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Kings Crumble Again, Fall 84-79 to Shorthanded Bucks

The Sacramento Kings have lost seven straight after Thursday's fall-from-ahead 84-79 loss to the Milwaukee Bucks. The Bucks were without point guard Brandon Jennings, small forwards Corey Maggette and Carlos Delfino and power forward Drew Gooden, all among the Bucks' top eight players. The Bucks were 11-16 coming in. And Milwaukee still handled business.

The Kings had 25 turnovers in a 93-possession game -- just unconscionable. Sacramento also shot 36 percent. In his (weird and completely awkward) post-game presser, Paul Westphal credited his team with fighting to stay in the game despite the offensive woes. And fight they did: Sacramento had 19 offensive rebounds, no small number. But that the Kings fought to rebound their own misses doesn't and shouldn't excuse the repeated and complete lack of focus the team exhibits on either end. Omri Casspi was the only King without a turnover; four Kings had at least four, punctuated by DeMarcus Cousins' five in 13 minutes.

The team looked completely clueless on the court, and that was magnified as the Bucks cranked up the defensive pressure late. Tyreke Evans was aggressive late, but took one terrible pull-up three-pointer at a critical juncture and blew a wide-open lay-up later, with the Kings down four inside a minute to go. He had a couple nifty baskets in there, too, and tried hard on defense. In the press conference, Westphal let loose that Evans has had a personal issue weighing on his mind. But the types of mistakes Evans made in this game weren't particularly new.

More incredible is the post-game firestorm relating from two incidents: a late-breaking story that the Maloofs are ready to can Westphal and Geoff Petrie (one that Joe Maloof denies), and another incident between Westphal and Cousins. This time, according to Jason Jones of The Bee and Sam Amick of FanHouse, Cousins snubbed Westphal's attempt at a high-five as DMC came off the court. Westphal allegedly grabbed Cousins and had some heated words. Cousins sat until Samuel Dalembert fouled out late. With Jason Thompson out and Hassan Whiteside in Reno, Westphal's only non-Cousins big men at that point were power forwards Darnell Jackson and Carl Landry. But Westphal went back to Cousins.

The Kings are an absolute mess. No matter whose fault it is, this franchise is a complete and utter disaster right now.

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I heard some of the Westphal interview on 1140 last night

It was weird – I got the feeling he was extremely pissed off and was trying to maintain his normal civility.

What a mess.

by otis29 on Dec 24, 2010 7:40 AM PST reply actions  

For some reason all I can think of is..

A quote from The Office:

Michael Scott: Yeah I went hunting once. Shot a deer in the leg. Had to kill it with a shovel. Took about an hour. Why do you ask?

In don’t know why…

by defender96 on Dec 24, 2010 7:45 AM PST reply actions  

hahaha...what a great episode.

Your friendly neighborhood Purple Drank retailer.

by ajd1083 on Dec 24, 2010 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

PW should have sticked with what worked

… and go for the chest bump instead of the high-five.

Fire the guy already!

Dunking Dutchman

by RikSmits on Dec 24, 2010 7:50 AM PST reply actions  

(Sigh) This season has turned into a train wreck.

You know you should avert your eyes from the carnage, but at the last minute you look back to watch the horror of it all.

Purveyor of Bull Plop

by SayWhat? on Dec 24, 2010 7:55 AM PST reply actions  

Let the blame game begin
The Kings are an absolute mess. No matter whose fault it is, this franchise is a complete and utter disaster right now.

Sounding a bit whiny today, and definitely not patient.

"Remember now, patience and stop the whining. This is something we have to endure to get better. We have no choice. Stick with Petrie, stick with Westphal, stick with Tyreke, stick it to the fans."

by NewEraKings on Dec 24, 2010 7:56 AM PST reply actions  

Its a damn shame whats happening to the team

I have come to the conclusion now that some sort of change is definitely needed. No waiting until the season is over no more pulling the wool over our eyes. We’re an embarrassement, a league wide embarrassment. How much worse can we get? I’m not saying change is going to magically solve all our problems but there only thing worse than a loosing culture is a loosing culture without any sense of responsibility. I pretty much dont care where the change comes from at this point…at least make it bearable for a Kings fan who pretty much watches all the games they can to sit through the entire 4 quarters without having to quit watching midway through the 4th in disgust at the umpteemth team-wide self-destruct. If I at least had confidence that the situation was being dealt with then at least I could have some hope for the future…does anyone here really believe that Westphal is able to right the ship?…

by Error on Dec 24, 2010 7:58 AM PST up reply actions  

It is sad.

