Here We Stay
Here We Stay is a local movement dedicated to helping the elected officials of the Sacramento area, the NBA and the Sacramento Kings get a new sports and entertainment facility built here in Sacramento.
We believe the economic and social benefits that a new sports and entertainment facility would bring the city of Sacramento and the entire region overwhelmingly provides enough incentive to make every effort now to get this done.
This is not a campaign to assign blame, nor a reactionary group. Here We Stay is a team of residents and fans intent on keeping a valued franchise in the area and highlighting the benefit a new facility would have on luring top musicians, popular entertainment acts and high-profile sporting events to the region.
As an advocate on behalf of Here We Stay I urge you to copy and send the below email or one written yourself to Sacramento Mayor Kevin Johnson, the city council, county board of supervisors and the Maloofs. (Emails below the jump.) Together, we can make a difference.
You can keep updated on progress on a new facility through Here We Stay's Facebook page and Twitter feed.
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Subject: I Support a New Arena
To Whom It May Concern:
As a proud resident of the Sacramento area, I, along with the other members of the Here We Stay movement, offer my support to any measure that you take to build a new sports and entertainment facility for the Sacramento Kings in the Sacramento region. I believe a solution can be found and am willing to back Mayor Kevin Johnson and any other local leaders with any proposal that helps make this a reality.
Sincerely,
NAME
CITY
Here We Stay
For your convenience, here's a list of emails you can send the letter to:
JMcPeek@cityofsacramento.org
rtretheway@cityofsacramento.org
ssheedy@cityofsacramento.org
scohn@cityofsacramento.org
rkfong@cityofsacramento.org
lhammond@cityofsacramento.org
kmccarty@cityofsacramento.org
rwaters@cityofsacramento.org
bpannell@cityofsacramento.org
dickinsonr@saccounty.net
jyee@saccounty.net
susanpeters@saccounty.net
macglashanr@saccounty.net
nottolid@saccounty.net
matina@arcoarena.com
rinehart@arcoarena.com
hunt@arcoarena.com
mgermann@arcoarena.com
phorn@arcoarena.com
To email the mayor, use this form: http://www.cityofsacramento.org/mayor/forms/emailCommentForm/
In this thread, feel free to make suggestions as to how Here We Stay can help work to facilitate the construction of a new arena in the Sacramento area.
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I suggest that the city of sacramento build a dam
then we can sell water to southern california, at a penny a gallon to fund the entertainment center. I’m being billed for water and as far as I know most of the water I use is returned to the eco system and shipped down state. Shouldn’t we get a rebate?
Also, does anyone know how the new Crocker Museum was funded?
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You mean the dam I drive by to go to work everyday?
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I am guessing you live in the Folsom area
Just a hunch
I predict JT will never breathe through his nose.
by wallywagon11 on Oct 27, 2010 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions
The Folsom Lake dam only controls the American River
The Sacramento river is a much greater flow rate.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
Yeah
I wouldn’t want to drink that water anywhere south of the damn in Shasta (although I bet I do and I just don’t know it)
I predict JT will never breathe through his nose.
by wallywagon11 on Oct 27, 2010 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Only
you’re only drinking Sacramento River Water if you live generally near the river – Carmichael and east is all other sources of water (Groundwater/PCWA/American River).
It doesn’t really matter that much beyond taste (Get a brita/PUR if taste bugs you), as treatment standards and water quality testing for municipal water suppliers are so stringent that there is zero doubt about the safety of drinking water in these areas.
Childress then flew to Greece and asked the team if they would pay him in gold bars, hookiers, weed, and marijuana. The rest is history.
by TheFifthMookie on Oct 27, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
As for the art museum, that's a damn good question
They say they “raised” $93 million. I would think a new Entertainment complex would be more important to the city than a museum. How many people outside of California or even Sacramento have heard of the Crocker Art Museum, and how many have heard of the Sacramento Kings or ARCO Arena?
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by Aykis16 on Oct 27, 2010 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I understand the frustration...
but we should be careful not to argue for a new arena by pitting it against other projects that are working for the same purpose as a new entertainment complex: creating a Sacramento culture and economy that moves sacramento out of farmville, and into a metropolitan attitude where events, art, sports, concerts, are an expectation of citizens, and not rare occurances.
