Post-Game Thread: Kings at Nuggets
by Tom Ziller on Feb 1, 2010 8:45 PM PST
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Fuck.
We had it.
Remember folks, I'm almost always wrong.
My sig was too long...
by Scott Coleman on Feb 1, 2010 8:52 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Oh Kings
Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"
by 49er16 on Feb 1, 2010 8:53 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
or Cole Aldrich....
I’m more interested in what Spencer can do in the next game..
by getPGwithbounce on Feb 1, 2010 9:26 PM PST up reply actions
Aldrich is earth bound plodder
…no thanks.
DeMarcus Cousins and Evan Turner impressed me over the weekend. Two players to watch.
Don't know why we held for the last shot
being down by 2 – we missed it and the game was over. Shoot it quickly and if we miss we still have a chance for redemption.
"I hate all sports as rabidly as a person who likes sports hates common sense."
-H.L. Mencken
He didn't get tackled.
He went all herky jerky to try to get the call
He didn't get tackled
it was barely a foul. Usually that won’t get called at the end of a close game.
www.mancancook.net
unless your name is Kobe Bryant
or LeBron James. But then again, they don’t flop like that, they go strong to the hole in the clutch.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
asked and answered
I should know better…
by betweentheeyes on Feb 1, 2010 10:12 PM PST up reply actions
during the game his speed and pump fakes get him points
but during the clutch moments (ie. when we LOSE) is when defenses clamp down, and since
he can’t pass well or dribble very well, he just has an epileptic seizure and tries to fling the ball up, throw his arms and legs out for any contact …..its an ugly and weak ass play which also makes the final shot damn near impossible. and he NEVER will get the call. Refs know he’s doing and so do the other players. And around and around we go … where Clutch Kev stops, nobody knows.
THIS IS WE THE TEAM HAS TYREKE EVANS ON THE ROSTER
AND THAT IS WHY YOU WILL BE QUIET NOW
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
Nice use of CAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPS
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 1, 2010 9:38 PM PST up reply actions
Wow, that's true anger
"Thou must give props" - Ice_9ine
by tomroadrunner on Feb 2, 2010 8:14 AM PST up reply actions
Trolling by section214
Trolls aren’t just newbies looking to come in and hit and run. They can be folks that have been around that just wait to rile everyone up. This would be the person that says nothing while Tyreke Evans scores 25 points and grabs 8 rebounds and dishes out 7 assists, but he chimes in on the thread during each of Evans’ 3 turnovers to say, "See, he’s not a point guard." Again, you’re entitled to your opinion. But if that is going to be the only opinion that you share, you’re going to be labeled a troll. Oh, and accusing others of "group think" when you can’t get anyone to agree with you is weak. Take that to another site
The future begins now...
You're right
The pro-Martin trolls have taken over the site.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 1, 2010 9:40 PM PST up reply actions
HAHAAAHHAAAAHAHAAAA
Whew…another gutbuster from CCR.
Oh wait, did you bust out “I know you are but what am I?” for the 10,000th time?
"When you look at him, you say: 'Holy God.'" - Pete Carril on Tyreke Evans
Wait till you read further down
and he busts out the 1st grade joke. It’s good stuff.
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
I knew I smelled a whiny ass bitch in here.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 1, 2010 9:51 PM PST up reply actions
personal attacks ftw.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
DaUconnDon? Where?
"When you look at him, you say: 'Holy God.'" - Pete Carril on Tyreke Evans
by otis29 on Feb 1, 2010 10:01 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Badabing, and badaREC'd!
"Thou must give props" - Ice_9ine
by tomroadrunner on Feb 2, 2010 8:15 AM PST up reply actions
What a ridiculous last play by K-Mart. You can’t expect a foul call like that in the last 10 seconds of an overtime game.
the sacramento kings: where joel przybilla happens
Or at all in this game it seems...
that is all..
by OrangeLazarus on Feb 1, 2010 8:57 PM PST up reply actions
Martin
shot 11 FTs. He got his calls. He has to learn to go strong at the end of the game though.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Exactly
I notice toward the end of Kings games, the Kings tend to play “ref ball” more than Basketball. Always looking at the ref, instead of the rim.
Terrible losses don't faze me anymore.
I’m a Giants/Kings fan. What would life be without horrendous failure?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
If the Raiders can win in Denver
I thought surely the Kings could too.
Follow on Twitter - @MAD_Marvin
Last Giants WS win:
1954. Sorry, you have a Super Bowl in living memory. I have a vilified childhood hero and squat else.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
SF Giants
F the NY Giants.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
I see you confusion.
San Francisco Giants. Not really a football guy. When I do root for a football team, it’s either Fresno State of the KC chiefs. Also not good.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
2 game 6s though
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
You say that like it improves matters.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
same year too.
Man, we have a lot of concentrated disappointment in our sports fandom.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
I remember watching the Kings' game at Matt Jarvenin's house...
Ran screaming into the street on several occasions.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I remember swearing a lot in the 4th quarter.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Uhhh
Winning a championship in the late 90’s, a Kings/Giants fan would take that any day…
by OrangeLazarus on Feb 1, 2010 9:01 PM PST up reply actions
dissapointing yes
Terrible, not really… Would you have put money on the Kings winning this one before tipoff? It was a good effort, overtime losses just suck that extra life out of you but it wasn’t a “terrible” loss. It looked more like a “we need more experience” loss.
by OrangeLazarus on Feb 1, 2010 8:59 PM PST up reply actions
Bleq a pretty big lead.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
For the love of Christ
can we please run an actual play at the end of a close game that Tyreke’s not playing in? I’m fine with that play if ‘Reke has the ball, but if not the Kings need to move the ball and get a good shot. That’s what kept them in this game. Why change the game plan from what works?
www.mancancook.net
Especially when you have one guy with the ball and everyone else stands around
PW’s special.
I’m with vfettke, it’s pretty damn tiresome at this point.
This and that.
"I hate all sports as rabidly as a person who likes sports hates common sense."
