Kings 103, Mavericks 105: Sacramento Plays Best Game of Season, Loses
That headline pretty much sums up how crappy this season to date has been. But this truly was the best I've seen the team play all year. For once, this team was actually fun to watch, and I think a big part of it was the lineup change to insert DeMarcus Cousins and Beno Udrih in the Starting Five, and I think this is the lineup we need to run with for the rest of the season. The problem with our last "defensive" lineup was that our defenders weren't good enough to justify having them in the game for so long, and their offense was so bad that it negated their defensive effort.
Back to the game though, the first half (especially the first quarter) was really fun to watch. The Kings were hitting their shots, moving the ball and not making mistakes. The defense wasn't particularly good, as Dallas was still able to put up almost the same amount of points as us, but considering how much better the Mavericks are than us, the fact that we were outscoring them was great in and of itself.
Where the game fell apart though was in the 4th quarter. We got off to a GREAT start, with an 8-0 run in just 1 and a half minutes early on, and we also got the Mavericks to 4 team fouls right around the 9:00 mark, while having none ourselves. At this point, I thought the game was ours as long as we attacked the paint and hit our free throws. Then the rest of the quarter happened. The Mavericks were able to get to the line and chip into the lead with the time stopped, and the Kings stopped getting any foul calls whatsoever, no matter how much contact. The Mavericks would go THE REST OF THE QUARTER without committing a single foul. The Kings would still get a chance to go to overtime or win the game though, as J.J. Barea missed two free throws with 11 seconds left, with the Mavericks up two. The final play went horribly wrong though. DeMarcus had the ball up high, couldn't get it to a cutting Reke, drove to the basket and kicked out to Carl, who couldn't decide what to do with the ball and turned it over, meaning the Kings didn't even get a shot up. I attribute this to inexperience for Cousins (he probably should have just shot the ball instead of kicking it out to Carl, he was so close to the basket), and just one more terrible decision by Carl (who had an awful night) not to either shoot it or just try to take Dirk to the basket.
Player Recaps and Kingsflix video after the jump
- Tyreke Evans was on fire early on in this game, hitting shots from absolutely everywhere. He wasn't just scoring either, as he was finding his teammates wherever they were open, from downtown to at the rim for alley-oops. He cooled off slightly in the 2nd half, and wasn't nearly as aggressive in looking for his own offense in the 4th as I thought he should be. He only took two shots in that critical period, and didn't get to the line once all game. I would've liked to see him attack the basket and try to get to the line late in the 4th with Dallas not wanting to get to the penalty, but alas he didn't. Overall though, it was still a great game from Reke, and his shot looked so much smoother than it has all year. Also, here is proof that Tyreke can in fact go left.
- Beno looked good out there running the offense and getting us some good shots when we needed it. His big problem is still defense though. He got caught a lot on switches, and we were lucky Jason Kidd was having such a terrible shooting night, because Beno left him wide open quite a bit. Beno also has a nasty habit of coming in for help defense and getting a touch foul on a player who proceeds to get an And-1 where he would've just gotten two, or two free throws where he would've missed a shot. I can't say for sure, but I'm pretty sure all 6 of Beno's fouls resulted in shooting fouls for Dallas.
- Jason Thompson should've played more tonight. I thought he was doing a great job on defense, and he forced Dirk to take some really tough shots (which he made, being Dirk of course). The best part about JT to me is that he's much more comfortable moving the ball than Carl is, and I think that helps our offense a lot.
- Like I said, Carl was awful tonight. He couldn't get anything going inside against Dallas's big men (he might've gotten jipped on a couple calls but whatever, he also traveled a couple times that the refs didn't call) and his jumper wasn't falling. He didn't grab a single rebound, and he turned the ball over three times, including that critical final possession. I don't know if Carl has much of a future on this team right now, and if I was a betting man, I don't think he'll be on this team after the trade deadline. Perhaps sooner.
- As the guys sitting next to me in the media section can attest to, I'm not a big fan of when Dalembert comes into the game. His defense is good, but his offense is just sooooo bad, especially when he tries to do something by himself. He scored twice tonight and both came off great Pick and Rolls, which is basically the only time he's effective. But any time he tries to do something in isolation, it doesn't result in anything good for the team. Sammy is another player I wouldn't be surprised to see us move by the deadline.
- DeMarcus looked great in the first half as well, doing what he wanted down low, and getting And-1's with ease. It was fun to watch. His rebounding and defense weren't that bad either, and his passing skills were in full force, as the offense ran a lot smoother with him in the game and moving the ball around. He also stayed out of foul trouble most of the game, although he picked up a couple cheap ones out of frustration near the end that cost the Kings some points. His role in the final play of the game showed how inexperienced he still is, as he probably should've just taken it straight to the basket, but this is how he'll learn.
- Donté has evolved into a much more complete player, showcasing a variety of moves throughout the game, both inside and outside. Hitting his threes was huge, and the Kings definitely needed that. He started to get a little overconfident near the end of the 2nd half, but I still liked the game he had. What I don't understand however is why he didn't see more court time, especially in the 4th quarter. Coach Westphal after the game mentioned that it was because Dallas was playing with that three guard lineup of Barea, Kidd and Terry and he thought Cisco would do a better job defensively. I have always had a problem with how often Westphal reacts to the other team instead of trying to create his own mismatches. I feel Donté could've made a difference in that 4th quarter, although Cisco did play great when he first came in, knocking down two huge threes. He still wasn't able to guard Terry however, which presumably was the whole reason he was in.