If I am not mistaken, the art museum was remodeled mainly on philanthropy, and while we may not visit it often, Crocker is an amazing place for students on field trips and art lovers who can appreciate art without having to leave the area, or wait until 2nd Saturday.
"The Kings have nothing to lose but their games."
by SactoRyan on Oct 27, 2010 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
I agree
I’m just frustrated by this whole business, and underneath this frustration is fear, fear that I will lose something extremely dear to me.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 27, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I am right there with you.
I am very worried as well. I have seen too many people tear down the Maloofs as selfish investors looking for a free arena to be positive about the whole process. It drives me nuts. The region needs to realize that having a developed railyards or entertainment complex location elsewhere, would not only house the kings, but it would create thousands of jobs, inject investment money into our struggling economy, and create Sacramento landmarks and culture to be proud of.
Everyone loves Raley field, its a staple of Sacramento and a beautiful park for both families and sports fans to enjoy. Why can’t people see an entertainment complex as being the next step to follow the model of Raley field?
"The Kings have nothing to lose but their games."
by SactoRyan on Oct 27, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Because nobody wants to pay for anything substantial unless they believe it's a necessity.
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Not for profit
The Crocker Art museum is a not-for-profit organization, which means that very wealthy people (and corporations) have an incentive to give—tax breaks. Also, for a number of companies it is considered good community relations and advertising to sponsor a museum and similar cultural institutions. There is a completely different funding mechanism for this kind of a project.
Beware certitude.
by Reges on Oct 27, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
The Crocker Art Museum
Is pretty awesome. It benefits the city in a different way than an entertainment complex would. If you have not checked that place out, I highly suggest it…
There will be a SammyP wherever you go. But don't worry, it scared me at first too.
Yeah, fuck art!
"If you're going to lead the orchestra, you have to turn your back on the audience." -Geoff Petrie
by AnotherStupidSN on Oct 27, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
I am under the impression that the Crocker does get some grant money
however the capital campaign was largely if not all private donations.
I predict JT will never breathe through his nose.
by wallywagon11 on Oct 27, 2010 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I know they got over 20 separate donations of one millions dollars are more from big donors.
I predict JT will never breathe through his nose.
by wallywagon11 on Oct 27, 2010 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions
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“or more from big donors.”
I predict JT will never breathe through his nose.
by wallywagon11 on Oct 27, 2010 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions
How about buying tickets to games?
Money talks. Buy tickets to the games and show there is a demand for the product.
Absolutely
That’s the best way the common fan can help. Letting the franchise and local officials know how important this is to you (through efforts like Here We Stay) is another.
by Tom Ziller on Oct 27, 2010 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes! $ talks. But letters talk as well.
Emails are very effective, but I’d say that if you really want to make an impact, you’d buy a few tickets, email everyone on the list AND physically snail mail everyone on the list. Snail mail is so much more important these days. It takes real effort. Email is easy.
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by Kfan in Korea on Oct 27, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Buying tickets to games...
just shows that we like our kings and we support them, but it doesn’t build a $200mil-$400mil arena. Ticket sales wont build an arena. So where can I donate money (like the million dollar donors to the Crocker) specifically for a new arena? If I can’t go a lay bricks with Aykis at the railyards to get this damn things started, I would at least like to help pay for others to do it. Since the rest of Sac wont let me help with my taxes, what else can I do?
This sucks.
"...this kid, Jason, is he really your brother?" - Jerry Reynolds on Ryan Thompson not making mistakes.
Technically
you could just send a check to the Maloofs if you want.
I predict JT will never breathe through his nose.
by wallywagon11 on Oct 27, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Why, will they own the arena?
The arena will belong to Sac unless the Maloofs pay for it.
"...this kid, Jason, is he really your brother?" - Jerry Reynolds on Ryan Thompson not making mistakes.
okay
then just send a check to the city
I predict JT will never breathe through his nose.
by wallywagon11 on Oct 29, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I want to hand write and mail the letters.
Any specific mailing addresses that the #herewestay group wants them sent to?
by KingsJunkie on Oct 27, 2010 8:47 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
There are mailing addresses for all government officials
And that is a great idea. Any government official I hear talking about the best way to have them take you seriously is to hand write a letter. They say that generally they will just skim emails to get the general idea, but when they get a real letter, they actually read it because they know you care enough to put the effort in.
