Kevin Martin Trade Discussion Part 2
by Aykis16 on Feb 18, 2010 12:17 AM PST
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Again, Kings trade Kevin Martin, Kenny Thomas, Hilton Armstrong, and Sergio Rodriguez for Houston's Tracy McGrady, Carl Landry (the main get for the Kings), and Joey Dorsey. New York could be involved at some point between now and the deadline in a trade for McGrady, otherwise, he'll be bought out.
If this trade goes as finished, Kings will only have $33,000,000 in salary for 2010 FA. 4th most available cap space.
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McGrady for Iggy & Dalembert?
Just go the fuck for broke?
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
Amick saying it sounds like
T Mac to NY will be discussed in the morning.
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
I'll be honest
I don’t know if I want that NY package: Jeffries, Hughes, Hill, and pick
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
Yeah...
… I would hold out for 2 picks or a swap. Just like Houston was.
by henryclemente on Feb 18, 2010 12:22 AM PST up reply actions
Or... at least get Hughes off the table
by henryclemente on Feb 18, 2010 12:22 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah this is true
I want no part of Hughes
The man known simply as "Christmas Cheesesteak"
by Neil Manich on Feb 18, 2010 12:23 AM PST up reply actions
I could be wrong
But I was under the impression Jeffries will be expiring next year, and Jeffries is a really reliable defender. He would probably be our best post defender. Paired with some post offense in landry, a prospect in Hill, and a pick. Yeah, sounds ok.
The man known simply as "Christmas Cheesesteak"
by Neil Manich on Feb 18, 2010 12:25 AM PST up reply actions
he doesnt have a lot of years left, they just want to dump him while the big free agents are available
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
He is
but still, you already got Noce, Beno, Cisco, and Jeffries. I know he expires but adding him to the mix is weird. I’m not sure of that deal. Haven’t made up my mind yet but Hughes expiring isn’t my problem
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
Ah! Though...
…Hughes had one more year.
by henryclemente on Feb 18, 2010 12:27 AM PST up reply actions
You wouldn't do
Martin and Thomas for Landry Jeffries Hill and pick? I would
The man known simply as "Christmas Cheesesteak"
by Neil Manich on Feb 18, 2010 12:22 AM PST up reply actions
Doesn't hurt to dream, I guess.
just try not to take it too seriously.
by Rhondda the musician on Feb 18, 2010 12:23 AM PST up reply actions
Are you trying...
to break the record for typing “Bosh” in one night?
by henryclemente on Feb 18, 2010 12:24 AM PST up reply actions
New Update
From Stein’s Twitter:
http://twitter.com/STEIN_LINE_HQ/status/9275410490
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
McGrady likely to NY
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
The Pick would likely be New York's unprotected 2012
Since they can’t trade next years.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
really?
because with LeBron and Bosh going to NY, the Knicks will have a very late first round pick in 2012
Kobe sucks
by La Marc Gasol dridge on Feb 18, 2010 12:58 AM PST up reply actions
I wouldn't want to do that.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Depends how good you think we'll be next year, and how bad they're gonna be.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
Not sure if my Knick fan friend is correct....
but he claims deal with Houston included a 2012 1st rounder, and 2011 pick swap.
Yep he's right.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
They'd be crazy to give that up
They aren’t going anywhere soon. That picks going to be high.
The man known simply as "Christmas Cheesesteak"
by Neil Manich on Feb 18, 2010 12:28 AM PST up reply actions
it wouldnt be unprotected. that is why the deal with houston didnt go through, the protections...
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
I think...
… though Hou deal didn’t go thru because Hou wanted a pick and a swap. I could be wrong, tho.
by henryclemente on Feb 18, 2010 12:39 AM PST up reply actions
swap would be terrible for us as they will have a worse pick than we will
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
yea..
… i don’t think swap is on the on the table between us and NY.
But Hou wanted it. Would have been good for them.
by henryclemente on Feb 18, 2010 12:41 AM PST up reply actions
I would settle for no less than unprotected 2012.
….NY will do it. They are desperate.
by henryclemente on Feb 18, 2010 12:38 AM PST up reply actions
A frontcourt of
Jt, HAwes, Landry, and Jordan Hill? Does this mean we ain’t going big in the draft? Does that work? I don’t know
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
...
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
by CaliforniaJag on Feb 18, 2010 12:44 AM PST up reply actions
I just had to stop myself
from throwing out the worst Iverson joke ever. You are all welcome.
The man known simply as "Christmas Cheesesteak"
by Neil Manich on Feb 18, 2010 12:26 AM PST up reply actions
Then don't deal with NY
he is awful.
