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Kings 116, Wizards 91: Just What the Doctor Ordered

It feels so good to be recapping a Kings victory once again, and boy, what a victory it was.  In fact, I'm still not all too sure it was real.

The Kings got out to a good start tonight, with big help from Beno Udrih, who got hot early and had 13 points, 3 rebounds and 3 assists in the 1st quarter alone.  With John Wall and Andray Blatche out, the Kings looked ready for an easy victory finally.  But once again, the Kings let an opponent come back into the game despite an early lead, and as Washington rallied back and finally took the lead to end the quarter on the back of Kirk Hinrich and Al Thornton, I couldn't help but think "Here we go again".

Fortunately, I was wrong, and after a back and forth affair for the first couple minutes of the 2nd quarter, the Kings were once again able to build up a lead, this time sparked by another Kings point guard, Pooh Jeter.  Pooh did a great job all night of getting this team to run, hitting his own shots, and getting the ball to his teammates in the places they want to.  He was acting like a true leader out there too, as I haven't seen someone talk so much on both ends of the court for the Kings in a long time.  After that wonderful 2nd quarter, the Kings never looked back and simply kept on building onto the lead, outscoring the Wizards in both the 3rd and 4th quarters as well, leading by as many as 32 at one point.

The ball movement was fantastic for the Kings, as was rebounding and defense for the most part.  I do have a couple nitpicks with the team however; They still fouled shooters way too much (Washington had 10 more FTA than us) and they turned the ball over a lot (19 times).  Still, turnovers were even worse for Washington, and the Kings finally got an easy win that they can hopefully build on.

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  • Jason Thompson was the player of the game.  This is an absolutely ridiculous comparison, but at times he looked like Dirk out there with his mid-range jumper.  He also was taking inside on the smaller Wizards with success.  He doesn't have a lot of finesse around the basket, something I think would greatly help him if he added it to his game, but they were going in tonight.  His rebounding and defense was also spectacular, and while he didn't rack up the assists (only two), I love how he moves the ball.  Just a great game for Jason, and I hope we see more of this.
  • Tyreke Evans again struggled with his offense.  He only took it inside a few times, missing his FGA, and getting to the line once.  He was a bit better with his jumper, but not by much.  He passed the ball well though, and I thought his defense was really good tonight, but its clear he is not the same impact player right now with the injuries he's dealing with.  He told Jason Jones before the game that he had a stress fracture in his foot, but that report was denied by the team, and after the game Tyreke also denied it.  He's scheduled to have a MRI done tomorrow as a precaution however, so we'll see what comes from that.
  • Beno Udrih was spectacular in the early going.  His first 11 points all came within the first 5-6 minutes of the first quarter.  He definitely got a bit sloppy towards the end, getting a little cocky and trying to do a little too much, but I still loved the performance.  He also managed to do what I have so wanted many other Kings to do in attacking the basket, and he got to the line 10 times because of it.  There were also times I thought Beno played very nice defense (although that might've been because he was guarding Kirk Hinrich), and he definitely hustled to save plays and get into the passing lanes. 
  • DeMarcus had a bit more of a Rookie Game tonight.  He wasn't getting low enough position on offense, and the farther out from the basket he is, the more likely he is to turn it over trying to do something too fancy.  His man defense I thought was decent, and I did think he got screwed on a couple charge calls later on in the game.  His frustration with the officials is very apparent at times, and his body language is not great when he has to come out of a game due to foul trouble, at least to my eyes.  DeMarcus needs to learn control, both emotionally, and with regards to his game.  He can end up being a truly special player one day if he does.
  • I thought Donté had a better offensive game than defensive for once.  He was hitting his threes tonight, and he had a couple nice moves inside where he utilized his athleticism to finish in traffic.  On defense though, he did manage to get torched a bit by Al Thornton, the only Wizards player who could probably say they played a good game, but Thornton is a very streaky shooter so I don't know how much credence to put to this performance.
  • JT might have been the Player of the Game in my book, but the man the media mobbed in the locker room afterward was Pooh Jeter, and for good reason.  For the 3rd straight game, Pooh came in off the bench and got this team running and gunning.  When he's on the floor, this team becomes much more fun to watch.  He has his problems defensively against taller and stronger players, but his quickness and speed also make him a tough matchup on the offensive end too.  He can hit the jumper, take it inside, or find his open teammates.  He did all of the above tonight, and I expect we'll be seeing a lot more of Pooh this year and possibly in years to come.
  • Omri was sort of the opposite of Donté.  He struggled with his shot tonight (only 5-15, including 1-5 from three) but his defense was pretty good.  He had 6 steals and a block in only 25 minutes of play, and he also continued to hit the glass well, with 6 boards.  Omri might be the player I'm most excited about potential-wise after Tyreke and DeMarcus.  Its also clear how much he loves the up tempo style that Pooh brings onto the court, and I think together, he and Pooh have a chance to be a great sparkplug combo off the bench this year.
  • Samuel Dalembert was not at the game as he hadn't yet arrived back from Philadelphia, where he attended the late Phil Jasner's (Sixers Beat Writer) Funeral service.  Darnell Jackson filled in at Center for his absence, and he played well enough.  He picked up some fouls (I like how Darnell fouls though, because he almost always makes sure that the other player isn't going to make the shot when he does it) but he also grabbed 8 boards and scored 6 points on 4 shots in only 15 minutes.
  • Carl Landry is really struggling right now.  He's battling a sore back and also had to leave the game after bumping knees with a Wizard.  He just wasn't effective on the court.  He's not able to play defense without fouling, and his inability to grab defensive rebounds really hurts us when he's in the game.  Before this game, Carl was LAST on the team in Defensive Rebound Rate.  He only grabbed 1 rebound in 14 minutes tonight so he likely dropped even lower in DReb% after this one too.  That's just unacceptable from a Power Forward that wants to play big minutes.
  • Francisco and Luther both didn't play much, and both happened to come into the game during times the Wizards would have runs.  As such, they were the only ones on the team with a negative +/- (speaking of which, JT was a ridiculous +45!).  They didn't play bad though.  I don't think anyone on the team played bad really.  Not tonight.
  • I appreciate Tyreke Evans a little bit more after hearing that John Wall was missing yet another game (7th of the season out of 21 games) with a sprained ankle.  Tyreke's sprained both his ankles at least 5 times since the summer, and also is playing with plantar fasciitis.  It might not be wise, and I might even be being a bit irrational, but I also love the fact that he's trying his best to play through the pain.
  • Once again congratulations to the G-Man, Gary Gerould, on his 2000 Kings Radio Broadcasts.  You're one of a kind Gary.  Let's go for 2000 more.

