Kings vs. Grizzlies: Finally, a Measuring Stick for This Year's Team
(Ladies and gentlemen, the great HighTops! -- TZ)
Up until now we've played either the bottom or top of last season's team standings. In the Grizzlies we have a team that won 15 more games than the Kings. So, while it's still too early in the season to judge playoff potential based on this game, it's going to be nice to see how this years Kings team fairs against a near-playoff team from last year.
Last season, the Kings were 1-2 against Memphis with their lone win coming in Sac, 127-116. We were outrebounded badly, 57 to 40 and 20 to 10 on the offensive glass. Memphis got 16 rebounds from Marc Gasol and Zach Randolph and 13 from Rudy Gay. What won the game was three-point shooting, where we were 14 of 25, mostly on Kevin Martin's 7 of 10 and 48 points total. We lost the other two games, one in Memphis and the other in Sacramento.
Memphis is 2-4 with wins against Dallas and Minnesota and losses to the Lakers, Atlanta, Golden State, and Phoenix last night in double overtime. Memphis allowed Phoenix to come from four points down with 3.7 seconds to play to tie the game and send it to overtime. So Memphis comes into town to play their 4th road game in 5 nights, and the Grizzlies' starters having played extended minutes the night before. Gay and O.J. Mayo played 51+ minutes, Gasol and Mike Conley 46+ minutes and Randolph 41+ minutes.
With the Randolph just returning from a season opener injury, poor performance from their 1st rounder Xavier Henry, and the still unfulfilled promise of Hasheem Thabeet, the Grizzlies have been playing their starters extra-long minutes even before last night: Gay 39.2 mpg, Conley 38 mpg, Mayo 34.8 mpg, Gasol 31 mpg and Darrell Arthur 30 mpg. Sam Young is seeing the biggest minutes off the bench at 17.8, with Thabeet, Henry and Tony Allen all averaging less then 13 mpg.
Without Randolph, Memphis hasn't been a great rebounding team this season,and even with him they were outrebounded by the Suns 55 to 48. Before last night Gasol was averaging 9.8, Gay with 7 and Conley third averaging 5.8 per game. With their extended minutes, all the starters are averaging in double figures. But, it's Gay who leads the way with 26.4 ppg on 54% field and 52.6% from three-point range. Although, the real danger on this team might be Mike Conley who's averaging 15.8 points and 9.2 assists going into last night. Memphis also has some great three-point shooters, lead by Gay at 13-27 and Mayo, who is 17-37.
Defensively, the Grizzlies are 1st in steals 12.6 per game. They also lead the league in turnover differential, while the Kings lead the league in fewest turnovers per game. But Memphis is the 2nd worst team in three-point defense, allowing their opponents to shot 43.9%. Unfortunately, the Kings are the worst with at 44.4% .
This looks to be a game of marginal defense, quite a few three-point attempts, and a lot of fast break points. The challenge will be to stop Gay and Conley, and keep Randolph off the boards. So, it's going to be interesting to see if Omri Casspi and whomever Paul Westphal plays at the three can contain Gay. And who will defend Conley? Mayo at 6-4 and 210 lbs. shouldn't be an impossible cover for Beno Udrih, but can Tyreke Evans stay in front of Conley, or defend well on the pick-and-roll? With two days rest, the KIngs have no excuse for not out-hustling Memphis. And they need to make Memphis work on both ends of the court, meaning move the ball on offense and don't take quick shots. Should be a very fun game, especially with the Kings winning by eight.
(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)
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Chris Wallace is like the Rain Man of NBA GMs
he gives Conley and Gay far more than their worth, and after signing contracts they live up to them? It’s like the Bizarro-NBA
by vfettke on Nov 6, 2010 7:26 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Seriously
Conley is playing great right now.
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Nice write up!
I will be there in section 103 row DD screaming loudly!!!! Go Kings I just love saying DD
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by AnotherStupidSN on Nov 6, 2010 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions
I married DD
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by lietothegirls on Nov 6, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
good work lttg!
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by want2win on Nov 6, 2010 12:33 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Ok, I'm just gonna say it:
fun bags.
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Hopefully
Memphis is worn down and dishearted from that double OT loss. Those starter played heavy minutes and they don’t seem to use the bench much. We should have a major advantage being rested and at home.
by Mad Hops on Nov 6, 2010 7:34 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
This is just the type of game
we’ll manage to make “a down to the wire affair”. Yes, that is sarcasm. Seriously, the last few years we’ve played to the level of our opponents. Up for the Lakers and Celtics, and down for the T-Wolves and Nets of the league. Hope we get past that habit.
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I’ve been waiting for this game as well. The Grizzlies will be a good team to judge the Kings by here early in the season.
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Hey blako, I replied to a comment you made, on the thread about how we watch Kings games these days (DVR, etc)…you mentioned about recording games to VHS as a teenager?
