Mario Elie, Kings Release Statements on DUI Arrest
by Tom Ziller on Dec 9, 2010 12:28 PM PST
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PrintMario Elie and Sacramento Kings president Geoff Petrie have released statements on the assistant coach's Thursday morning DUI arrest.
Mario Elie:
"I was pulled over last night on my way home for having a broken taillight. I had been out and had a couple of drinks. My blood alcohol level was slightly over the legal limit. I’m very sorry, embarrassed and disappointed for the position in which I put myself and team. Rest assured, it won’t happen again as I take full responsibility for my actions."
Geoff Petrie, on behalf of the franchise:
"We are very concerned and disappointed in regard to Mario’s arrest for DUI. This is an ugly form of history repeating itself. We expect better, knowing at the same time there are limits to how far you can go to protect people from themselves. In spite of all of this, we still respect Mario’s right to due process."
For the record, for most people, slightly over the legal limit is drunk. A man of Elie's size needs 4-5 drinks over an hour to hit the legal limit in California (0.08 percent), according to BAC charts.
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Sorry but how could I not ask
A man of Elie’s size needs 4-5 drinks over an hour to hit the legal limit in California (0.08 percent), according to BAC charts.
Did you use his playing days weight to determine this?
I predict JT will never breathe through his nose.
Or, in other words
A couple as in two drinks would put him over the limit if he were 100-120 pounds. He’s clearly not.
He was 210 in his playing days
He’s probably about 220-230 now.
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220, 221 -
Whatever it takes.
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by section214 on Dec 9, 2010 2:19 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
In barefeet?
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by section214 on Dec 9, 2010 12:36 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
BAC charts are general approximations
At least that is what I’ve been told. Plenty of other factors can make the chart a very poor approximation.
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The moral of the story people
Make sure your taillights are in working order at all times!
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
by otis29 on Dec 9, 2010 12:41 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Better yet, don't drive if you have been drinking.
I was hit by a drunk many moons ago and went through physical therapy for many months, so my point of view is biased.
Hard work beats talent when talent is hardly working...
Damn, where's that /chasm I had in my pocket?
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
Make light of it
I would expect nothing better from either of you…
Hard work beats talent when talent is hardly working...
Actually...
I had written the exact statement that I was not making light of your accident, but it was erased from my comment as I surrounded it with a bracket (like you do for inserting HTML codes).
That being said, it was a pair of jokes and no malice was intended. If you are going to open yourself up on the internet you gotta develop some thicker skin.
I wasn't making light of it
I was being sarcastic about the initial part of his statement noting the reason he had been pulled over. Basically, he’s saying he wasn’t really a danger to anyone, which is ridiculous IMO.
A poor attempt at humor maybe, so I’ll certainly apologize if it rubbed you the wrong way. And sorry you had to go through the experience you did kromeace.
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
Don't mention it then.
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No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
sure it is.
I mean, not kromeace’s personal experience, but the situation in general, sure.
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
If you're going to drink either:
A) Do it at home
B) Have a ride arranged.
This is TOTALLY preventable with just minor planning. It’s truly inexcusable.
C) (my preferred choice) Do it within walking distance of home
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
also a good choice
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
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Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
Not AS much drinking as you thought
From the Office of Health and Safety Site: http://www.ohsinc.com/alcohol_abuse_addiction_bac_chart.htm
BAC of .08% and over
NOTE THAT SOME PEOPLE REACH THIS POINT BY THEIR 2ND DRINK AND ALL HAVE BY THEIR 3RD OR 4TH. (this is 12oz beers, 4 oz of wine or 1 1/4 oz of 80 proof alcohol) If you had two large beers somewhere, you are over the limit. It’s easier to reach than you suggested on the post.
by sctrojan22 on Dec 9, 2010 12:49 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
I agree...
Not excusing his behavior, but sometimes a 0.08% is hard to tell.
3 drinks the first hour, 2 drinks in the next…. DUI.