Postgame: Paul Westphal (via kingsflix)

Postgame: Jason Thompson (via kingsflix)

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Go Kings!

A much needed win (over a team we SHOULD beat).

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by lifestyleforthesellout on Dec 9, 2010 12:19 AM PST reply actions  

At home

Not to discount the win in anyway but the Wizards looked absolutely awful and disinterested and it would have been down right disheartening to lose that game.

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by kingme18 on Dec 9, 2010 8:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice Recap Aykis

Lets hope Pooh keeps up the good assist work and solid backup point play.
I can’t believe I actually watched that video for 4 mins. Yikes..

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by chenp22 on Dec 9, 2010 12:20 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Is that Antoine Wright in the background cheering?

"It really was amazing to see the difference in this team when Pooh was out there moving the ball. Crisp passing, set plays, movement, and Oh yeah, SMILES & PASSION exhibited by the other players on the floor."

by NewEraKings on Dec 10, 2010 7:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe this is footage from when they announced he was waived.

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by AnotherStupidSN on Dec 10, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Yea

I believe this was @ Cleveland. Maybe an Omri dunk or three.

by chenp22 on Dec 10, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Holy guacamole!

If I were a betting man, after what I saw tonight, I would put my money on us making the playoffs! Reke is playing so much better now that he is trying to get his teammates involved and not trying to do it all on his own any more. Beno played amazing defense. I love how Demarcus is able to extend the D with his outside shot, and I honestly believe that we have the best coach in the league and what a bargain of a price we got him for!

by Merickel on Dec 9, 2010 12:20 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Isn't that how things work here

When we lose the sky is falling and when we win everything is perfect?

by Merickel on Dec 9, 2010 5:42 AM PST up reply actions   3 recs

well done, sir

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by Holmdel on Dec 9, 2010 6:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Sweet Victory!

Hoping the MRI shows something so that Reke can get healthy. He’s not even close to what he was/can be. The Kings with a healthy Reke can be very good.

Pooh again shows how bad the Kings need a real PG running the show. If only Pooh was 5" taller.

by amonk81 on Dec 9, 2010 1:16 AM PST reply actions  

Well...

My pooh has been known to be around at least 6 inches.

(crickets)

Sorry, so so sorry. I couldn’t sleep and this was just sooo easy.

by M. Thai on Dec 9, 2010 4:14 AM PST up reply actions  

By the way, I totally agree with your point about the Kings needing a real PG.

by M. Thai on Dec 9, 2010 4:15 AM PST up reply actions  

I was at the game...

What really stuck out to me was the questionable calls of the officiating crew. That’s everywhere but some of the calls definitely left you scratching your head.

I think what changed is how smoothly the offense ran tonight. This was largely due to the fact that the team caught fire especially JT and Wabeno caught fire. Also, it was noticeable that Tyreke wasn’t really himself. INot sure if it’s due to the injury, your guess is better than mine.

Also, the other thing this game showed was the curious case of Donte Greene. Donte had good drives to the basket and a great steal that led to a dunk. Not sure if he was playing around cause they were up by so much, but he had a couple shots that were questionable.

Overall, great performance, let’s build off of this. Bring on the heat.

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by Sacramento_Strong on Dec 9, 2010 1:34 AM PST reply actions  

Gotta show love for Pooh!

He played well tonight.

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by Sacramento_Strong on Dec 9, 2010 1:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Rec'd

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by section214 on Dec 9, 2010 8:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Two quickies

1) I’m not sure how it came through the broadcast, and I’d be curious to hear other people’s impressions, but Arco didn’t seem to have the same energy as in previous games, despite the fact that the Kings were blowing out the opposition. Maybe because it was a weekday crowd, or because chanting “defense” loses meaning when up 25, but I thought it was interesting.

For the past few games I’ve noticed that parts of the crowd are starting to get fed up with ‘Reke- I’m hearing a lot of “pass the ball” and “do something,” which leads me to 2) I think there’s some dissatisfaction with ’Reke among the players as well.

In the first quarter I got the distinct impression that Beno was intentionally not passing to him on the break, even when he was in front of the play and with what appeared to me to be good position. An end of quarter play (1st or 2nd I think) had ‘Reke dribbling way beyond the 3-or line (in fact near half court) for a few seconds- Donté came halfway out to meet him and was shouting something and pointing at other players. Also, it doesn’t seem to me that DMC fights as hard for position when ’Reke has the ball.

Of course I could be reading way too much into this- Beno had it going early and may have thought he had the best play (pretty sure he converted each time), Donté could have been relaying a play or pointing something out in the defense, and though I love DMC I can admit that he doesn’t always seem to know what’s expected of him. Still made me wonder, however.

by lead_pipe on Dec 9, 2010 1:54 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Not trying to be Debbie Downer here

Also, apparently by “quickie” I meant “the longest comment I’ve ever made, and from my phone no less.”

by lead_pipe on Dec 9, 2010 1:56 AM PST via mobile up reply actions   2 recs

It wouldn't surprise me about Reke

We have loads of talent on this team, and they proved it tonight. Reke carried the team last year because this team really couldn’t do it without him. However, a game like this one shows that they can do it without Reke and that he doesn’t need to do everything himself. Can’t wait till they’re all able to get on the same page and work together.

