Post-Game Thread: Kings 91, Clippers 98
by Aykis16 on Dec 6, 2010 10:23 PM PST
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Well...
I"m extremely depressed. Thats for sure.
Sometimes you just have to look yourself in the mirror and say....Tyreke Evans.
That just happened.
You're kidding right?
Brennan Huff: I have a belly full of white dog crap in me, and now you lay this shit on me?
They have beaten the Spurs, Thunder and Rockets
And the Kings twice.
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Still only 5 wins
Brennan Huff: I have a belly full of white dog crap in me, and now you lay this shit on me?
That's what counts in the end.
Brennan Huff: I have a belly full of white dog crap in me, and now you lay this shit on me?
you have to look outside the box
all young teams improve with team. thankfully ours is included in that list
by huntingtrees on Dec 6, 2010 10:30 PM PST up reply actions
Which is why they are underrated
Do you not know what that term means? They are better than their record.
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And also
they have been w/o Kaman and Baron Davis much of the season. The Clips are better than their record.
I predict JT puts up 7 and 5 this year - Aug '10. (Current: 6.0 Pts 5 Rebs)
Not to be rude.
The Rockets haven’t managed to lose to the Clippers yet this season.
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Hmm I thought it was the Rockets, now I'll have to check.
It was the Hornets for their first loss of the season.
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gordon, blake and baron are some very good pieces. kaman and smith aren't bad either
by huntingtrees on Dec 6, 2010 10:29 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not denying they don't have a bright future but they're not a good team right now I don't care what you say.
Brennan Huff: I have a belly full of white dog crap in me, and now you lay this shit on me?
yeah well i can agree with that at least
by huntingtrees on Dec 6, 2010 10:32 PM PST up reply actions
Cool.
I wish we had Blake Griffin.
Brennan Huff: I have a belly full of white dog crap in me, and now you lay this shit on me?
That game reke'd.
It was also Dalemberrasing.
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by White Brocklate on Dec 6, 2010 10:27 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
I'm not as bummed about losing anymore
Just adopt that old Cubs mantra, someday, the team will improve and win these kind of games.
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You realize how long the slump has been for the Cubbies right?
Brennan Huff: I have a belly full of white dog crap in me, and now you lay this shit on me?
Just like they hope next year is the year
You can easily forget the history.
Live in the present, live for the future.
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by Hit4TheCycle on Dec 6, 2010 10:31 PM PST up reply actions
Nice mantra.
Brennan Huff: I have a belly full of white dog crap in me, and now you lay this shit on me?
Mitch Who?
More like Pooh.
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by Hit4TheCycle on Dec 6, 2010 10:31 PM PST up reply actions
Why?
Fans keep saying this. He looks healthy. He just played like shit.
I predict JT puts up 7 and 5 this year - Aug '10. (Current: 6.0 Pts 5 Rebs)
Why is it that other guys that play like shit get DNPs?
Does Tyreke have pictures of Westphal and Petrie doing something they shouldn’t be doing? Why is this guy so untouchable? I just don’t get it.
"I think more than a coaching change is needed. I think an overall front office cleaning should precede any coaching changes. Anyone up for letting Petrie move on and letting Pritchard take his spot?"
Well
He’s probably talent wise our best player…
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Thank you for the reality check
You can bench him, but you don’t give him a damn DNP. Jeez louise, talk about some of the dumbest stuff I’ve seen in a while.
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No, that's Cousins.
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I agree.
He can do everything. I can see him averaging Webber’s or Garnett’s 25-12-5 in 3 years.
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by caseycheesecake on Dec 7, 2010 7:48 AM PST up reply actions
I would be pretty damn stunned if that ever happened
I predict JT will never breathe through his nose.
Which part
would be the hardest do you think?
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by caseycheesecake on Dec 7, 2010 8:52 AM PST up reply actions
I dunno, probably the assists and then the points
he really needs to work on his conditioning to be able to score efficiently enough to get to 25 a game. He needs more lift to convert at a higher percentage. Either way though, have a real hard time seeing him reach that apex, hitting all three of those numbers at once.
I predict JT will never breathe through his nose.
True...
He won’t be able to handle all the minutes he would need to score 25 while shooting 40%. But I also see a sharp increase in FG% in the next 2 years.
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by caseycheesecake on Dec 7, 2010 7:16 PM PST up reply actions
No Tyreke Evans is by far & away the most talented player on the Kings.
It’s not really close.
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Last year Tyreke was the Layup King
This year he is the Kings rally killer.
"I think more than a coaching change is needed. I think an overall front office cleaning should precede any coaching changes. Anyone up for letting Petrie move on and letting Pritchard take his spot?"
Sadly, I have to agree
That play at the end where they couldn’t get the fast break points but got the rebound and kicked it out to him for him just to sit there (With his hand on his hip?!) for the entire shot-clock just to throw up a terrible shot? He is really starting to make me say WTF! too much lately
Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!
by prowseinthehouse on Dec 6, 2010 10:32 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
This has really been the most frustrating part of the season for me. Tyreke has taken a step back and is playing worse than last year.
I expected the opposite. I had really high hopes that the jumper would improve, he would know what to expect, and we would see some growth. Instead, defenses seem to have caught up with him and are now packing the paint, daring him to shoot the jumper (which unfortunately, he has been doing).
So...
Any good prospects for the number four pick this year?
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by White Brocklate on Dec 6, 2010 10:28 PM PST reply actions
Hopefully its the #1 for once.
Brennan Huff: I have a belly full of white dog crap in me, and now you lay this shit on me?
hahahahahahahaha
Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!
by prowseinthehouse on Dec 6, 2010 10:35 PM PST up reply actions
NBA bylaw 15-subparagph 2
The Kings shall not receive the #1 pick unless there is no visible, consensus #1 pick in said draft.
Jeter had the Kings running and energized
and Tyreke came in and sucked the life out of the team. The “me-first” blueprint has run its course.
"I think more than a coaching change is needed. I think an overall front office cleaning should precede any coaching changes. Anyone up for letting Petrie move on and letting Pritchard take his spot?"
Eh
The Kings haven’t been able to execute to close out games all season. I doubt Jeter would have changed that.
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I'd love to have found out
"I think more than a coaching change is needed. I think an overall front office cleaning should precede any coaching changes. Anyone up for letting Petrie move on and letting Pritchard take his spot?"
