Pistons Edge Kings 100-94
The Kings didn't fall behind by a dozen! They still lost at home to a, err, "sub-elite" Detroit Pistons team by the score of 100-94. It was a tight affair throughout, with the game being tied 86-86 halfway through the fourth. The Pistons had more successful possessions down the stretch, thanks in part to Sacramento's smelly, smelly defense.
Detroit scored 100 points in 87 possessions, an offensive rating of 115, which is just ridiculous for a team as offensively shallow as the Pistons. Sacramento's offense is no great shakes at this point (108 offensive rating today), but the defense is just, in a word, pathetic. Detroit shot 43% over its first nine games, and 53% against the Kings. Just ghastly work on that end.
No one Piston killed the Kings, unless we can invent a player named "Piston Guarded by Beno Udrih," because every Piston ever guarded by Beno Udrih killed the Kings. I hate knocking Beno's defense because he does try. He's just not good at that end of the floor, not when the opponents are Rip Hamilton or Rodney Stuckey. Hamilton, guarded by Tyreke Evans, missed his first two shots while Stuckey, guarded by Udrih, made his first two shots. The Kings guards swapped. Hamilton, guarded by Udrih, hit his next four shots. It was like that all night, and obvious enough that Udrih played just 22 minutes despite no injury or foul trouble. The coaching staff saw that the Pistons were beating Udrih like a meringue, and they pulled him until they absolutely needed him to run the offense.
That's the problem for the Kings' offense right now: at times, when the opponent swarms Evans, the Kings need Udrih in there to run the offense. Luther Head (sparkplug scorer that he is) can't do it, Francisco Garcia can't do it, none of the big men can do it. If Evans is being swarmed or just isn't making plays efficiently (he wasn't late in the fourth), Udrih has to be out there (assuming Pooh Jeter isn't dressed).
It's a terrible cycle: Udrih plays and the Kings get scorched; Udrih exits and the Kings' offense falters; Udrih plays and the Kings get scorched. Unless Udrih gets that effin' Yeti under control or Evans grows even more as a playmaker, it's a tough position for Sacramento to be in with little relief other than hot shooting in sight.
(That Udrih had the team's only positive plus-minus and that Garcia, one of the defense-minded alternates to Udrih, gave up the crushing corner three to Ben Gordon -- those facts are not lost on me. I'm just ignoring them at this juncture.)
Big game for Jason Thompson (10 points on 4-4 and 2-2 with five rebounds, no turnovers and just one foul), who will not be seeing another DNP-CD for the forseeable future. DeMarcus Cousins had some sloppy possessions (six of the Kings' 12 turnovers), but defended decently (in my opinion, and consider that relative to previous performance) and was a beast on the boards, regularly getting rebounds no other King -- not even Samuel Dalembert -- would grab. Someday, Cousins could grab 30 rebounds in a game. That will be when the league raises the foul limit to 17. Carl Landry was something nice in the paint and shot 5-7 from the line (woohoo!), and Dalembert had some fine moments hitting the offensive glass (three lovely putbacks, five offensive rebounds in just 23 minutes) and on defense.
Omri Casspi played with great energy, but was ineffective overall. Head played with great energy and was effective (13 points on 5-8 in 26 minutes) -- his zest for at least looking like he cares about defense is fun to watch. (Note: I'm not saying Head is just pretending to care about defense, he legitimately does, and it shows. Unfortunately, Hamilton can shoot right over him.) I have no clue, in retrospect, how Evans shot just 9-21, though I'll not plenty of short shots he'd normally make rimmed out, and only one of the three missed three-pointers he offered -- a desperation shot in the closing seconds -- was a bad look.
I am fully on board with Aykis' "I'm OK if I never see Antoine Wright shoot again" meme.
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Antoine Wright couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat.
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by 49er16 on Nov 14, 2010 6:43 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
im at loss for words....
Great analogy….couldn’t hit water if he fell out of boat… lets break this down…
with any gravitational pull, he is 100% certain to hit water; however, now if there is no gravity on this planet earth, there is a great possibilty of Antoine wright flying off into space, never, ever hitting the water, yet thats not possible because as i checked last, Antoine’s residence is listed under planet earth which means he will always hit water once he fell off board. Now what if there is a hungry big white shark lurking close to the boat and he fell straight into her mouth, head first, THEN YES>…he will never hit water.
I hope Petrie finds that big white shark fast and throw antoine in there, cuz i want him off the boat without hitting the water.
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by sacboiiiii on Nov 14, 2010 11:21 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
OR
His boat is just sitting in his backyard, not even in the water, and as he stands up after downing a bottle of whiskey, he falls out of the boat, never to hit water.