This is coming from an outside perspective as I’m not a Kings fan really, so I realize my opinion may ring a little hollow here, but I have been reading y’all all season and when I get a chance I try to catch your games and y’all do seem to be in a real mess and it’s sad. And, I don’t think Tom was the least bit whiny with the last sentence there, I thought it was spot on and came from a fan who just wants better for the NBA team that he loves and follows.

Even though I’m not a Kings franchise fan it’s sad for me because I wanted Cousins to succeed after he left us (I’m a UK fan) and for whatever reason that is not the case at present. He is certainly not thriving in your environment and that’s a shame. I didn’t really expect y’all to challenge for a championship this year, but I can honestly say that at this point I didn’t expect you all to be 5-22. Oye. It’s got to be frustrating for a kid who has never lost like that in his life and I’m quite certain it’s frustrating for all you good fans of Sacramento, as well. Hell, it’s frustrating for me, and y’all aren’t even my NBA team.

Change would be good. I find it almost impossible to think that it could hurt and it’s probably a lot more feasible to make a coaching change than try to trade players at this point, right? So, again, I know you weren’t really talking to me, a non-Kings fan, with your question about…

does anyone here really believe that Westphal is able to right the ship? ….

But, to that, if I may, I will just say “no”. From an outsiders perspective I don’t think so.

Best of luck to y’all for the remainder of the season and I do hope more for DeMarcus’s sake than anything else, but also partly for you fans that something good can come out of this season. I’m planning on attending a Kings game in April and it would be really swell if some of these issues that seem so silly could be resolved by then.

Thanks for letting me say my 2 cents, and Merry Christmas.

by BigSkyCat on Dec 24, 2010 8:23 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm sorry

Is the team not a mess right now? I’m whiny because I broke the news that the 5-22 Sacramento Kings are a mess?

by Tom Ziller on Dec 24, 2010 8:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Definitely not whiny

Spot on, actually. I think NEK was mocking those on the board who think we should stay the course and not have a coaching change, because it is an unknown as to who would be the replacement.

I feel differently. Our execution is getting worse and worse. We lost to an average team that was missing four of their top eight players. Our players looks confused, the rotations from starter to dnp are well documented, we have had some epic collapses, and I think if there is no change it is going to get worse, with a lot of discord and flare ups both between players and PW, and the players themselves. The argument of “who else is out there” holds no water any longer, our guys don’t look motivated, they dont play well as a team, and the youngsters only lessons are on how to lose multiple ways. Any new Coach should come in, firm up the rotations, put Reke and DMC on shorter leashes to actually have some teaching moments, and work on execution, wins and losses be damned.

by MichaelMack on Dec 24, 2010 9:53 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Yes yes yes

We have reached “nothing could be worse than this” territory

Great post

by lchristmas on Dec 24, 2010 10:00 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Agree and disagree

Would I take Kenny Natt over Westphal? No. And anyone that would answer yes was not following the KIngs when Kenny Natt coached this team. There was no heart in the team – none. This team still has a pulse, faint though it may be.

I really don’t care if it can’t get any worse. I want to know that making a change will make it better. Kenny Natt would not make it better. Would Jim Eyen make it better? Heck, maybe that’s worth a try. Mario Elie blew his chance when he blew +.08.

The thought was that Westphal could caretake this roster up to at least the new CBA, at which time the hope is that the talent base on this roster will change for the better. If you are going to replace Westphal, it is likely going to be a 50+ game rental. I’m fine with that – make sure that you bring in a guy that can develop the youth, because wins mean virtually nothing at this point in the grander scheme of things. But I am still 100% against firing Westphal if all you have in place to replace him is a used toaster. Sure, the toaster won’t do any worse, but the odds are in won’t get any better. I’ve seen enough changes that don’t make anything better, thank you.

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by section214 on Dec 24, 2010 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Adding -

I would still give Elie a shot (no pun inteneded). But I don’t see how the Maloofs promote the guy after the E-Muss/Nocioni/Wright/Elie debacles.

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by section214 on Dec 24, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

My last sentence

was my point, Section.

I don’t think we should be in a holding pattern, however, because we are worried about Kenny Natt redux, that seems a bit silly to me. Look at our team now, Tyreke is playing a brand of basketball that is Steve Francis at his worst, DMC seems to have a different problem every day, Landry’s production has been awful, JT, Dontre, and Omri have been handled inconsistently, and both our offense and defense has become more disorganized as the season has worn on. Ofter 100+ games, it is obvious that Westphal has not gotten through to them. I think we can find someone to at least allow the young players to grow in a more productive environment, and not one as controversial and sometimes silly as it is now.