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by vfettke on Dec 9, 2010 5:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Watching the game when Tyreke was dribbling at the top of the key

I could distinctly hear Donte scream at him, “Do something! You have people open! HES OPEN!” Then Tyreke passed to Pooh in the corner for a 3.

Also, about the Beno comment above, I thought the same thing. Right afterward I was thinking Beno was giving Tyreke a taste of his own medicine (ie, not rewarding a player for running), but yes, we could also be thinking to much into it.

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by prowseinthehouse on Dec 9, 2010 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I say that too but,

I’m sure wether or not Donte’ was doing it on purpose to draw the attention of the defenders and allow pooh to get wide open in the corner.

by mattrick on Dec 9, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

No one was at the game from what the broadcast showed. The first rows looked like they had more empty seats than filled ones. The Kings being a bad team and playing an equally crappy team in the Wizards isn’t much of a draw.

by Rumskee on Dec 9, 2010 7:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Totally agree about Tyreke

There were two plays in particular towards the end of the 3rd quarter where Tyreke missed opportunities that your PG must capitalize on. They might have slipped by as we eventually scored on the possession though… In one (the Donté waving frantically play lead_pipe referenced) JT had a mismatch in the post and Tyreke should have moved the ball to Donté who in turn could get it in to JT. We ended up scoring on the other side of the court but it was a missed opportunity to take advantage of a mismatch and clearly a source of frustration for Donté and JT. On another play later in the quarter JT was WIDE OPEN about 15’ out on the baseline with Tyreke at the top of the 3 pt stripe. Tyreke held the dribble and ended up taking a 3 which (luckily) caromed in. Again, as we scored it was quickly forgotten (or at least forgiven) but not something that I like to see out of our PG.

At the end of the day, Kings win so I’m happy!

by defender96 on Dec 9, 2010 8:10 AM PST up reply actions  

That second play with wide open JT was especially egregious

I understand that the play called might have been to run down the clock so Washington doesn’t have a chance to score (if I recall it was at the very end of the 3rd quarter), but if you see a player wide open, you have to take that extremely high chance of scoring. It also rewards your teammate, in this case JT, for doing the work and getting open. Pooh does this, and Tyreke does not. I absolutely love Tyreke, but more and more, I don’t think he should be our primary ballhandler. He should still be the main option on offense most of the time, especially when he’s healthy, but this team works better with a guy like Pooh in the game who finds his teammates, talks a lot (loved seeing that from Pooh last night, he was so vocal on both ends of the floor), and pushes the tempo.

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by Aykis16 on Dec 9, 2010 8:50 AM PST up reply actions  

He even mentioned it to Jim Gray

He was adamant about how they HAVE to talk on defense. That was a great interview just after the 2nd quarter ended. Pooh is smart and vocal on the court. That makes him worth more than his size tells us.

I could see him being as efficient on the offensive end as Rajon Rondo, just with a better outside shot and much less rebounding prowess. (And no I’m not saying he’s got Rondo potential, but no one knew Rondo had Rondo potential either.)

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by LOUiECOG on Dec 9, 2010 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't know that I'd go so far as to compare him to Rondo

I think what Pooh has shown fairly conclusively is that, whether or not he’s ultimately the answer, the Kings benefit greatly with a pass-first, up-tempo guard in the game, which describes neither Tyreke nor Beno.

by lead_pipe on Dec 9, 2010 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

And that's why I wanted Darren Collison

sigh…

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by CaliforniaJag on Dec 9, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Who would you have been willing to trade to acquire Collison?

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by pookeyguru on Dec 9, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Apparently all it took was Trevor Ariza

So maybe Landry?

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by vfettke on Dec 9, 2010 10:53 PM PST up reply actions  

And moving James Posey away.

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by pookeyguru on Dec 10, 2010 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

My thoughts from Arco

Pooh’s steal from Arenas and subsequent alley-opp to JT, was the absolute best play I’ve seen this year.

When Pooh is on the floor, everyone else is quicker, moves more, and seems to feed off his energy. And, the uptempo game he brings is something that JT and Omri really seem comfortable with and really excell at.

Beno seemed to be trying to redeem himself after the Clippers 1-10 outing, and went to the basket on every breakaway, and never looked to pass. But, once he got on a roll he opened up more. He still had problems staying with Hinrich, but at times he wasn’t getting great help from his teammates, off of what I consider illigal screens.

The short chippy shots that hadn’t been falling for JT, seem to be falling lately. He had a remarkable game, and I don’t want to diminish his acheivements, but he really wasn’t up against great talent in Seraphin & Booker. None the less, if he can continue to make those shots, he is going to win some games for us.

I think it’s time for DeMarcus to realize that he’s just not quick enough to take most charges. He needs to stay on his feet, try and alter the shot and rebound the misses. Getting called for a block and falling to the floor, isn’t working. I think all the blocking fouls were good calls. Also, Cousins needs to learn how to repost. He’s still attacking even if the defender has good position.

Enough has been said about Tyreke and his foot problems so I won’t. I thought the 2 early fouls he got defending Arenas, were bad plays on his part. But, I’m glad that he’s still working to contribute even with his deminished ablity to get to the rack and finish. I thought his jumper looked good, and he was getting the ball to the open man.

Luther is better at getting to the rim than he is shooting off the dribble. And, I think his real role is a defensive stopper late in quarter. I thought Cisco shot well but other than that I think he had a bad game. His defense was really bad, and anytime he got pressured with the ball, you just knew that Bad Cisco was going to show up.

We got a needed win and I got by coupon for free Jack in the Box tacos, so I went home happy. But, I’m not fooling myself, this was the Wizards without Wall or Blatche, and we haven’t turned the corner yet.

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by HighTops on Dec 9, 2010 2:50 AM PST reply actions   3 recs

I noticed that since Tyreke wasn't contributing on offense

He really ramped up his defensive effort. It obviously wasn’t his best game of the season, but I think it might have been his best defensive performances.

by HeuristicLineup on Dec 9, 2010 6:38 AM PST up reply actions  

It was the most consistenly hard defense I've seen Reke play

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by ElRonToro on Dec 9, 2010 7:49 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought his foot work was bad.

