Kings 116, Golden State 97: Thanks Be To Kahn
Thank you David Kahn, you wonderful, wonderful man, for passing on DeMarcus Cousins and letting him fall to us. I don't even care if he wins Rookie of the Year, I'm just glad that he's on this team, MY team. Before I continue with my DeMarcus man-crush, let's discuss this game a bit.
The Kings started off on a 8-2 run, with Tyreke swishing his first couple jumpers (more on that later). The offense looked a LOT better than it did in either the Phoenix or Los Angeles games, with the team spacing the floor and moving the ball well. It was a night and day difference in terms of quality. The defense was the same problem though, with Monta Ellis (who was an absolute stud out there) carving the Kings up whenever he wanted, and the Kings again having big problems denying penetration. As the first quarter wore on, the team became increasingly more sloppy on offense, and to give the Warriors credit, they were extremely active on defense, especially around lazy dribbles and passes. The passing lanes are not safe against the Warriors. I have a feeling they'll lead the league in steals this year. As such, the Warriors caught up to the Kings and took the lead going into the 2nd.
The 2nd quarter was a back and forth affair. It was obvious fairly quickly that DeMarcus was too much for Dan Gadzuric, and the Warriors had to resort to double teaming him. Both teams had a bit of a cold streak in this quarter compared to the first, but while the Kings offense struggled a bit, the defense was much improved. Turnovers were a big problem on offense.
The 2nd half was where the Kings finally pulled away (mainly the 4th quarter), and it saw our first "complaining to the refs" technical of the preseason, given to Jason Thompson. There were again too many turnovers for the Kings, but they did a decent job on defense themselves, and for the first time this preseason, the Kings weren't fouling as much unnecessarily, and they got to the line more. Everyone was hustling towards loose balls, and the turnovers cut down as the night wore on. All in all, the Kings played a decent game, and it likely would have been a lot closer if the Warriors had played Ellis and Curry more, but I think the Kings would have still won, given that Golden State gave most of its minutes to main rotation guys. The team also did a great job outrebounding the Warriors, and protecting the basket.
After the jump, my player evaluations and video from Kingsflix. If you're interested, I'll have a Warriors-centric recap up on Pick and Scroll later today.
Tyreke Evans: This is a classic case where numbers don't tell the whole story. Looking at the box score, Reke put up some impressive numbers (other than the 5 turnovers) in only 24 minutes of play, and it didn't even look like he was trying that hard. Unfortunately, this was especially true on the defensive end, where he was by FAR the laziest Kings defender out there, at least to my eyes. Monta Ellis consistently beat him off the dribble, and often he was late to switch, leading to an easy Golden State basket. On offense, it seemed like he had a bit of tunnel vision once he decided to take it to the basket. The Warriors did an excellent job defending him (big credit to Monta Ellis here) and he often got trapped or put in a bad situation, leading to a turnover. Also at one point he was on a fast break with both Luther Head and Donté on the wings available to him, but he chose to try to beat the defender instead and blew the layup. So as for defense and decision making, I'd say Tyreke had a bad game. His offense was quite good however, and that shot looks silky smooth. Both of his made threes were nothing but net, and the one he missed was in and out. James and I were talking during the game, and we both agree that he is still lacking a mid-range and pull-up game, and won't be an absolutely elite scorer until he gets one. But his set jumpers look great right now.
Carl Landry: He looked like the Top Hat we know and love tonight. He ripped David Lee to shreds on offense with his mid-range jumper. His go-to move was to jab step towards the basket and pull-up for the mid-range jumper, which he converted regularly. He was 7-10 from the field, and one of those misses was just a three he had to heave up to try to beat the shot clock. He was also active on defense, poking the ball away and coming up with a great weakside block early in the game. His rebounding was still pretty bad however, and it's why I think he's better suited as being a super 6th man.
Luther Head: Lex (or Third Base if you prefer, although I doubt the Kings center a marketing campaign around that nickname) had a great game, and definitely converted this skeptic. He was one of the few mistake-free Kings tonight, and he was active in the passing lanes and finding the open man, as well as shooting extremely well. He's really quick too, and more than once beat his man off the dribble and got to the basket for either a layup attempt or to draw a foul. I believe there is still a big chance Luther makes this team, especially after how he's performed in the last couple games.