Darko Milicec passes just as well as Vlade Divac... Vlade would be the first to tell you that
by prowseinthehouse on Nov 15, 2010 8:52 AM PST up reply actions
Is Mussolini available?
I predict JT will never breathe through his nose.
by wallywagon11 on Nov 14, 2010 7:27 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
My first thought was Hitler when I read "fascist".
But maybe that wouldn’t be such a great idea, considering our roster.
So, which team's roster would you say is most Hitler-compatible?
"If you're going to lead the orchestra, you have to turn your back on the audience." -Geoff Petrie
by AnotherStupidSN on Nov 14, 2010 7:31 PM PST up reply actions
Dallas
and I am going to hell
I predict JT will never breathe through his nose.
by wallywagon11 on Nov 14, 2010 7:35 PM PST up reply actions
How would they ever get through a practice with Rodrigue Beaubois constantly waving a white flag at the coach?
"If you're going to lead the orchestra, you have to turn your back on the audience." -Geoff Petrie
by AnotherStupidSN on Nov 14, 2010 8:02 PM PST up reply actions 9 recs
Yeah, but it's easy to pick on the French. I shouldn't though, part of me is French.
Thankfully, it’s not my testicles.
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by AnotherStupidSN on Nov 15, 2010 6:55 PM PST up reply actions
B-Muss was actually quite offense-minded.
"If you're going to lead the orchestra, you have to turn your back on the audience." -Geoff Petrie
by AnotherStupidSN on Nov 14, 2010 7:30 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
That's will be when the league raises the foul limit to 17.
Hilarious.
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I'm beginning to hate Luther Head
He dribbles out the clock, only to all too often hoist a contested pull up three.
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He almost seems like a mini Tyreke to me.
Only with all his bad traits rolled up into one player, without most of his good traits. It drives me nuts.
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Sorry but i have to disagree here
While I agree the defense still has a lot of room for improvement, the main problem is this team’s offense. You aren’t gonna beat anyone in the NBA scoring 94 points unless you play defense like Boston. We aren’t seeing nearly as many lay-ups as last year, so at least there have been strides made on the interior defense. Offensively we are flat out painful to watch; we take way to long to get into our offense, there is poor movement off the ball, and our guys settle for inefficient shots. I think teams are able to pack the paint and dare us to shoot, exposing our lack of perimeter shooting.
Right there with you.
Our shooting outside 18 feet is HORRIFIC.
Nice recap...
…especially the part about Beno. Right now, he’s an asset on offense and a liability on defense.
Hopefully the shots will fall next time for spacing.
by getPGwithbounce on Nov 14, 2010 8:52 PM PST reply actions
The Yeti is hibernating apparently
Darko Milicec passes just as well as Vlade Divac... Vlade would be the first to tell you that
by prowseinthehouse on Nov 15, 2010 8:53 AM PST up reply actions
I'd like to see Udrih off the bench
Its time to throw Reke into the fire as a PG and live with the results. The offense might falter for the next few games but we are talking long term vision here. With Reke at PG, Westphal needs to emphasize inside-out offense; the first half of the shot clock should be pounding it inside with Landry/Cousins, the rest should be Tyreke with the ball in his hands. We don’t need to develop a complicated offense right now, keep it simple
by Scirocco on Nov 15, 2010 7:32 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
Agree on keeping offense simple
With Reke at PG, Westphal needs to emphasize inside-out offense; the first half of the shot clock should be pounding it inside with Landry/Cousins, the rest should be Tyreke with the ball in his hands. We don’t need to develop a complicated offense right now, keep it simple.
Option 1: Pound it inside to Landry/Cousins.
Option 2: Kick back out to Tyreke and he creates (but quickly; no pounding the rock).
Option 3: Tyreke drives and kicks out to a spot-up shooter.
Option 4: Pass the damn ball around the horn and get an open shot.
"I know we certainly gave up a lot to get him, but we do have other players on the perimeter who we can plug in. We haven’t had anybody who we feel is a go-to guy in the post. So we gave up a lot to get a lot, and we’re real excited about adding Carl." - Paul Westphal
Yeah, still not enough ball movement
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
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by lietothegirls on Nov 15, 2010 9:37 AM PST up reply actions
Why aren't they POSTING Tyreke????
If you are going to have Beno in the game at PG, it only makes sense to me to post Evans. He is a constant mismatch, gives you interior passing, can force a double team on the block, allows Landry to step away for his 16 footer.
If we aren’t playing wide open, I think it is moronic to not exploit Tyreke’s size in the post.
