Preview: Kings at Pistons
THE SCOUTING REPORT
As always, from Mr. HighTops:
Detroit’s Pistons aren’t hitting on all Cylinders
With a season record of (18-32) and currently in last place in the Central Division of the Eastern Conference, the Piston could be next on the list of road victims for the Kings. Detroit is 29th in PPG (91) and 28th in Pts Differential (-5.25). Since Jan. 1st they’re 7-11 with only 2 wins against teams above .500, NOH & BOS, and 5 wins against the bottom dwellers in the East. Two wins came against NJN, 1 came against the NYN, 1 against WAS, and last nights win in MIL.
Offensively, Detroit is the worst 3P% team in the league and is the 2nd worst FG% team. Defensively, they’re 20th in rebounding, and 28th in shot blocking. They don’t turnover the ball very often (10th fewest) but like the Kings they foul a lot (6th most to Kings 3rd most). Wallace and Charlie V. are the top shot blockers averaging 2.0 per game between them. And, they have no one shooting over 33% from 3pt range; Charlie V (.328) and Gordon (323) are their best.
You should be familiar with most of the starters, Tayshaun Prince, Ben Wallace, Richard Hamilton, and Rodney Stuckey. New to the line up is Swedish born Rookie Jonas Jerebko, a 6’10" 230 lb. PF/SF who was drafted 9th in the 2nd round of the 09 Draft one pick after the Kings took Jon Brockman. Like Donte, Jonas can score at the rim or from the 3. He’s scoring about 8.7 ppg, 5.9 rpg, on .487% FG%. Jerebko will be joining Sacramento Kings teammates Omar Casspi and Tyreke Evans in the Rookie Challenge game All-Star Weekend. Prince has seen his PER’s drop to only 9.1, and scores just 8.5 ppg, 4.4 rpg on 36% field and 22% from 3. Hamilton and Stuckey are the leading scorers and assist guys, averaging 17.9 ppg and 4.8 apg each. Anchoring the center is Big Ben Wallace, who puts up 7.8 ppg, and 7.8 rpg and rebounds well at both ends of the court. He blocks about 1.4 per game, and scores exclusively at the rim shooting 61% with the majority off assists. His major weakness is .421 FT%, so feel free to foul him any time or any where on the court.
Off the bench, Detroit has Charlie Villanueva a 6’11" 4th year pro who was taken 7th in the 2005 NBA draft by Toronto. Charlie V averages 12.7 ppg, 5.0 rpg on 42% shooting. Backup PF/Center Jason Maxiell is a 6’7" 260 pounder who puts up 8.6 ppg and 4.4 rpg on 57% shooting. Will Bynum a 6’0" 185 lb. 2nd year pro backs up Stuckey at PG. He puts up decent numbers 8.6 ppg, 4.3 apg, and 2.2 rpg on 45% shooting but only shoots 12.5% from 3pt range and only hits 56% of his FT’s. Ben Gordon backs up Prince and has good range and shoots at a good percentage over the entire floor, averaging 11.4 ppg, 2.1 apg, on 39% shooting.
The match up at point guard between Stuckey and Evans should be interesting. If Tyreke is the ultimate big PG, then Stuckey was the proto type. Stuckey the 2nd year pro is 6’ 5" 205 lbs, and scores at 50% on his 6 FGA’s at the rim but only shoots between 33-39% on his 9 shots between 10-23ft. You can let him have all the 3’s he wants; his TS% from beyond the arc is an embarrassing 22.8%
Detroit isn’t the team they thought they’d be in the preseason. Injuries to Prince, Hamilton, Ben Gordon, Will Bynum and Chucky Atkins have kept them out of the playoff race. The fact that most if not all are starting to play like they did in the preseason, gives a glimmer of hope that they still might make up the 7 game deficit and overtake the 6,7 & 8 playoff teams who are at .500 or less. But, hopefully the complete recovery won’t happen until after the all-star break, so the Kings can get out of town with their first back to back road wins of the season.