Jason Thompson: A bad start for Jason, committing a few stupid fouls and looking lost on offense, but he came back strong in the 4th quarter, where he scored all his points, and mopping up on the glass. This guy never gives up, and whatever role he's given on this team, he's going to try his hardest out there.
DeMarcus Cousins: The man of the night. In only 22 and a half minutes, DeMarcus had a statline of 20 points (on 6-12 from the field, 1-1 from 3, 6-7 from the line), 8 boards (3 offensive), and a steal, block and assist. He got off to somewhat of a slow start, especially defensively where he lost his man a couple times. On one such occasion, Coach Westphal subbed him out and then went on to show him what he had done wrong by diagramming it. He was better when he came back in. While his offense was superb (he should have had 24 points, but got two really unfriendly rolls of the basketball), his defense was alright (for a rookie center) as well. He really has a knack for drawing charges, and was just a little bit late in drawing a 2nd one that he got called for a foul on. Still, I like the effort, as charges are one of the best things a defender can accrue. He also went after the boards actively, on a couple occasions grabbing a rebound he had absolutely no business getting. His offense was the most impressive though, as he was just too big and strong for anybody the Warriors put on him, and his jumper was consistently going in as well. I had to laugh a bit when he spotted up for a three and he nailed it. It had gotten to the ridiculous point at that stage. He only had one assist (a beautiful behind the back bounce pass out of a double team to Jeter), but he had several other passes that were incredible, and he really knows how to hit cutters. I would go so far as to say that he probably has better court vision than Tyreke Evans. Big game from the Big Man.
Omri Casspi: An extremely poor shooting night from the field for Omri (he missed all three of this 3PA badly, including one airball), but he managed to make up for it in other ways. He was tenacious on defense, coming up with three blocks and a steal, and he played the role of point forward well, setting up a few teammates. He did have a few lazy dribbles and poor decisions however. Because his shot wasn't falling, he ended up taking it to the basket often, and drawing fouls as a result. His Free Throw shot looks a lot smoother than last year too, and he nailed all 7 of them. He was a beast on the boards too, leading the team with 9. He really goes after them. Right now Omri would have my vote for starting small forward, simply because of all the other things he can do even when he's struggling shooting wise. Coach Westphal might have a different opinion though, if only because he believes that Omri provides a much needed spark off the bench (he says as much in his post-game press conference, which you can view below). I also think this role might suit Omri better than a starting position.
Donté Greene: Donté was a little more successful from the field than Omri tonight, and he definitely hustled his ass off. He was everywhere, and diving for loose balls left and right. He also managed to play some sound defense, and led the team in steals with three. One thing I have noticed with Donté in each of the preseason games however is that he tries to be a playmaker at times and his teammates haven't been ready for him, or weren't even looking as was the case tonight. It has cost him a few turnovers over these three games. He was also actively going for rebounds, which was nice to see. For all the talk about someone other than Omri or Donté getting the starting SF spot, I think its just between these two, and once the season starts, they'll see most if not all of those minutes between them.
Pooh Jeter: Jeter was unimpressive to me on offense, but it's interesting how he can make an impact without you noticing. He had 7 assists, and while he didn't shoot the ball well, he also made relatively few mistakes. On defense was where he impressed me though. He's just a pest over there. I feel opposing players often underestimate him because of his height, but his low gravity and quick hands can disrupt opponents. Jeter will fill the role of 3rd guard nicely.
Darnell Jackson: Jackson didn't get any blocks, but he disrupted quite a few Warriors shots and layup attempts, and he was able to provide some hard fouls when he couldn't. He wasn't a zero on offense either, hitting his shots and nailing his FTs. He's a solid player, not the elite rebounder that Brockman was, but much less one-dimensional. And with Dalembert now out for 4-6 weeks, I think he has an even bigger chance to make the team, at least for the time that Dalembert is out (the Kings could keep Head, Landry and Jackson to bring the roster to 15, and then still cut Jackson if they want when Dalembert comes back).
Francisco Garcia: Garcia looked like he tweaked his ankle at one point, and hopefully it's not serious, with all the injuries the Kings have already had during preseason. His shot wasn't really going last night, but his defense was good, and he was one of the few players that bothered Monta Ellis.