-H.L. Mencken
Especially when you don't run a play
They should’ve ran something with Spencer who hit a few big shots. When Spencer’s playing well and is confident he’s dangerous
www.mancancook.net
This.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Unless your name is Aaron How Do Spell His Last Name?
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 1, 2010 9:09 PM PST up reply actions
afflalo
I got to see him play while he was in college. Home team actually pulled off a win against him, he had one of the worst games of his start. Funny enough, the team he struggled against succeeded by playing an incredibly slow pace.
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
I would've been happier with Casspi or Hawes with the last shot.
Weren’t they the Kings with the hot hands???
I feel like it’s last season all over again with Kev in clutch situations. eh…
Come back soon, ’Reke. We need you EXACTLY for moments like this.
Hawes was impressive tonight. Go Kings.
33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.
but we have seen tyreke fail in these exact situations
Perhaps it is not Kevin’s fault or Tyreke’s fault, perhaps we should actually run a damn play instead of watching one of our players go one on one for sixteen seconds. Why does a back door cut work in the third quarter but we would never dream of it in the last few seconds?
JT
And the slump continues… Hawes and Brockman looked nice though…
P.S. the game wasn’t blown at the end, it was blown in the 3rd quarter.
You are right! 3rd Quarter again
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
This is why we need Tyreke
Kevin isn’t clutch
by White Brocklate on Feb 1, 2010 8:59 PM PST up reply actions
I disagree. I'd be comfortable with either Martin or Evans taking the last shot.
There can only be one Noce!
Not Kevin
obviously you don’t try and get a call on your last shot when you’re in Denver. You have already gone 2-0 against Denver and there is no way the refs are going to let you win in that scenario.
by White Brocklate on Feb 1, 2010 9:05 PM PST up reply actions
We are talking about clutchness right?
Well, I’d have no problems with KMart getting the call for the gamewinning shot. I think he (along with Evans) gives us the best chance of winning the game. That being said, maybe what he did tonight wasn’t the best possible play but if we were to play that same scenario 100 times, I’d give the ball to Kevin 100 times.
There can only be one Noce!
I wouldn't
not anymore. Not until he learns to go strong or pull up.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
I'd rather
see Spencer get the ball in the high post and have Kevin try to move for an open shot. THEN I’d want the ball in Kevin’s hands. But if someone’s going to drive in the closing seconds, I’d rather see Beno than Kevin.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
I agree
not a very creative play call
by White Brocklate on Feb 1, 2010 9:18 PM PST up reply actions
Couldn’t agree more.
Then again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVeS0kVXxtc
the sacramento kings: where joel przybilla happens
Agree, Kevin Martin is the Kings best shooter, sans-Tyreke, he needs to take the last shot
by Pollard4LIfe on Feb 1, 2010 11:35 PM PST up reply actions
Martin has a high TS% because of the 3's and fouls, but he has a low % of made to attempted baskets only 40%
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
it's not so much
that Kevin isn’t clutch, it’s that refs tend to swallow their whistles at the end of close games, and getting calls off contact like that is a HUGE part of Kevin’s game.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
+1
No doubt, a bulldog like Tyreke gets his shot off of there might have to be actual foul call worthy contact with his body driving the lane.
by OrangeLazarus on Feb 1, 2010 9:03 PM PST up reply actions
Why is it
That a guy whose name I can’t even spell can win the game for the Nuggets and Kevin
Martin can’tt for the Kings? Please answer that one for me.
Next time, please draw up a play for Sergio.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 1, 2010 8:58 PM PST reply actions
Fine
Just put it in your third-rate star’s hands instead.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 1, 2010 8:59 PM PST up reply actions
Why not?
and he’s not third string in this game.
by White Brocklate on Feb 1, 2010 9:00 PM PST up reply actions
he did a lot of good in the first half
and a lot of bad in the second.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Sergio
should never shoot. He should have a special class for himself: “Pass-only PG”
"I hate all sports as rabidly as a person who likes sports hates common sense."
-H.L. Mencken
Ok Spencer
That was singlehandedly the worst hail mary I have ever seen. Just think if the Kings made that shot. I know it wouldn’t happen, but you don’t just heave the ball away to end the game. Seriously Spencer. That was awful.
But really...
Did you see the replays, there was not one player open, clock winding down, a shot is better than no shot and he got one off. Without Spencer the Kings aren’t even close in this one. Give the kid some love…
by OrangeLazarus on Feb 1, 2010 9:04 PM PST up reply actions
I think
he’s talking about the in bounds pass at the end of the game
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Yes I am
I am very dissapointed. Chauncey accidentally makes the free throw and you pretend like he didn’t. What a waste of an opportunity.
by White Brocklate on Feb 1, 2010 9:19 PM PST up reply actions
im not sure Im in the same conversation.
aren’t we talking about the in bounds pass at the end of the game?
There can only be one Noce!
I hope that drink helped you.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
I can't get too worked up
About him screwing up a play that required a miracle with less than a second on the clock.
"When you look at him, you say: 'Holy God.'" - Pete Carril on Tyreke Evans
bull shit comment dude
Spencer was hawesome all game long, and you are going to fault a play with 0.7 seconds left? Look no further that JT if you want to find why our frontline sucks so bad, not Spencer.
Turnovers gave it away on the third
They fought to come back but should’v been able to pull away. We are not there yet unfortunately. Shit happens
The future begins now...
As Westphal said in his post-game interview...
“We fouled too much and turned it over too much.”
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
It was clear
The too much fouling happens throughout the game. We got them in the penalty way too early. even then though, they missed a lot of FTs.
As for the turnovers, that’s clearly when we lost it in the 3rd. We knew they were going to make a run but we made it easier for them. Check the play-by-play on the 3rd and you’ll see, there’s a TO pretty much every other 2 plays.
Not to simplify but to me personally, fouling too much = bad defense by everyone and too many turnovers in one period = being young. Of course, for some I’m just making excuses
The future begins now...