- Omri had a decent stint off the bench. He hit both of his shots, and had 5 boards. I think he could've and should've taken some of Carl's minutes tonight. He left the game when Marion left the game, but Marion didn't get anything going at all tonight. Again, I think the Kings could've punished the Mavericks with a size advantage instead of opting to play to their strength with that small lineup.
- Pooh was a breath of fresh air with how fast he got the Kings into their offense. He actually got the ball past halfcourt at the 22 second mark and that was on a regular inbound. I don't think that's happened with this team in the past two years. He does have a bit of tunnel vision at times, but he did a good job finding open teammates. Once his shot falls down with some consistency, Pooh could become a decent backup point in this league.
- Luther didn't play at all last night. Zach Harper (Cowbell Kingdom) said during the game that he doesn't understand how a player can go from Starter to 12th man in just one game (same thing happened with Donté if you remember). I have to agree with him for a little bit, because if he was good enough to start 8 games for you, he should be good enough to get some minutes. Otherwise it just looks like you're admitting you've made a big mistake having this guy start so much.
Postgame: Kings Vs. Mavericks 12/4/10 (via kingsflix) . My favorite part is where DeMarcus says "The Lakers beat the sh*t out of us".
Postgame Comments: Paul Westphal 12/4/10 (via kingsflix)
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Nice recap Aykis.
Very enjoyable game to watch. So close to getting that win. I too thought DMC could have had a jump stop shot right around the free throw line to tie it. DMC or Tyreke are the guys that I want taking those shots with the game on the line. Ahwell. Lets hope the Kings take the same energy, poise, and momentum into the next game.
This
We really should have won this one, but the way we’ve been playing, I’m happy with a moral victory. If we play like we did in this game, consistently, we’ll beat a lot of teams.
Now in Sactown
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 5, 2010 5:06 AM PST up reply actions
Thanks
Has been fun so far
Now in Sactown
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 5, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
Cousins was getting pounded in the 4th
and got no calls.
Ridiculous.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Dec 5, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
That game was too winnable
1. I loved the offense and versatility of the starting five. I hope we see that for at least ten games to see how they gel.
2. What in the he’ll wad Landry doing in the game the last six minutes. It sure as he’ll wasn’t getting a rebound. JT should have been in there. It was when Landry came in during the first half when Dallas came back. He had an awful game. Bad D, no rebounds, and he is a poor passer.
3. Surprised to see a starter with a DNP? I’m not. JT, Donte, Omri, and now Head. It’s a PW trademark. I like Beno, Cisco , and Pooh getting the minutes anyway.
4. I had a lot of appreciation for Dally. When he was on the Sixers. I can appreciate their frustrations.
At least we played better. More ball movement, some decent defense at times. I just didn’t love our fourth quarter coaching. We. Need to create match up problems for other teams, and if a player is having a turrible game, sit his ass down (Lamdry).
by MichaelMack on Dec 5, 2010 12:32 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Sorry for the typos
Furiously stabbing at my iPhone.
by MichaelMack on Dec 5, 2010 12:33 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
hahaha
this image just made me laugh. I swear I’m going to stick my finger right through the screen on my phone one of these days.
As I watched the closing minutes
I thought it would be best to have Donte in the game , he would have been a good choice to guard Dirk (even though Landry did a decent job). But Donte had his O going and Carl had zip. Carl is one of the few guys Donte could have subbed in for and not hurt rebounding.
He was having a career night, He should have got more PT in the second half.
There are some guys smarter than me, some guys better looking, I take comfort in the fact that there is no guy that is both.
True
Donte should have gotten more PT in the second half.
Sure, Cisco hit some threes and Casspi hit the boards, but Landry was a non-factor as you pointed out, and Greene was having a great first half. Also JT could have gotten some more time near the end.
I just don’t really understand what kind of play got called for at the end of the game. Bad coaching by PW or bad execution by the players? Probably a bit of both.
Head getting a DNP-CD did not surprise me, and I can imagine him slipping into Antoine Wright-esque oblivion pretty fast. Especially if Pooh gets more PT as I suspect he will. Which may not be a bad thing.
Last year was full of moral victories. This is the first one this season. I hope they can build on it to get some momentum, confidence and chemistry going.
Go Kings!
Dunking Dutchman
The play at the end
According to Evans, it sounds like the play was to pass it to DMC, Tyreke cuts to the lane and gets the ball and either goes for the basket or hits Cisco for the three, depending on the defense. It sounds like the play just broke down.
"You can have the knowledge that a tomato is a fruit, but it takes wisdom not to put it in a fruit salad." Jerry Reynolds
I dont think the play broke down,
I think you’re right about give and go with DMC and Tyreke, but they doubled Reke going to the whole, so DMC had to improvise, and as he drove, he thought Landry was open on the corner.