Joe Crawford: Missed a three, then nailed one. That was about it.
Connor Atchley: Needs to send a thank you note to Samuel Dalembert for his extra couple weeks of pay.
Miscellaneous Notes: Too many Warrior fans in ARCO, even for a preseason game. We're going to have to take back ARCO for StR Night. Also there was a random guy walking around wearing a Kobe jersey. What the hell? Coming in a close second for weirdest jersey worn by a fan at the game was a Golden State Joe Smith jersey. You don't see many of those around.
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Dang Aykis
You keep bringing it like this and you will end up with one fine resume. I could easily see this being a paying gig for you.
I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...
Hi im new here but just wanted to share this

good win for the kings.
NBA, where technical fouls are easily called.
by Joe_Joe on Oct 13, 2010 7:19 AM PDT reply actions 22 recs
Hahahaha
F#ck Kobe Bryant.
F#ck Shaquille O’Neal
F#ck Phil Jackson
F#ck Rick Fox (twice)
F#ck Sasha Vujacic
F#ck Robert Horry
F#ck Derek Fisher
F#ck Dick Bavetta, Bob Delaney and Ted Bernhardt – I’m still waiting for them to have their jerseys retired at Staples.
F#ck Every Laker fan who comes to Arco Arena, wears his hat sideways and stands up and cheers with his arms out and his back to the floor whenever Kobe scores a basket.
Oh, and F#ck Jack Nicholson, Dyan Cannon, and that silver haired douchebag wearing the snakeskin boots.
Who’d I miss?
by B-RAD on Oct 13, 2010 7:31 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
awesome
I predict JT will never breathe through his nose.
by wallywagon11 on Oct 13, 2010 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions
brain on funk
"Even when I’m old and grey, I won’t be able to play it, but I’ll still love the game." — Michael Jordan
Go Kings!
by Panzerfaust on Oct 13, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
you're welcome!
"Even when I’m old and grey, I won’t be able to play it, but I’ll still love the game." — Michael Jordan
Go Kings!
by Panzerfaust on Oct 13, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
One day, you will say something that doesn't make me roll my eyes.
Today is not that day.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen. And for a limited time, every third person who follows me on Twitter (andy_sims) gets a free ice cream cone.
Which I will eat.
Okay, I just wanna say I'm so freaking happy for casspi, cousins, and this kings team;
i also wanna say that I prdicted that cousins would be this good and petrie should thank me for convincing him to draft him, :). Yeah I know I’m a douche, do something about it. Great game guys, best regards.
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This Cousins guy is no Darko
But I think things will be ok
by Hilton on Oct 13, 2010 8:19 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
good luck
"Even when I’m old and grey, I won’t be able to play it, but I’ll still love the game." — Michael Jordan
Go Kings!
by Panzerfaust on Oct 13, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think this roster is coming together nicely.
Seeing the highlights of DMC, I think it’s VERY apparent that Dalembert is more a 1 year rental and we will likely deal him for another piece by the deadline.
I like the starting 5 being:
C: Cousins
PF: Landry
SF: Greene
SG: Evans/Beno
PG: Beno/Evans
With Casspi, Garcia and Thompson being the main three off the bench for a solid 8 man rotation. I think that’s our best bet in winning, night in and night out. Jeter, Whiteside/Jackson and M. Landry getting spot minutes.
Swap JT and Carl and I'm on board
I like Carl’s offense with the 2nd unit. Reke, Cuz, Beno and Donté provide plenty of offensive punch in the starting 5.
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by Kfan in Korea on Oct 13, 2010 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions
I do too, but I also realize
Westphal sees things differently. And having a 2nd unit of Thompson, Garcia and Casspi….they’ll NEVER be out hustled, EVER, which is always a great trait to have from your bench to change the pace of the game.
Hustle is better against other’s reserves than their starters. It could lead to a lot more easy baskets.
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by caseycheesecake on Oct 13, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Might be early to judge the efficacy of Dalembert, given that he hasn't played yet. Also:
The defense was the same problem though, with Monta Ellis (who was an absolute stud out there) carving the Kings up whenever he wanted, and the Kings again having big problems denying penetration.
This is exactly where Sammy can make a real difference in the type of defense the team is capable of playing. Cousins will obviously become the more skilled offensive player, but I doubt if he plays 15 years that he’ll ever have Sam’s defensive chops. Few do.