2nd game in a row, were the margin at the FT line was greater than the difference of the score
We actually out scored Denver from the floor by +1, were out scored at the FT line -4, and lost the game by -3
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
Most importantly
Serg did well for much of the game. He gave us our big lead, but also helped give it away.
Considering this was the longest prime time burn he’s gotten in months- not bad. Hopefully PW gives him more PT in the coming weeks so we can get a better sense of him.
"I hate all sports as rabidly as a person who likes sports hates common sense."
-H.L. Mencken
Further, when he didn't play well
He was either shooting (airballs) and failing to push the ball into the paint.
Learn from your mistakes, son – and come back with your chin up.
"I hate all sports as rabidly as a person who likes sports hates common sense."
-H.L. Mencken
That's the problem with him
He’s black or white, hot or cold. It’s tough on the coaching staff to determine his minutes. That’s why he does so well when we have nothing to lose
The future begins now...
Yup, he makes some ridiculous decisions at times
Which makes me cringe – especially being an outspoken supporter of him.
But at the same time – when have the Kings ever been as exciting this year as they were in the 2nd? If only we could catch that in a bottle…
"I hate all sports as rabidly as a person who likes sports hates common sense."
-H.L. Mencken
But he's a kid
A very young point guard. I think at his age he’s shown enough flashes of potential to get some consistent burn.
"When you look at him, you say: 'Holy God.'" - Pete Carril on Tyreke Evans
agree
with a very short leash.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
eh
Short leashes have always killed potential. Young’ns need to make mistakes to learn.
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
heh
The whole NBA needs to figure out that balance.
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
Haha
Well, except for contenders. You don’t want Duncan minutes going to Blair do you? Yes, I just went there
The future begins now...
Tim Duncan's minutes are pre-ordained in the universal flow
Therefore, Tim Duncan’s minutes only go to Tim Duncan…
but, as a caveat: say Blair hasn’t been as effective as he has been, do you spend more minutes getting him burn in the hopes you can bring him up to speed for the playoffs? Or, since he has been so effective – do you keep playing him as much as possible (even if the whole team is healthy, and cut down on McDyess’s minutes) in the hopes you’ll have an even better soldier for the playoffs?
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
donno about that
good performance allows the leash to grow, but when Sergio is off, it completely kills the offense. I’d say more than if any other player is off.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Frankly...
Sergio is a marginal talent. I don’t get the love affair with this guy. He’s lucky to be getting playing time. He makes one bad play for every good play. Thats kind of ratio does not win you games.
I get the love affair
At the beginning of the season, when Sergio and Donte got subbed in simultaneously, it instantly meant an alley-oop would happen in the next few plays. There was at least six of those in the first 10 games (impressive when you consider how little they played then).
That said, I’ve always been of the opinion (since the Kings traded for him) that Sergio was great for the Kings – he’d make exciting basketball happen, and he’ll also help the Kings get a higher draft pick. Maybe he can contribute to winning, but that’ll take time and development. If you like the way Sergio plays, then you would like to see him get the time to develop into a winning bball player.
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
i don't think alot of people really have much of a love affair with Sergio
I just think alot of people see he has a high PER, look at his age, see that he does well in a transition game, and would just like to see him get a few more minutes just to see if that PER really means anything. That’s about it. I for one would prefer to see him get some consistent play for awhile. Could he suck ass? Of course, but I think it’s worth seeing what he is.
I might be biased here because i was living in the oregon/washington area for the past 5 years and saw how sergio was a terrible terrible fit for the blazers. They moved at such a slow pace and never went out on the fast break. Always felt he had some talent but it was a shame he didn’t fit in and was hoping it would work out here.
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 1, 2010 11:01 PM PST up reply actions
How do you figure?
He is much more in the positive than negative… Sure he made 4 baskets and missed 7, but that is better than some others on the floor. Not too bad. He also made 6 assists to his 4 TOs and had 2 steals and 3 rebs. He brings the team and offense to life and gets people passing and moving. He definitely adds more than he negates…
Sergio's probably the best 3rd string PG in the league
and the Kings got him!
by Pollard4LIfe on Feb 1, 2010 11:38 PM PST up reply actions
Don't compare him to what a perfect PG should be, compare him to Beno
Sergio was a +6, Beno was a -8
Sergio scored 8pts, Beno scored 7pts
Sergio shot 36%, Beno shot 33%
Sergio had 6asts in 24min (1 every 4 mins), Beno had 5 asts in 31min.(1 every 6mins)
Sergio had 4 turnovers(1every 6mins), Beno had 5 turnovers(1 every 6 mins)
Sergio had 2 rebs, Beno had 4 rebs.
As bad as Sergio might have looked, Beno was just as bad or worse.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
They were both really bad in long stretches
Unfortunately for Sergio, Beno has the nearly unmovable long-term contract.
Free Omri...trade.Noc.
The point is
unless Sergio is really good, he has no future here, because Beno is staying, and you only need so many backup point guards.
Free Omri...trade.Noc.
in this game.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
No bad at all...more minutes than he is used to playing.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
But can they out-stare the likes of Sam Cassell?
Dude, when he looks at me, it’s like he’s sucking out my brain or something.
There can only be one Noce!
by NoceOne on Feb 1, 2010 9:01 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
How many times have I heard that before?
It seems like a recurring theme
by White Brocklate on Feb 1, 2010 9:01 PM PST up reply actions
I'd love how this loss would be put on Kevin or Spencer
when they actually were who kept us in the game.
The future begins now...
I agree
We would have won this game if Tyreke could have played for the last 2 minutes
by White Brocklate on Feb 1, 2010 9:02 PM PST up reply actions
is this the part where we wonder why Nocioni wasn't playing more?
or not yet?
by betweentheeyes on Feb 1, 2010 9:02 PM PST up reply actions
Im just surprised he got 21 mins tonight.
I think Noce is a solid 6-12mins vet who can play for around 20mins against very specific matchups.
But please, no talk of 30mins PT and a starting job for him. I think we all know this is the role suited best for him.
There can only be one Noce!