At one point he followed Hinrich from the left elbow extended to the right side of the key and lost him. He wasn’t able to side step quickly and could sustain the move all the way across.

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by HighTops on Dec 9, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Will any lessons be learned from the last 3-4 games ???

If not, these are the ones that should be:
1) Don’t leave Reke with playmaking – He’s awful at it. Let Beno do it, followed by Pooh.
Let him play 2nd guard for now, and not for 37 min. 30 would be fine, as we do have cisco.
2) JT should start, leaving Carl as instant offense off the bench. Don’t forget Carl, though, ‘cause he’s important for situations when we can’t run.
3) Jeter, Casspi and JT are your 3 core Team-Oriented players, and play very well together. the last two are quick to suffer when playmaking level falls.
4) run and gun baby!

by cats&shoes on Dec 9, 2010 2:50 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Just double checked hes started the following games.

Nov 27 Chi @ Sac
Nov 30 Ind @ Sac
Dec 3 Sac @ LaL
Dec 4 Dal @ Sac
Dec 6 Sac @ LaC
Dec 8 Was @ Sac

by chenp22 on Dec 9, 2010 4:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Good points

It’s become increasingly clear to all but the most stubborn that Tyreke’s future is as a 2 guard.

Pooh doesn’t need to start, but I like the fact he played 27 minutes and he’s the best option in the roster to play the point.

I especially agree with “run and gun baby!,” although it doesn’t really fit with Tyreke and Cousins’ games. But it is more in keeping with the best tradition of Kings basketball. Uptempo with a lot of passing is a winning formula, and it’s high time we rediscover that.

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by NewEraKings on Dec 9, 2010 7:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Good to know you've got this all figured out

Just like you had these figured out.


we have three players who are not a part of our future with less than savory contracts: Dalembert, Beno and Garcia.

Wow, bye Beno and Garcia.

Landry is a much better option than JT, night in and night out. Period.

Really. Wow. Okay, guess we better get rid of JT too.
 
Unless . . .

Play the team you are building with Evans Cousins Casspi Greene JT and add veterans to the mix.

Wait, JT is the team we are building with? I thought Landry was better than him night out and night in.

Somehow I think I’ll wait to make a decision on ‘Reke until after he’s maybe healthy and had a chance to get a little more experience under his belt. But thanks for the advice.

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by SavageBeast on Dec 9, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Not jumping to conclusions?

You’re such an idiot and brainwashed fan SB.

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by pookeyguru on Dec 9, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I blame the good old boys

"This season is another learning process for this team. There is no segment of the schedule that looms larger than the sum of the season, in my opinion."

Section 214

by SavageBeast on Dec 9, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah and the groupthink brain surgeons.

You would think groupthink would have caught on elsewhere, but it manages to exist solely on StR. Strange.

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by pookeyguru on Dec 9, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Too many stats

I think we all must have a stat infection.

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by SavageBeast on Dec 9, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Please don't tell me that cowboyron96@yahoo.com is the cure.

Pretty please with as many Shirley Temple’s on top as you want don’t tell me that.

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by pookeyguru on Dec 9, 2010 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Good work

Nice to know you have been saving my posts. I’m sure I could take the time to find some of your “brilliant” statements from the past, but frankly it wouldn’t be worth my time.

And actually, I have no problem addressing the posts you highlighted, which are still valid.

1. Beno, Garcia and Dalembert are not part of the Kings future.

Apparently not, because the playing time of all three has taken a big hit as the season has progressed:

  • Dalembert played at least 22 minutes in 6 of his first 8 games, but has only logged that many minutes in 4 of his last 10 games.
  • Beno played at least 30 minutes in each of his first eight games, including two outings with more than 40. He’s only played more than 30 minutes in 1 of his last 11 games.
  • Garcia played at least 22 minutes in 6 of his first 9 games, including 3 with more than 30 minutes. He hasn’t played 22 minutes in any of his last 10 games. In the last three games, he’s averaged less than 12 minutes a contest.

2. Landry is a better option than JT.

I still think this is the case, although Landry hasn’t played very well lately and JT has had some good outings. Landry has looked good with the Pooh lineup, though, and I think it’s clear to many Kings fans (probably not to you, though) that the Kings do not generally do a good job of getting him enough touches down low, where he is most effective.

3. “Play the team you are building with Evans Cousins Casspi Greene JT and add veterans to the mix. … Wait, JT is the team we are building with? I thought Landry was better than him night out and night in.”

Actually, and not surprisingly, you are taking this out of context. In fact, it was actually something ElRonToro said, not me.
I simply blockquoted part of his comment as follows …

Play the team you are building with Evans Cousins Casspi Greene JT and add veterans to the mix. Landry if you think he’s part of the core. Udrih if you think he is a good back up 2-3. Dalembert for change of pace D and whoever.

and I then commented:

This makes a lot of sense … But apparently it makes too much sense for the current coach to implement.

If you want to quote me out of context, maybe you could read my blog here. If you do, you’ll come across this ditty:

We also need to solve the Tyreke question. He’s a great athlete, but as a point guard, he’s mid-pack at best and isn’t the solution. He simply doesn’t know how to effectively run the team. He’s a scorer and will probably be better off at the wing, or on another team.

I’m not saying Jeter is the answer at point guard. Far from it. Going forward, we will need to acquire a young point guard or draft one. But let’s at least give the kid a test drive. Maybe we will be pleasantly surprised and find a future backup.

I’m not saying Cousins, JT, Landry, Whiteside, Omri and Donte are definitely part of our future, either. But there’s only one way to find out.

I think that compares pretty favorably with your “wait-and-see” comments above:

Somehow I think I’ll wait to make a decision on ‘Reke until after he’s maybe healthy and had a chance to get a little more experience under his belt. But thanks for the advice.

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by NewEraKings on Dec 9, 2010 10:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Some thoughts...

