound to hit a lull. This month is brutal. It was always likely to be such no matter how much we wish to believe it wouldn’t be.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
The crappy part is that we're hitting the lull during the "easy" part of this month's schedule
Father of the "Natt this!" movement and Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order.
I know you have easy quoted
But we both know that no NBA team is THAT easy to beat.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Kind of amazing how fast expectations got out ahead of where the team actually is
Everything’s on the right track, but young teams do dumb things and lose close games. We’re all going to need to be patient.
And frankly, losing isn’t the worst thing in the world right now. Moral victories are fine and gut-check/this-is-what-happens-when-you-don’t-move-the-ball-in-the-4th-quarter losses are fine. The Kings’ two best players right now are rookies!
One more high draft pick and a couple of trades and THEN we can start thinking playoffs. For now let’s just enjoy the ride. It’s going to get a little tiresome in here if everyone starts committing verbal suicide every time there’s a tough loss.
by nbrans on Jan 8, 2010 11:14 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Ready for tiresome?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
You ready for consistent verbal suicide?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
I guess I'm more like the guy standing on the sidewalk shouting
Don’t do it. Don’t do it!! YOU HAVE SO MUCH TO LIVE FOR.
I'm cool with playing to our abilities,
its when we make consistently dumb mistakes down the stretch in lots of games and playing beneath our abilities that bothers me.
The rookie argument can’t always be the excuse. These guys have skills and have been playing ball for like 15-20 years. 10 turnovers in a quarter for a rookie team sucks.
Westphall needs to lose his temper a bit with these guys. The soft we will continue to work on it attitude doesn’t always work.
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
by nothingbutnet on Jan 8, 2010 11:29 PM PST up reply actions
He doesn't have to beat them up
These guys were practically crying! They get it. They’re not happy with it. They’re trying hard. You yell when the effort is not there, not when they’re trying hard and just not quite there yet.
This.
Paul Westphal has only so many buttons to push. Not pushing them to win a game, that in the grand scheme of things, that means little in the overall outlook is okay with me. Besides, if Tyreke Evans can’t push this team to victory, there is no way in hell Paul Westphal will coach them to more victories. This is a players league, and the Kings best player is Tyreke Evans.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
I guess I'm missing your point,
Reke played fine he just didn’t get the support from his teammates.
I think Wesphall was upset with his team for the same reasons. I don’t believe they followed his directions.
As much is its a players league, great players don’t win championships. Great teams do.
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
by nothingbutnet on Jan 8, 2010 11:51 PM PST up reply actions
Core of that great team is a great player
So, gotta disagree with that. It takes great talent to work with the coaching staff, the right mix to support your great talents, and for it to all work all with not getting injuries at the right time. Winning a title is so difficult. Winning a NBA championship is not for the birds this is for sure.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Actually, it's usually two and a
hell of a supporting cast.
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
by nothingbutnet on Jan 8, 2010 11:59 PM PST up reply actions
I don't want them to feel bad,
I want them to wake up and play to the level they are capable of.
Reke dribbles down court and everyone waits for him to drive to the hoop.
If the entire opposing team is clogging the lane, these guys need to get open so he can pass the ball.
Ball movement essentially stopped the last 6 minutes of the game. And correct me if I’m wrong these weren’t the Celtics, they’re the freakin Warriors.
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
by nothingbutnet on Jan 8, 2010 11:46 PM PST up reply actions
If you're expecting perfection every night
You’re expecting too much.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
If you're expecting them to play at the level they are capable of every night
You’re expecting too much.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
If you're expecting a poor defense to stop Monta Ellis
You’re expecting too much.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
I'm expecting them to score at least a few points
In the last 6 minutes against arguably the worst defense in the league. Otherwise, I agree with what you’re saying.
"When you look at him, you say: 'Holy God.'" - Pete Carril on Tyreke Evans
I agree with that
Which is why I didn’t say it. LOL
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Wow,
I’m not sure we were anywhere close to perfection. Monta Elis didn’t beat us tonight, we beat ourselves.
And yes I expect better than we played tonight. I hope Westphall and the Maloofs do to.
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
by nothingbutnet on Jan 8, 2010 11:54 PM PST up reply actions
It's to be expected in the game and post-game threads
The morning after always brings perspective.
However, I defy a fan of any team to not get frustrated watching so many close losses. If you aren’t somewhat irrational afterwards, I have to wonder how big a fan you really are (not you nbrans, just in general).