Not a lot.
3 drinks the first hour, 2 drinks the next, 2 the next hour, and none the next hour. An average of just over 1 drink an hour.
Still a DUI.
man, either I am an incredible light weight or...
by betweentheeyes on Dec 9, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
6'2" # 194
I think I am just a light weight
by betweentheeyes on Dec 9, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions
1.75 is way more than just over 1.0 drink per hour
and if people can’t count, get your own breathalyzer.
If your not 100% sure your under…Don’t effing drive.
I have no mercy for DUIs
There are some guys smarter than me, some guys better looking, I take comfort in the fact that there is no guy that is both.
by ElRonToro on Dec 9, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Rec
I have no mercy for DUIs
Right there with ya… Along with what I have posted already, I also work in hospitals with advanced wound care… you see some nasty things and it’s difficult to laugh about this or dismiss this easily.
Hard work beats talent when talent is hardly working...
rec'd
before some gets wrecked.
I am particularly disturbed by two items:
I am disappointed that Mario has tried to minimize this with his statement: My blood alcohol level was slightly over the legal limit
and that Mario Elie has a broken tail light. If I had a broken tail light I would get it fixed the next day if not that week. I sure as heck wouldn’t go out drinking “around” the legal limit.
Dumb mistake I just hope he learns from it. I have made many myself and will continue to make more. Sometimes experience means learning from our mistakes.
by betweentheeyes on Dec 9, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
"Sometimes experience means learning from our mistakes."
I must be approaching genius level.
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No, you'd have to be learning from your mistakes.
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by Aykis16 on Dec 9, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
Dammit,
there’s always one of those thingys that keeps you from getting one of those things just when you think that you’re going to get one of those things – what was I talking about – ooh, keys…shiny, jangly keys!
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Just sayin
and that Mario Elie has a broken tail light. If I had a broken tail light I would get it fixed the next day if not that week. I sure as heck wouldn’t go out drinking "around" the legal limit.
Considering he has a job that involves a lot of traveling and living in a city he probably does not call home in the offseason, I can see being stupid about taking care of one’s car with regular maintenance.
I predict JT will never breathe through his nose.
by wallywagon11 on Dec 9, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
and then forgetting about it
I predict JT will never breathe through his nose.
by wallywagon11 on Dec 9, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks
You got the info. I know I certainly have felt around limit not even finishing my 2nd drink. If your body is exhausted or haven’t had much to eat it can get you to the limit quicker. Still 5 drinks in two hours will certainly do it for most.
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Maybe he kept lining uo the drinks differently
and lost count.
Seriously though, if I;m the King;s I tell the coaches DUIs get you fired and the players DUIs get you 10 games suspensions (and battle it out eith the players assoc,)
There are some guys smarter than me, some guys better looking, I take comfort in the fact that there is no guy that is both.
At least this has taken our minds off of last night's loss
Oh, wait…
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by section214 on Dec 9, 2010 12:52 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
It's amazing how many people love to dwell on negativity.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Actually
I think it’s spawned some interesting conversations. This is one of those situations where occurrences in sports bring discussion of bigger societal issues.
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
I know it spawns conversations.
I rarely feel it does anything for me after the fact though.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I dunno
I could say that about pretty much every conversation around here. :)
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
There are some quality conversations.
And, there are other things.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
The way this team plays ...
it could drive a man to drink.
The judge should take that under consideration.
I have to drink just to watch the games,
can’t imagine how Elie could make it through his 2nd season with this team and NOT drink before, during, and after every game.