It's been demonstrated pretty well
that the Kings compete very well generally when Noc gets decent minutes.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 1, 2010 9:20 PM PST up reply actions
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
by Viliphied on Feb 1, 2010 9:23 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
to expand
Noc gets minutes when he’s playing well. So, what you’re really saying is that a team with very few consistent players does well when one of its most inconsistent players plays well.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
by Viliphied on Feb 1, 2010 9:30 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I also agree with that.
But, like a lot of people here pointed out, player development seems to be as big a consideration here as winning.
With Noce seemingly not in the Kings long term plans, its easier to justify playing those guys who can help the team in the years to come.
There can only be one Noce!
Kevin Martin
made two field goals after halftime. Next argument please.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 1, 2010 9:05 PM PST up reply actions
Consider the source
I’m waiting for: “The Kings have never won a game when trailing and Kevin misses the last shot”.
"When you look at him, you say: 'Holy God.'" - Pete Carril on Tyreke Evans
That is 100% true.
I wish we had a better record in those situations.
22 pts
6 ast 5 reb 1 to.
Yup, Kevin’s why we lost. Definitely.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
KMart is still not himself though
it seemed like he passed up a few shots he should have taken. I hate it when he passes it to a guarded Beno with 5 seconds left in the shot clock — like Beno is going to be able to shake his man and find a quality shot with 5 seconds left.
by Pollard4LIfe on Feb 1, 2010 11:41 PM PST up reply actions
He was also sitting for that horrible 3rd quarter.
Next argument please.
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
He started the third quarter
When our decline started.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 1, 2010 9:19 PM PST up reply actions
Generally happens when a player plays 47 minutes
That every second he plays isn’t going to result in his team having positive point earnings.
Look, Kevin hardly had a great game. Statistically, this was a bad game for Kevin. But to say he was responsible for this loss is unnecessary.
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
Nobody blamed him for the loss
He just can’t get you the win in crunch time. He can get you 22 points on 17 shots in 47 minutes, he just can’t make the shots when the game is on the line. Give it to someone else.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 1, 2010 9:57 PM PST up reply actions
Yes. That's why the team has Tyreke Evans.
I haven’t defended Martin as a go-to scorer, but this quote:
Why is it
That a guy whose name I can’t even spell can win the game for the Nuggets and Kevin
Martin can’tt for the Kings? Please answer that one for me.
made me assume you were blaming Kevin, but looking closely at the whole comment it seems you were blaming PW. No complaints there. However, others are more than ready to blame Kevin (ptgolden).
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I know it’s frowned upon to criticize kings players on here, but I reserve the right as a sports fan to be upset when my team loses, especially when the most critical possessions of the game were blown so badly. A for effort and all that, but why not let people vent without the snark?
Sorry. As a longtime reader that bothers me about this site sometimes.
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No one said you can't criticize
But being overly critic towards the two guys that actually had decent games?
The future begins now...
better than decent
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
I didn’t say anything about Spencer Hawes. I thought he played his best game of the season.
I think Kevin Martin didn’t play well in the second half, particularly on defense. And maybe it was the play calling, but his isos at the end of OT were really bad plays considering the circumstances.
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Defense?
He’s not a good defender, but the plays tht he needed to play well on D, he did. He played Bilups as tough as you could on that missed 3 in regulation and Alfallo’s shot was a good step back move. I’m not trying to antagonize but you can’t judge him by what people say about him. If you truly saw bad defense, that’s your right. I didn’t see great, but I didn’t see bad either.
The future begins now...
He was lucky that Billups shot didn't go in
He got exactly the shot he wanted, when he wanted, and it went in and out. The best thing you can say is he didn’t let him get a layup and he didn’t foul him.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 1, 2010 9:18 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah those plays were about all that he could do. I’m talking more about 1) lazy fouls he made near the end of either regulation or OT (sorry, wasn’t taking notes) and 2) the constant gambling that rarely pays off.
Yes, I know he’s 9 games back from an injury. I’m not trying to put the whole second half on his shoulders. But with Tyreke out, Kevin’s our best player, and that comes with expectations. He did not play as well as he should have near the end of the game.
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Don't worry about it
Expectations are pretty low here. Come back in a couple of years and read the same excuses over and over.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 1, 2010 9:25 PM PST up reply actions
???
Were you expecting playoffs this year?
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Not necessarily agreeing with CC, but I don’t think it’s unreasonable to be upset with losses like this. I like it when the Kings win basketball games. It bugs me when, young team or not, they make stupid mistakes like blowing close games and coughing up a dozen turnovers in a quarter. Always has for the 20 years I’ve watched this team, always will.
It’s not that I’m not happy with the progress we’ve made this season, but the backlash on this site against any criticism can sometimes be overblown. I (almost) long for the days of this site a few years ago when you could say “God the Kings suck” in peace!
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lots of people have said the Kings sucked in peace
but when the whole team drops a deuce, I really don’t see the sense in trying to demand that an individual has to pick up the plunger.
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
Well, the whole team did NOT drop a deuce tonight. They played toe to toe with an elite western conference team, and had one half of the best ‘reke-less offense that anyone could have hoped for. No, Kevin Martin didn’t make every turnover in the second half, but he did have his ball in his hands for the final possession and he blew it.
If he would have made the shot, I would be a happy camper right now. I’ll take an ugly win over an encouraging loss. Like I said, I like it when the Kings win basketball games. I reserve the right not to like it when they lose.
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If he would have made the shot, I would be a happy camper right now.
All I needed to know.
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What’s wrong with that? It was an awful play that wouldn’t have been good had it gone in, but the Kings might have won the game. Are you suggesting that I’m some kind of simpleton because I enjoy my favorite team winning? I really don’t understand.
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Nah
We just have different opinions. You base your opinion on that one shot, and I don’t. Simple enough, we can disagree on that, right?
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
That’s a very unfair statement. I wasn’t making any comments on Martin’s entire game, I think he played fine. What is so wrong with potentially being happy that the Kings pull out a close game in OT off a bad shot?