"When you look at him, you say: 'Holy God.'" - Pete Carril on Tyreke Evans
Teams have figured out out to play Reke.
If we don’t have our jumpers going, were done for.
I think I would have run small in the 4th and put in all of our shooters. I’m surprised we didin’t feed it more to Udoka as he had a hot hand.
Sergio I think could have really helped late in the 4th.
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
Whose next? Denver? You watch we will play hard against them….Greene should be back, which will help.
Greens out for tomorrow's game according to Peaches
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
by nothingbutnet on Jan 8, 2010 11:21 PM PST up reply actions
Kevin martins return
will help take alot of that pressure off tyreke. January 12th ppl we get the news in a few days!!!
Tommy Kelly's ass won us that game against Denver!
I hope is game is on
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
by nothingbutnet on Jan 8, 2010 11:32 PM PST up reply actions
It looked liked Evans was tired tonight
Even with the Warriors playing zone, Tyreke seemed to settle for jumpers a little more than usual.
Does this recent play stimulate possible trades,
or does it stiphen it? With fan attendance up and excitement growing in the city, do the Maloofs get impatient or wait until the next draft?
Time will tell. About 4 weeks…
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
Losses like this are tough
but let’s take it in stride, guys. It’s no secret that this team has a long way to go. The team has been playing a little bit over their heads but there are some pretty big holes remaining to fill.
On the other hand, we had one of the better drafts in recent NBA memory. Tyreke is going to be one of the dozen best players in the league very soon, and Casspi is a revelation. Two of our best players have barely been on the court all season, we’ve got a really competent head coach, a fat expiring contract in K-9, and if it turns out we do have to go back into the lottery again, well, it’ll be the last time in a long time.
It wasn’t pretty out there tonight, but things are looking up.
"When the going gets Weird, the Weird turn professional."
(Hunter Thompson)
My "half glass is full attitude" will look to you for support
as these recent games have killed me. I just need a win once in a while.
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
by nothingbutnet on Jan 9, 2010 12:28 AM PST up reply actions
I kept trying to fill my glass half full, but there was a hole in the bottom of my glass.
I think the Kings have the same problem. They have a hole at the 2 and the front court. Martin fixes one, and learning how to set up easy shots for our bigs would fill the other.
There’s only two ways to put points on the scoreboard when your shooters go cold, get to the free throw line and set up your bigs for high percentage shots under the basket. We didn’t do either last night.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
And
The Trailblazers beat the Lakers tonite, with Juwan Howard playing center for 35 minutes. I going to go throw up now.
Maddening
I was at Oracle & couldn’t believe my eyes.
That 4th quarter was infuriating. The Kings looked confused on offense & genuinely terrified under the bright lights.
I can’t believe Gstate came back & won…
I was also at Oracle.
And I’ll be there again in February to watch the Kings make up for that fourth quarter collapse.
"El once, chico. Eleven."
Count me in...
I’ll be there too, man.
And when Gstate visits Arco soon we all need to rock the house & make it LOUD.
Why did Tyreke
seem so ‘elsewhere’ in the 4th quarter. He looked like he had some sort of issue and wasn’t going to do anything if he didn’t have the ball. Same thing on the defensive end, and he wasn’t going to the boards at all. When he hit that three, he seemed to perk up some, and you could see him turn the effort up on the following defensive possession. I wonder if he got chewed out, or who knows…
The other pivotal moment was the offensive foul on JT with about a minute to go. Turiaf clearly had one foot inside the circle, and JT made that shot. Big point swing to have a potential 3 pt. play taken off the board.
Anyone else wonder
If Brockman should have gotten more run? I thought JT could have used a break in the fourth, and Brockman played well in his limited minutes in the first half.
"When you look at him, you say: 'Holy God.'" - Pete Carril on Tyreke Evans
JT didn't play well period.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
JT sat out the first 6:13 of the fourth.
Brockman might have gotten a couple of rebounds, but the Kings were already winning that battle +9 on the offensive boards, and Brockman’s offense offers little compared to JT & Spencer. If anything, PW could have left Spencer in to finish the 4th. He had a couple of clutch baskets, and 2 assists on Tyrekes 2 three point shots. And, the one thing Spencer brings better than any of the other bigs, is his passing and initiating the offense from the high post. And, our guards didn’t seemed to be getting the offense going.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
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