I said it before, Id have rather had DMC shoot a 12-14 footer, in that instance.
You're probably right
DMC should have taken the shot. But oh well, on to the next game.
"You can have the knowledge that a tomato is a fruit, but it takes wisdom not to put it in a fruit salad." Jerry Reynolds
Its the same out of bounds play they ran last year
Including the game winner vs the Bucks last year. They have ran that same play at the end of games the last 2 years probably 10 time. Last year, however, Tyreke would throw it in to Thompson. It would have been nice to see Cousins shoot it, since Tyreke was doubled, or throw it to the corner to Green, I mean Casspi, or wait Garcia, or better yet Landry?? Why the hell was Landry in the corner as opposed to a shooter.
Donte started getting wild with his shots
one of those prayers miraculously went in. I would also have benched him – but I would have brought him back later.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Dec 5, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
Yet Cousins and Tyreke throw up wild shots
and continue to play. Donte was playing great last night.
Even though we lost
I’d love to see more games like this from the Kings. Nothing to be upset about here.
I didn't watch a lick of this game so I will go to the box score and mention things that stood out to me
11 Turnovers. 48% FG, 58% 3ptFG. The Kings only won one quarter: the first.
Thanks for the write up Aykis.I will try and catch NBA TV and/or ESPN for highlights.
Great job! I could not agree more.
I think my main issue with this game is that JT should have been in the game in the last 6 minutes instead of Landry, but otherwise a well coached and played game.
I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...
I was, for the first time this year, was able to justify a L
I liked how we played. Cuz could have stopped and popped it to win but learn now then later later. In the famous words of Bill Murry “…baby steps…”
F#ck Kobe Bryant.
F#ck Shaquille O’Neal
F#ck Phil Jackson
F#ck Rick Fox (twice)
F#ck Sasha Vujacic
F#ck Robert Horry
F#ck Derek Fisher
F#ck Dick Bavetta, Bob Delaney and Ted Bernhardt – I’m still waiting for them to have their jerseys retired at Staples.
F#ck Every Laker fan who comes to Arco Arena, wears his hat sideways and stands up and cheers with his arms out and his back to the floor whenever Kobe scores a basket.
Oh, and F#ck Jack Nicholson, Dyan Cannon, and that silver haired douchebag wearing the snakeskin boots.
Who’d I miss?
by B-RAD on Dec 5, 2010 2:22 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Hell of a lot of fun to watch.
We took a contending team and made them sweat and earn the game. I can absolutely 100% live with a loss like this, even if Cousins kind of mangled the last play.
I kept thinking Greene should have come back in, but seeing as how he was really getting over on Butler, and it seemed like Butler was out most of the 4th, I wasn’t too sour about it. People are bitching about Landry, but he had that crucial block, and still draws double teams better than anyone on the team.
I actually watched the replay of the first half, it was such a well-played effort by both teams.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen. And for a limited time, every third person who follows me on Twitter (andy_sims) gets a free ice cream cone.
Which I will eat.
So deep
Put her ass to sleep
by BobTheAutomator on Dec 5, 2010 3:18 AM PST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Wow....an actual game of basketball!!!
This is how I know the Kings can play….boys you have set the bar tonight!
Unfortunately I missed the first quarter. The thing that disappoints me is that when we make a good run, a bad call or two swings momentum the other way, which is what I thought kept them in it. I mean I’m not whiny about calls usually, and half the time, the stupidity of the team frustrates me more, but the consistency of refs, especially when we play good teams gets me. I don’t think there were Kobesque ‘Star’ calls or nothing, but plays like in the 3rd where Tyreke fouled Jason Terry at the 3, which sort of made contact wayyy after the ball was in the air, then the exact next play Beno hears the whistle, and throws it to the basket, but apparently was a late whistle and he didn’t go to the line etc…..Talk about Kill joys!!! same in the forth, we get our groove, something goes against us, bam, they back in it.
Last negativity, DMC….great game, I love the kid, but those 2 late fouls that sent Dallas to the line, were they really necessary? Both plays, he could’ve/should’ve just let them play the ball, and have a stoppage. The last play? eh, I don’t think DMC should have had it anyways, I think the team was looking for cisco? Landry seemed to be in a position to get the foul and tie the game….otherwise I would’ve rather had seen JT or Donte in instead.
Loved the bench tonight. Omri, Cisco, Jetter all played well. Like seeing more playing time go to these guys. Someone said the other night Cisco in the 4th against Indiana, that a costly turnover in the 4th is why he isn’t a leader on this team? I think tonight he proved opposite. He made things count.
Landry, I don’t know. When hes in beast mode, hes great, but to have an off night tonight….ouch. Perhaps Sactown not the best play for him, as he really needs to be fed at the rim (Another discussion altogether)
Dally? The question should be asked is, does his great defense make up for his lack of, boneheaded offense? I like him better off the bench.
Beno…I feel sorry for the dude. He is great offensively, the dude really tries on D, but dude just doesn’t have it. All but one of his fouls that I saw, trying to double team etc, were nasty. But he did bring spark and was just as important as anybody at certain crucial points. Need to find a balance.