And I agree with you, I wouldnt mind giving Elie a try, if he has a firmer and steadier hand than PW.

by MichaelMack on Dec 24, 2010 10:35 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I think that we are on the same page here

I think our only difference is that I think that a change that yields no change is worse than not making any change, while you feel that there is really nothing else to lose. I can certainly respect that.

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by section214 on Dec 24, 2010 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Question Mike

Does a coaching change mean that Reke & DMC will respect the new head guy?

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by pookeyguru on Dec 24, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Does not changing the coach

mean that they respect the current coach?

by MichaelMack on Dec 24, 2010 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Not what I asked so I'll restate my question.

If you change head coaches now, what keeps Reke and DMC from not acting out under that guy too?

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by pookeyguru on Dec 24, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I think a coaching change

will make Reke & DMC feel they won and are above the coaches and it could possibly make their arrogance even worse.

Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!

by prowseinthehouse on Dec 24, 2010 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

That's my big fear in all of this.

It has nothing to do with Westphal.

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by pookeyguru on Dec 24, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Sort of replying

to both comments.

I think if the person we brought it was a bit stricter, pulling DMC when he is flopping about on offense, or whining too much, or pulling Tyreke off the floor when he has two or three consecutive trips down the floor where he shoots a fallaway three pointer, turns it over, or dribbles the clock away. I think at this point, it will be difficult for PW to be that person, and I dont think the players will feel like they “won” if the person can be a more of a task master.

by MichaelMack on Dec 24, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember when Westphal was first coaching for us

He would pull a player aside after they made a bad move and explain it to them right away. Then when he was able to tell them where they slipped up, they were right back in the game, and the situation was over then and there. I don’t know what happened to him doing that, but I liked that style better than what is happening now. For some reason him doing that stopped fairly quickly, it makes me wonder if someone told him to stop or something.

Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!

by prowseinthehouse on Dec 24, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Fair enough.

And that’s the decision that will have to be made. I just disagree at this point.

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by pookeyguru on Dec 24, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Recommended for
Tyreke is playing a brand of basketball that is Steve Francis at his worst

"Remember now, patience and stop the whining. This is something we have to endure to get better. We have no choice. Stick with Petrie, stick with Westphal, stick with Tyreke, stick it to the fans."

by NewEraKings on Dec 25, 2010 1:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Great post Michael!

The Kings are good.........at being the worst. Keep Paul Westfail, he knows his shit!

by DiegoKing on Dec 24, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Funny how that saying goes. When you point at somebody there are 4 fingers pointing back at you.

Only you come off more as… petulant I guess.

Sounding a bit whiny today

I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...

by MustangMBS on Dec 24, 2010 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Not whining

Fact

There are some guys dumber than me, some guys worse looking, I take umbrage at the fact that there is no guy that is both.

by ElRonToro on Dec 24, 2010 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

REC! Thanks for the laugh!

Hard work beats talent when talent is hardly working...

by kromeace on Dec 24, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

this looks about right

link.

I predict JT will never breathe through his nose.

by wallywagon11 on Dec 24, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

In the minority

       I listened to PW’s postgame interview too and have listened to most of his postgame interviews. He has never (maybe once or twice that I missed) thrown his players under the bus and seems to always have their backs. He seems to go out his ways to protect his players. He comes across honest, kind, and caring. As the “round mound or rebound” once said, if you can not get along with PW, you can not get along with anybody.
      This crap with DMC needs to stop. Getting thrown out of practice, the choke sign, last night disprecting PW when coming off the court is BS. The kid is 19. Don’t want to hear it. There are plenty of 19 year kids I know and have seen who do not have an attitude problem and are kind, considerate, and appreciative.
       If the right package came along and the oppurtunity presented itself, I would have no problems pulling the trigger on DMC. Let the bullets come at me.

by noreboundsnorings on Dec 24, 2010 8:31 AM PST reply actions  

I agree and I will add tyreke to it

In fact I would rather trade tyreke at this point, for basketball reasons only

I don’t think he had the skills to be or is willing to be a complimentary player. He will always dominate the ball and he isn’t good enough at it to be the leader of a GREAT team, which is the goal.