Good point
He’d likely get double teamed down there as well, opening up an interior pass to a big on the weak side etc..
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Nov 15, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
I think I'd only do that if Jackson and Thompson were in the game at the same time
They could take that mid range shot while Evans does his thing in the post. Otherwise, let Landry and Cousins do their thing in the post; they’re better options, and the one’s I would like to see exploited more.
Vlade Divac, the 24 year old [Redacted] center who reported to training camp at 250, 15 pounds more than last season's weight: "We all get heavier as we get older because there's a lot more information in our heads. Our heads weigh more."
For real!
I think we need to work to develop Tyreke into a PG role if that’s how we are going to use him. Let’s give him 20 minutes a night out running the offense by his lonesome. Otherwise, we need some more help at PG, and that PG is going to need to be able to spread the floor.
Tyreke isn’t a fragile rookie that might crack under the pressure…this is a confident, established player…now let’s see him tackle the role of PG more aggressively.
There is a lot of truth
to Westphal’s post game excuse summary. We had a lot of good outside looks and just didnt make the shots. Even shooting a miserable 25% from 3 and 70% from the line would have won this game.
What to do?
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
I agree completely.
The Kings actually executed the plays that were run pretty well. I have been keeping track. It really isn’t that hard of a system to follow and their offensive execution was much better. They just didn’t make shots and that is what lost them the game.
I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...
That was the sense I got as well
I think they could’ve played better in general, but sometimes it just comes down to who makes more plays to win. Unfortunately, it was Detroit in this game.
From what I was able to watch, I didnt like the fact that we kept taking outside shots
At one point, 3 to 4 possessions in a row during the 4 quarter, we took 4 outside shots that missed; albeit they were clean looks, but nothing was going down. And that point, I would have really loved to see it dumped into the low post. Moreso, I just wanted them to go to another option. At the same time, the Pistons made a run of 3 or 4 baskets in a row and went back up by 7 points.
There were also times I felt Evans held the ball way too long during a possession; the team would have benefited from spacing out the players and throwing it into the post instead. And I hate to say that because Evans is great with the ball in his hands, but they completely pack the paint when he has the ball during transition now. The only options he has are the jump shot (which I don’t mind him taking) and the kick out. Since he’s unable to dribble effectively with his left he’s usually limited to the right side of the court.
The team could benefit more from off the ball cuts and screening from the wing players, but I think the team is just taking baby steps for now in correctly executing the offense they’ve learned so far.
Vlade Divac, the 24 year old [Redacted] center who reported to training camp at 250, 15 pounds more than last season's weight: "We all get heavier as we get older because there's a lot more information in our heads. Our heads weigh more."
The Kings are playing the inverted triangle, failed to get into Princeton offense right now
The only thing worse is the defense:

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by betweentheeyes on Nov 15, 2010 12:31 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Beno's defense is troublesome, but his isn't the total problem
In my game thoughts, I suggested that Cisco might be a better starter. My thinking was that Stuckey was too strong for Beno, and Hamilton was too tall. And, as TZ pointed out Beno was abused by both.
But in the end, Stuckey was only 4-10 outside of the paint and Hamilton was 5-12. And, in the end it was McGrady, Gordon and Charlie V who beat us, shooting 12-20 field and 3-6 from 3’s.
And, while for the first time this season, we really took advantage of our size inside, scoring 22-27 for 81% at the rim. We allowed the Pistons, to shot 83% at the rim on 15-18. And for the season, the Kings are tied with the Suns for giving up the 2nd highest shooting percentage at the rim. And, we have the worst defensive team in the league.
There has been a lot of hype about how Dalembert’s ability was the solution for all the problems caused by Hawes last season. Well, what or who are we going to blame it on now? Beno didn’t give up 83% shooting at the rim. And, Wright isn’t the answer over Donte. Omri isn’t to blame for Beasley getting 42.
This whole thinking that we need a defensive goalie in the paint or a defensive stopper at the SF, is a bunch of crap. And, even if Beno isn’t out matched in size and speed, guards are still just going to run him off screens or in the pick and roll, and someone else is going to have to step up and help defend.
And, that is the crux of the problem and always has been, we don’t help defend or rotate. We cheat off of our man, but not with any sense of planning or team work. Even the coach knows it, but his solution is to go zone or to keep rotating in players hoping that someone can stop the hot hand. But, the problem with that is that the zone opens up the 3pt shot and we allow the 5th highest 3pt shooting already. And, the problem with trying to find a stopper is that this is the NBA and there will always be someone on the other team ready to step up once we shut down one of their players.