Loooooooooove JT and Donte not only starting, but getting their minutes. The chemistry with them 2 and pretty much anyone on the team is great to see. Work well in almost any combination of players. Really, I think they play a bigger part than people may seem them too in Kings future.
Wow, what a long ass message once again (I’m first to admit I get bit carried away) But to sum it up, we played really well most parts, I feel we got robbed even against a quality team like Dallas, and inexperience showed in crunch time, which is only a learning curve. Although Right now a win is critical, and I don’t really care how it comes at the moment, loses like this need to happen, for the bigger picture…our development.
Apologise for typos!
Lets get a couple Ws now while we still can before it starts to get tougher!
As a gypsy
I am highly offended by your use of the word “gypped”. It’s like calling a little person a midget!
by BobTheAutomator on Dec 5, 2010 3:17 AM PST via mobile reply actions
I remember that joke from that show that Norm MacDonald had right after he left SNL.
Pretty sure it only lasted one season, but I’m pretty sure I was a fan. I did love me some Norm MacDonald.
"If you're going to lead the orchestra, you have to turn your back on the audience." -Geoff Petrie
by AnotherStupidSN on Dec 5, 2010 6:16 AM PST up reply actions
Not sure how I feel about this performance
It certainly answers the question of whether the players have quit on PW. But it also tells us they have the potential to play good basketball, but rarely do. And it figures they bust out a performance like this, but save it for one of the best teams in the league (and still lose).
Still, it’s progress. Further progress would be to play well back-to-back.
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
::coughyouthandinexperiencecoughcough::
they have the potential to play good basketball, but rarely do.
"If you're going to lead the orchestra, you have to turn your back on the audience." -Geoff Petrie
by AnotherStupidSN on Dec 5, 2010 6:18 AM PST up reply actions
Easy to second guess PW here
But his coaching in last half of 4th could have been better. Watching off the ball there were a few good passing opportunites missed by Evans followed by a bad pass TO. The most memorable was not to JT iunder the rim with Barrera behind him. Its been said before, the young Kings need a solid PG. The same rotation issues with PW showed in the last quarter. No Donte, no JT. With 11 seconds, the floor should have been spread, Evans driving on the last shot. Team is too inexperienced to be moving the ball around on that posession.
The last play
I think it was a good play (looked like the same one that ‘Reke beat the Bucks with last year, no?), and I think Cuz made the right decision not to try to pass it to Evans, but he should have taken the open jumper. Maybe he thought there was still too much time on the clock? Anyways, rookie mistake, no big deal. Passing out to an open Carl isn’t a terrible idea. Carl should’ve taken the shot. He was way off last night, not too worried. I just wish Landry’s crazy ill-advised pass at the end would’ve actually made it to Cisco’s hands. If I were to make a list of the shots I’d want to see with our team down 2 and the clock winding down, an “open Cisco catch-and-shoot three” would be right near the top. Dah well. Good effort.
"If you're going to lead the orchestra, you have to turn your back on the audience." -Geoff Petrie
I'm just saying you minimize the passing in this situation
Your giving the other team more defensive opportunities and your players can lose track of the clock. That leads to hurried passes and turnovers. The extra passes on that posession led to the no shot at end.
you need to watch more Cisco
"open Cisco catch-and-shoot three"
- his foot was on the line (baseline or 3, take your pick)
by betweentheeyes on Dec 5, 2010 10:30 AM PST up reply actions
Ha, fair enough.
"If you're going to lead the orchestra, you have to turn your back on the audience." -Geoff Petrie
by AnotherStupidSN on Dec 5, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
Landry tried to dribble
instead of just taking the fairly easy shot
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Dec 5, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
Observations
Unfortunately I missed most of the first part of the game, and with the Dish-Comcast issue am not able to record them and go back and see what sounds like a good first-half effort.
So what I saw was a good effort by the Pooh lineup in the third and fourth quarters that featured crisp passing and good shots and got us a 9-point lead and a predictable comeback against the Tyreke unit which stopped passing the ball and got terrible shots late in the game clock.
Even though Grant and Jerry were getting pretty excited about the nine-point lead, I fully expected us to wilt under the pressure. But you have to expect that with a solid team like the Mavericks facing us.
Cousins took a couple of steps backwards in his play during crunch time and started pressing again. Take a deep breath, big fellow, and let the game come to you.
I think Landry could be more effective playing with a true point guard, but we only have one of those and he played 10 minutes last night. I hope Jeter continues to get more burn, because the team has a lot of energy when he is on the floor. That pass to Garcia underneath for the layup was a thing of beauty.
"I think more than a coaching change is needed. I think an overall front office cleaning should precede any coaching changes. Anyone up for letting Petrie move on and letting Pritchard take his spot?"
Nothing would have made Landry more effective last night
he was terrible – and if you wanted to point a finger, it would be easy to say he was the big reason they lost this game.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Dec 5, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
He was on the floor when we took the late lead
with the bench unit, and even if he was just a spaceman, the unit worked just fine.
Most of why we lost the lead was due to Beno and Tyreke holding the ball. But I’d agree Landry did not play very well overall.