Detroit has only scored more than 94 pts 4 times in the last 18 games and only one was over 100. The Kings are 15-18 when they score 100+ points, and 2-16 when scoring less than 100 points. So, the fact that the Kings have averaged 109 ppg and scored over 100 in all 5 games this month, offers some promise for another Kings road win.
Kings Notes:
The Kings are 3-17 when their opponent’s bench outscores the Kings bench
The Kings are 14-17 when their bench ties or outscores the opponents bench
The Kings are 12-10 when they have as many or more FT attempts than opponents
The Kings are 5-24 when they have less FT attempts than opponents
When the Kings don’t out rebound their opponents, their winning percentage is 25%
When the Kings do out rebound their opponents, their winning percentage is 43.5%
After the NY win the Kings winning percentage is 33%
So for the Kings to win, their bench needs to score over 100pts at the FT line and out rebound the Pistons. Forgive the stats geek humor.
THE KEY BATTLE
Kevin Martin vs. Rip Hamilton. Hamilton has been simply awful this season, needing about 17 FGAs a game to get about 17 points. Brutal, considering Rip was once a model of efficiency. He and Rodney Stuckey have struggled, as has Martin. We'll see if the overtime explosion Tuesday bodes well for the rest of Kev's season.
BOLD PROCLAMATION
Omri Casspi will start the game with a pair of 28-foot threes. Carryover heat check!
BOLD BROCKLAMATION
Jon Brockman nods in respect to Jason Maxiell, the pioneering baby-eater.
DETAILS
Tip-off is at 4:30 PM PT at the Palace. Two game threads -- 4:30 and 5:45 -- and a post-gamer at 7:15.
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Scouting Report Game Keys
Detroit is a deliberate half court offensive team, that doesn’t foul or turnover the ball. They limit possessions and when they get the ball inside, they take high percentage shots. They don’t have good 3pt shooters and don’t make many attempts. The Kings need to be patient and look for high percentage shots of their own.
Detroit uses two undersized centers, both under 6’8" who don’t score at a high rate. PW probably goes with JT and brings in Brockman as the reserve. Donte more than likely gets the job of guarding Jerebko and Casspi starts at SF guarding Prince. I like this lineup and think we can dominate the frontcourt. My big concern is who defends Charlie V.
We played an overtime game and now a back 2 back. Sergio didn’t perform and his PT was limited. Beno got yanked after 5 minutes, I can only guess it was due to his foot injury. So, I really have some concerns about Tyreke and Evans playing major minutes again. PW might bring Hawes off the bench to guard Charlie V and initiate the offense.
The benches will decide this game. I think it will be close unless Tyreke decides to take over the game earlier than the last 6 minutes. The homer in me has to take the Kings by 4, and the under @ 200. Go Sacramento.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
by HighTops on Feb 10, 2010 12:06 PM PST reply actions 9 recs
Should Read "Tyreke and Martin playing major minutes again"
Damn SpellChecker didn’t catch that.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
Should Read "Chapu will decide this game"
"Oh, y ahora ¿quién podrá defenderme?" "¡Yo!"
by chapuforyou on Feb 10, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions 6 recs
If he plays much he might.
What is up him?
Lower their expectations and rise to met them
He would be coming off the bench, so yes he's presence will be important
the bench needs to win this game.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
Should Read: "yes he's presence is always important. Chapu will win the game"
"Oh, y ahora ¿quién podrá defenderme?" "¡Yo!"
I hate Detroit, down 5 with 3 sec. left and they foul JT and blow may over/under call
The fix was in, that’s all I can say. Otherwise I got the bench scoring, call, the over/under call, and only miss the spread by one. This really sucks.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
Good catch
My Scouting report usually looks at recent performance, because injurys like what happened with Martin can greatly affect season averages. But, it’s harder to pull last 10 games or last months data for fouls and turnovers, so I take the easy way out and use seasonal average.
In the game Keys, I looked at the last 10 games box scores and saw that with the improved performance of the teams previously injured players, that turnovers and fouls had improved. And, trying to keep the comment short I failed to make that point. Over the last 10 games, Detroit only exceeded their seasonal foul average twice, once by 1 and the other time by 3. So, for the season they are 6th at 22.7 per game, over the last 10 game they have averaged 19.9 which would put them at 23rd place. And, they have had 5 games with 18 or less in the last 10.