1) Beno is slightly a better playmaker than Tyreke is. So calling Tyreke terrible and then suggesting Beno lead instead doesn’t say much. That being said, Beno should still start ahead of Pooh though.

2) JT has been starting the last 6 games. (We’re 1-5 in those last 6.) I love starting JT, but let’s not freak out here.

3) I’m not sure how you determined that Jeter, Casspi, and Thompson are the “3 core team-oriented players.” What metric are you using to determine this? Aside from that, basketball is a team sport and everyone suffers when there is no playmaking or leadership, so yeah… (Not trying to dog you, just think there is some issues with this point.)

4) Running and gunning really is only possible when you have a PG to lead that play style, because to “run” you need a ball handler capable of making good, long passes and to “gun”, you need someone with the proper court vision to get the ball to the shooters.

Aside from your second point about JT, it’s pretty clear here that all things point to the need for a real PG.

by M. Thai on Dec 9, 2010 4:53 AM PST reply actions  

Called it
There were also times I thought Beno played very nice defense (although that might’ve been because he was guarding Kirk Hinrich)

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by iashwash on Dec 9, 2010 5:14 AM PST reply actions  

Fire Assphal!

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by AnotherStupidSN on Dec 9, 2010 6:16 AM PST reply actions  

There we go, now it feels like a normal recap thread.

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by AnotherStupidSN on Dec 9, 2010 6:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Fire Petrie!

Obviously not a good judge of talent and has no actual rebuild plan. (Pooh, I say!)

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by LeaguePassAddict on Dec 9, 2010 6:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Then Trade Landry and Westphal for Martin and Adelman!!!

And of course Cousins, Thompson, Garcia, Greene, Jackson, Beno and one free suite for a year in the palms for Darko

by HeuristicLineup on Dec 9, 2010 6:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Trade Dalemebert!!!

Kings are 2-0 when he doesn’t play! and 4-4 when he plays less than 20 minutes!!

by HeuristicLineup on Dec 9, 2010 8:08 AM PST up reply actions  

I know I've come out as a bit of a Dalembert hater

which is unfortunate, because he might be the most fun personality on the team.

But our offense simply DIES when he comes in the game, and it negates his wonderful work on the glass and blocking shots most of the time. 15-20 minutes a game for Dally is fine in my book. Maybe more against the great centers of the league.

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by Aykis16 on Dec 9, 2010 8:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Some 2nd unit combination of Pooh, Omri, and Dally is appealing to me

Sam runs well, and I imagine he regularly will beat opposing centers up the floor if the Kings are pushing the ball up quickly- establishing great position early might help his offense?

by lead_pipe on Dec 9, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Great point lead.

I really have to disagree, Aykis. Dalembert isn’t the reason that the offense dies. Cousins only averaging 7 more ppg and JT is only 2.5 more.

I think the fact that Carl isn’t getting the ball down low is a bigger problem. He averaged 7 fga inside 10 ft and 3 outside with Hou, now that’s totally reversed. He’s only averaging 2.5 attempts at the rim with the Kings and almost 7 outside of 10ft.

Add to that, JT only averaging 2 baskets per game inside 10 ft, and Tyreke’s problems, and I don’t believe Sammy who never has been a scorer, is the real problem

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by HighTops on Dec 9, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I think you are ignoring the chemisty issue

What Aykis is saying is true in that when Sam D starts this team plays with no offensive chemistry, but this is also as much about Beno as it is Sam D. With Beno out AND Sam D in the chemistry was just shot.

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by MustangMBS on Dec 9, 2010 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess it's hard to prove

since almost every lineup is a small sample size lineup. But, since our offense doesn’t run thru the center at the high or low post, and since we don’t go to the blocks for most of our scoring, I don’t see how a low post defender who runs the floor better than every other big except JT, can hurt our chemistry.

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by HighTops on Dec 9, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Westphool was formerly my favorite, but now it's Assphal

nice

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by Holmdel on Dec 9, 2010 7:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Pretty sure I got that from someone else, though.

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by AnotherStupidSN on Dec 9, 2010 7:03 AM PST up reply actions  

JT had a ridiculous +45, +/-

Thats’s got to be the highest since the glory years.

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by moproblemz on Dec 9, 2010 6:16 AM PST reply actions  

Happy Dance!

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by MustangMBS on Dec 9, 2010 7:17 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Sorry, but white girls with dreads are a no-no.

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by tomroadrunner on Dec 9, 2010 8:25 AM PST up reply actions  

There are no dreads on that head

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by MustangMBS on Dec 9, 2010 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

She has a head?

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by otis29 on Dec 9, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions   3 recs

Amen
For the 3rd straight game, Pooh came in off the bench and got this team running and gunning. When he’s on the floor, this team becomes much more fun to watch. He has his problems defensively against taller and stronger players, but his quickness and speed also make him a tough matchup on the offensive end too. He can hit the jumper, take it inside, or find his open teammates. … Omri might be the player I’m most excited about potential-wise after Tyreke and DeMarcus. Its also clear how much he loves the up tempo style that Pooh brings onto the court, and I think together, he and Pooh have a chance to be a great sparkplug combo off the bench this year.

I think as much as having more of a true point guard, the important ingredient is the uptempo style. Guys like Omri really improve when we are on the run. And it is a lot more fun to watch than guys like Tyreke and Beno pounding the rock and slowing things down.

We’re probably still going to be a bad team this year, but I think Pooh’s emergence and the lift it gives other players gives us some hope for better things this season.

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by NewEraKings on Dec 9, 2010 7:20 AM PST reply actions  

not to be "Waltonesque"

      Checked the stats this morning. Donte had 0 rebounds in 27 minutes. Pooh had 4 in 26 minutes. “Unacceptable, Inexcusable, and Please.” Donte on the boards is just weak. With Pooh on the court, the team seems to have some direction. Play like this everynight and play the way we did against Dallas would make the rest of the reason livable.

by noreboundsnorings on Dec 9, 2010 7:50 AM PST reply actions  

I was thinking the same

and neither were DMC or Landry putting up strong rebounding performances. Luckily JT was a beast, Jackson very good and Caspi decent from the SF spot.