Things are not going to get better the way we’re going about it now. And, I don’t envy PW having to go infront of the press every game and defend his team. But, it’s time to start doing what any rebuilding team needs to do, and that is put your young core on the court together and help them learn to play team defense. And, if PW can’t do that, then he needs to leave.
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by HighTops on Nov 15, 2010 1:06 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
So the solution is that we run PW out of town if he doesn't show results next game?
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by pookeyguru on Nov 15, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
ahhh clarity, Pookey be thy name
well done, PG.
by betweentheeyes on Nov 15, 2010 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
Define results.
One man’s results is another man’s failure.
I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...
I didn't bring it up.
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No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
In otherwords, you define results.
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No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
OK so these aren't your words....
So the solution is that we run PW out of town if he doesn’t show results next game?
I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...
You are defining results here
next game
Really? HT didn’t say next game. You did. So, don’t go acting like you aren’t defining results even if it is you overstating what somebody else is saying to discredit them.
I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...
I knew you wouldn't over react.
And, if you actually read what I wrote:
it’s time to start doing what any rebuilding team needs to do, and that is put your young core on the court together and help them learn to play team defense
Westphal has a guaranteed contract for 2011/2012, he not a lame duck coach. He has time to work his magic and get these young guys playing together. But, if he continues to sit his starting SF, for the last 14minutes of a close game like he did against Detroit. Yea, I’d like to see the Maloofs fire his ass.
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The main thing I see that you said
We cheat off of our man, but not with any sense of planning or team work. Even the coach knows it, but his solution is to go zone or to keep rotating in players hoping that someone can stop the hot hand.
This is the main culprit. I mentioned it in the Phoenix game thread, but I called it ball watching: they cheat off their man, watching the ball handler but lose their man in the process. The result is it sends the rotations scrambling to each open shot as all it takes are a few passes to make our team pay. Evans is extremely guilty of this, as well as switching to defend other players. AS a result, it messes up the rotations again.
The tough thing with trying to help them learn to play team defense is that players aren’t pulled for making an incorrect rotation on defense. I would love to see that more from Westphal. Guys need to be designated their spots on who rotates where, fight through screens better, and just focus on what the other team is doing as a whole rather than just the ball handler. It’s just my opinion, but in game handling of the defense might work out better for the team.
Vlade Divac, the 24 year old [Redacted] center who reported to training camp at 250, 15 pounds more than last season's weight: "We all get heavier as we get older because there's a lot more information in our heads. Our heads weigh more."
Sigh
players aren’t pulled for making an incorrect rotation on defense
= an even more confused rotation? You can’t pull everyone.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Nov 15, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
Yes you can!!!!!!!
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For instance....
…you could turn over the roster every 10 games if the fans are unhappy.
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Well, yeah you can't pull everyone
But you can still do it on an individual basis, one player at a time.
When I ask for the pulling of player, it’s meant to be a pep talk to how the player missed the rotation, and what they need to do to correct it. Nothing elaborate, just a quick explanation by the coaching staff as to what they did wrong, on the side, and what they need to do to correct it. There should be no confusion whatsoever with the pull, as it’s meant for a person to reflect on the mistake they just made and act upon it quickly.
I liken it to a boxer who has had a few good rounds, and then has a bad round . The corner of the boxer takes him aside during the break, tells him what he needs to stop doing and what he needs to do to either: 1) adjust to what the opponent is doing, or 2) to get back to the gameplan. Again, nothing elaborate; just something quick and specific to help them get back on track.
Vlade Divac, the 24 year old [Redacted] center who reported to training camp at 250, 15 pounds more than last season's weight: "We all get heavier as we get older because there's a lot more information in our heads. Our heads weigh more."
There are other options beside pulling them out
you have floor leaders like Beno who can be used to point out errors during the game. And, there are timeouts, where coaches can coach. Eventually, they have to be in the game to learn from their mistakes.
If it were just one or two players, you might pull them for a chance to win, and work on it in practice. But, everyone is missing assignments, so you have to find another way. Even last year where 2 or even 3 player would go to double the ball at the same time. And pick and roll defense is none existent.
Everyone makes mistakes until they don’t or someone better comes along. Right now we don’t have someone better sitting on the bench. So, we might as well let them play thru their mistakes and help them learn to correct them.
It’s easy to say, because I’m not the one facing the press after the games or the owners the rest of the time. But, I feel strongly that the answer isn’t sitting on the bench, and isn’t some defensive stopper. So, you might as well, make the players that you have better. And, if you can’t, then maybe it’s time to leave anyways.