The team will look very different when Dalembert is in, I’d prefer not to send him away for second-round picks just yet.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen. And for a limited time, every third person who follows me on Twitter (andy_sims) gets a free ice cream cone.
Which I will eat.
have to agree that we can't be happy with a starting five that is that weak defensively
I think we’ve got Tyreke and Cuz to build around, but we need:
(1) A better defending Beno for the other guard spot;
(2) A Bruce Bowen for the 3; and
(3) A Dale Davis for the 4.
Then we are good to contend for championships.
Life is every mammal's journey from very very wet to very very dry.
with Cisco, Casspi and Landry coming off the bench
Life is every mammal's journey from very very wet to very very dry.
Oh that's all?
I predict JT will never breathe through his nose.
by wallywagon11 on Oct 13, 2010 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions
He forgot Dennis Rodman
and a Barry brother off the bench to shoot 3’s.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Oct 13, 2010 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions
two things
(1) less than that won’t get us where we want to go; and
(2) it is eminently doable over the next 3 seasons, which is pretty damn exciting
Life is every mammal's journey from very very wet to very very dry.
the real hard part was Cuz, frankly
these other roles won’t be easy or necessarily cheap to fill, but they are fillable. And we do have $$.
Life is every mammal's journey from very very wet to very very dry.
have fun with your NBA 2k11 franchise
I predict JT will never breathe through his nose.
by wallywagon11 on Oct 13, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
you think GP doesn't have a wish list just like this?
it’s not like I’m saying “yeah, we just need Dwight Howard, Chris Paul and Carmelo to come here on minimum salaries”…I’m talking about filling roles with the best players available.
Before Bowen was with the Spurs, he was with the Miami Heat. But the Spurs knew he was a piece they needed, and they bided their time and pounced when the time came. That’s how you build champions. GP has the same sort of wish list, and he’s looking to build a champion, not an 8th seed.
Life is every mammal's journey from very very wet to very very dry.
neat
Pretty sure I never claimed you wanted Dwight Howard on a minimum salary or that we should go for an 8th seed. Have fun spouting all the cheesy cute little sports cliches to your hearts content.
I predict JT will never breathe through his nose.
by wallywagon11 on Oct 13, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
so other than my cheesy cliches are we really disagreeing?
not sure I understand the hostility
Life is every mammal's journey from very very wet to very very dry.
me neither
one minute I was teasing you for acting like it was so easy to find three really good role players and the next minute it somehow turned into Dwight Hoard for the minimum and the Spurs were biding their time and pouncing on players like a lion in the jungle.
I predict JT will never breathe through his nose.
by wallywagon11 on Oct 13, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't think it will be easy
but given three years of draft picks, our present cap space and some tradeable assets, I think it is doable.
Life is every mammal's journey from very very wet to very very dry.
This might be the appropraite time for a Chris Webber "good luck."
Either way, yeah obviously anything can happen, they can get lucky and get three perfect role players or maybe luck into another future allstar or just absolutely fall apart and waist draft picks.
I’m just saying that you sound like someone playing some serious franchise mode on NBA 2k11. There are still a ton of unknowns on this team plus I am pretty sure there aren’t very many Bruce Bowens in the league at the moment to begin with. Just enjoy this team while you can.
I predict JT will never breathe through his nose.
by wallywagon11 on Oct 13, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
I guess that's the disconnect
I’m not talking about getting “perfect”. When I say “a Bruce Bowen”, I mean a guy who has a stopper’s mindset and can hit the corner 3. You get the best you can get.
Yeah, I know I tend to rain on the “enjoy the team this moment” parade. I’m down here in LA, and I’m a bit removed from things, so for me I think it is easier to be dispassionate. I like to put myself in GP’s shoes. Maybe that is “franchise mode”, I don’t know.
Life is every mammal's journey from very very wet to very very dry.
what I don't get
is that our current 3’s (Donte and Omri) seem like they might grow into this role, and at least Donte has stated an intent to focus on defense. Why ‘go get’ one when we have some coming up that may work out?