"I think more than a coaching change is needed. I think an overall front office cleaning should precede any coaching changes. Anyone up for letting Petrie move on and letting Pritchard take his spot?"
Just to echo what other people are posting
I’m just glad the Kings played respectable basketball. Win or lose, I’ll continue to watch as long as they play like that. I was getting tired of the pathetic play. It seemed that they had lost all desire.
couple of thoughts from me
1. i HATE when dalembert gets the ball. it really feels like when hes in the game we play 4 on 5 on offense, and for some reason he gets plays called for him! its so frustrating. he got a lot of 4th quarter mins that i felt cousins should have got. westphal went with 5 bench players to start the 4th and it worked for about 5 mins as they went on a mini run. but i think paul took too long to get any starters back in the game.
2. it must suck to be donte. he had an incredible 1st half (19 points) comes in the second half, misses a few shots and never sees the court again. i dont understand it, westphal has these guys on such a short leesh, how are you supposed to play with any confidence.
3. i am perfectly fine with pooh jeter getting 15 mins a night of the bench to change up the tempo of the game. i dont member him hitting any shots but he definitely added energy to the kings when he came in
4. thats the tyreke we all know and love
5. damn, we couldnt even get a shot up? man
last thing, this was the first time all year i saw the kings get a standing o (they got 2). they were REALLY playing good. i was scared waiting the “THAT” quarter but it never came. that 1st quarter was a thing of beauty.
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
He didn't get pulled for missing shots
He got pulled because the Mavs went with three guards. It was actually a pretty good cal by PW to go with Garcia, and if anyone had found him every time he was open for a corner three we would have won this game. What baffled me was why JT didn’t come back in for Landry when it was clear he was playing like crap.
"This season is another learning process for this team. There is no segment of the schedule that looms larger than the sum of the season, in my opinion."
Section 214
Butler didn't sit until 1:10 left in the 3rd, and Marion started the 4th.
Carlisle didn’t go to the 3 guard offense until 6:51 in the 4th. Donte got pull 4 minutes into the 3rd. So, no Donte didn’t get pulled because of the 3 guard offense. And, so what if they didn got to 3 guards. They were playing Barea, Kidd and Terry. Donte could have defended Kidd, in fact nobody needed to defend KIdd the way he was shooting, 2-10. I think the only points he got in the 4th were from the FT line.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
Well
Then Westphal must have been lying when he said he didn’t play Donte because they had gone to a three guard rotation.
"This season is another learning process for this team. There is no segment of the schedule that looms larger than the sum of the season, in my opinion."
Section 214
But it's certainly true that others guys (Landy excepted)
were playing very well. I also agree with those who say that Donte’ had gotten wild at the end of the half and to start the 3rd.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Dec 5, 2010 6:35 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not sure he got pulled for missing shots
maybe he got pulled for taking shots. After all didn’t PW say that the 3 spot wasn’t supposed to be a primary scoring position in his offense. Donte put up 13 shots in the 1st half making 8 of them. Maybe PW thought he was going to try the same thing in the 2nd half and decided to bench him because he didn’t know his role. ;)
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
the guy gives you 19 points in a half (leading the team)
and u give him 4 mins in the 2nd half because he was taking shots (or missing them depending on ur point of view) it just doesnt add up to me. and i completely agree with you that the defense excuse is complete bullshit
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
by Eddie Gonzalez on Dec 5, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
Agree
Donte seems like the only guy on the team that know how to play without the ball. He was making his jumpers, making plays for others, and his energy is contagious (not to mention he seems to pump up the crowd with his plays). DG, Tyreke, and JT are good friends off the court, and their chemistry shows on the court.
This game made my weekend.
I’m so glad we finally put it together, and nearly won against Dallas. I don’t care about wins/losses, really; as long as we play well, I’m happy.
I loved how the bench was giving shoulders massages to the guys who were playing during timeouts. I remember noticing it a couple times, but the only players I remember who got massages were Beno and Omri. I just thought that was pretty funny.
In these times, you have to be an optimist to open your eyes when you awake in the morning.
~Carl Sandburg
last thing
if u ever can get tickets to see the mavs, go. it seems like every time dirk scores its an amazing shot. hes real fun to watch in person
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
There was that one crazy shot
Where he basically had his shot blocked half the way up into his shot, but forced it through and in anyway. Just ridiculous.
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yea that was insane
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
by Eddie Gonzalez on Dec 5, 2010 9:33 AM PST up reply actions
crazy lucky
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Dec 5, 2010 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
my thoughts exactly
he just consistently backs in, turns around, and shoots a HIGH arching shot that just falls right in. gets ooo’s from the crowd every time.
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
by Eddie Gonzalez on Dec 5, 2010 9:33 AM PST up reply actions
Did I call this or what?
I predict right now that in the next couple of games (possibly even tonight) you will see a fired-up team going out and playing the best they’ve played all season
Of course it would have been a lot more enjoyable if we had won. But I will go on to predict that last night’s game was not a fluke at all. Road games may still be tough for us. But we have now seen three games out of four where we have played two or more quarters of quality defense and exciting, ball-moving, offense. These guys are learning. They are getting it. And they are pretty darn talented for as young as they are. I hope we don’t do anything to disrupt it. I want to see who we are in another month even.