Darko Milicec passes just as well as Vlade Divac... Vlade would be the first to tell you that
by prowseinthehouse on Oct 27, 2010 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions
i think we should consolidate the mailing addresses into a list so we're all sending it to the same people. It'll make ta bigger impact if the same set of politicians are getting the repeated letters
by KingsJunkie on Oct 27, 2010 9:02 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Sacramento mayor and council members are all listed as:
915 I Street, 5th Floor
Sacramento, CA 95814
"The Kings have nothing to lose but their games."
by SactoRyan on Oct 27, 2010 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Does anyone have any information regarding the economic impact of having (or losing) an entertainment complex such as Arco?
Quantitative analysis never hurts…at least if you are a rational human being.
Please please please
Remember, we’re sending these to politicians. Rational human beings doesn’t factor in here.
Never forget, I'm an idiot.
by Exhibit G on Oct 27, 2010 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
Cynicism aside
Make the efforts, send letters, send e-mails, make our voices heard. You can never know what the results may be, but at least you’ll know that you tried to do something.
Never forget, I'm an idiot.
We don't really need to your Halloween costumer Venomy.
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No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 27, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
costume^
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 27, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
need to know^
Goddammit!@!!!
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Oct 27, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'm reccing all three posts.
"Thank you, Coach (Theus). I'm about to kill y'all this half." --DeMarcus Cousins
I don't know where to be happy or sad.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Yeah.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Little piece of advice
don’t write an essay. Just keep it simple and stupid and hope others do the same. They are just going to take note of how many people are writing them is all.
I predict JT will never breathe through his nose.
by wallywagon11 on Oct 27, 2010 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions
UC Davis MBA Study
As always take these studies with a grain of salt…
Somehow, I'm sure this post is a waste of taxpayer dollars.
Also, I blame the immigrants and state workers.
Yours Truly,
Clueless Public
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by AnotherStupidSN on Oct 27, 2010 9:48 AM PDT reply actions 5 recs
"Immigants! I knew it was them!"
"Thank you, Coach (Theus). I'm about to kill y'all this half." --DeMarcus Cousins
Hey guys, off topic..
But, are we going to have 3rds this year or not? I haven’t heard anything from here or the organization in a while..
Thank you
This post needed to happen.
And that's wassup.
by Sacramento_Strong on Oct 27, 2010 11:26 AM PDT reply actions
Well I sent an email to each of the addresses...thank you copy -> paste.
I am hoping to get out to some kings games this year even though I don’t have very much cash.
Hope
Whats up with
that australian investment company ? Could a private sacramento citizens group such as " Here We Stay " approach them with some kind of plan ? And just keep it a private investment type of affair with public interest and venues in mind ? Kamilos +aussie firm + citizens group ?
not quite sure what you mean by "that australian investment company."
I predict JT will never breathe through his nose.
by wallywagon11 on Oct 27, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Wasn't there an Australian Bank that was funding Kamilos on the land swap deal?
I know we're gonna lose but I still think we're gonna win.
That investment was tied to stimulus money. And I doubt that developer will come back after the recent results.
But anything is possible I suppose.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
They were ready to put up money for that plan because of the Cal Expo land being invovled
The Expo land isn’t available now for development. That is, until the Expo Board and the State finally move forward on their much much better plan. In other words, probably not in our lifetime.
"If you're going to lead the orchestra, you have to turn your back on the audience." -Geoff Petrie
by AnotherStupidSN on Oct 27, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't bother, I'm sure they're drunk.
"If you're going to lead the orchestra, you have to turn your back on the audience." -Geoff Petrie
by AnotherStupidSN on Oct 27, 2010 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think there are many businesses out there that want to build public infrastructures in Sacramento without getting a sizeable return on their investment.
I predict JT will never breathe through his nose.
by wallywagon11 on Oct 27, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I still can't believe nothing was done back in the early 2000s.
Such a wasted opportunity.
I predict JT will never breathe through his nose.
by wallywagon11 on Oct 27, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Add a building fee to each ticket. We will build it together.
$2 added to upper sections and $5 added to lower. $10 to box and front rows. For every game. Other events will be charged $2 per ticket. Also, pursue the county tax again, but make it voluntary not mandatory. Get those Kings girls doing $5 car washes every day too.