I’m not saying to go out and start shopping the best deal. But there should be no untouchables here.

by lchristmas on Dec 24, 2010 8:39 AM PST via mobile up reply actions   2 recs

I am not trying to single you out here Ichristmas but for whatever reason this stuff bugs me

I get what you are saying about “no untouchables” but … it’s not necessarily “everybody panic!” but … I dunno I suck at explaining it.

I predict JT will never breathe through his nose.

by wallywagon11 on Dec 24, 2010 9:03 AM PST up reply actions  

But Wally

Naybe we can trade the King’s and arco for the Heat and their arena

There are some guys dumber than me, some guys worse looking, I take umbrage at the fact that there is no guy that is both.

by ElRonToro on Dec 24, 2010 9:11 AM PST up reply actions  

I am a sucker for the joke, always have been and always will be

but considering how everyone here is on edge at the moment I am going to have to refrain.

I predict JT will never breathe through his nose.

by wallywagon11 on Dec 24, 2010 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Nothing better than a good refrain at christmas time

There are some guys dumber than me, some guys worse looking, I take umbrage at the fact that there is no guy that is both.

by ElRonToro on Dec 24, 2010 10:02 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

lol, almost went right over my head

I predict JT will never breathe through his nose.

by wallywagon11 on Dec 24, 2010 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

There is no such thing as an untouchable player on a 5-22 team. However, there is selling low, which is what I believe we would be doing with at least Evans and Cousins. I would certainly listen to any/all offers, but I wouldn’t fire sale these guys – at the end of the day, they are relatively inexpensive players with a ton of potential. If someone wants to come along and buy that, I’d listen. If someone wants to come along and just take them off our hands, I’d pass.

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by section214 on Dec 24, 2010 9:26 AM PST up reply actions   3 recs

Right now

almost anyone on the team would sell low.

When things are this bad, almost everything goes south. Fast.

Dunking Dutchman

by RikSmits on Dec 24, 2010 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

Which would basically take Evans and Cousins off the table, at least at this time.

In dealing players, there are a couple of considerations for the involved teams – talent and contract. The good news for the Kings is that they have no contracts that they have to blow out of here. They don’t have to deal any of their current players due to financial concerns. So they only have to deal if they can improve the level of talent.

Today, for example, Kevin Martin is playing like a much greater talent than Evans or Cousins. Would you trade either player for Martin? I wouldn’t, and I love me some Kevin Martin. Martin has likely reached his potential, while Evans and Cousins likely have not. Martin’s contract, though reasonable, is much larger than the contracts of the youngsters, too. So I wouldn’t trade either of these guys for a guy that is playing at a near all star level.

Would I trade Evans for Curry or Eric Gordon? Perhaps, but given Evans’ performance this year, the Dubs and Clips would never make that trade.

So the question becomes, would your fire sale your rookie of the year 27 games into the new season? Would you fire sale your #5 pick – a pick that you knew was coming here with some maturity issues – 27 games into his professional career. I wouldn’t.

I’m listening to all offers, but I’m not giving anything away.

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by section214 on Dec 24, 2010 10:33 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

All true
would your fire sale your rookie of the year 27 games into the new season? Would you fire sale your #5 pick – a pick that you knew was coming here with some maturity issues – 27 games into his professional career. I wouldn’t.

Considering the time it takes for Centers to adapt to the NBA, this is especially true. And it should apply to a second year player like Tyreke as well. IMO.

Dunking Dutchman

by RikSmits on Dec 24, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Thus the conundrum for improvement.

It’s not as simple as trading Reke or DMC.

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by pookeyguru on Dec 24, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree with this 100%
I’m listening to all offers, but I’m not giving anything away.

Maybe the only difference is I’d like to see Petrie do more than listen.

"Remember now, patience and stop the whining. This is something we have to endure to get better. We have no choice. Stick with Petrie, stick with Westphal, stick with Tyreke, stick it to the fans."

by NewEraKings on Dec 25, 2010 1:56 AM PST up reply actions  

My issue also

There are some guys dumber than me, some guys worse looking, I take umbrage at the fact that there is no guy that is both.

by ElRonToro on Dec 24, 2010 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

I doubt Petrie is out

PW yeah he is gone already. Not GP though. You don’t fire the guy who stole the current Rookie of the Year., saved you a butt load of money, and basically created a blank canvas. Fire the artist is you don’t like the painting or go to the store for more colors if you don’t like monochromatic.

I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...

by MustangMBS on Dec 24, 2010 9:13 AM PST up reply actions   3 recs

This.