Final prediction. He won’t win the ROY. But by the end of the season Cuz will be viewed as either the best or second best pick in this draft.
"This season is another learning process for this team. There is no segment of the schedule that looms larger than the sum of the season, in my opinion."
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by SavageBeast on Dec 5, 2010 9:28 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I fully agree with this
He won’t win the ROY. But by the end of the season Cuz will be viewed as either the best or second best pick in this draft.
He could end up having a very Stephen Curry-ish Rookie Year, with the slow start for the first month and a half, before consistently putting up good numbers. But if any media member votes for him over John Wall and Blake Griffin (my pick for RoY) as Rookie of the Year (unless one or both of them miss significant time with injury), they deserve to be stripped of their vote.
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I think Griff is already a lock.
"This season is another learning process for this team. There is no segment of the schedule that looms larger than the sum of the season, in my opinion."
Section 214
Wall has been just as impressive on the backcourt side
He doesn’t make as many all-important ESPN highlights (side note: how annoying is the current segment on ESPNews “oh, no he didn’t”? Just plain silly.) They seem to carry a BG dunk every Clipper game.
But the steals, assists and points of Wall are at least equally impressive and IMO it is much harder to be the quarterback of a team than the running back (my football analogy for Wall vs. Griffin).
I think Greg Monroe has been very good and Derrick Favors as well. I would say that as this last draft was a “big man’s” draft that DeMarcus – despite the negative press that will follow him throughout his tenure, deserved or not – will end this season as the best big man of the draft and second to Blake Griffin as best “big” rookie at season’s end.
by betweentheeyes on Dec 5, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
Agreed
It’s not clear to me why BG is overwhelmingly the favorite at this (early) point in the race. He dominates the highlight reel, but Wall’s numbers are more impressive imo.
You should see ESPN's 100,000 sq ft office space adjacent to Staples Center
t’s not clear to me why BG is overwhelmingly the favorite
by betweentheeyes on Dec 5, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
I agree. Blake Griffin is the ROY hands down. Why is this even a debate??
by Kaylee19 on Dec 5, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
Because at this time last season, Brandon Jennings was "The RoY, hands down"
The season is a marathon not a sprint
by betweentheeyes on Dec 5, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
No he wasn't.
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by caseycheesecake on Dec 5, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
Depending on whom you asked it was.
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by lietothegirls on Dec 5, 2010 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
It doesn't matter.
I think awards are stupid regardless. The voting process shows me to be right almost every time.
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Unless he gets hurt again
I don’t wish him any ill at all, but he goes so hard that you wonder what happens in an 82 game season.
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by lietothegirls on Dec 5, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
Yep
Always things that could change.
"This season is another learning process for this team. There is no segment of the schedule that looms larger than the sum of the season, in my opinion."
Section 214
In a close game against a good team, every possession counts, Dalembert and Garcia are key and important players during the course of the game but, I cringe when they touch the ball in the final minutes of crunch time. The brick laying kills us every time.
Garcia is the best 3pt shooter on the team
When he shoots 3’s with his feet set, from the corner especially, he is money. Dally is another story entirely. I love his defensive presence and how he teaches the young guys. If we can keep him for a reasonable salary, I would be good with that. But man his offense is offensive.
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Section 214
Garcia is the best 3pt shooter on the team —SavageBeast
Completely agree but, I would like to see Garcia’s FG% for the final 2 minutes of close games. He just isn’t clutch enough IMO to be taking shots in a close game where you need every possession to count.
Cisco is the clutchest shooter we have...by far
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your foot was on the line when you typed that reply…
Cisco is the clutchest shooter we have…by far
on a team stats basis, the protege, Omri Casspi, is a shade under Cisco on 3pt%. I was surprised to see Beno down in the mid 20s this season as last year he seemed to connect on more 3s than anyone and with some consistency (37.7%)
by betweentheeyes on Dec 5, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
He (Beno) shot the 3 very poorly in the early going and seemed to have lost his confidence in it
Last few games he’s been returning too form; 2 made threes last night I think.
before Casspi went
from starter to bench player to DNP-CD, he had two or three games where he scored a lot in the 4th.
One game, against Cleveland, he almost carried the team on offense.
But memories are short-lived, I guess.
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Try 82games.com
They have clutch stats. Too few clutch opportunities to draw any conclusions for this season though.
Now in Sactown
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 5, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
Are you kidding me???
Cisco has made so many big shots the last 3 years during clutch time. He is cold blooded!!
Agreed but
They are usually to end one of the first 3 quarters or to beat the shot clock but, they are never to win the game or in the final minute of a close game.
Seems that way to me anyway IDK.
I seem to remember a few games where Cisco actually did hit tying or go-ahead baskets in the fourth
One I remember is a corner three against the Grizzlies off of a Salmons drive and another one that same year against the Nets, so yes, Garcia is pretty clutch.
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This season
We haven’t had many close games, opportunities for someone to be clutch.
Of those, I would guess that Cisco was on the floor for maybe half.
You have to give him the opportunity to be clutch before you say he isn’t.