Sacramento is extremely active in terms of going after drunk drivers, which is not a bad thing, but something that takes some getting used to if you’re not from the area. You just don’t play with that here. And from what I’ve learned in my DUI classes (imagine that, right?), you don’t even have to be over the limit for them to take you to jail. You don’t even have to have been drinking at all for them to take you to jail on suspicion of DUI, its all within the officer’s perogitive if he’s suspicious of you being on “something”. Anyway, I don’t think Elie has anything to be ashamed of, it happens. He didn’t pull a Stallworth or anything, so all you “holier than though” judgemental thumpers, walk a mile before you criticize. His situation sucks, I know. He made a mistake, yeah, but Elie will learn from it and be a better person because of it…
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But he said he was slightly above the legal limit
Meaning he WAS drinking and should NOT have been driving… he wasn’t hauled off to jail on suspected DUI only to take a breathalyzer and be cleared because the cops made a mistake.
DUI’s are inexcusable. Period. There’s a local family where I’m from that I read about recently that has had 6 family members killed by drunk drivers throughout the last 10 years or something. SIX. In different accidents. All because people are too fucking stupid to NOT drink and drive.
".......and I guess he won the argument, but I walked away with the turnips!"
Point was to illustrate the lack of tolerance in town, Christina
not to excuse how he wasn’t “as drunk” or that the cop “thought” he might be drunk. And as described in the responses below, there’s differences across the country as to how cities and states tolerate and deal with alcohol. All I was trying to say was that in Sacramento, drunk driving isn’t tolerated at all, and as such, there’s a good portion of us here who have a DUI because of it. Not saying we’re any kind of victim, just saying it is what it is and he’s one of many here (and yes, thank goodness he DIDN’T run someone down in the streets.) The real concern is when an individual consistently continues to rack up DUI’s, because then they’re clearly not learning from their mistakes. I got mine in 2006 and haven’t driven drunk since (if we’re out and about, my wife and I take turns being the designated driver, or we simply don’t drink at all.) I’ve learned my lesson, and for what its worth I’ll give Elie the benefit of the doubt that he’ll have learned his as well…
"Indiviual results may vary, see participating stores for details...."
Sacramento is extremely active in terms of going after drunk drivers, which is not a bad thing, but something that takes some getting used to if you’re not from the area.
I was shocked the first time I left California and I was the only person who was not cool with road beers.
I predict JT will never breathe through his nose.
In Connecticut, your passengers are allowed to drink while you're driving.
Yet, you can’t buy wine or liquor at grocery stores (only beer) and can’t buy alcohol of any kind anywhere past 9pm or anytime on Sundays. It’s a weird (stupid) collection of laws.
"If you're going to lead the orchestra, you have to turn your back on the audience." -Geoff Petrie
by AnotherStupidSN on Dec 9, 2010 6:25 PM PST up reply actions
Texas has drive-through liquor stores. Crazy.
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
Funny
I needed to pick up some wine the other day for a dish I was cooking, and I was thinking how great it would be to have a drive-through liquor store so I wouldn’t have to get my kid out of the car in the cold. I guess I could move to Texas, but I don’t hate myself that much yet.
"If you're going to lead the orchestra, you have to turn your back on the audience." -Geoff Petrie
by AnotherStupidSN on Dec 9, 2010 8:33 PM PST up reply actions
Just leave your kid in the car!
You have a crate for that thing right?
Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!
by prowseinthehouse on Dec 9, 2010 10:11 PM PST up reply actions
Also true.
But don’t tell the Kings that or Vlade’s bus might come out of retirement and take a tour!
They are called Brew-Through's and they have a lot of them in the south
"If my aunt had a set of nuts, she'd be my uncle"
That's bizarre
I think I’m good with California laws like being able to buy alcohol until 2am/bars staying open til 2am…. course, a passenger drinking isn’t really a hazard, per se (depending on the individuals involved, obviously). Sometimes they do it without the driver’s permission…it happened to me over summer. I was driving two new friends back to their place up in Tahoe (they worked at a summer camp that an organization I volunteer for rents out for a week) and despite the fact that he had been drinking for like 10 straight hours he managed to trick me and open a beer in the car while I was driving. Luckily nothing happened, and he was Australian and possibly didn’t know it was a pretty big no-no here, but ya know.