Also, charge people from Roseville that use 80. Or just charge them in general for breathing air.
by carlsbadace on Oct 27, 2010 12:52 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
That would add $176 to my season tickets
Count me in.
And can we stop arguing about where to build this thing, and just build this thing? Really, at the end of the day, it’s not going to break my heart if the new arena were to wind up in the railyards, Natomas, Cal Expo, or as part of a floating casino on the Sacramento River. If the thing is within an hour of my home, count me in.
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by section214 on Oct 27, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
It'd piss me off if it ended up in Cal Expo because I hate driving to games.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Go to EC in a minute.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
But yeah.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Great idea let's expand
How about everyone in sacramento and all kings fans buy a “Here We Stay” t-shirt for 100 bones that comes with a ticket to a game. then we have a “wear your shirt day” it’ll basically be a witch hunt for anyone that didnt donate to the arena then we will guilt them into helping pay for an arena then we take the profit from the tshirt and build an arena. agreed also that i dont care where it is in sac as long as it is somewhere in sac. Rather fight traffic through downtown than hope on 50 towards kansas city.
by larry_funderburke on Oct 27, 2010 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I suspect
a few non-Sacramento residents would like in on this great idea. I’ll just change a few words in the above letter to fit and will send, send, send away. Thanks!
And
I would love to buy Kings tickets to support this idea but since I don’t live there is there another way to support them? I always end up supporting the Suns twice a year which makes me cringe like no other, but makes me root harder when in the US Airways Center.
Send me money to buy tickets
$1000 should do it.
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by Aykis16 on Oct 27, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Nice Work Ziller
It’s about time somebody put a plan together for pursing the arena….again. Let’s face it, the whole NBA-backed deal was a pipe dream from the very start anyway. This super complicated deal was doomed due to the simple fact that the state isn’t interested in being the biggest looser of the 3-party deal. Besides, who would ever want to drive into Cal Expo to get to a game or event. There are tragic flaws to traffic circulation in that area that cannot be fixed.
Lets look at Arco’s good points.
Accessiblity – Being located so close to the main arteries of Highways 80, I-5, 99, and Business 80 has strategic value. Why do you think the Kings have some of the NBA’s longest sell-out streaks?
imageability – Arco is very noticible from the highway. As a landmark, its (until recently) unobstructed view from the highway helps people recognize.
Loudness – Arco may be old, but its very loud. This definately adds to our home court advantage, and in turn the atmosphere at the arena. Creating atmosphere is certainly a tried and true way to boost sales (of tickets or whatever else).
So what do we want of our new arena?
First of all, there is only one place to put the arena – downtown.
Secondly, the soil needs to be owned for the city of Sacramento to come out on top.
Calrsbadace is certainly on to a good idea. The administive service fee, or tax, would continue to be added to the retail price of each ticket once games begin at the new arena. This admin fee would go directly to the City of Sacramento to pay back the city. Instead of having the residents of the city finance the majority of the arena (sales tax), the fans (most of whom are from beyond the city of Sacramento anyhow) pay for a significant portion of the arena. But this will only take care of about $5 million per year of revenue.
Lastly, Will the real arena builder please stand up?
Thanks guys. I just think it's our responsibility as fans to take this on.
I know that voters will never approve a tax over their own ignorance of the benefits a new arena provides our city. Adding and supporting a building fee, also clearly shows our support of the Kings locally to certain NBA commissioners. It shows a commitment by our own community to get things done that matter.
That is how the Crocker got built. And they ended up with amazing community support and international attention, an amazing new building and more high quality art to show the public. As an artist that has to show regularly In the LA area( Don’t judge I freaking hate LA) because my own city is devoid of proper galleries, the new Crocker is an exciting possibility that is about more then just art.
A new arena is more then just about basketball and I think we all know how important an economic jump start this will be for our city. Our message should reach that lofty goal too.
Well said.
If it were up to me, I’d just raise the roof on the Stockton arena and add triple the seats and the team would still be called the Sacramento Kings because Stocktonians have an incredible inferiority complex.
But that’s being selfish with the Stockton arena 5 minutes from my door and in walkable distance; instead whatever is in the interest of the common good I’m all for.Count me in.
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