But ever mind that. I’m happy that Jeter is able to show his stuff. I hope he can keep it up. It makes for fun, more fluent basketball at the offensive side.

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by RikSmits on Dec 9, 2010 7:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Donté might've had 0 boards

But he was also guarding Thornton on the perimeter quite a bit. Donté is still showing vast improvement in rebounding this season, while Landry is on a whole new level of fail. Luther, Beno, and Pooh all rebound the ball on defense more than Carl. He’s last on the team at 9.1%.

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by Aykis16 on Dec 9, 2010 8:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Thornton kind of torched him

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by lietothegirls on Dec 9, 2010 9:10 AM PST up reply actions  

And most of the time, Thornton won't

He’s the definition of a streak shooter. You almost want him to be shooting jumpers over taking the ball inside, which is what Donté did. This time he was hitting his jumpers though.

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by Aykis16 on Dec 9, 2010 9:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Sorry, not a Pooh Jeter believer just yet

I remember when Darnell Jackson was tearing it up, and there were all the cries to move Thompson so he could get the lion’s share of minutes.

Jeter is still a guy that’s had trouble finding work in the league, and there’s a reason for that. We’ll see if he can maintain this kind of performance over time (and against different teams).

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by otis29 on Dec 9, 2010 8:58 AM PST up reply actions  

One thing I have to say for Pooh

He’s a very smart player and an extremely hard worker. He’ll never be better than a backup, but he could be a good one.

I’m a fan of his now, especially after watching him last night. A true leader on the floor.

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by Aykis16 on Dec 9, 2010 9:01 AM PST up reply actions  

I like what I've seen as well

But I liked what I saw from Darnell early in the season…looking at his numbers now, they have clearly regressed to what you expect from a guy that was roster filler.

I’m just not ready to pronounce him as a long term fit on the roster until he’s done it over a greater period of time.

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by otis29 on Dec 9, 2010 9:04 AM PST up reply actions  

And I can agree with that

But in the here and now, he’s making it tough to keep him out of the games, and for good reason. If anything, Pooh is showing the team how much a true pass first, up tempo guy, that can also hit his shots can help this team, and that might help the team out for future reference as well.

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by Aykis16 on Dec 9, 2010 9:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Absolutely

How can you argue with a style of play that is both more successful on the court and more entertaining for the fans? Seems like a no-brainer to me.

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by otis29 on Dec 9, 2010 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

I think the difference between Jeter and Jackson

is we are in real need of what Jeter specifically brings. Not saying he is a long term answer for the franchise but we definitely need someone who fulfills that role better than all the other options not named Jeter at the moment

I predict JT will never breathe through his nose.

by wallywagon11 on Dec 9, 2010 9:03 AM PST up reply actions  

That's a great point

And there are two guys I think that would be big upgrades to Pooh but bring the same type of energy and up tempo game out there: Ty Lawson and maybe Jonny Flynn.

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by Aykis16 on Dec 9, 2010 9:05 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't see Jonny Flynn as an upgrade

He really hasn’t proved a lot in the league.

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by NewEraKings on Dec 9, 2010 9:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree with this

But he’s a temporary bandaid IMO, not a cure. It certainly should give the Kings an idea of what might be a more successful approach on the floor, though.

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by otis29 on Dec 9, 2010 9:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Kyrie Irving would be my dream pick

As such, we won’t pick him/get screwed by ping pong balls.

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by Aykis16 on Dec 9, 2010 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

He might be out for the year with injury

according to reports. Injured his toe or foot or something.

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by lietothegirls on Dec 9, 2010 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Unless he comes back and dominates the tourney

…..that is clearly his best option.

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by pookeyguru on Dec 9, 2010 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

yes playing dominating basketball

always a fan of that option

I predict JT will never breathe through his nose.

by wallywagon11 on Dec 9, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Duke players...

From what I’ve noticed, Duke players have a tendency to stay an extra year. So chances are, he might not appear in this draft unless he stays ranked in the top 10. Player rankings are fickle, and a season ending injury could hurt his rank.

by M. Thai on Dec 9, 2010 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

You'd probably be nearly alone in that thought

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by lietothegirls on Dec 9, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

No, I'd have to agree with Aykis

I’d still draft him top 3, assuming he checks out fine in workouts.

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by 8thInningWeirdness on Dec 10, 2010 12:51 AM PST up reply actions  

After one good game against even decent college competition?

I think very few GM’s would agree at this point but I suppose it’s possible workouts might change that.

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by lietothegirls on Dec 10, 2010 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

My point before about shopping JT because of how Darnell was playing didn't have to do with getting D-Block "the lion's share of minutes".

Dally, Cuz, and Carl were soaking up most of the frontcourt minutes, and for whatever reason the coach was giving all of the “4th big” minutes to Jackson, and in my mind he was producing what we would want from him in that role. I wouldn’t say he was “tearing it up”, but he was playing hard on both ends, limiting mistakes, grabbing boards at a really good rate, and hitting some open jumpers.

JT, you’ll recall, was only getting spot minutes at various positions (including the miserable “JT at the 3” experiment), and was struggling. Even if his numbers weren’t too bad compared to Darnell’s, he looked to me to be committing all of the same mistakes on both ends that he has his whole career. I figured we should look to move JT while we could still get something in return, as it didn’t look good at the time for him to be able to earn a meaningful spot in the rotation

Of course, things have changed fairly drastically (which I suppose shouldn’t be too surprising, considering our roster full of middling/under-performing talent and a fickle coach), but I still think at least one of JT or Landry needs to be moved this season, as it probably doesn’t really make sense to have both of those guys long-term along with Cuz and Hassan, and we could probably flip one of those guys for an asset that will have better value for this team moving forward than what those guys give us on the court. Early in the season, I was sure that guy would have to be JT. Now, though, I really don’t know.