".......and I guess he won the argument, but I walked away with the turnips!"
holier than thou?
let’s see – when I was 18 i stopped at a gas station. a drunk driver attempted to make a left turn at the intersection i was at… going about 50 mph and lost control. slammed into my car and left my sister & i on top of 2 gas pumps. car totalled but luckily we weren’t seriously hurt. drunk driver took off to be caught a little while later.
had i gotten out of my car 1 second earlier or if the automatic gas shut off hadn’t worked properly i’d be dead right now. so sorry – don’t have any tolerance for people even making 1 ‘mistake’ when it comes to drinking & driving.
by Madzillagd on Dec 10, 2010 9:31 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
And Mitch Germann says: I need a drink. This is going to be a long night.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I guess that Nocioni was already in the bar,
taking shots.
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by section214 on Dec 9, 2010 2:04 PM PST reply actions 5 recs
I take it at least some of those shots hit their target.
Those who walk on eggshells rarely leave footprints.
by SierraSpartan on Dec 9, 2010 2:23 PM PST up reply actions
Not Nocioni. He's got a drinking problem.
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on Dec 9, 2010 3:58 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah, I don't really like the tone of Elie's statement.
Aside from what has already been pointed out about how many drinks he was likely to have had to be “slightly over the legal limit”, if a cop pulls you over for a broken taillight , he’s not going to stick a breathalyzer in your face right away. I’m sure there had to be some reason for the officer to suspect that Elie was over the limit (swerving before he pulled over, smelled like booze, slurred when he spoke, etc.). I’m not perfect, myself, but it bugs me when what should be an apology sounds more like an excuse.
"If you're going to lead the orchestra, you have to turn your back on the audience." -Geoff Petrie
by AnotherStupidSN on Dec 9, 2010 4:50 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Maybe
But I think he’s trying to make it clear he was not a 2.0-plus drunk. Doesn’t excuse it, but if you don’t clarify it, people will jump to conclusions about how drunk he was. And there is a big difference between legal drunk and totally wasted.
"It really was amazing to see the difference in this team when Pooh was out there moving the ball. Crisp passing, set plays, movement, and Oh yeah, SMILES & PASSION exhibited by the other players on the floor."
I do not think there is much of a difference.
I really do not like the fact that he made excuses in his statement. I do not expect he will be head coaching the Kings anytime soon.
pretty sure he would be dead at a 2.0
I predict JT will never breathe through his nose.
by wallywagon11 on Dec 10, 2010 8:11 AM PST up reply actions
Damn, your lucky to have .08%
I’m in Melbourne AUS, and the limit is .05% (Standard average drink ratio for average size person (male) is two drinks for first hour, one after that (all decent alcoholic beverages are more than a stand drink size).
Average lady is 1 drink every hour.
I think that you are more lucky, and people like Mario, who judging from his size could down a few more than average (just an estimate, because alcohol affects everybody differently), so therefore, especially a man with a significant profile and position as he, should be a lot wiser than this!!! No excuses.
Especially since it seems to happen every year!
Well then you know about this commercial...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2mf8DtWWd8
This hits home… at some point we all think it is OK, just had one or two…
Hard work beats talent when talent is hardly working...
by kromeace on Dec 9, 2010 10:25 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Nocioni, Wright, Ellie...
Who is next, K. Johnson, Napier or the Kings Lion mascot?
I don't think KJ drinks
My money’s on Slamson.
"If you're going to lead the orchestra, you have to turn your back on the audience." -Geoff Petrie
by AnotherStupidSN on Dec 10, 2010 5:16 AM PST up reply actions
Getting it right...
My wife is from Norway so I spend a good deal of time there. They basically have a zero tolerance policy there – legal limit is .02 so folks know even having 1 drink and driving will get you busted.
furthermore, on the penalty side they fine you based on your income. last year a rich guy was fined $109,000 for a DUI. you get a few weeks in jail doing hard labor. lose your license for a year and a 2nd offense and you lose your license for life.
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