Pooh Jeter is not a long-term answer for this team
But it should tell the franchise something about an effective style of play.
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by otis29 on Dec 7, 2010 6:20 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
This is a really good point
Playing good defense and getting out and running was awesome.
I had to rub my eyes when I watched Omri score a couple of easy buckets on the break, “Wait! Did we just score in transition? What the hell?”
I know what I'll do
I’m gonna go change the Manna Meter to something else.
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Tyreke vs. Curry vs. Jennings meter.
All having kinda off years, right?
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by White Brocklate on Dec 6, 2010 10:32 PM PST up reply actions
Curry has been tearing it up so far.
Brennan Huff: I have a belly full of white dog crap in me, and now you lay this shit on me?
What on earth
are you talking about?!?!
Reke is the only one of the group sufferring a statistical down year!
Kings
Pooh was awesome. It’s funny that Bill Walton said that the Kings need to go to Cousins more and need to replace Beno during the game, they do it, and the comeback started. Pooh really got the offense started early, and who said small guys cant play good defense. He was a pest out their.
DG looks like PW shattered his fragile confidence by benching him sunday night. Not saying PW was wrong, just an observation.
Omri, Pooh, DMC were hot. in comes Tyreke - everybody gets cold !!!
He is so selfish, it is unbelieveablr. Pw is to blame , though – ’cause he should "nagg" him all day about that.
PaSS the Fu^&ng ball !!!
PW is to blame for everything
FIRE HIM NOW!!!! Right cowboyron?
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by SavageBeast on Dec 6, 2010 10:36 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I blame PW too!
How can he let them shoot so bad from the FT line! It should be him up their shooting FT’s!
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Thats what got Adelman fired isn't it?
Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!
by prowseinthehouse on Dec 6, 2010 10:45 PM PST up reply actions
I thought it was game fixing.
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by Xiane on Dec 6, 2010 10:47 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Adelman got fired? I wasn't aware...
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Tyreke is no longer untradeable.
The only king not on the trade block is Cousins.
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by White Brocklate on Dec 6, 2010 10:32 PM PST reply actions
Lebron James
Straight up.
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DWade + Bosh!?
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I wouldn't go this far quite yet
Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!
by prowseinthehouse on Dec 6, 2010 10:33 PM PST up reply actions
Even as pissed as I am,
I don’t buy that. Reke when he’s healthy, in full attack mode, is awesome.
I’m pissed at the guy right now not because of his sucky shooting (which happens), but poor decision making. All those criticisms about not knowing a playbook… well, Reke seems to be a likely suspect now.
This.
Yep
He sucks right now. He’s also still the most talented player on the roster, even if that talent isn’t being tapped currently.
Oh, and he’s 21. It amazes me that guys like NEK bitch about the lack of talent on this roster, but want to get rid of the most talented young player we have when he’s in a rough stretch – to allow more playing time for the Pooh Jeters of the world.
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Otis
How is Tyreke the most talented player on our roster? His shot stinks, his decision making stinks, he can only drive to his right with any consistency and he isnt our strongest defender. Ill take Cousins over Reke any day. At least he plays with some joy and passion.
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Yes, all that is true for EIGHTEEN games in his second season
He’s also the guy that won the ROY last year. Should I ignore the entirety of last season and view that as an aberration in lieu of the small sample of games this season?
Here’s my take on Tyreke – he’s lost right now. I think he and the team felt he was going to need to add a consistent outside shot to his repertoire to improve himself in the long term. And that change hasn’t really stuck at this point – he’s torn right now between forcing the jumper to keep the defenses honest and doing what he knows he does best (but is more predictable).
And I damn sure think he’s dealing with injuries to the foot and ankle area that are hindering him a bit.
So yes, I think he’s still the most talented player on the team, and I don’t think it’s all that close.
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by otis29 on Dec 7, 2010 9:52 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
I feel you
on the lost part. I think he is struggling with expanding his IQ and his offensive repertoire. I keep hearing he is injured yet he seems to still play with a quickness and explosion that most others don’t posses. Why doesn’t he sit and heal if the injuries are that bad? I would assume he doesn’t want to be playing injured especially if this is the result.
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You shouldn't be amazed by NEK's ability to stretch anything to fit his delusion.
Of all people, you should know nothing is beyond him.
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Yea let's trade him because he has had a bad start to this season.
That totally makes sense! Are fu**ing kidding me? You probably also wanted to trade KMart because he was not playing well along Tyreke!
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Casspi had a nice game
Him and Jeter have a nice connection on the court. It’s fun to watch them push the ball. That’s the way we should be playing, but our starters can’t do that. Pound, pound, pound the ball, then launch a bullshit shot.
"I think more than a coaching change is needed. I think an overall front office cleaning should precede any coaching changes. Anyone up for letting Petrie move on and letting Pritchard take his spot?"
Don't trade him - bench him somewhat, teach him, get in his veins about team play
I say again, he is more harm then good if Pw fails to teach him some team play.
Oh my God. I can't believe what I'm seeing tonight.
First the game, then these comments.
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idk. super sign and trade three way deal to bring melo to the kings.
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by White Brocklate on Dec 6, 2010 10:34 PM PST reply actions
i mean cmon, if someone gave the right price you would trade reke, right?
Other than maybe dwight howard idk who I would trade cousins for
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by White Brocklate on Dec 6, 2010 10:35 PM PST up reply actions
sign and trade though
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by White Brocklate on Dec 6, 2010 10:35 PM PST up reply actions
well tell him hes going to the heat for Carlos Arroyo.
and then trade him to the kings the next day. the only way to get someone to sac is to force him. Just like with Webber.
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by White Brocklate on Dec 6, 2010 10:38 PM PST up reply actions
Nobody is stupid enough to give us real players for Tyreke and Cousins
They want to win, too, not be destined to a life sentence in the NBA basement.
"I think more than a coaching change is needed. I think an overall front office cleaning should precede any coaching changes. Anyone up for letting Petrie move on and letting Pritchard take his spot?"
Clearly not
"You can have the knowledge that a tomato is a fruit, but it takes wisdom not to put it in a fruit salad." Jerry Reynolds
Sure am
Name a playoff team Tyreke or Cousins would start for.