If that had happened, I would be happy because the Kings squeaked one out. I wouldn’t be going around hailing every decision made the whole game by every player, I would just be glad that we got a road win and broke a losing streak.
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Don't expect fairness
if you do dare to criticize Kmart there. He’s got compromising pictures of half the folks on the site.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 1, 2010 10:03 PM PST up reply actions
he's not your buddy, guy
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
i'm not your friend, buddy
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
by Viliphied on Feb 1, 2010 10:07 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This is a CCR standard
It used to happen all the time during the Artest days. Ron-Ron would have a good game, and CCR would build up his post count.
Ron-Ron would skip a game in Miami or smack the wife around…CCR’s 14.4k modem would mystically go up in smoke.
Kevin missing a shot is like Pavlov ringing the bell.
"When you look at him, you say: 'Holy God.'" - Pete Carril on Tyreke Evans
Haha
Ron-ron missed the game-winner tonight too.
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
Otie
Now there’s a guy who can repeat teh same thing over and over and still get a thrill. Just don’t expect him to address the point.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 1, 2010 10:15 PM PST up reply actions
Geez you did it again
You should write a book.
And what is your point exactly? I figured you were just rubbing everyone’s face in your anti-Kevin celebration. It really is standard operating procedure for you.
"When you look at him, you say: 'Holy God.'" - Pete Carril on Tyreke Evans
So you judging Kevin's whole game
on that last play? If you are, that’s your right. I just don’t think many will agree with that.
The future begins now...
You are really overblowing what I said. I didn’t say anything about Martin having a terrible game. I’m commenting on the fact that he flailed around instead of going through any kind of offense on the most important play of the game. I also made some comments on his defense that you might not agree with.
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No worries
Disagreements happy. I’m just having a tough time understanding your point of view. It happens, no big deal
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You really set yourself up
for the Kmart support team hit squad.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 1, 2010 10:01 PM PST up reply actions
I don't see how you can say that
after edm7 already commented “No worries”
C’mon dude… relax.
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I agree about this being Spencer's best game of the season.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Nocioni is either on or off
He either shoots really well or kills the team with tons of missed threes. He played well tonight, but you can’t risk him going cold in overtime
In the last 5 games, Noce has gone...
3-3, 0-0, 1-3, 2-6 and 1-1 from 3pt land.
Tonight, he hit 3 straight threes sandwiched around an assist to Casspi in the big 2nd quarter run where we converted a 12 point deficit into a 14 pt lead.
And he missed 2 twopointers in the 3rd.
And all you can say is he will miss 20 straight 3pointers in the next game. Such negativity.
You, sir, are a Noce-hater.
There can only be one Noce!
by NoceOne on Feb 1, 2010 9:17 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I take it that you like Noce.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
I do.
And what gets my goat are people who disguise their biases in basketball terms. So you don’t like him. Ok, fair enough but to make assumptions on preconceived notions without basis…
I can totally get people who say “Let’s trade KMart for Lebron/DWade/DHoward” but not those who say “Let’s trade KMart coz he suckz!”
There can only be one Noce!
I don't have a problem with Noce
In fact, I like him.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
But I agree with you about the people who say things like trading Martin.
It just doesn’t make sense to knock a really good player if he misses a basket. Noc made some great baskets tonight.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Sorry, didn't mean to refer to you.
It’s certain other people I don’t get.
There can only be one Noce!
Oh, and how many threes did he miss in OT?
In fact, how many threes did he miss the entire game tonight.
You, sir, are a Noce-hater.
There can only be one Noce!
by NoceOne on Feb 1, 2010 9:14 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Noc had a very good game tonight.
Anybody who says otherwise just dislikes him.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Noc had a very good game tonight.
Anybody who says otherwise just dislikes him.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Im probably the only one who noticed this...
…since I’m the Nocioni diehard, but hasn’t Noce been playing way better D lately?
He had 2 blocks tonight plus good D against the big Nuggets frontline, a block and a steal in 6 mins against the Bobcats, a block and some very good D on Kirilenko (forcing him to miss 5 straight shots after a 6-8 start) and 3 blocks and 9 rebounds in 19mins against GS.
The offense might not be all there yet but his defense seems to be coming back.
There can only be one Noce!
Kevin Martin = NaTE
Not a Tyreke Evans
by #12Pick...who? on Feb 1, 2010 9:07 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Well....tough loss.
Just don’t start with all the trade Kmart BS again.
KINGS WILL BE 09-10 CHAMPIONS
Al Jefferson!
Hey now!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Denver had better trade Billups then
"When you look at him, you say: 'Holy God.'" - Pete Carril on Tyreke Evans
64% True shooting,
not bad.
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
by nothingbutnet on Feb 1, 2010 10:17 PM PST up reply actions
um, what?
I get 50.3%
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
We can bitch about inconsistency...
But that’s what these young Kings are all about. Beno is the only player (save for Tyreke) to demonstrate a level of regularity in his play. I don’t know if it’s youth, the coach, the player’s nature or what. Suppose youth is a good bet.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Beno led this game
Yeah led in the number of turnovers… shots 33% FGs, 0 of 2 for 3 pointers and only scored 7 points overall…
Beno sucked this game, not denying that.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
He did have that clutch play to get the ball back at the end of regulation, though.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
So
I love this Thompson / Hawes hydra we have. Now if only both heads would show up on the same night…
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
by Viliphied on Feb 1, 2010 9:13 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
That would be one point for Hawes tonight.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
I Would
like to see the Kings run more plays with Hawes or for Hawes down the stretch. Either a corner three or as a passer to a cutting martin/Evans
the worst part was that ...