Childress then flew to Greece and asked the team if they would pay him in gold bars, hookiers, weed, and marijuana. The rest is history.
by TheFifthMookie on Oct 13, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
If neither emerges by the end of the season
that is, looks like they’re developing into a legit starting SF it may have to be addressed. Too soon to worry right now though, they’re both still developing.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Oct 13, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't disagree with you...if that happens, great.
Donte could be the answer, and Omri could be great off the bench.
Just looking at it right now, Donte is not providing quite what we need from the 3.
Life is every mammal's journey from very very wet to very very dry.
Sounds like a good plan to me.
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Oct 13, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
We are 2-1 against teams with average bigs
But, our bigs got handled against an All-Star Center and Star rookie PF. Besides Cousins and Dalembert are both going to get their 24 min, so who cares who starts.
With Evans, Beno, Carl and Donte starting, we don’t need scoring at Center. We will need help defense at the rim, and for at least another year or two, that isn’t Cousins.
I think Dalembert has a job until Whiteside is ready to backup Cousins. Unless the bidding goes crazy in the off season, at which time we’ll probably try to use our cap space to resign Carl. And, run a 3 big rotation of Cuz, JT, Carl, with Whiteside filling in the gaps and Jackson could stick around too.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
I doubt Carl is a high priority; just my gut-feeling
Life is every mammal's journey from very very wet to very very dry.
I didn't get to listen to the game
Thanks for the recap, Aykis.
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
Great recap Aykis
The scouting is great. Keep it up.
I hope Tyreke not going hard on the defensive end is on account that it’s the preseason right now. Westphal did say that Reke is just trying to get through the camp for the regular season, so I wonder if that applies here.
I like that Demarcus takes charges. I wonder if he’ll incorporate the following into his defensive repertoire like one former King:
Whatever works.
Vlade Divac, the 24 year old [Redacted] center who reported to training camp at 250, 15 pounds more than last season's weight: "We all get heavier as we get older because there's a lot more information in our heads. Our heads weigh more."
Two more need to be cut
I’m thinking Crawford and Wright. Keep Atchley.
Vet's minimum
$850k
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Oct 13, 2010 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Great recap as always
Regarding the random jerseys…During the first preseason game, I saw a guy wearing a Vujajic jersey…I was speechless.
That's horrible
Vlade Divac, the 24 year old [Redacted] center who reported to training camp at 250, 15 pounds more than last season's weight: "We all get heavier as we get older because there's a lot more information in our heads. Our heads weigh more."
by kingsfan300 on Oct 13, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
It is starting to look like we might carry a full 15 into the season.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
But, how tight are the Maloofs holding the purse strings?
Head is a 5 year vet, so his min salary is $992K, while ML is a FA and can be signed for the same $474K that they gave Pooh. Jackson’s deal wasn’t guarantee and might have a date built in that makes it all guaranteed. Something like the 1st regular season game or Dec sometime. But all contracts become fully guaranteed by Jan 10th.
So, we could sign Head and ML to non-guaranteed contracts, and bring it to 15. Then we we’ll have 3 non-guaranteed contract. So, we might have until Jan 10th to decide who to keep. And, Wright makes $855K, and I believe we waived several players over the last couple years that cost us more than that.
So, I can see where we might start the season with 15. Adding ML & Head is only going to cost about $1.4M if they finish with the team.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
Ml would get the $885K since it is his second season. Other thaj that good analysis.
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by tomkanti on Oct 13, 2010 12:24 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Who's MI?
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
Never mind ML, I get it, Yep I forgot he signed with Boston last season
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
Donte' played better but
diving for loose balls left and right
Aykis doesn’t mention that they were balls he let loose on both occasions.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
I know there is a lot of talk about him being in the doghouse, but has he really played that poorly?
He came into camp too heavy and with a bum knee. But, if you look at his production, he’s right there with Casspi and Carl. He has more blocks and steals and fewer turnovers tha Casspi in 33% fewer mpg. And he’s shooting at a higher percentage, although he missed the only 3 three pt attempts he’s taken. The only place Omri is really outshining Donte is in rebounds. But, adjusting for MPG, Donte is rebounding at a better rate than Carl.