"I think more than a coaching change is needed. I think an overall front office cleaning should precede any coaching changes. Anyone up for letting Petrie move on and letting Pritchard take his spot?"
Why do we need to compare ourselves to playoff teams?
Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!
by prowseinthehouse on Dec 6, 2010 10:53 PM PST up reply actions
How are you able to get your computer turned on?
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by otis29 on Dec 7, 2010 6:26 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
As of today
Tyreke
Orlando
Miami
Atlanta
New York
Toronto
Indiana
Maybe Dallas
Redacted
DMC
Maybe Boston
Miami
New York
Toronto
OKC
What real players might you want for Cousins?
Picks perhaps?
Let us know in Houston, we think Yao and Cousins would be amusing.
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I don't remember being this depressed during our 17 win season
but I have tried to forget is, so maybe I was.
by spragueito on Dec 6, 2010 10:34 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
It was horrible
but memory fades . . . .
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by lietothegirls on Dec 6, 2010 11:32 PM PST up reply actions
That was awful
The 17 win season was worse because I looked up and down at the roster and saw no one but Kmart as a keeper. It was like, “Where do you start?”
Fire Westphal
Pooh was doing fine but no Beno until 16 seconds left in the 4th? Beno is consistent. He stuck with the lineup until he didn’t. His slogan is “I stick with the lineup that’s effective until I don’t”…. Fire Assphal, the team hates him. I hate him. Pepperdine hates him.
The roster is very good. They need a very good guard and some glue guys like Udoka. And a coach.
Beno was absolutely terrible tonight
He shouldn’t have come in.
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Actually
Beno was playing terribly, and it wasn’t until he came out that they started playing well. Not saying this is normally the case, but it definitely was today
Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!
by prowseinthehouse on Dec 6, 2010 10:38 PM PST up reply actions
oh god
one can only wonder what will happen when it fills up
by huntingtrees on Dec 6, 2010 10:39 PM PST up reply actions
The play where Tyreke Fouled Gordon near the end of the game
Tyreke did something similiar to Gilbert Arenas and managed to steal the ball. Had Evans been able to do that, I’m sure the sentiment about that decision would be a little different here.
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That was in the middle of the court though
He had more space to roam. He caught Gordon in the corner and just smacked him.
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Aw
I was writing this just as you posted
Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!
by prowseinthehouse on Dec 6, 2010 10:40 PM PST up reply actions
but I was going to add
that he was just going to knock it out of bounds
Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!
by prowseinthehouse on Dec 6, 2010 10:40 PM PST up reply actions
Unlikely
That given 100 attempts at that very play would he steal that ball from Gordon. Furthermore to burn THAT much time and then foul was ridiculous. Poor decision making defensively AND offensively tonight by Reke
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Had tyreke fouled arenas instead, i think it would have mattered less with the score. Tonight it was foolish to go for the steal.
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by White Brocklate on Dec 6, 2010 10:40 PM PST up reply actions
The difference with that Arenas play was
The Kings were up, and he was actually playing defense. Here he let Gordon go right past him and then just swiped at him halfheartedly.
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Totally different play.
Evans stole it from Arenas as he was making a move. Gordan was just standing there.
I'm glad most of the commenters here have absolutely no power over what happens with the Kings franchise
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by Neil Manich on Dec 6, 2010 10:38 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
That is true
they are more impulsive than Westphal
Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!
by prowseinthehouse on Dec 6, 2010 10:39 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Never. That's not possible.
Brennan Huff: I have a belly full of white dog crap in me, and now you lay this shit on me?
I did like his decision to switch to zone
when the Kings were getting destroyed playing man defense. It seemed like they did much better defensively after that
Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!
by prowseinthehouse on Dec 6, 2010 10:41 PM PST up reply actions
I didn't mean that he didn't coach well today, I meant that us fans could never be as impulsive as him.
It was a bad joke.
Brennan Huff: I have a belly full of white dog crap in me, and now you lay this shit on me?
seriously
I predict JT will never breathe through his nose.
by wallywagon11 on Dec 6, 2010 10:44 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, because we're in such great hands
"I think more than a coaching change is needed. I think an overall front office cleaning should precede any coaching changes. Anyone up for letting Petrie move on and letting Pritchard take his spot?"
How do you know one of us isn't the secret str personification of geoff petrie?
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by White Brocklate on Dec 6, 2010 10:48 PM PST up reply actions
What happened to the shooting that the Kings had against the Mavs?
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Positives
-The only person stopping Demarcus Cousins on the block is Demarcus Cousins. You watch him play and see that all he needs to do really is slow down. Its only a matter of WHEN not IF he averages 20/10 in this league
-Pooh showed what a change of pace guard really looks like
-Overall, I’m not too dissatisfied with the coaching in this game. It seems like Westphal has no idea who will do what on a game to game basis. But if Demarcus is showing what he’s gonna do for the rest of the season, thats one thing to build off of. Rotations were pretty decent today.
by Scirocco on Dec 6, 2010 10:39 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
They'll get there, the Kings have some nice peices, they just need time is all.
Frustrating for the fans though.
Brennan Huff: I have a belly full of white dog crap in me, and now you lay this shit on me?
There are flashes of talent
This isn’t the 2009 team which was just dead from beginning to end. This team has talent. Its just that seemingly nobody has put two good games together in a row.
Tyreke has been up and down, Beno has been up and down, the Donte/Omri carousel continues, Landry has been up and down, Demarcus might finally be getting it after a learning curve, JT has been up and down….
I mean from top to bottom, young guys to veterans, we have no idea what we will get from anybody
by Scirocco on Dec 6, 2010 10:48 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Very true.
Brennan Huff: I have a belly full of white dog crap in me, and now you lay this shit on me?
agree on cousins
he is so close to having those shots drop. when they do watch out.. he’s going to be a beast.
If Big Cuz
was in better shape, he’d get more lift around the basket and finish those moves. He needs to bring his body fat down like Roy Hibbert did, and he is going to be a major star.
I kind of disagree he needs to slow down, with the exception of the tendency to travel. He plays at a smart pace. He reads the defense, then attacks. When he hesitates too much with his post moves, thats how he gets picked. Overall he has done better job of protecting the ball of late. I like the way he is coming along. He belongs in the starting lineup and don’t ever expect him to relinquish that spot. I just want to see him shed about 10-15 pounds of body fat without losing any muscle. Then he is going to be terrific.