I had to watch Derek Fisher in an energy drink commercial after PW interview…
Slap yourself 100 times for violating the code.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
I means seriously ...
does this energy drink make me a better flopper…
by getPGwithbounce on Feb 1, 2010 9:23 PM PST up reply actions
Brockman
I admit it, he looked awesome tonight. If he can do a few more of those drives to the basket and continue his stellar rebounding he might make a good case for starting over JT.
by OrangeLazarus on Feb 1, 2010 9:18 PM PST up reply actions
Sergio
He had a nice first half and gave us a chance to win. But then the starters came back in and started waltzing the ball down the court, trying to nurse a 15-point lead for two quarters, and stopped doing what got us the lead in the first place. But they weren’t in when we were building that lead, so I guess they had nothing to forget.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 1, 2010 9:16 PM PST reply actions
um
I distinctly remember Sergio playing HORRIBLY in the 2nd half. Taking bad shots, missing open players, not noticing Hawes was being guarded by a PG TWICE. He did a lot of good in the 1st half, but his 2nd half was turrible.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
by Viliphied on Feb 1, 2010 9:22 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Sergio came back in when the Nuggets had already seized the momentum
He didn’t play well in the third, and he had a lot of company.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 1, 2010 9:29 PM PST up reply actions
well yeah
I’m not pinning the collapse on Sergio (or any one (or two or three or four)) players, but Sergio’s 2nd half was as bad as his first half was good.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Sergio
ended up +6. Just saying.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 1, 2010 9:48 PM PST up reply actions
single game +- ftw.
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
by Viliphied on Feb 1, 2010 9:48 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Martin ended up +2
Just saying.
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by iashwash on Feb 1, 2010 9:49 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm confused...
don’t get me wrong here, but there was no set rotation where all the starters were in after the start. Alot of players that were in for the run were in for the giveaway. And the 15 point lead was lost like a minute into the fourth quarter, so it’s also impossible to say they tried to nurse the lead for two quarters. Plus it seems like you’re trying to blame specific players, but any player implied by your points was very valuable to the team (including Spencer, who ended up with a minus 11).
You’re exaggerating waaaaaay too much here, and that’s just going to end up with you having a bad night. Relax buddy, it’s not all bad.
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
Yeah
Like you’re not living in a river in Egypt.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 1, 2010 9:31 PM PST up reply actions
Don't shoot the messenger!
De-nile
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Good work :)
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 1, 2010 9:34 PM PST up reply actions
You are a youngun ed
That’s a joke from the 50’s or 60’s.
"When you look at him, you say: 'Holy God.'" - Pete Carril on Tyreke Evans
Definitely young
I still don’t think it’s funny, but Ihave to consider who is trying to make the joke too. Understandable
The future begins now...
Start reading "Family Circus"
Then you can go toe to toe with him on a level battlefield.
Or you can smack yourself in the head with a cast iron skillet a few hundred times. Careful though, too many of those and you’ll start parsing statistics that make Jon Brockman the second coming of Moses Malone.
"When you look at him, you say: 'Holy God.'" - Pete Carril on Tyreke Evans
Yeah
We’re 7-1 when Brockman plays more than 11.23 minutes, but we’re only 1-6 when he plays less then 17.81 minutes. Does that make sense? No. Does it matter? Of course not!
The future begins now...
If we don't learn from the past
We will only fail in the future. These awesome numbers are there, don’t ignore them my friend.
Ok, I’m done.
The future begins now...
Yeah
Apparently only your drivel makes sense. Patience.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 1, 2010 10:18 PM PST up reply actions
I can't speak for ed...but my drivel makes sense 7 times out of 10
When I post more than 15 times in the postgame thread. When I post less than 5 times in the postgame thread, my drivel makes sense only 3 times out of ten.
These stats are null and void on Tuesday night and preseason games.
"When you look at him, you say: 'Holy God.'" - Pete Carril on Tyreke Evans
Actually
You go 10 for 10 pretty consistently. Tonight is pretty typical.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 1, 2010 10:25 PM PST up reply actions
I don't know
What’s their record up to now?
I cringe to even think of our record with Kevin Martin in the lineup. Bu tthat would be piling on.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 1, 2010 10:27 PM PST up reply actions
Do you really want Kevin Martin off of this team or something?
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
At this point
It doesn’t really matter. I don’t have confidence that he will ever be a difference maker or All-Star in this league. Always a bridesmaid seems to be his fate. Stats guy on a team that loses a lot will be in his tombstone.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 1, 2010 10:31 PM PST up reply actions
wow
Way to indite a 26 year old player who hasn’t played on a good team since he was considered legit NBA talent… but I guess that’s your opinion. I just know now to take any reference you make about Kevin in the context that you think he sucks.
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Indict.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Who me?
UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash
How you got
“He sucks” out of what I said is beyond me. On second thought, maybe not.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 2, 2010 3:42 PM PST up reply actions
?
Most players that are stats-only guys on bad teams are given that vibe. Steve Francis. Marbury. But usually those guys are people who put up alot of shots and don’t shoot efficiently.
Though Zach Randolph was one of the big faces of that type of player…
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I think we're at 16-31
and with Kevin I think it is like 0-62. I’d say trade the record and keep Kevin, but that’d be defending him too much
The future begins now...
I just remember all the comments
about how much better we’d be when Kevin came back. The only thing getting better are the excuses.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 1, 2010 10:32 PM PST up reply actions
Yes, the creativity is stunning.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 1, 2010 10:36 PM PST up reply actions
No
alot of the comments were: “Damnit, Kevins coming back right when the schedule gets real hard. Then everyone’s going to start talking about trading Kevin”
Lo and behold…
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
Indeed
And it’s amazing how many teams appear to be interested in procuring Kevin’s services. Don’t they understand that he’s a franchise destroyer?
"When you look at him, you say: 'Holy God.'" - Pete Carril on Tyreke Evans
Nope. It's a secret only known to Kings fans.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Hey Coolpussy.com
I was skimming thru the site and noticed you seemed to be pissingnpeople off. So I glanced thru , read some of your comments, but they;re all the same. So I challenge you, make an inteeligent Martin comment using data to back it up. I want to know if you are all talk or there is a brain behind this banter. Go.
Without a doubt
So I challenge you, make an inteeligent Martin comment using data to back it up.