Thanks again for the feedback, I’ll try and be clearer or at least more consistent in my numbers.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
Its starting to look like it will take a .500 record even in the East
To make the playoffs. Or something close. Detroit seems out of the mix to me.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 10, 2010 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
Seems like
Donte would be a good defender to stick on Charlie V.
VFettke's opposing unknown big that'll look like an All Star against the Kings:
It’s a toss up between Kwame Brown and Jonas Jerebko. Jerebko’s been playing quite well already and may not need the Kings to look like a stud. Kwame Brown’s looked like Kwame Brown, so he has the potential to go off for 20/10 with two blocks tonight. However, I give bonus points to the Swede for being a foreigner and for rocking that badass faux hawk
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by vfettke on Feb 10, 2010 12:07 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Kwame? Oh lord. Might slash my wrists if he breaks out for a big game.
Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut
Brilliant
I love vfettke’s new series! (My apologies if it’s not new and I’ve been missing it)
Why won't that stupid StR let me into their crappy club for jerks?
Although,
If Kwame Brown goes off it probably won’t be too bad for us, because its Kwame Brown.
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I've Kwame break out
Far too often than I’d like to see. I still have nightmare of Kwame’s 30/19 game vs. the Kings in 2004.
BOOK IT!
not really a big man
but i am going with Daye to blow up. Seems like it is always the talented low basketball IQ type player that gets going against our bad defense.
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 10, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
This makes me sad :-(
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 10, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
Doesn't Maxiel
average about 3 points and 2 rebounds per minute he plays us?
I seem to have a lot of nightmares of 5 guys standing around watching Maxiel get offensive rebounds and dunks.
Any big playing against us could destroy us
Jerebko wins for being a foreigner with a funny name and cool haircut. Other than that there’s no real rhyme or reason to my picks other than humor. Although, there’s not much humor involved either. Basically, it’s a pointless way for me to kill time at work.
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Jon Brockman nods in respect to Jason Maxiell, the pioneering baby-eater.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha. That is too funny.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
From bad boys to boy are they bad
The always tough defending Pistons are not even a shadow of their former selves. Who are their primary defenders? Prince, Wallace and Maxiell. That’s not saying much.
Accuscore has the Pistons winning by 4 101-97.
The Kings and the road are not a good combination. The upswing of the excitement of the All-Star game for Evans and Casspi, the vacation week that starts after this game ends – which should effect both teams (and the refs and coaching staff), and the wonder of which three Kings will show up – JT_thekid or JT_thechild, Kevitron or KMart, Bad Beno or Beuno Beno will make the difference.
I remember being most impressed with Will Bynum – he is lightning in a uniform and it will be interesting to see if he can be contained. On the other end, who stays with Tyreke? My biggest hopes for this game, I am sad to admit, is that both Tyreke and Omri stay healthy for the Rookie-Soph game.
Bold Proclamation: GM considers naming a truck “the Brockman edition” with added HP and sawed off telephone pole bumpers.
Other bolds:
Donté sits after hoisting up more 3 pointers than 2 pointers
Noce fouls someone a bit too hard and looks puzzled at the call
Sean May scores in double digits
Spencer Hawes plays more than 6 minutes
Beno plays less than 10 minutes
by betweentheeyes on Feb 10, 2010 12:29 PM PST reply actions
My second favorite GM in the league
seems to be living in denial in the no-man’s-land of thinking you can rebuild without rebuilding, a la Geoff Petrie of recent seasons.
Lower their expectations and rise to met them
i dunno if i would have been too critical all the way up to last summer
but yeah that wasn’t so much good
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 10, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
to be honest i have been kinda shocked we haven't heard any rip hamilton for josh howard trade rumors really
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 10, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
Why would Dallas want Rip?
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 10, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
seems like they need a 2G or SF
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 10, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
and yeah i know caron butler is a better option
i just thought would have heard hamilton in the trade rumors earler
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 10, 2010 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
Not so sure...