I predict JT puts up 7 and 5 this year - Aug '10. (Current: 6.0 Pts 5 Rebs)
He does get himself out of control at times because he's taking it to the basket too quickly
You can still be quick and quicker than your defender without losing your body control.
Rather than all those 15-18 foot drives, i’d rather see him repost. I think the only time he should be getting the basket that far from the rim, is when we run the offense thru him in the high post. Then he should pass or take the midrange jumper more often then he drives to the rim.
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Agreed
Huge Positive—We ran the offense through Demarcus (rather than just letting Tyreke pound the ball at the top of the key).
Huge Positive—We used back picks, and we were getting Demarcus the ball down low (as opposed to 15 feet from the basket)
Huge Positive—Demarcus was taking good shots and finding teammates.
I don’t even care that he missed a few shots in close. They were good shots. Missing good shots is way better than taking bad ones. This was actually a big step forward in my book, and I think PW deserves some credit for making some subtle but effective changes.
I only want to fire westphal
if we can hire nelly.
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by White Brocklate on Dec 6, 2010 10:43 PM PST reply actions
???
really?
Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!
by prowseinthehouse on Dec 6, 2010 10:44 PM PST up reply actions
hey we're going for tickets right?
it would be fun and the offense wouldn’t suck. right now everything sucks.
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by White Brocklate on Dec 6, 2010 10:46 PM PST up reply actions
I'm going for a good long-term team
the tickets will sell as a result of that
Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!
by prowseinthehouse on Dec 6, 2010 10:48 PM PST up reply actions
yeah but kings are thinking of leaving now. if kings hired nelly now, they wouldn't leave for the next couple years.
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by White Brocklate on Dec 6, 2010 10:49 PM PST up reply actions
The only people I have heard talk about the Kings leaving
have been the fans. I’ll lose my faith in the Maloofs when they give me a reason to
Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!
by prowseinthehouse on Dec 6, 2010 10:51 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Well said.
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by AnotherStupidSN on Dec 7, 2010 5:38 AM PST up reply actions
Nelly ball.
No thanks.
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That's funny.
Nelson retired 3 years ago.
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So you want Tyreke playing the PF position under Nelly?
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Pooh Cisco Casspi Tyreke Donte.
haha tyreke and donte are only slightly undersized for pf and center.
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by White Brocklate on Dec 6, 2010 10:50 PM PST up reply actions
Kings hiring Nelly would be like
49ers hiring Mike Martz. Maybe the potential to be exciting but baaaaaad idea for the future.
by 8thInningWeirdness on Dec 6, 2010 11:20 PM PST up reply actions
The st louis rap scene is kinda played out
Quite frankly “hot in here” was overrated
I disagree with your plan
by lchristmas on Dec 7, 2010 12:02 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Tyreke
won me over last year with his amazing plays, but I honestly cant say I have seen an ounce of growth in his game, or in his decision making.
I think that is where this frustration with him comes from with him is we were all expecting him to take a step or two forward and frankly he has taken several steps back. Its nerve wrecking to watch him at the top of the key anymore. Just boils you with frustration to watch DMC fight for position and Reke just stands there and pounds the ball, then takes a bad shot or turns it over.
Just incredibly frustrated with him this year. Dont think we trade him unless its for a great young point guard like Russel Westbrook, but we know thats no happening!
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Reke for westbrook?
i might look into that.
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by White Brocklate on Dec 6, 2010 10:47 PM PST up reply actions
The Thunder wouldn't touch that.
They aren’t crazy.
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speaking of thunder
remember we could have had scott brooks?
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by White Brocklate on Dec 6, 2010 10:51 PM PST up reply actions
One other thing
I would like to add is that its GREAT to see Pooh & DeMarcus show some energy and passion for the game. Omri had it too tonight and it just shows how well this team can play when they have a little fire and personality.
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Reke,
While an amazingly gifted player basketball player wasn’t necessarily gifted in the area of basketball IQ
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by nothingbutnet on Dec 6, 2010 10:55 PM PST up reply actions
It's his kryponite right now
"You can have the knowledge that a tomato is a fruit, but it takes wisdom not to put it in a fruit salad." Jerry Reynolds
Not a Kings expert at all.
But I’m wondering a bit about the Tyreke Evans ecosystem. First he can’t thrive with Kevin Martin, no one’s idea of a domineering teammate, whatever else you might think of him. Now he can’t coexist with: Cousins, Landry, Thompson, because his game and theirs don’t mesh. But two of those guys are classic post players. One of them is a textbook kind of SG in many ways. One is a mobile athletic big. So, who CAN he co-exist with?
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Valid points
Were asking them ourselves right now and unfortunately I don’t think any of us has a good answer.
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Hey Xiane - what do you mean by ecosystem?
It’s the players job to keep the coach happy, not the coach’s job to keep the player happy. - Paul Westphal quoted from The Purple Panjandrum
Just trying to be funny.
What I mean is – his style of play.
There’s no questions he’s tremendously talented and skilled, but who fits with with him, and how?
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Guys who like running the floor without getting the ball
Big men who don’t mind posting up and not getting the ball
Big men who don’t know how to run pick and roll because that ain’t how we do it
Guys who can hit a jumper after receiving a bailout pass with 2 seconds on the shot clock (also must withstand criticism well for “costing reke an assist” in this situation)
by lchristmas on Dec 7, 2010 12:18 AM PST via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
Tyreke is going to have to adjust Xiane
That’s what it is going to come down to. Like someone said, last year the Kings needed him to do everything. This year he needs to learn to trust his teammates and he hasn’t been doing that during some stretches in games. That hurts the team and he needs to realize that and adjust accordingly.
Tyreke is an special talent but he needs to grow up as a player and person, just like all these young guys. What happened last year was no fluke and he will eventually get it right.
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by edm7 on Dec 6, 2010 10:53 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
right on ed
I hope Reke was watching when Pooh came in and just turned the team on. He was playing like a pg, was finding his players, was playing with some fire, was playing d and playing like the game mattered to him and he almost helped the team win the game. Pooh, Omri and Cuz were playing like they were listening to Walton.
It’s the players job to keep the coach happy, not the coach’s job to keep the player happy. - Paul Westphal quoted from The Purple Panjandrum
That seems right to me. But someone needs to tell him his job is to make Cousins a star.