So, now that Donte is getting more minutes, I think we’ll see fewer of those breakdowns. And, maybe if PW hasn’t totally destroyed his confidence, he attempt more the .8 three pt attempts per game.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
I went to Arco last night too
and I thought Donte played well. He began the game playing D, trying to get boards, and scoring when he needed to. He was very active at the beginning and then settled a bit on offense. The hustle was there as well. Not an outstanding performance, but seemed like the type of play the coaching staff is looking from him. I don’t think they want spectular, but rather consistently solid.
While I’m not really excited about the way PW has handled some players, I think it may work with Donte as he fits the bill of what aparently they see as the starting SF. Looks like he’s trying hard to please the coaching staff.
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
I'm glad for Greene
He needed a bit of confidence, and this performance should help him.
But, adjusting for MPG, Donte is rebounding at a better rate than Carl.
That’s not saying much. I wouldn’t be surprised if Head is rebounding at a better rate than Carl.
Dunking Dutchman
True but Head hasn't had to play PF & Center
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
Which would make that even more of a statement, right? A guard rebounding more than your PF...
I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...
That 8-9 man rotation
will have to be set (barring Dalembert) soon. All this talk but I don’t see Jeter, M Landry, or Head being a part of it.
Tyreke
Beno
Casspi or Donte
Landry
Cousins
JT
Cisco
Donte or Casspi
as I’ve said, I think JT or Casspi have to start for rebounding reasons.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Oct 13, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
SG depth issues
I think that we need another SG to make the roster. I hate to say it but Cisco has had the injury bug and now has a sprained ankle…
I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...
Jeter will be in the rotation
If no other reason Beno is the most proven and willing passer on a team with not a lot of proven and willing passers. We need all the ball movement we can get. Pooh will play.
I agree if you start Landry and Donte, your rebounding is an issue. But then also consider if you start DMC and JT, you have two foul prone players to start the game.
So I think you likely start Landry to take low post scoring pressure off DMC, and because he is less foul prone. Not to mention he is the superior player to JT.
So if DMC and Landry are your starters, I think you likely want to a good rebounder at SF, so Omri would get the likely nod at SF over Donte.
My fan post predicted:
Tyreke
Beno
Omri
Landry
Sammy
…prior to injury. I still think this is likely group, starting with Game 2 of 82, with exception of DMC stepping up, and perhaps never relinquishing the position.
I am still a bit confounded with PW and his handling of Omri. I think he deserves to start tonight and get long minutes.
I predict JT puts up 7/5 this year.
No, I'm not sure what kind of statement that might be.
Curry had 7 rebounds in the first game. Sometimes it’s just about how the ball bounces, unless their going into the tall trees and fighting for the rebound.
Which was the point I was trying to make. Compare players of like position. Especially with a team that is missing a lot of 3’s or likes to get out on the fast break. I’m sure PW has set assignments as to who crashes the boards and who gets back to stop the fast break. I personally don’t know if it’s based on defensive assignments or position on the floor when the shot goes up. So, it’s hard to say when a player doesn’t rebound well, if he’s just hustling or if he’s just playing his role in the defensive scheme. That’s why I felt it was fair to compare Carl with Donte while Donte was playing PF & Center.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
My point
If SFs and guards on your team out rebound your PF then your PF has rebounding issue, but then we know that about Landry. He seems to have a challenge when it comes to rebounding. You can’t consistently make excuses and point to anything other than that issue.
Thus, my point, and the statement that was being made is that a guard out rebounded Landry at PG, yet another example of his rebounding issues.
I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...
Which brings us back to original point
I don’t think you are defending Donte’ well by saying he rebounds better than Landry. Luther Head is averaging 2.3 rpg in almost 20 minutes and Landry is averaging 3.7 is almost 32 minutes.
So he is barely behind Landry in rebounds when averaged by 30 minutes. A third string guard rebounds almost as well as our starting PF! You get how that really shows how bad Landry sucks right. I like Donte’ and don’t think comparing his rebounding to Landry’s helps his case.
I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...
A point of interest between bte and I
that I forgot to mention was that Marcus lanry has sudenly gotten zero minutes in two games. Has he already made the roster? Was it just an opportunity for Head to salvage some chance of making it? Especially after Cisco sprained his ankle – it was curious.