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by AnotherStupidSN on Dec 9, 2010 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

As for Pooh

he’s probably shown more in the past few games than Darnell has all season for us to feel good about (especially considering that he’s a rookie). But I don’t really expect him to do what he did last night on a consistent basis anytime soon. Coach seems to be pretty enamored with him, though, and he’s already in full-on “fuck it” mode when it comes to changing the lineup, so I wouldn’t really be shocked to see Pooh in the starting lineup soon. That probably wouldn’t be the best move, though (unless ’Reke sits some games).

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by AnotherStupidSN on Dec 9, 2010 10:03 AM PST up reply actions  

That could be the case, Tyreke sitting

even if the MRI comes back negative on the fracture, I think he could sit out. We have a 3 game road trip next week, and then a 2 week home stand with 5 games over the holidays. If he sits out the Miami game and the road trip he’d get 10 days rest. Then he’d only have 5 home games before now and the end of the year. That’s 5 games in 23 days and no traveling. He can stay home the entire time and get treatment.

After the 1st of the year we have a tough schedule. There are 29 games over 62 days in Jan. and Feb.

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by HighTops on Dec 9, 2010 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know that I'd disagree with that plan

I’m not sure he’s doing anyone any good right now and the time off may let him clear his head some as well.

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by lietothegirls on Dec 9, 2010 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Thing about JT

Is, whether you believe he’s ultimately underachieved to his draft slot or not, he’s put up consistent numbers (and especially over 36 minutes) that would indicate he’s going to play in the league for a long time. I don’t have a problem dealing JT, but I would have a problem dealing JT if the rationale was we could get Darnell Jackson to produce similarly – based on Darnell WAY overachieving for a few games versus his career to date.

Same deal with Pooh Jeter – although there is less data to go on, this guy was playing in the D-League at 26, and couldn’t find NBA employment this season outside of riding the pine for the lowly Sacramento Kings.

I’d just like to wait to pronounce him as even a small part of a successful rotation longterm until we see the inevitable struggles – and how bad those struggles will be.

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by otis29 on Dec 9, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

not all guys are stars

i really like JT and his game, as frustrating as he is sometimes. you need to have a solid backup 4/5 and JT is perfect for that role. i think the guy is far more valuable than landry for the simple fact that he can play both positions, rebounds, and defends. you need to have solid guys like that on your squad. i’m very happy he is starting now because i think he is the best 4 we have on the team at the moment. i would love to have a better option and he moves to the bench but the kings don’t have that kind of talent right now.

i lump JT in there with A.C. Green, Rambis, Joe Smith, (he isn’t at there level yet) etc. – they aren’t superstars but they are solid NBA players that bring consistency and intangibles.

by Madzillagd on Dec 9, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Definitely agree

Thompson gives this team more of what they need than Landry, and I’m satisfied with what he provides.

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by 8thInningWeirdness on Dec 10, 2010 12:54 AM PST up reply actions  

It's only one game

And it was against the Wizards, but they seemed a lot better without Dalembert. So far he hasn’t shown that he offers a lot more than the younger bigs on defense or the boards. Not enough to make up for the lack of offense.

by Rumskee on Dec 9, 2010 7:51 AM PST reply actions  

Gotta defend Sammy

I think he has been much better than anyone else on defense and the boards. His rebounding rate is outstanding. He has shut down a number of good post players that nobody else could guard. And he’s the only big man who consistently rotates to help on guys driving to the hoop.

I admit that I’m a bit disappointed in his lack of low-post skills, but I blame some of his ineffectiveness on offense on the play calling. We know he’s not a low-post player, so stop trying to feed him in the low post. When we don’t, I think he’s not that bad on offense. He sets good screens, can make midrange jump shots, and he’s a good passer from the high post. He’s another guy who plays better at a fast tempo. He makes good outlet passes, runs hard, and catches and finishes well on the move.

And with the current roster, I only want to see Landry play with Sammy. He’s the only guy on the team who can cover for Landry’s awful defensive rebounding. Then again, I’d rather re-sign Sammy than Landry, assuming we can get him for significantly less $$ than he makes now.

by kingsfan32 on Dec 9, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Small sample size

But in his 93 minutes of play, Pooh leads the Kings in field goal percentage, free throw percentage, assists and fewest fouls per 36 minutes. He’s also near the bottom in field goal attempts per 36 minutes.

This probably can’t last, but I love what he brings to the team on the court so far.

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by NewEraKings on Dec 9, 2010 7:54 AM PST reply actions  

His Offensive Rating of 126 leads the team too.

The Kings are at an Offensive Rating of 102.7 for the season, so that means that when Pooh is on the floor the team is about 23 points per 100 possessions better on offense. I love the energy and leadership he brings when he comes in.

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by Aykis16 on Dec 9, 2010 8:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I think Pooh has been making a good case for backup point guard, not just this year,

but going forward as well. He is definitely a backup, but he brings a lot of positive factors to the floor.

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by tomroadrunner on Dec 9, 2010 8:27 AM PST reply actions  

Agreed - the 2nd coming of Tyus Edney

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by section214 on Dec 9, 2010 8:35 AM PST up reply actions  

With a little B-Jaxx thrown in

He’s got that pull-up jumper down pat. Looks to pass way more than Bobby though.

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by Aykis16 on Dec 9, 2010 8:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow

Our 27 year-old scrapheap rookie point guard is the next great thing….after 93 minutes of play?

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by otis29 on Dec 9, 2010 8:59 AM PST up reply actions  

To be fair,

tomroadrunner isn’t comparing him to Rondo – he’s saying that he has been making a good case for hinself as a backup point guard. I agree with that. He’s not there yet, but he has recently been making a good case for himself.

One of two things happen when a guy like Luther Head or Pooh Jeter gets a shot – they either earn more minutes, or they earn less minutes. This week, Jeter has earned more minutes by showing that he has the potential to be a legitimate backup point guard in this league, in my opinion.

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by section214 on Dec 9, 2010 9:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Didn't say he did section

He did say imply that Pooh should be our 2nd string PG into next season. Just sayin’ – it’s a tad bit early to go there.