If he does that, his offense will come incredibly easily.
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Yes, it will
But I bet it’s hard letting go. He NEEDS to learn that and then, and only then, he’ll take that next step. I’m not worried about the jumpshot, or the fading away, or the bad defense as much as the mental aspect of the game. It’s also true that he hasn’t shown a great ball IQ. As a 21-22 year old kid who has already had success in the league, he’s just going to have to adjust, learn, and grow. Kings fans are looking forward to that. I know you can differentiate who knows this and who doesn’t.
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by edm7 on Dec 6, 2010 11:01 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with this
He HAS to adjust. This is a league that feasts on one’s mistakes, and it’s becoming more and more evident, as Cousins begins to become more consistent in the post, that Evans will have to learn when to defer and when not to.
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It's a learning process and Cuz growing as a player will also help Tyreke
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
Each passing game shows me Tyreke needs to learn how to find Cuz in the P&R
Good things can happen. He’s been finding Landry lately a few times on it, which is great; but Cuz can make better decisions with the ball and find players if he can’t get a shot off, while Landry just has tunnel vision when he has the ball.
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If Chauncey Billups was judged on his success as a 22 year old..
….he might be living on the streets in Denver or somewhere else. Just saying.
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What Ed said.
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martin
should have never traded him. right now, kevin is a MUCH better player than evans.
Kevin has more experience though right?
Gotta at least give Tyreke as much time as Martin before you can realistically say that.
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Not sure I agree.
It looks like Evans is basically torn between trying to be a for-real PG, and being what made him ROY. He’s too much of a pounder to ever be a great passing PG, even though he can make great passes – like Aaron Brooks in that respect.
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He's supposed to be a PG, right?
Kidd has no jumper, well he finally learned a set 3pter, in like year 10 of his career.
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PG ?
big questions coming in on whether evans was a point. obviously, he’s not. until he develops a consistent outside shot; he’s going to struggle.
not much of a 2
right now either. His shot is so bad it needs an X-rating so as not to scare little kids!
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If he continues to make improves in his jump shot like he has in the offseason
I’ll take that. Jesus people, it’s 19 games into the season. Stop panicing like we were a contender and have this record. We are a non-playoff team that guess what, isn’t going to make the playoffs. Yes, we all probably thought they were going to be doing better than this, but anyone with a rational mind knew this wasn’t a playoff team.
by HeuristicLineup on Dec 7, 2010 6:54 AM PST up reply actions
Nobody is bitching
about missing the playoffs are they!? Your point is moot.
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Cmon, Xiane, the only play Tyreke wants to run is the 1-4 flat
What does he need teammates for? They are just guys that take his points and fuck up his “blueprint.”
Seriously, though, you ask a great question, but too many here and in the Kings organization are in denial. The fans are “voting,” though, if you’ve seen the empyty seats in Arco lately.
"I think more than a coaching change is needed. I think an overall front office cleaning should precede any coaching changes. Anyone up for letting Petrie move on and letting Pritchard take his spot?"
I'm not saying he's a bad player, he isn't.
But Cousins is The Franchise if all goes well, and Evans is the Other Star player.
They need one play – Pick and Roll. That’s it. Who the hell can defend the two of them on the PNR?
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Tyreke doesn't know how to run the pick and roll
He’s basically Lorenzo Neal playing PG. If you need a two-yard touchdown run, he’s your guy.
"I think more than a coaching change is needed. I think an overall front office cleaning should precede any coaching changes. Anyone up for letting Petrie move on and letting Pritchard take his spot?"
Well, there's your practice schedule then.
Honestly, that’s a terrifying play if they can run it. Worse in a way than Nash/Amare or even the despicable Stockton/Malone.
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It boggles my mind that Reke hasn't found him once on it
Not once. Just the pick and pop, but then that’s not fully taking advantage of what Cousins can do.
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Really?
I would have locked them in a gym this summer and made them run it 5000 times before the season started.
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Well I'm hoping that's what they do next offseason
Unless someone can point out an instance of it occurring, the only people he hits on the pick and roll that I remember are Landry or Reke’s defender.
"You can have the knowledge that a tomato is a fruit, but it takes wisdom not to put it in a fruit salad." Jerry Reynolds
You can't put that all on Tyreke
Cousins sets half ass screens and never does anything after it’s set.
by HeuristicLineup on Dec 7, 2010 6:56 AM PST up reply actions
evans
evans looks awful….he needs a jumper bad. agree with dirkula that it’s pretty frustrating to watch him. HE IS A BALL HOG.
Is it in Landry's contracr
That he has to play entire fourth quartets without getting defensive rebounds?
by MichaelMack on Dec 6, 2010 10:51 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Unbelievable to me
Two games in a row I can’t figure out why he us playing the entire fourth quarter.
by MichaelMack on Dec 6, 2010 10:58 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Top Hat does have the reputation for being a fourth quarter star.
But I guess he wants to shake off that tag.
Perhaps we need to study how he was successful in Houston, and replicate those plays.
This.
Hey Reke haters
If you could go back in time and pick James Harden, would you? Hasheem Thabeet?
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Stephen Curry?
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kings could of had Steph, Casspi, and Dejuan Blair last year.
instead they got Reke, Casspi, Brock, and sergio. If kings had blair last year, this team would look very different now.
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by White Brocklate on Dec 6, 2010 10:55 PM PST up reply actions
And if they had picked Rondo before
they would look completely different too. Why does this matter?
Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!
by prowseinthehouse on Dec 6, 2010 10:57 PM PST up reply actions
Anyone could have had Blair. Only SA had the guts to try it.
That’s why they’re so good.
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And SA had the guts to try it
Because they don’t care about Blair’s long term health outlook, they want to win now, and Blair was the best available impact now guy.
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Ya
people forget he doesn’t have knees
Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!
by prowseinthehouse on Dec 6, 2010 11:02 PM PST up reply actions
It's a pretty good risk with a 2nd rounder.
Any sort of useful player is a win there.
And honestly, there is no long-term answer to Blairs knees, one day they’ll just go. It took John Elway a lot of time leave football with the same problem, so who knows?
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Besides
Why give us the names of guys selected ABOVE Tyreke as options? Pure genius! Lame
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Perspective
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Well fuck!