Such an “inteeligent” post warrants an immediate response. I’ll get right on it.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 3, 2010 9:45 AM PST up reply actions
Coolcat - I think this would be a good time for you to pull out.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
you might, I won't
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
twss
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
you're throwing punches
but they’re not hitting.
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
It's a good thing you're an objective observer :)
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 1, 2010 10:28 PM PST up reply actions
You've been reading Beetle Bailey too much :)
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 1, 2010 10:34 PM PST up reply actions
In the 2nd half,
Sergio was consistently pushing the pace up the court and then waiting for the rest of the team to catch up. The pace dropped off substanially in the 3rd. Call it better defense or the altitude, but I’m in agreement with you about the effort and hustle.
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
by nothingbutnet on Feb 1, 2010 9:28 PM PST up reply actions
Tyreke plus more team passing/movement/involvement...well how about...
Let’s see…
The Bulls had a ballhog…incorporated the triange offense…had a good run…
Then that same coaching staff moved to LA, had another ball hog, incorporated
the triangle offense….they’re having a good run…
I think this triangle thing works…maybe we should try it…
Did I say ball hog? I mean ball dominant…
w.t.f.
Do you really want to hire Kurt Rambis?
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
Rambis and Phil the only ones that know the triangle?
by getPGwithbounce on Feb 1, 2010 9:32 PM PST up reply actions
Am I wrong here? Honestly, I’m not too knowledgeable on the evolution of the triangle; which coaches use it?
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Lakers, Timberwolves...
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by nothingbutnet on Feb 1, 2010 9:45 PM PST up reply actions
Who me?
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by nothingbutnet on Feb 1, 2010 9:49 PM PST up reply actions
yeah
Phil and Rambis… were you confirming my answer?
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what about Eddie Jordan?
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he doesn't run the triangle
he runs the princeton
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Of course
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by nothingbutnet on Feb 1, 2010 9:51 PM PST up reply actions
dang it.
This still could be interpreted as you confirming my answer…
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Your right,
I think New Jersey and Indiana used part of the system in the past. But the Lakers and Bulls are the only teams to fully incorporate it. It is a difficult system to teach and I’m not sure the team or Westphall would really be able to incorporate it sucessfully.
I am not a big fan myself. Too slow.
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by nothingbutnet on Feb 1, 2010 9:59 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks for the reply
sorry, should have said that earlier.
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Is it any slower than the 1-4 Flat?
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Although Kevin didn't play his best and made an error on the last shot,
we lost the game be cause we couldn’t take care of the ball.
I’m surprised PW has any hair left.
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It's BS that Chapu doesn't get more minutes
He had a pretty good night that could’ve been great if he didn’t have to sit on the bench for half the game.
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Our boy did good tonight! you should have been here for those 3 booming threes in the 2nd quarter. Damn, was that exciting!
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by NoceOne on Feb 1, 2010 9:26 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Haha
That was pretty good. He was a big part of building that big lead in the 2nd.
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by edm7 on Feb 1, 2010 9:28 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah. I would be happier with the win tho. :-(
I’d be happier if Noce hit just 1 three pointer and we won by 1 pt.
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Good to know
I still think he had some good minutes in the second half (not necessarily the amount but the quality).
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yeah, the fact that he played good D and didn't hoist up any ill advised shots...
Im happy Noce played well. I’d just be way happier with the W.
There can only be one Noce!
That's what we need from Noce
Not a guy chucking 3s. When he plays within the offense he does so much more.
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this.
I really don’t mind Noc as a player, I just really hate it when he goes into “shoot it every time he touches it” mode.
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question
not to play the blame game but it seemed to me down the stretch Omri with space looks a much better bet to score, sure he had his struggles with the odd turnover, but he seemed to be able to get to the lane and be able to get a shot from there.
Kevin just does not look capable of taking his guy off the dribble and getting a good shot, those awful flailing shots don’t look good. But the Kings kept running that play for him.
Is this a play being run for Kevin or is he forcing the action? To me Martin would be better wating to play off the ball and hit a jumper or a runner?
In short what blame does Westpaul get here?
"westpaul"
he gets all the blame for that last play. he called it. kevin was doing what kevin does. the refs had not been calling that foul all the way down the stretch. FUCK, EVEN PEACHES KNOWS YOU HAVE TO GO EARLY DOWN 2 WITH 18 SECONDS LEFT!!!
but that’s what PW went with even with omri and spence playing great all-around ball. fuck. kevin’s ability to draw fouls is a great way to score points in the 2nd quarter. it cannot be your “go to play”. I could not fucking believe it when I saw him walking it up the court.
aaron fucking afflalo can hit a clutch jump shot. then we get a guy going with a spastic flop (lets call a spade a spade, no). fuck. I am a kevin martin fan but that whole sequence just blew goats.
if I start talking about jason “a worse right handed version of lawrence funderburke” thompson I just might have a fucking aneurysm
so goodnight str
by lchristmas on Feb 1, 2010 9:56 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Looking forward to the Suns-Kings game Friday
Might be the last one I go to this year, although I am hoping to see one of the Kings-Blazers games. Got a new Kings sweatshirt for my Bday to show off.
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by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 1, 2010 9:33 PM PST reply actions
Not going to wear your Artest jersey?
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I don't have an Artest jersey, moron
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by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 1, 2010 10:20 PM PST up reply actions
The first time in a long time that,
we can’t attribute the loss to our bigs lack of play.
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Hawes
was outstanding, Brockman had some nice minutes, and JT must have still been thinking about Beyonce winning six Grammys.
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by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 1, 2010 9:37 PM PST up reply actions
Or Lady Gaga's hair!
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by nothingbutnet on Feb 1, 2010 9:40 PM PST up reply actions
We out shot them, out rebounded them and,
out fouled them and out turnovered them thus we loss.
Youth and inexperience is difficult to handle at times.
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by nothingbutnet on Feb 1, 2010 9:43 PM PST up reply actions
JT needs something.
He’s not the player he was. Either a stern talking to, or some time off, but JT is a sports psych away from being good again.