Hope
by Ultrakingsfan on Feb 18, 2010 12:25 AM PST up reply actions
Every source saying T Mac to NY
has the samepackage going back to the Kings: Jeffries, Hughes, Hill and pick
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
Jeffries is the necessary evil, but it'd only be for one more year.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
why is he necessary? WTF are we getting from NY that make jeffries necessary? Hill and a #1 like 2 years from now. A #1 that could be at the bottom of the first round if they do sign two max players...
the kncks will be giving up a lot less for tmac than the kings did. they get rid of their bad contract. kings still have all theirs.
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
It's a player option, maybe he'll hate it here.
But for what he’s going to make, you can learn to love it.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
Necessary because...
NY sole objective is to dump Jeffries so they have enuf room to sign 2 max players.
by henryclemente on Feb 18, 2010 12:29 AM PST up reply actions
i get why its necessary for them... but why is it necessary for us?
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
Only necessary for us...
… if we want to deal with NY. Only other options are to keep/buyout TMac.
Or maybe Chi is still interested?
by henryclemente on Feb 18, 2010 12:32 AM PST up reply actions
He’s happy that we got a guy who got shot and played 3 weeks later. Can’t call him soft.
by Josh L on Feb 18, 2010 12:26 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
guess we see whos more valued in the organization
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
by Eddie Gonzalez on Feb 18, 2010 12:30 AM PST up reply actions
apparently
amick said on 1140 that the peaches incident soured the relationship
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
by Eddie Gonzalez on Feb 18, 2010 12:32 AM PST up reply actions
its the consensus
that we want no parts of a 1 legged overweight tmac right?
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
by Eddie Gonzalez on Feb 18, 2010 12:26 AM PST reply actions
He's either a trade chip. or huge cap relief.
If the latter, Landry really needs to develop for me not to feel abused.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
I think if we're going to move T-Mac tomorrow
I’d rather deal with Philly and get AI and Dalembert. The only thing that interests me about the Knicks deal is the pick.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 18, 2010 12:31 AM PST reply actions
if that trade were on teh able houston would have done it
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
You are missing the point
Yes the Kings would take on a bad contract, but it only runs to the end of next year. The Kings would get a project in Hill and a draft pick in the deal.
where did tmac to philly come from?
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
by Eddie Gonzalez on Feb 18, 2010 12:33 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah...
… I think Hill went way higher than he should have. Panic pick by NY when all their players were off the board. He he.
by henryclemente on Feb 18, 2010 12:33 AM PST up reply actions
New updates on McGrady won't come till morning per Amick
“Was told of McGrady going to New York: “They’ll deal with that component in the morning.”"
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
I hope the Kings don't trade with NY
and just tell T-Mac to stay in NY
lulz
"It's as Ann as the nose on plain's face."
If Kings trade with NY
We gotta clear some room, so waive some players. May? Brockman? Ime?
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
What year are the proposed picks from the Knicks?
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 18, 2010 12:35 AM PST reply actions
I think I heard it was the right to switch picks in '11
I think that was the deal discussed directly with Houston
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
any pick from them would be garbage if they sign lebron
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
Why in the flying eff
would LeBron leave the Cavs who are trying to land him nice pieces to go to New York where they don’t have anything. Hell there is a better chance of LeBron going to the Clippers or Nets.
Also, if that deal with NY goes down
there’s no more savings next year. Our cap would actually move up a bit
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
i dont get how they can make all these trades and not ditch noc, cisco, or beno in the process. i mean seriously...
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
exactly... so why the hell are we giving up the best trade chip in the nba (t-mac) without someone taking on one of those?
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
Too much money!
You gotta find 29-30 mil in contracts to get back
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
We can have 15 players signed, right?
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 18, 2010 12:38 AM PST reply actions
GP has 12 hours to get creative
Let’s start the clock
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
The only guy sleeping right now
is Mike Dunleavy
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
best time to take advantage of your enemy is when they're sleeping...
at least i think i read that in the "Art of War’.
by Rhondda the musician on Feb 18, 2010 12:43 AM PST up reply actions
go
I'm a limousine-riding, jet-flying, kiss-stealing, wheeling-dealing son of a gun!!! Wooooo!!!
by Noble_Bloodlines on Feb 18, 2010 12:42 AM PST up reply actions
Kings played most of the season without martin
so basically we gained talent.