One of two things happen when a guy like Luther Head or Pooh Jeter gets a shot – they either earn more minutes, or they earn less minutes. This week, Jeter has earned more minutes by showing that he has the potential to be a legitimate backup point guard in this league, in my opinion.

Couldn’t agree more.

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by otis29 on Dec 9, 2010 9:07 AM PST up reply actions  

I think he'll get more minutes now to show

if he can be reasonably consistant. We’ll see. Love the way he pushes the ball though.

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by lietothegirls on Dec 9, 2010 9:09 AM PST up reply actions  

I know it's a small sample size, but he's shown qualities that fit in really well with the backup PG role.

He’s fast, and he’s not a turnover-machine. Of course, he’s not going to have a perfect ratio like he did tonight, but he doesn’t seem to whip the ball around willy-nilly either.

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by tomroadrunner on Dec 9, 2010 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Also, saying someone is making a good case for the job

doesn’t mean that it is being said that they are a lock. But his qualities (not experience per se) are making a very good case to be a backup role player with this franchise going forward.

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by tomroadrunner on Dec 9, 2010 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

It was also the Wizards

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by otis29 on Dec 9, 2010 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

This is true. Hence me saying that he won't have perfect ratios.

But he doesn’t play haphazardly. He plays fast, but he doesn’t get way out of control. Part of Sergio’s problem was that he would pair brilliance with stupidity. Pooh seems to be fairly steady, and that isn’t just drawn from this past game. In nearly every opportunity he has had, he seems to keep control of his game.

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by tomroadrunner on Dec 9, 2010 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Played good D the last few games as well

We need to have a guy that can pick up the pace. Sergio did that when he came in. The half court offense would grind to a halt and the second unit would come in and lift the team up.

I really like Pooh coming in and getting it done.

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by MustangMBS on Dec 9, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Sergio was even worse than Beno on D

and the fact that he couldn’t stay on the court in D’Antoni’s ‘no D’ system and went to Europe says a lot.

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by lietothegirls on Dec 9, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

we have a point guard

pooh jeter and beno so now we need a shooter one that makes his shot most of the time.
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I hear Rooster Cogburn's available

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by section214 on Dec 9, 2010 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

If you depression level is based on Kings wins/losses

I think I’m going to buy some Pfizer stock

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by vfettke on Dec 9, 2010 9:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Mario Elie

must have celebrated too much, got a DUI last night, per KHTK Twitter, retweeted by Jason Jones.

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by Rory Sparrow on Dec 9, 2010 9:51 AM PST reply actions  

Are you serious?

What is with this team. They need to go prohibition or something this is getting out of control

Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!

by prowseinthehouse on Dec 9, 2010 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

crap...

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by tomroadrunner on Dec 9, 2010 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

What does Ailene have to do with this?

Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!

by prowseinthehouse on Dec 9, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow, again, after all that has happened?

What a douche

I predict JT puts up 7 and 5 this year - Aug '10. (Current: 6.0 Pts 5 Rebs)

by bench_blob on Dec 9, 2010 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

We'll be at Arco lustily booing LaBron and company Saturday night.

(Where’s that Webber gif when you need it?) Still, if we pound it inside and pound it inside and pound it inside – it has a chance to be competitive.

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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
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by lietothegirls on Dec 9, 2010 11:02 AM PST reply actions  

We didn't do it against the Clips or Wiz, don't see it happening Saturday

Cuz is only averaging 3 fga’s at the rim even tho he’s averaging 72% there. Our 4 main bigs average less than 10 attempts in total, and we average 96 possessions per game. So, with our new 21ft of centers we haven’t gotten that much better down low.

For the record, Bogut and Howard lead all center with around 10 FGA’s inside 10 ft. And, the league average for centers who have played in at least 20 minutes in 10 games is 3.4 FGA’s at the rim and 2.7 more inside 10 ft. Cousins would rank 13th right behind Brook Lopez and right in front of Al Horford and Andrea Bragnani.

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by HighTops on Dec 9, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Both of those teams had at least some legit size inside

and at some point I think more of Cousins’ shots will go in, he’s due for a 8-12, 10-15 night.

Ya never know.

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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
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by lietothegirls on Dec 9, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Washington leads the league in points given up at the rim, but OK.

Mia is 2nd to Orl in fewest points giving up at the rim. And, Big Z and Dampier offer some pretty good size even if they aren’t the quickest.z

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by HighTops on Dec 9, 2010 11:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Then teams playing Miami

either aren’t playing to their strengths or they’re allowing very little guard penetration, which once again has little to do with any talent inside.

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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
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by lietothegirls on Dec 10, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

start pooh at PG

 beno plays zero defense. to much penetration. beno is PERFECT for coming off of the bench. gives you some scoring, just like landry and garcia. this is too easy westpahl, its pooh PG, evans SG, casspi thompson and cousins. maybe reke isnt a playmaker at the point. that sucks because most 2’s can shoot, reke better start making jumpers. pooh is better as a PG than reke or beno, how anybody can disagree with this is beyond me.

by manassamauler on Dec 9, 2010 3:29 PM PST reply actions  

This.

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by pookeyguru on Dec 9, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

He's what fans were hoping Sergio Rodriguez could be.

Too bad Sergio didn’t get it.

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by pookeyguru on Dec 9, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Sergio was more flash

while Pooh is a bit more substance. Hopefully he keeps it up.

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by Aykis16 on Dec 9, 2010 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

That's why I like Pooh.

He doesn’t make me wonder what if; he just gets the job done.

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by pookeyguru on Dec 9, 2010 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Beno wouldn't play for his National Team coming off the bench

because the player he was playing behind wasn’t as good as he was, in Beno’s opinion. I’m guessing he wouldn’t take it kindly if PW started a D-League rookie ahead of him.

Not that he could do anything about it. But, I like Beno starting and Pooh off the bench unless were going up against some extremely small and quick PG. I think Tyreke is comfortable working with Beno.

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by HighTops on Dec 9, 2010 11:28 PM PST up reply actions  

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