C’mon JT, we don’t need you to be the man, but just play with the enthusiasm and appreciation you had before. The rest you’ll figure out.
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what jt needs
is what every other player who has earned it has received this year…. a nice seat down near hilton armstrong for the opening tip. hawes, omri, donte, noc. all lost their jobs and none has begun to approach the consistent shitty play we have seen from jt.
pull his scholarship and let him earn 15 minutes off the bench. starting him while he gets abused and commits 2 brainless fouls in the first 5 minutes is killing him AND the team
by lchristmas on Feb 1, 2010 10:11 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
that would be what I referred to as a "stern talking to"
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Tell Mr. Budweiser and Mr. Cuervo hello.
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by nothingbutnet on Feb 1, 2010 9:47 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
If the Kings had won this game
We’d have to send George Karl a fruit basket for leaving Ty Lawson on the bench down the stretch.
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No kidding, the kid is a beast.
But, GK is a free agent this summer…
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so i missed the game
is it worth watching the replay or too painful?
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
I'd watch it
There was some great basketball by the Kings in the first half. Then the 3rd quarter hapened and then it was exciting. Unfortunately, you already know the outcome.
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1,2,4,OT all good watching. Maybe pause it at 109-109 and use your imagination for the rest of the time :)
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That's a good plan actually
Maybe send it to second OT and Reke makes it back
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eh, at least it was competitive
not a fan of the moral victory but nice to at least know we the Kings didn’t just bend over and present themselves.
how did sergio fair?
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by wallywagon11 on Feb 1, 2010 10:16 PM PST up reply actions
Sergio did what Sergio does.
Always fun and painful to watch.
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Looked like a broken windup toy in the second half, running circles near halfcourt. Someone needed to point at the basket and yell “GO THERE”.
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haha
He’s not broken. When he does well he puts too much pressure on himself to do better. Then he no longer plays naturally, over-thinks his game and devolves into Spanish Taffy: sticky and gumming things up.
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that decription just gave me a bunch of spud webb memories
not good times
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by wallywagon11 on Feb 1, 2010 10:30 PM PST up reply actions
Yep
He really is the second coming of J-Will. But without busting the crazy three pointers periodically.
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Well, except for tonight.
Actually, his crazy threes were the opposite of J-Will’s. Instead of being taken 3 seconds into the shot clock, they were taken with 3 seconds left.
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I think he can hit the 3
but he needs to be wide open, not with a defender in his face. If he would stick to what he does best (getting everyone involved) he could be a good contributor. Unfortunately, like I sad before, he’s a bit too black or white
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Umm...
he tried to jack up a three with Nene all over him.
But yeah, he doesn’t pull what I call the “Mike Bibby”s (I was a Kings fan slightly after J-Wills tenure here).
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JWill singularly pushed Adelman's hairline back at least an inch
27 foot threes with 19 seconds on the shot clock will do that…
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Let me see if I can give a good description of the J-Will three. Typically, it consisted of running up the court as fast as possible and then pulling up in motion a yard or two outside the arc. His momentum would usually make his feet continue forward as he jumped up. It was a thing of beauty.
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heh
I think “a yard or two” is a perfect description. I don’t think we’d had a legitimate “no, no, no, YES!” player prior to J-Will’s arrival.
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It’s a shame youtube wasn’t around for his first few years.
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no kidding
Though honestly, I wish there was quality footage of alot of the fifties. That would be fun to watch. Also the early sixties.
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my friend still has the tape the Kings sent out to season ticket holders showing JWill highlights in college
watched it a few months ago. It’s grainy as all hell, like watching an early 1980s taped delayed sporting event … or a Hawks telecast on league pass
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by wallywagon11 on Feb 1, 2010 10:41 PM PST up reply actions
woah
Comment got eaten alive. This is what it should have said:
I remember Sergio throwing up a three with Nene (I think) all over him.
Haha, but you’re right, he doesn’t do the pull-up three with 20 seconds left on the shot clock (what I call the “Mike Bibbys” mostly because I wasn’t a fan during the J-Will era).
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So I just logged into basketbawful.com for the first time in a while
and instantly am reminded of why I liked it so much:
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Surprise buttseks!
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Curious about the play to end regulation
Grant and Jerry played it off like Spencer had no choice on that play but to take the shot. But it looked like PW was chewing on someone on the way back to the bench – I thought Spencer had the opening to hand the ball off to Kevin, who would have gotten into the lane easily as Nene was guarding him.
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The replays showed the handoff was the play but they closed off on Kevin
so Spencer did what I thought he needed to do. Not force it and at least get a shot. My take anyways
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other than it not going in,
it was the right play by Spnce. Great play by him most of the night.
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by nothingbutnet on Feb 1, 2010 11:31 PM PST up reply actions
for a last second shot
On your third option to me thats pretty good shot, a turnaround jumper over a smaller player. would have been better had it gone in!
The 2nd option was Omri along the baseline, but that was well covered also.
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taking awhile to read the post game threat
seeing a general theme of Kevin Martin not being “clutch.”
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Eh wins don’t matter the game was entertaining and that is what mattered to me. I really don’t think the refs were to blame on this one they really bailed Kevin out earlier and he shot 11 free throws in the game. The Kings scoring 14 points in the 3rd quarter is what lost them the game. Right now it is all about baby steps and getting better, maybe make a trade at the deadline, but I would rather them wait for the summer and after the draft before they do anything. Kings took a good team to overtime and might have got jobbed by the refs…isn’t that what always happens? I guess we should have bigger leads.
Oh and btw Kevin did get a shot off and missed it for anyone watching the game…people tend to miss shots…
Hope
Didn't see the second half,but there were 3 mysterious fouls called against the Kings in the first half
but then I saw the box score and the third quarter had to have had a greater effect on the game than the fouls did
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Denver leads the league in FTA's per game,
but the Kings commited 29 fouls leading to 38 FTA’s, and a +4 pt margin at the FT line, when the game margin is 3, FT’s are a killer.
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