I predict JT will never breathe through his nose.

by wallywagon11 on Dec 24, 2010 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

You stated that really well

but like Holmdel, I think the Maloof’s are gamblers, and as our situation worsens, I worry that they are going to roll the dice on something crazy.

by MichaelMack on Dec 24, 2010 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

whether or not PW ends up thrown out with the dirty bathwater

Mustang’s comments highlight why I am not exactly angry with Petrie. Well that is unless he honestly didn’t see some of the “red flags” in regards to players we drafted although I have a hard time believing he didn’t since it was all pretty obvious.

I predict JT will never breathe through his nose.

by wallywagon11 on Dec 24, 2010 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

I depends on how much influence Petrie had in the signing and extending of PW

and what part Petrie played in the decision to not spend the cap space.

I think most people believe the Maloofs tight purse stings forced Petrie into most of these decisions. But, saving the money might have been one of the reasons Petrie used to convince the Maloofs that the way we went was the right thing to do.

I guess we’ll never know, who convinced whom that austerity was the way to go. But, as someone already mentioned, the Maloofs are gamblers so going the cheap and safe route might not have been their idea.

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by HighTops on Dec 24, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I know what would help get Cousins in line

PW should unfriend him from his myspace page. That seems to work for other women when they get in cat fights.

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by ajd1083 on Dec 24, 2010 9:36 AM PST reply actions   2 recs

lol

I hear PW is considering taking DMC’s cell phone for two weeks.

I predict JT will never breathe through his nose.

by wallywagon11 on Dec 24, 2010 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Who still uses Myspace?

"If you're going to lead the orchestra, you have to turn your back on the audience." -Geoff Petrie

by AnotherStupidSN on Dec 24, 2010 7:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Isn't it great

That Sacramento is once again the armpit of the NBA. I was really missing the glory days of the 90’s Kings.

Who in their right mind would want to be traded to the Kings? And who would want to sign with the Kings either?

Welcome to the SUCK. Again.

Anyway, my .02 is let Westphal finish the year, because there is no one else out there to replace him. He was a good coach for the Suns back in the day, the key word being “was.” Embarassment is the right word for this team. Lets hope we don’t break the record for worst record in an NBA season, we are headed that way.

Gentlemen... BEHOLD!!!

by Wrath of Kyle on Dec 24, 2010 11:40 AM PST reply actions  

Lets hope we don’t break the record for worst record in an NBA season, we are headed that way.

So were the Nets, and they had a worse roster. They also fired their coach and got a worse one as it turned out.

Philly is now on their 3rd head coach in 3 seasons. Has changing head coaches really worked for them? This is the problem I have: We want success but not the difficulties that come with it.

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by pookeyguru on Dec 24, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

I dont know what your definitions of success are Pookey

but our team looks foolish out there right now, inventing new ways to lose, we have discipline issues, we have team work issues, we have poor offensive cohesion and poor defensive team work, and that is with this coaching staff having 107 games with Tyreke, Donte, Omri, Beno, JT, sixty plus games with Landry, Cisco and Dalambert being fairly seasoned pro’s. We are playing our worst now, with multiple personality issues and power struggles in the last year. While improvement is not linear, I also think comparing other teams coaching changes has almost zero to do with our situation.

by MichaelMack on Dec 24, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions   3 recs

I agree other teams don't necessarily have to do with the Kings.

But, the Sixers especially had older more veteran players that they could lean on. They underachieved. They’ve not played as well as they were hoping with the arrival of Evan Turner.

I just don’t think you change head coaches as the expectation of what’s wrong. I think it’s the last resort move when you’re grabbing for straws.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter

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by pookeyguru on Dec 24, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Your last sentence

Probably described your opinion better than any I had seen you write so far, and I see why you think that way. I just dont see this coach being able to fix what is endemically wrong with this team, and that a replacement would be the start of a process, not the only solution.

by MichaelMack on Dec 24, 2010 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Well of course it's not the only solution.

I just don’t see a stemming of the tide by changing coaches either. We’ll see what happens.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Dec 24, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I kinda have it out for Westphal now. Its been one season and there is no offense, I still don’t know what the Kings run. That is enough time to create some offensive system.

I know it will suck for a while, and patience should be excercised, but the Kings are soooooo bad that heads should roll if things don’t turn around by the end of the season.

If your don’t agree with me Pookey, bring it STR pickup again!!!!

Gentlemen... BEHOLD!!!

by Wrath of Kyle on Dec 24, 2010 11:57 AM PST reply actions  

Okey Kyle. LOl

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by pookeyguru on Dec 24, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

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