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by HighTops on Nov 15, 2010 6:09 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah there's definitely other options
But when I talk about pulling a player, I don’t mean to bench him for an extended amount of time. Just enough to give that pep talk. You may end up jerking a player like Antoine Wright around when you do this (someone needs to be sacrificed for the education of the younger players anyways, so who cares if Wright doesn’t get a lot of minutes anyways) , but I feel like it’s worth it. They need to know what they’re doing wrong. It’s a long 48 minutes, and it gives a lot of time to forget what your job is on defense, especially for a young team that may have a short attention span.
And again, I don’t think this should be done frequently, but enough to where it’s on the player’s mind when they play.
The only problem with having floor leaders like Beno or Garcia pointing out these errors is it’s hypocritical: they’re often to blame as well for the missed rotations. The main problems seem to start with the wing players, and it often just looks like lack of concentration. Or more so, the chasing of that glory steal; but more often then not, those type of gambles can make you pay.
The pick and roll defense is non-existant, yes, but I think that will just come with learning the personnel of the league more; studying the scouting reports and videos more, learning player tendencies, etc. The pick and roll is pretty tough to cover as it’s variable.
Leaving them in the game to learn from their mistakes is tough, as they’re going to have to eat some losses around the way. Old habits WILL die hard. And I think we better get used to that this season, as I think that seems to be the direction the team is heading right now.
Vlade Divac, the 24 year old [Redacted] center who reported to training camp at 250, 15 pounds more than last season's weight: "We all get heavier as we get older because there's a lot more information in our heads. Our heads weigh more."
Ok, I can see PW pulling someone out until the next stop of play to give him directions
I was thinking more along the lines where PW pulled Omri for the last 14 minutes of the Detroit game.
Unfortunately, your last paragraph is probably correct. And, somewhat unavoidable, because were losing games because of blown assignments now, and the quickest way to improve is not always the most pleasant.
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I think
a similar result can be had from going over the game tape. True, sometimes doing it at the game right after a mistake may drive the message home better, but doing it a lot is probably counterproductive.
Dunking Dutchman
I agree about doing it a lot can be counterproductive
It’s the job of the coach to decide how frequently he can use this technique. I’m pretty sure they do this over game tape already, so this is just something to help balance and maximize the teaching of the players.
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by kingsfan300 on Nov 16, 2010 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
I agree, but
you have floor leaderslike Benowho can be used to point out errors during the game.
We’re talking defense here. Beno pointing out errors on defense is like Eddy Curry giving tips on conditioning…
Dunking Dutchman
Just because Beno doesn't have the physical attributes doesn't mean he doesn't know it.
I still think he gets hurt because of the poor help he gets from our bigs off screens and pick & rolls.
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I'm sure Shawn Bradley was in the weight room enough
to know what to do to bulk up. Despite that, his advice in that regard won’t carry much weight.
Beno gets burned plenty without screens or pick&rolls.
Dunking Dutchman
Nailed it HT
I am completely with you.
It may be painful, but what do we have to lose. We are already losing games because the substitutions, putting in a stopper, are causing so many problems with breaking up any chemistry that we can’t get into any offensive groove. No boogie.
At this rate we will have accomplished little in terms of the development needed to grow. Put the core out there and let them learn to play help defense. Coach help defense. Teach help defense.
I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...
So who are the core players?
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Evans, DMC, Casspi for sure.
Are they going to keep Landry? Seems more likely that keeping Dalembert given that we have DMC. It may or may not include JT and Donte’. Whiteside is a likely candidate, but gets zero minutes. Beno and Garcia are not very movable given their contracts. So there is that. Garcia is probably a keeper.
They should, IMO, start DMC and Garcia is they plan to keep them both. Have Dalembert and Beno come off the bench if they plan to replace them at some point. If Landry isn’t sticking around then have JT start and Landry come off the bench.
I don’t know what the answer is or how the team plans to grow, but what they are doing now isn’t working.
I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...
dang typos
“than keeping Dalembert”
“if they plan to keep them both”
I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...
Casspi has to get a ton better to include him in the core.
DMC has to be a starter, which he is not at the moment, before he’s ever considered part of the core. This is my point: While you believe you have certain players who will be part of that core, until they perform that way they are not part of that core.
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Your wrong
The core is the players you believe will be the hope of your future. And, unless you develop them, by teaching them now, you have no future.
By your definition, Dalembert is part of our core, and he might not even be with the team after the trade deadline.
I know your still in love with Favors, but it’s time to get over it. It starting to dominate your prospective.
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Blah Blah Blah.
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No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
we need to get a 3 ball shooter
We have only casspi,cisco and they are not on much.come february or sooner we need a new guy who can hit the three.spend some of that money joe or trade some one!are team stinks right now.also i am wandering if westphal can coach our kings?
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