if Donte’s involved as Amick mentions, then no thanks

Okay with me. I don’t want to part with Donte, and I don’t want to essentially trade Kevin Martin away for TMurph.

He would be a great fit for the Kings.

For K-9’s expiring I am happy with it.

However, for Kevin Martin? HELL TO THE NO!

 No. No. No.

If it’s a straight-up Troy Murphy for KTEC. We talked about this a bit in another thread – Murphy just feels like a Petrie type of guy.

So I’m going with a combination of the “In Petrie We Trust” rule, along with the “It’s Not My Money” rule (since Murphy expires after next season). We get an offensively gifted frontcourt player who is a tremendous rebounder…and if it doesn’t work out, he becomes the KTEC of 2010-2011.

I don’t really see what he does for the Kings though.

I’d rather see Thomas on the Kings, however I’d be happy to see what Murphy could bring to the team. Any front court help is a welcome sight. With Garcia coming back and Murphy/Thomas coming in, will Nocioni get any minutes? Maybe he can be the captain of the Chalupa squad.

No Bosh type player is coming here until we get better. He would be good for a year while the kids grow up and possibly be a very good Exp contract next year.

I’d do this if we didn’t have to give up one of the kids. I don’t know if they’d go for Beno (though he’s a huge upgrade at the point for them) Sergio maybe.

Kings send out K9, Donte, Beno and Sergio for Troy Murphy, Dahntay Jones, and Travis Diener.

Win-win for all concerned depending on how you look at it.

What do you all think of David Lee? He is going to get big FA bucks with the frenzy stifled with the CBA talks but still there is money out there. He won’t get the $11+M that Troy Murphy is getting, but it will be for at least 4 years, maybe $9M.

Is he worth KTEC? why not just let it expire?

I’m assuming the reason must be that in the off season when the CBA comes up, and eventually will result in lower salries and cap, that the Kings want to be well below the Cap to be able to get bargain basement deals on players other teams can no longer afford. It may be brilliant to shoot to be as far below cap in that off season as possible.
The bonus would be you get use of, while he does not exactly fit or needs, a big who at this moment is still better than any of our current bigs.
Plus they will be able to do the black/white thing in scrimages rather than shirts and skins.

This is exactly the kind of move the Kings do not want. Why trade KTEC for someone who may improve this team this year and next and then expire himself. The Kings need long-term assests not stop gap fillers. If indeed this is a tryout for Troy for a long term contract then OK but yikes!! The Kings do not need a few more wins this year or next at the cost of improved draft position and development of young future talent. All Murphy does is hurt JT Donte Hawes and Brock by taking minutes and productivity away from them as Troy becomes our best big. As I said, if Sac is thinking that Troy is a long term answer then I’m a little upset but I understand. But if not then just let K9 walk and move on from the contract that wouldn’t die.

K9 for Murphy straight up is a steal. If Murphy doesn’t work out, the Kings still have huge expiring contract next year.

They covet Greene, although they think he’ll be a defensive presence on the boards. Maybe someday…

If it’s not K9 for Murph straight up, forget it. May, Armstrong and Ime could go if Indy insists, but no way I’m giving up more than that for their salary dump.

Let’s say you’re the Kings and you think Murphy is a good value up until the summer of 2011. You get more out of K9’s contract than you could before, you move Beno & Sergio in the deal, but also give up Donte in the process. (Nothing is ever simple.)

The Pacers clearly want more than just expirings for Murphy. Otherwise they do the deal for Z. So there is no reason for them to move Murphy unless they’re getting good value for Murphy, and Beno, Sergio and Donte would certainly qualify for that. The Kings taking Dahntay Jones would be one of those things they would live with since I think it’s negligible anyway that losing a defender on a losing team means much.

You are the Kings. Who are your core pieces? We know Tyreke is one. Who else is a core piece? If you draft a player like Derrick Favors, Ed Davis, Cole Aldrich, or whomever else (and I’m just throwing potential bigs in the 2010 draft), where does Donte fit?

Does he get minutes over Omri, JT or Kevin? If you’re going to take Troy Murphy now, and you’re aiming to get better defensively by drafting Favors, then perhaps the thinking about Murphy is that it will give Favors some buffer time to develop without having to be a stud right away.

Teams suffer from having too much talent (Portland), too little talent (the Kings last year), or not knowing where they should go forward or backwards at a particular point (Kings in 2005-08 ). Moving Donte now may be the best time to do so, or you could end up with a Chicago like situation with Tyrus Thomas.

I don’t love Troy Murphy, but to build upon any momentum this team has it may need to move Donte as a necessary evil to push the team forward. It was always likely the Kings would have moved Noc, Cisco or Donte, and I would suspect that of the 3 Donte will always get the most attention from opposing teams. There is the saying after all: To get something you have to give up something. Donte is that something.

I don’t know if I’m for any potential deal with the Pacers, but I am for any potential deal that makes the Kings better. I can’t imagine why Donte would be potentially unavailable just because he’s 21 years old. Even though Troy Murphy is not what I would prefer, it’s not also up to me. I think any deal where you could potentially move Beno or Sergio (I think Sergio could have a great end to the season in Indiana and better there than here) in the process is a good one. There are worse contracts in the NBA than Dahntay Jones or Troy Murphy’s. Assets are nice, but they mean little unless you’re willing to make a wholesale change with your roster.

I would rather the Kings move Noc or Cisco (which wouldn’t happen even if Cisco was healthy right now because of Cisco being BYC), but that’s not the way the world works.

So maybe I can get behind a potential deal after all. Which surprises me, but I figure after living with the Noc deal last year, I can live with any potential deal with Murphy that sees K9, Beno and Donte moved.