Dumars once looked like a great GM, but you have to wonder if some of it may have been luck.
I won’t harp on the drafting of Darko, because a lot of GMs would have made that call, but it has to be factored in. Rip’s extension was a bad deal for the Pistons, and trading Billups for Iverson didn’t work out for the team at all. The signings of Villanueva and Gordon this summer were baffling. I’ve also always felt that nobody gives proper weight to Detroit’s decision to let Okur leave. I think Dumars is riding his name and rep at this point.
All of that being said, I’m sure a lot of outsiders were saying similar things about Petrie, so who knows what the future will hold for the Pistons.
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
And drafting Daye this year.
Hell I would have taken Jerebko over Daye at that pick.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement, Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order, and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Coaching tipz from a fan...
1. Detroit is a slow-it-down team so the Kings should, naturally, play up-tempo (or as much as they can the next day after an overtime game)
2. ISO plays probably won’t work against this team, so run at least one play (preferably two or more).
3. Lastly, remember to put sticky magnets on the ball—instant shooting percentage boost!
There are your tipz from a fan! GOOOOOOOOOO KINGS!
Last time we played these guys
it was their PG Rodney Stucky that roasted us. That was against guards Beno and Cisco. Martin came in off the bench. I have a feeling Tyreke will slow him down some. Brad Miller had a good game. Maybe Hawes might tonight? JT had 10 rebounds in 24 minutes off the bench. Donte did not play.
This should be a good game to watch cuz the Kings have a good chance to steal one. I like the match ups.
Great comment and last sentence.
PW likes to go with a winning hand, so I expect JT starts where he finished off the NY game, in the line up. Maybe Spencer and Brockman off the bench against Charlie V and Maxiell.
With JT starting the line ups are so similar in size, skills, an offense, it’s uncanny. Centers both rebound guys who score off of offensive boards and assists. Long athletic PF’s who can score at the rim or beyond the arc. Wings that can put up jumpers from anywhere and anytime. And PG’s who both attack the rim, and who’s jumper is questionable. It’s almost like the Kings playing the Kings, except one team has a lot more experience.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
Oh
2 wins in a row? You know I think so! Let’s go! Kings! If our backcourt can play like we did in NY, no doubt we’re going to smash the Pistons.
Sure we could’ve got the 1st pick of the draft, but apparently 1st isn’t always the best. They said that Griffin was the man to have for the 2009 draft. Now where is the pick of the draft? He’s in Sacramento and catching everyone’s eyes. God am I so glad they gave us 4th pick. I love Tyreke and what he’s done. Have fun enjoying your ROTY award Tyreke.
by MexicanSKFan2Death on Feb 10, 2010 3:20 PM PST reply actions
yah
Tyreke dominate the inside and Kmart dominates the perimeter as well as backdoor cuts. Hell maybe he’ll actually get some fouls called his way tonight and hit those free throws. Now thats a Kevitron Proclamation!
Kevitron Proclamation!
I like it.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
But Kevitron is bad Kevin
Kevitron doesn’t make FTs
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
Wait a minute.
Kevitron is not “The Kevitron Proclamation”. Parse the two fool.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Do not hate on The Kevitron Proclamation
Hate the Kevitron.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
"The Kevitron Proclamation" is completely awesome.
You 2 are just haters. (And stupid assholes. But that’s only my opinion.)
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
How have the ATDHE, P2P, etc. feeds been lately
My laptop has been broken the past few weeks and havent been able to watch much.
Remember folks, I'm almost always wrong.
My sig was too long...
The way they usually are.
How it works on that particular day is what matters.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Yo
I’m from CelticsBlog. Ray Allen’s not playing tonight due to “back spasms”, even though he hasn’t sat out all year and the C’s are on two days rest.
IS Kevin Martin playing tonight?
Surely I don’t have to explain what I mean. 8 )
As far as we know yes.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
yes and he played well
the better he plays with Tyreke the less likely it is that we trade him before the deadline.
by Travis Mays Hayes on Feb 10, 2010 7:40 PM PST up reply actions

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