I asked you a follow-up question to that, would really appreciate you checking it out and sending me a reply if you’d be kind enough.
Thanks in advance…
We have a good win-loss record
unfortunately it’s against 4 of the worst teams from last year. Who also are in the top 10 in worst defensive efficiency at from 106 to 109.9, this year. And, we played the World Champ who is undefeatd. Sorry, but I don’t get a solid feel as to how good we are based on those games. Especially, since we had to come from behind against the weaker teams.
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I know where you're coming from
In a few weeks we will have a better idea where we stand. I don’t like slow starts either, we should have come out with both barrels blazing.
important point
So Memphis comes into town to play their 4th road game in 5 nights, and the Grizzlies’ starters having played extended minutes the night before. Gay and O.J. Mayo played 51+ minutes, Gasol and Mike Conley 46+ minutes and Randolph 41+ minutes.
It will be embarrasing if we come stumbling out the gates again on this one. The Kings should win this on energy alone, and also use the depth of their bench wisely. I’d hate to see Tyreke freewheeling on defense for yet another first half.
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Since this is the case
A true test it is not. When you expect to roll over some one just because they are tired one shouldn’t then say we are better then said tired team. This isn’t the rope-a-dope, its beneficial circumstances.
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by sac_faithful on Nov 6, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Memphis plays at the 3rd highest Pace in the NBA, at 102 possessions
And, as I pointed out they have been playing their starters extended minutes all season long. So, while I would expect them to be tired after last night, they may be one team that it won’t have a great impact on their play.
But, I would expect some decrease in their energy, mostly because of the 4 games in 5 nights.
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I totally agree with the premise of this post
This is exactly the kind of team we have to show we can beat – especially at home – if we’re to take the next step. Dispite their current record this is / was a solid .500 or better team and one that would make the playoffs if they were in the East. This is also a team that thinks it’s ready to take the next step and be a playoff team.
I hope the Kings don’t play like they ‘hope’ they’re tired from last night and just go out and beat them.
That said, pushing the pace against their starters, especially in the paint where you would think that tired legs might lead to some cheap fouls . . . . that’s what I would do, alternately run at them and lean some weight on them. This is one of the few teams though that are fairly equal to us in size on the front line starters and 3rd big, Arthur is no slouch. Get to that bench and hope we don’t make Thabeeeeeeet or Henry look like stars. Our bench is easily superior to theirs.
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
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Wifey and I will be there in section 114
(either a little further up than usual or right beside our regular seats, the corporate seats next to us are often empty)
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
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by lietothegirls on Nov 6, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Ok.
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by caseycheesecake on Nov 6, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
He plays against Thabeeeeet I'd think - if at all.
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by lietothegirls on Nov 6, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Thabeet and Hassan guarding each other
It’ll look like they’re playing volleyball.
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by AnotherStupidSN on Nov 6, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah, and they're the poles.
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I won't lie, this game scares me
Like someone said above, the Kings can’t come out expecting the Grizz to roll over and hand them the game just because they’re in the 4th game of 4 games in 5 nights, and because they went to double OT last night. I think this is the type of game the old (because I’m hoping we’re not there anymore) Kings team would lose because of overconfidence when there truly shouldn’t be any,
I’m looking forward to a different mindset in which we come out with energy, effort and never take the foot of the gas pedal. It’s a great chance to show some improvement, so hopefully we can take this one.
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Darko’s pose is effing hilarious. And I’m still not sure if they’re wearing their shorts that high on purpose as a joke or if that’s really how Euros do it… or both!
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Well holding up the ruler to this game, it looks like we came up a little short
My first reaction was that I didn’t know which I was the most upset about: The fact that we had 20 turnorver, that with our new monster frontcourt ( were he played a center and 2 PF’s) got out rebounded, or that we only had 16 assists.
But, after thinking about it, I realized what upset me the most is that we had 2 days to prepare for the Griz and this was the best we could do. On the bright side, I can’t remember a game last season, where the Kings got the ball in deep to their Center for so many dunks. I think that one thing, opens up an whole new dimension to the Kings offense. And, we need to do more of that and not rely on so many jump shots, especially when were trying to make up a deficit late in games.
Coming into the game the Griz had averaged about 6+ threes on 16 attemps per game. The only had 3 on 15 attempts tonight. And, I would have thought that they would have attempted more than 15 especially with the Kings playing zone to cover up for JT inability to cover Gay man to man. But, there poor shooting was probably a sign of tired legs at the end of a hard road trip.
So, in a way, we probably were lucky that it wasn’t a bigger blow out than it was. Which makes the final analysis that the KIngs haven’t really gained any ground on Memphis since last season. But, the season is still young, and we haven’t really had time to adjust to having Dalembert in the lineup. There is still time left this season, for the KIngs to start to mesh.
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