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
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by lietothegirls on Oct 13, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
[Landry]
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
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by lietothegirls on Oct 13, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Lots to players to see at SF, and PW has said that limited minutes isn't really a good opportunity
What has surprised me is that Marcus hasn’t been asked to play any 2. And, the same goes for Crawford. Although with Cisco & Beno out and Head having gotten plenty of PT already, maybe it’s Crawfords chance to see some extended minutes at the 2.
I think Head’s opportunity came with the injury to Beno. If we hadn’t rested Evans that one game and Beno going down, who knows how many minutes Head gets. With 3 games left, were going to have to give our regulars more consistent minutes so they can get into their natural rhythm.
So, it will be interesting to see who gets the minutes at the 2. I don’t see Head defending Kobe, and who knows how many minutes Reke gets at point. It could be some big minutes for Landry and Crawford at the 2 tonight. Unless PW has already made up his mind, in which case, we’ll probably see Wright, Omri or Donte on Kobe.
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So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
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by lietothegirls on Oct 13, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
He (Marcus Landry) is either on or going to be off the team
I take his lack of minutes to mean that they need no further assessment of him.
I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...
Third Base
Luther Head approves of this nickname 
by rbiegler on Oct 13, 2010 10:12 AM PDT reply actions 6 recs
glorious
I predict JT will never breathe through his nose.
by wallywagon11 on Oct 13, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Luther Head
Head looks like Webber’s skinny little brother in that interview…
I first thought of Snoop Dogg.
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by caseycheesecake on Oct 13, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
They do kind of ALL LOOK ALIKE.
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by Balky Needs on Oct 13, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
He reminds me Quincy Douby actually
except that he actually makes his shots.
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Nice.
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by caseycheesecake on Oct 13, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd prefer
Double – Double DMC.
or Double Double Boogie
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Oct 13, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I liked DeMouble
Life is every mammal's journey from very very wet to very very dry.
with two more rebounds he could have gotten off the
Double-Double Bubble
"The Kings have nothing to lose but their games."
some Double-Double Boogie trouble
Are you listening reading this Jerry?
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Oct 13, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Triple-D M C
Childress then flew to Greece and asked the team if they would pay him in gold bars, hookiers, weed, and marijuana. The rest is history.
by TheFifthMookie on Oct 13, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
There really should be a nice Triple D picture for this comment...
I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...
how telling is this pic
love the look on Sammy D’s face in the Background.
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Just to brag a bit... If you pause the highlights video at 53 seconds, you'll see this handsome young fellow:

That’s me!
The mother of a friend of mine is a STH, and she couldn’t make it out for the night, so she gave us these tickets for FREE. I took my nephew, and he loved it! He got a high-five from Slamson, and he still remembers everyone’s names from the open practice. He even pronounces Jeter correctly!
Also, DeMarcus and I gave each other the “mutual respect man nod” during a time out, it was awesome!
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I point out bte and I
just to your right, but we go incognito.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Oct 13, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, you were the shy Indian guys?
Y’all were cool I guess, but not very talkative.
Another note: Gary Gerould seems very nice in person.
"Cousins is the Blaster to Evans’ Master, the Hammer to Evans’ Sickle"- HP
by tomroadrunner on Oct 13, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
That move by Cousins
is one our SFs wish they could pull off. Ridiculous for a man his size.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Oct 13, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Why did you deserve respect again?
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by caseycheesecake on Oct 13, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
No real reason. But I like to give people the nod, and DeMarcus gave it back.
Just how decent people do.
I just posted because it was my first time ever at a game where I wasn’t in the nosebleeds, and it may be my last, so I was pretty excited. My nephew ate it up. A new die-hard Kings fan was born yesterday night. Screw the fact that this was preseason, we freaking loved it.
"Cousins is the Blaster to Evans’ Master, the Hammer to Evans’ Sickle"- HP
by tomroadrunner on Oct 13, 2010 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Can totally relate
I once got to sit 6 rows back for Kings-Lakers during 2003-2004 season. It was my one glorious moment. Phenominally awesome experience to me because when I was a kid my family would buy those 15 game (12 game?) packages up in the nosebleeds.
I predict JT will never breathe through his nose.
by wallywagon11 on Oct 13, 2010 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
That must have been freaking nuts man
"Cousins is the Blaster to Evans’ Master, the Hammer to Evans’ Sickle"- HP
by tomroadrunner on Oct 13, 2010 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Which one of you dorks is wearing the overalls?
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