Ill take Blake Griffin then! Shut up
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by Dirkula on Dec 6, 2010 10:56 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Point is
We had maybe the best draft in the league last year, and you’re ready to kill the reigning rookie of the year after a month of poor play.
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Never said Im ready to kill anyone
Just frustrated with the lack of growth or basketball IQ. I’m sorry if I cant look back at last year as a sign of progress when there has been zero shown since.
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evans
not the point. we should not have run a top 5 shooting guard out of town for a rookie…
by ziggie on Dec 6, 2010 10:56 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
remember everyone criticizing kevin martin at the time too?
landry for k-mart, right now.
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by White Brocklate on Dec 6, 2010 10:59 PM PST up reply actions
got my vote
evans game would improve with martin. he would space the floor. kevin has been very efficient in houston just 15 shots a game. avg 23 pts.
Won't happen, as much as Houston loves Landry.
Martin has his flaws, but he’s been very good for Houston, and management loves him.
Aaron Brooks might be available, though. Or Jermaine Taylor, who might really thrive with playing time. He can score the ball from the SG spot. Don’t let lack of pedigree fool you, think of Matthews in PDX.
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There was alot of behind the door happenings with Martin here though too
which leads me to believe he was going away whether it had anything to do with Tyreke or not. This is something that needs to be kept in mind when putting on our hindsight glasses.
Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!
by prowseinthehouse on Dec 6, 2010 11:22 PM PST up reply actions
No doubt
Martin has been a model citizen in Houston, though.
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He has been here to don't get me wrong
I love me some Martin. I just think there is much more to it than just him and Tyreke not playing well together. Just the fact that he kept his grumblings behind closed doors and not in the media shows what a classy guy he is.
Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!
by prowseinthehouse on Dec 6, 2010 11:26 PM PST up reply actions
don't live in sac
so i am not as in tune. however, all i know is his agent and gp did not get along. but, i agree martin is a pretty classy guy who works hard.
There were alot of rumors
and nobody knows for sure exactly what happened, but ya his agent left with a sour taste in his mouth. I believe he is still the agent for some current players on the roster though too (Casspi?) if I am not mistaken so it wasn’t a complete disaster where business was affected.
Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!
by prowseinthehouse on Dec 6, 2010 11:31 PM PST up reply actions
Basketball
Once we learn it it’s game on
Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!
by prowseinthehouse on Dec 6, 2010 10:55 PM PST up reply actions
good one
but yes, that is like Play#1 in any playbook.
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Maybe they can run it with Pooh
"I think more than a coaching change is needed. I think an overall front office cleaning should precede any coaching changes. Anyone up for letting Petrie move on and letting Pritchard take his spot?"
I kinda wish the kings would go out and overpay some free agent or trade for a bad contract
just to show me the maloofs were still willing to put money into this team. Seriously, when was the last time the kings added serious long-term salary?
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by White Brocklate on Dec 6, 2010 10:58 PM PST reply actions
and I kinda wish you had a comment limit
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by Bluejohn on Dec 6, 2010 10:59 PM PST up reply actions 8 recs
They are waiting for the CBA
they have said that many times. If they blow their money now, all they are doing is ruining the rebuild process
Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!
by prowseinthehouse on Dec 6, 2010 10:59 PM PST up reply actions
Ok
Thats a bit excessive. Why saddle ourselves with a “bad contract” or “Over pay some free agent”? Just so you can feel like the Maloofs are spending money for no f’ing reason? Come on man.
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Plus they did that already
Beno, Cisco, K-9, Noce (I don’t think that was us but whatever), etc…
Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!
by prowseinthehouse on Dec 6, 2010 11:01 PM PST up reply actions
haha im kinda in a ranting mood... goodnight str!
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by White Brocklate on Dec 6, 2010 11:00 PM PST reply actions
How do you pronounce that long word in your sig?
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The more I think about it
The more I think we have a trade set to happen on Dec. 15th.
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Why the 15th?
Brennan Huff: I have a belly full of white dog crap in me, and now you lay this shit on me?
First day to trade free agents signed over the summer
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ahh, thanks
Brennan Huff: I have a belly full of white dog crap in me, and now you lay this shit on me?
Well that's ominous.
What are you thinking?
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JT maybe
We need a guard that can defend in the worst way.
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Not to be rude, but what does Mem do with Landry?
They’ve got Zach Randolph.
Mayo/Henry aren’t a problem. Rookie can always go to the bench.
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Maybe you need the Swedish sailor video again?
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what's that?? anyway, i'm horrified by Aykis16...I may never log onto sactownroyalty again. I thought we were all friendly fans...
i feel offended. :(
by Kaylee19 on Dec 6, 2010 11:36 PM PST up reply actions
That was honestly a joke that wasn't aimed at you at all.
Just something silly I posted a while back.
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Don't mind Aykis
He is actually a really nice guy. You guys should have coffee sometime. I think he owes you.
I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...
Don't be scurred.
Brennan Huff: I have a belly full of white dog crap in me, and now you lay this shit on me?
Is that how the Westphal-DMC argument went down???
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by Rory Sparrow on Dec 6, 2010 11:13 PM PST up reply actions
No
Westphal caught DMC hanging up his jersey with wire coat-hangers
Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!
by prowseinthehouse on Dec 6, 2010 11:13 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Stylistically, I will live with this game from Tyreke every day
Maybe a few less jumpers off the dribble. But its clear right now he isn’t able to finish at the rim like he usually can and just lacks explosiveness to get there in the first place. It doesn’t help that our “shooters” like Beno and Donte bricked everything they threw up today.
Otherwise, Tyreke did what he was supposed to. He’s a second year player suffering from injuries and with four or five guys in the lane because nobody on this team can shoot the ball. Some mental mistakes, but if Reke NEEDS to play this way. He is our star.
Tyreke
was 5-19 shooting, had 1 rebound and 3 assists and made bad decision after bad decision. Now if you said this after last game, I might have agreed more
Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!
by prowseinthehouse on Dec 6, 2010 11:17 PM PST up reply actions
I'm saying stylistically
Tyreke played the way I’d expect him to play. Obviously I’d much rather have him hit his shots and make better decisions with the ball and play better defense. Assists were down because our shooting was god-awful. But beyond that, do you really want Tyreke to stop shooting and attacking?
Stop shooting, start attacking
In an above comment, I talked about a specific play where he single handedly killed a run we had going. Until he can get his shot down I don’t want him taking it in dire situations.
Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!
by prowseinthehouse on Dec 6, 2010 11:28 PM PST up reply actions
"Some mental mistakes, but if Reke NEEDS to play this way. He is our star."
Really? Wow. Good for you. I for one, could NOT live with this sort of play from “our star” any day. More power to ya.
I was uncool before it was cool
Or get his head out of his ass
Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!
by prowseinthehouse on Dec 6, 2010 11:17 PM PST up reply actions
It really was amazing
to see the difference in this team when Pooh was out there moving the ball. Crisp passing, set plays, movement, and Oh yeah, SMILES & PASSION exhibited by the other players on the floor.
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by Dirkula on Dec 6, 2010 11:19 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Guys like to be involved in the offense
they like to be rewarded for running
It’s no coincidence the the worst most unlovable period of the NBA is the one where the ISO play ruled
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Very true
and that is where most of my frustration with Tyreke is right now. His shot will come someday, but he needs to learn NOW to share the ball and reward his team mates for their hustle and defense.
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I'm thinking of that one pass to Omri in the first half for the dunk
I really think people have gone off the deep end with this one
It's little snapshots here and there of what he can potentially do when he passes it to others correctly
Right now, his late game decisions are all based on instinct.
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Yes
he is completely capable of doing everything we need/want from him, which is awesome and we should be very excited/grateful for that. The problem right now, is IMO, that he doesn’t have the mental drive to learn these new aspects, and has a holier than thou mentality to the rest of the team.
Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!
by prowseinthehouse on Dec 6, 2010 11:46 PM PST up reply actions
Well except when Michael Jordan ran the ISO play.
Then the NBA loved Jordan because he was “Jordan”. Just saying.
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So does the team
It could be a win-win. And if he comes back and fucks up a good thing we can dump him like we did with Martin.
"I think more than a coaching change is needed. I think an overall front office cleaning should precede any coaching changes. Anyone up for letting Petrie move on and letting Pritchard take his spot?"
Are you really going to do the same thing with Tyreke this year
that you did with Martin last year? And are you going to do it again next year with Cousins, but under a different screen name?
Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!
by prowseinthehouse on Dec 6, 2010 11:56 PM PST up reply actions
What did I do to Martin?
I cut him a ton of slack, but his whining about the Arco fans to get traded and his half-hearted play with apparently the same goal in mind pushed me over the edge.
The Kings built their reputation with crisp passing and team play, and Tyreke Evans is the antithesis of that. The Kings are not even fun to watch. Pooh Jeter and Omri changed that a bit tonight, and I guess I am going to have to be content with 15 minutes of Pooh Jeter a night to see team ball and energy and enthusiasm.
"It really was amazing to see the difference in this team when Pooh was out there moving the ball. Crisp passing, set plays, movement, and Oh yeah, SMILES & PASSION exhibited by the other players on the floor."
You just about wet yourself when he was traded
Turns out maybe that wasn’t such a brilliant move.
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Great move so far
Both teams have losing records, but we have $34 million out of the deal.
"It really was amazing to see the difference in this team when Pooh was out there moving the ball. Crisp passing, set plays, movement, and Oh yeah, SMILES & PASSION exhibited by the other players on the floor."
evans
i don’t think he’s that hurt. i think he’s been figured out.
Beno has been so inconsistent
and Head isn’t the answer at the 2 either. I say sign Kyle Weaver and see what happens…
Say what you want about the coaching
but since the 1st five games only one time have 4 guys all had good games in the same night in my mind – and that was Dallas,only Landry really stunk it up.
Tonight only Casspi of course had a good night, and maybe Cousins, Jeter and Sammy played decently well. Two of those guys are bench players (this week).
That just isn’t enough – and still it was pretty close in the end.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
I feel like if they had woken up before the 4th this would have been a blowout
Even if the Kings won this game, they wouldn’t have deserved it. The Clippers didn’t deserve the win either, it was just a lazy boring game for 3 quarters from both teams until they decided to play basketball.
I did like what I saw from Casspi (I LOVE that he is so reliable finishing on fast breaks) and Cousins, and Pooh. I think Cousins fits as a starter much better esp. fouling-wise. As for Pooh, I like him as the energy off the bench, but I’m a little worried that he will be starting the next game.
Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!
by prowseinthehouse on Dec 6, 2010 11:43 PM PST up reply actions
And they still almost won it.
I am not all that bent by losing this game. I am sure not going to get all frustrated and start talking crazy depressive shit like trading away Cuz or Evans. Some bizarre crazy talk tonight…
I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...
Especially since Cuz is starting to show how awesome he can be
I’m excited for him to “Throw it down big man!” on a nightly basis
Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!
by prowseinthehouse on Dec 6, 2010 11:58 PM PST up reply actions
Walker told me I have aids.
Brennan Huff: I have a belly full of white dog crap in me, and now you lay this shit on me?
Just got back from work
about to watch the game
So don’t spoil it…
oh wait I’m in the post game thread….Kings lost?
Michae Bluth - "Clear as the Ann on plain's face."
Leela -" Man, I'm sore all over. I feel like I just went ten rounds with mighty Thor"
Fry - "I feel like I was mauled by Jesus. "
Homer - " When I held that gun in my hand, I felt a surge of power…like God must feel when he’s holding a gun."
by Apoet on Dec 6, 2010 11:46 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Skip the 1st 3 quarters
watch the 4th, but not the last 2 minutes. You’ll love it!
Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!
by prowseinthehouse on Dec 6, 2010 11:48 PM PST up reply actions
LOL, yeah it was sad because they almost pulled off a fatty comeback,
yet, it wasn’t to be.
Brennan Huff: I have a belly full of white dog crap in me, and now you lay this shit on me?
I love that you managed to still post a gif without seeing the game
Almost as much as I love that you came to StR before watching the game that you had Tivo’d :-P
".......and I guess he won the argument, but I walked away with the turnips!"
What can I say
I’m awesome like that ;P
Michae Bluth - "Clear as the Ann on plain's face."
Leela -" Man, I'm sore all over. I feel like I just went ten rounds with mighty Thor"
Fry - "I feel like I was mauled by Jesus. "
Homer - " When I held that gun in my hand, I felt a surge of power…like God must feel when he’s holding a gun."