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by LeaguePassAddict on Dec 5, 2010 8:11 PM PST up reply actions
I hope this
I don’t know if Carl has much of a future on this team right now, and if I was a betting man, I don’t think he’ll be on this team after the trade deadline. Perhaps sooner.
Comes to fruition. He has value in this league, and I hope we can move him for a veteran PG. I’m certainly not impressed with his play this year and don’t see how he fits on the team if he’s not scoring down low.
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I agree with Mullin on espn on that last play....
…respect to Chandler. Consider how long Chandler has been in the league and how many teams he played for…man, what are the chances of the Kings holding on to Boogie and Whiteside for that long to see them as finished products?
by getPGwithbounce on Dec 5, 2010 11:14 AM PST reply actions
Does it take a rocket scientist?
I’ve been so pisses watching Luther Head, and to a lesser extent Samuel Dalembert start games. Beno and Tyreke are a great duo and OBVIOUSLY give the Kings the best chance to win. WHATYAKNOW! Tyreke and Beno played most of the game, and the times they were playing together, the Kings were beating one of the best teams in the league.
Once Assphal started playing with the lineup toward the end of the game, the Kings started losing it. HELLO! And has he ever even considered brief rests for players before the ends of quarters to allow for the best players to get rests? Then you play them at the start of the next quarter. Assphal literally played Tyreke without any rest until near the end of the 3rd quarter and then didn’t put him in until the end of the 4th! AAAAAHHHHH!!!
Landry should start too. He plays like a star when he starts and is a dud when he doesn’t. He can score around the basket. JT can’t. Obviously Cousins and Beno in the starting 5 and playing most of the game is what has to happen. Rocket science I guess. Westphal cost the team several wins by implementing that asinine “defensive” starting 5.
Totally agree with you about Landry
He’s never, ever, ever, ever ever succeeded coming off the bench. It’s ridiculous to even think about. Ever.
seriously about Landry however
I don’t think starting or not matters to him. He hasn’t been successful because he’s not getting the ball near the basket- I don’t have a clue if this is on him not fighting for deep position, his teammates not looking for him when he has it, or what. Last night it seemed like most of the time he touched the ball he was at the top of the three-point line…wtf?
What?
When we traded for Landry he was coming off the bench in Houston and working on 6th man of the year. You seem to say both things in these two comments (?).
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by lietothegirls on Dec 5, 2010 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
I think pipe's comment was meant a bit differently.
I fear you have fell into the chasm of Mr. Pipe lttg.
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by lietothegirls on Dec 5, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions
funny moment at arco
in the 4th quarter as the mavs were closing in, the nicest old lady behind me (she had to be in her 60s) screamed “westphal get ur head outta ur ass”
that SLAYED me.. i had to shake her hand
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by Eddie Gonzalez on Dec 5, 2010 12:10 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Beno got screwed on at least two of those fouls Aykis mentioned
hand right on the ball – no doubt.
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Yep
But he does it often enough where he doesn’t have his hand on the ball that refs call it.
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well, at least we know they are capable of competing against an elite NBA team
I was concerned that the Kings could no longer hold up against ANYONE in the league. So last night’s loss was very promising. Although I can’t help but wonder if the Kings will even make it to 10 wins this season. All in all, I feel as though we have seriously regressed from last year, which is not good.
Then there is the Arco situation. I feel so sorry for Sacramento! I’m in so-cal, so I won’t be around to watch things unfold..but that situation does not look good either. Sorry to sound pessimistic :-/
by Kaylee19 on Dec 5, 2010 12:48 PM PST reply actions
the Kings will even make it to 10 wins this season
In a season that went completely wrong every which way for the Nets, they managed to make it 12 rather easily. It’s nearly impossible to win 9 games anymore. That 72-73 Sixer team was the perfect storm of complete suck.
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just a funny line
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by betweentheeyes on Dec 5, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
I was trying to channel my inner Ziller.
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this is definitely what we (kings fans) want to see
even though we didnt get that W, they still showed that they have that competitive spirit and mind to win this game. This team showed also that they can take their game to the next level. as a kings fan, this is what i want them to be.
One thing Jason Ross said in the radio and stuck with me
and I’m paraphrasing here, but after about 4 calls blaming PW for the loss and everyone talking about how Donte should’ve played more and how the coach didn’t have the right guys out there for the last play he said:
“I love getting these calls because we appreciate everyone that wants their opinion out there, but to me, it’s kinda sad that we’re talking about what didn’t happen instead of focusing on what ACTUALLY happened on the court and how for one night we watch a good basketball performance by the Kings”
I thought it was a pretty telling quote in terms of where this team is at and how it is judged by some in this specific point in time
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by edm7 on Dec 5, 2010 1:28 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Some see it as the glass half empty and others see it as half full.
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Like you Ed...
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A few more wins
and that probably wouldn’t be happening (as much)
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by lietothegirls on Dec 5, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
Remember the years when Rick Adelman couldn't seem to make Chris Webber become a hyper super stud in the post?
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We were at the game and had a great time
a really entertaining game. That is probably what the team should have been shooting for this year, competitive and entertaining, not turning into the Celtics overnight.