Time to start the Coach Kal negotiations.
by MarcusC on Dec 6, 2010 11:58 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Don't know what to make of Tyreke anymore..
He is such a ball stopper. I felt more comfortable with the offense going through DMC because he would make a quick move or pass, never stagnating the offense. He still has an ugly jumper and doesn’t know how to run a picknroll effectively.
I also hate how he doesn’t know how to fight through a screen. Going under the screen when you’re already playing 5 feet off Gordon is retarded because it gave him a wide open look at a 3 everytime.
Sure, he has raw talent but is he coachable? He has so many bad habits to fix and I don’t know if he’s got the right people in his ear to prompt the necessary changes.
I hope we can get Kyrie Irving in the next draft.
Fundimentally Weak
You are right on – Tyreke gets to the rim and that’s his game. Silly things like defense and making players around him better with his game are obviously not a priority.
This group is young, poorly conditioned and coached.
I only made it though about 1/3 of this bitch fest. You all are silly.
My take:
We played well enough on the road that we really should have won this game, even with most of our players playing poorly. That’s a good thing. We obviously haven’t learned how to close out games yet. Young teams often have this problem.
This game together with the Dallas game show improvement over the previous couple of weeks.
Now in Sactown
What?
This game together with the Dallas game show improvement over the previous couple of weeks.
We lost to the F-ing Clippers. Without Kaman and a hobbled Davis. Again!
How is that for improvement?
DMC played well, Casspi played well on offense and Pooh has earned himself a place in the rotation for the “foreseeable future”. Other than that it was pretty horrid.
Dunking Dutchman
I seem to remember losing to the Wolves and Pistons at home
and getting blown out by the Clips(Without Kaman or Davis).
It sucked to lose a game we could have and maybe should have won, but it was much better than the previous couple of weeks.
Now in Sactown
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 7, 2010 7:10 AM PST up reply actions
Well, kudo's for being optimistic
But I had expected for a bit more, after the Mavs game. We regressed back into our old “form” or lack of it, as I see it. And I’m getting more worried about Tyreke as the weeks go by.
Dunking Dutchman
Well there's the difference
But I had expected for a bit more
I have no expectations for this season anymore. I was happy that I didn’t have to turn the game off at halftime, as I’ve had to do way too many times recently.
Now in Sactown
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 7, 2010 7:52 AM PST up reply actions
If you have zero expectations
then why come here?
I don’t ask this to bash you, but I am really wondering why.
Dunking Dutchman
Kings are my favorite
team, and I like to watch basketball. This is the place to get Kings news. Why wouldn’t I come here. I’m not a Kings fan only when they’re good. Been a fan from day 1 of the Sacramento incarnation.
No expectations means I don’t expect a win against anyone. I want them to win, I want them to play well, and I want them to show improvement. So far this season seems like a step or two backwards. Time will tell.
The last few seasons we’ve started out hot and then went downhill. Maybe this year we’ll do the opposite.
Now in Sactown
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 7, 2010 8:16 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Thanks
fair enough.
and I want them to show improvement
This, to me, seemed to be expectations. But i guess that I’m confusing “expectations” with “hope”.
Just to have no expectations also sounds so hopeless and ambivalent. Which seems to be somewhat at odds with fandom to me.
Dunking Dutchman
I want them to win every game, but I don't expect them to win every game.
Just semantics, I guess.
It may be because I’ve been a fan through all the low years. I don’t know. I don’t think it’s panic time yet, and I read a lot of panic up above.
Now in Sactown
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 7, 2010 8:46 AM PST up reply actions
I feel
it’s more disappointment and bitterness than panic. But I have been wrong once before in my life.
Dunking Dutchman
Yeah, you're right
disappointment and bitterness
Now in Sactown
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 7, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
I've been a fan through many of the bad years.
This seems like a walk in the park compared to the Spud Webb Mitch Richmond years: A team with veterans and some young players that had way to many flaws other than being a fringe playoff team.
At the time I was too young to know that, but I know it now. This is easy in comparison.
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No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
That's funny
I think of the Spud-Mitch years as good times when compared to the early Sacramento era.
Now in Sactown
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 7, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
Absolutely. I would too.
I wasn’t really saying those were awful times. I just don’t remember the early years because A) I was too young and B) I wasn’t a basketball fan those years. (I’m not sure I’d remember if I was a fan.)
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No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Kfan
You have a valid point. At least the Kings have been close enough to win the past 2 games. I think the real frustration is watching how well they CAN play when the ball is moved around and everyone gets their touches. We just haven’t seen much of that lately so it causes a lot of anxiety.
I love your optimism, and I agree with you. I am just really getting tired of watching our go to guys like Reke and Landry have such bad games so consistently.
I was uncool before it was cool
That Pooh stretch was great
I was happy that I didn’t have to turn the game off at halftime, as I’ve had to do way too many times recently.
In a season of funk and folly, that was a highlight. Jon Brockman has returned, and this year he is a point guard.
"It really was amazing to see the difference in this team when Pooh was out there moving the ball. Crisp passing, set plays, movement, and Oh yeah, SMILES & PASSION exhibited by the other players on the floor."
Had the Kings shown any effort
before the 4th quarter, the game would have been a blowout. Instead, they decided to be lazy, not get back on defense, leave their man across court anytime Griffin had the ball, settle for bad shots, etc… I agree the last quarter was very encouraging, along with some individual performances (Omri, DMC, Pooh) but overall I wasn’t impressed with the game. Especially, because it could have been an easy blowout.
Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!
by prowseinthehouse on Dec 7, 2010 7:36 AM PST up reply actions
Neither here nor there but
I thought they played a lot better in the Dallas games.
I predict JT will never breathe through his nose.
If they had shot the 3 in the Clippers game as well as they did against Dallas I would agree
but the reality is that we are a horrible 3pt shooting team, and we were undeniably lucky shooting 3’s against Dallas. If we had shot our normal percentage or Kidd didn’t go 1-9 from 3pt range we would never have been close against Dallas.
We lost the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th quarters, scored 8 pts in the last 7 minutes of the game. And, the 3rd and 4th quarter offense carried over to the 1st & 2nd quarter of the Clippers game. We were outscored 51-48 in the last 2 quarters against Dallas and 50-44 in the first 2 quarters against the Clippers. And, that 101-92 which is worse than our seasonal average per game of 101-96.
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