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How entertaining would it have been is Kidd doesn't go 1-8 from three
and the Kings don’t shoot 58% for three. What do you think the odds of that happening again are?
Don’t get me wrong I enjoyed the game too. But, you had to know that the hot shooting wasn’t going to last too long. I just hope it’s a sign that we’re going to start shooting somewhat higher than our current 32% from threes.
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3 pt shooters miss all the time
and Kidd hasn’t much of anything but 3’s this year.
I’m going to whine about the officiating for a minute: No fouls by Dallas in the last 9:42 of the game – really? Beno blocked the ball out of Terry’s hand but the bad call resulted in two FTs and points for Dallas. The bad call on the 24 second shot clock immediately after that, where the ball was nowhere near the rim, cost another 2 points at the other end of the floor. The 1:45 mark where Chandler threw Cousins down going after a rebound. The 1:16 mark, Cousins is going up the shot in the paint and Kidd puts a hand on his shoulder from behind resulting in a fastbreak the other direction.
Say the Kings were lucky to be in this game all you want, and point to one player on Dallas who missed a lot of shots but – players miss shots – and the Kings played well enough that without some help the score could easily have been turned around in the last few minutes.
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by lietothegirls on Dec 5, 2010 5:45 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I feel that the team has trouble
Developing chemistry when Carl is on the floor, because if he gets stopped then he isn’t a good enough passer to find open teammates. Just my personal opinion.
Then we should have shortened him to "Boobichowdersmith" instead of "Peja".
by cwebbisboss1 on Dec 5, 2010 2:47 PM PST via mobile reply actions
He wasn't last night anyway
and as others have said, I’m not really sure why he was on the floor. PW must have believed that as a vet he would redeem himself with a play at some point I guess.
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by lietothegirls on Dec 5, 2010 5:47 PM PST up reply actions
Most coaches, if not all, are like that lttg.
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I am reading a lot of negative Landry stuff - not sure it is all fair
I am really not a fan either way with this guy. I guess I would say this about what happened last night. They were ready for Landry and knew exactly how to stop him. They knew that when he gets the ball he will be trying to score and were well coached on how to defend against him.
The Mavs had two very tall guys, Dirk and Haywood, collapse on him. They even brought in the SF as well. When 2-3 collapse on your low post scorer it is not going to go well and it didn’t. I think in this case it is more on the coaches than the player.
They ran the plays even though this was going on and there wasn’t much Landry could do about it. Given that they had Landry so wrapped up defensively PW should have had JT in the last 6 minutes.
IMO, that was really the only major flaw in the game last night.
I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...
He needed to take the open jumper - not run into that crowd around the rim.
He was terrible last night in so many ways that it’s hard to defend him.
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by lietothegirls on Dec 5, 2010 5:49 PM PST up reply actions
The things is...
How much of that was PW calling that particular play? They run the plays the coach calls out. Were they trying to draw fouls? I don’t get it.
I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...
PW said after the game
That the play was for him to get it to Reke, a ‘give and go’, but Cousins thought Reke was covered so he ad libbed.
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by lietothegirls on Dec 5, 2010 11:55 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah I don't think that was Landry running a play
By the way, PW is kind of screwed if he did or didn’t on that last play. What I mean is, if he brings in Donte just for the last play one would think “What the hell? Now you bring him in? Guy is completely cold.” Keep Landry in, he looks like a fool too.
Of course, he probably could have avoided that if he subbed donte or JT in earlier in the 4th instead of letting Landry play through the suck.
I predict JT will never breathe through his nose.
Good analysis
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You can understand why he was in though
Yeah, he wasn’t playing well, and now we say JT should’ve been in instead (I agree with this), but the fact is Landry IS probably our most consistent/reliable scorer this season, and it was a play to score, so Westphal was probably playing to offensive percentages.
I can live with that. But he shouldn’t have had it at all in that play. Perhaps he was in knowing that Dirk and Haywood would collapse on him, meaning an open shooter (Cisco). Who knows.
Plenty of Ifs and Buts, like I said before it’s losses like these (GAMES LIKE THESE, not losing to teams that should be below us) that need to happen for our development.
Can’t dwell on past now, hopefully Kings bring in this play to Clipps, and get some retribution!!!
I get the vet and big time scorer part
but how often in all the games that he’s played with the Kings, has Landry gotten the ball beyond the arc and scored?
Set a pick on Dirk and let Carl take a 14 ft jumper , OK that sounds like a good plan.
Have Carl cut baseline and get a pass in the paint from Cuz or Evans, works for me too.
Having a guy who NEVER takes a 3 stand in the corner, and your just letting the defense have one less player to worry about.
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Just in passing, at one point during a timeout last night Fresh led the crowd in a rocking- really loud- DE-FENSE chant
Turned out the Kings had the ball, and we’d all been inadvertently cheering for the Mavs. I put this entire loss on Fresh.
by lead_pipe on Dec 5, 2010 6:43 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
OH YEAH HAHAHAHAHA
I remember that crap. It was after the bullsh*t 24 second violation. We were laughing our butts off in the media section.
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For real?
That’s hilarious. Epic fail.
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Improvement but it hurt losing it
Learning experience, I’ll take it given what has transpired already.
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