Hope
by Ultrakingsfan on Feb 18, 2010 12:43 AM PST up reply actions
I agree with you
I love Kevin, he produces a lot of points but not alot of wins and produces very little defense
"I make love to pressure" - Stephen Jackson
I'm honored to be up with crazy guys like you.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
its 6 am in argentina
fuck you Petrie
by VenomySnicket on Feb 18, 2010 12:46 AM PST up reply actions
You know how we do
I do have to go soon cause wifey thinks I’ve gone insane…. like for real now
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
ditto
it’s almost 4 on the east coast and I haven’t been able to sleep since i got word of this
Wherever I go, destruction will follow - Professor Chaos
Haah
I bought 3 monsters planning on studying all night for a chem exam but now I am just listening to the radio and chillin in this thread haha
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Feb 18, 2010 12:47 AM PST up reply actions
Hey, you have 3 hours more infor than we have in CA
whats up
There are some guys smarter than me, some guys better looking, I take comfort in the fact that there is no guy that is both.
I know that unless Petrie makes magic tomorrow, I'm gonna be pissed
Wherever I go, destruction will follow - Professor Chaos
me too haha
Tyreke Evans for R.O.Y!
by sac-townz finest on Feb 18, 2010 12:46 AM PST up reply actions
The team as it stands (unofficial)
Gone: Martin, Armstrong, Thomas, Sergio.
G: Tyreke, Beno, Cisco, Ime
F-Cs: Hawes, JT, Landry, Casspi, Donte, Noc, Brockman, May, Dorsey.
(Tmac = Jeffries, Hill, Hughes, pick).
I’m assuming I forgot someone.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 18, 2010 12:47 AM PST reply actions
Two picks supposedly
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 12:50 AM PST up reply actions
If they do the Knicks deal rumored...
they’ll have to buy out someone BEFORE the deal is done. It’d probably have to be May.
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
by CaliforniaJag on Feb 18, 2010 12:56 AM PST up reply actions
Or they can send May and Dorsey to NY?
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
(snort)...refering to how teachable is talents are, dudes, not the literal size...
which I’m sure you got & you’re just exercisizing your sarcastic gifts.
by Rhondda the musician on Feb 18, 2010 12:56 AM PST up reply actions
oops..I meant 'his gifts'. Go ahead, run with it.
by Rhondda the musician on Feb 18, 2010 12:56 AM PST up reply actions
as with all drafts - it is a guesswork and luck
He was the first Power forward taken at #8. He is considered to be the wonderful talent for his athletecism and his ability to play big – he boards, block shots and has some offensive game.
here is what draft express had to say:
Drafted: Rnd 1, Pick 8 in 2009 by Knicks
Best Case: Better Rebounding Chris Wilcox
Worst Case: Ronny Turiaf
by betweentheeyes on Feb 18, 2010 1:02 AM PST up reply actions
Turiaf wasn't a bust
Not a great player but, an 8th pick that turned into Turiaf would be
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 1:04 AM PST up reply actions
here is the link for Joey Dorsey
I am disappointed that no one remembers he was the SAT problem at Memphis that probably led to Calipari going to Kentucky
by betweentheeyes on Feb 18, 2010 1:16 AM PST up reply actions
Ya
He has been buried on the bench averaging 10 mins a game about 4 points 2 reb. He hasn’t really gotten a chance though
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Feb 18, 2010 12:50 AM PST up reply actions
Anyone see Hill in college? Does he have D and postgame?
If Hill’s no good, then what exactly would we get for Kev in these proposed deals? Mid first round picks?
he was solid in college. killed USC, but not the most skilled. lots of put backs and athletic things. hasn't translated to nba...
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
Its hard to tell in D'Antoni's system
as he doesn’t really use big men. But I thought he went too high. I thought he was late lottery or maybe a bit worse.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 12:49 AM PST up reply actions
hey all, just back from Oakland and the Warriors game
Heard Kevin Martin is being traded. I hope it is for that CJ Watson guy. He is a scoring machine.
Though seriously, Steph Curry is the real deal.
by betweentheeyes on Feb 18, 2010 12:50 AM PST reply actions
HE is
We’re are all going crazy over here with the deal.
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
Dorsey
is interesting. He is a 26 year old rookie. Is he coming in to take SATs for Tyreke?
by betweentheeyes on Feb 18, 2010 12:52 AM PST up reply actions
There was a game tonight?
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 12:53 AM PST up reply actions
I looked for you
but then remembered it was Oracle
by betweentheeyes on Feb 18, 2010 12:54 AM PST up reply actions
I pity you having to actually be there
But I told Petrie Curry was a good NBA player . . . .
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 12:55 AM PST up reply actions
He was my choice at #4 but I think it turned out okay.
Tyreke is the greater player. But he needs a team to grow with. And time.
by betweentheeyes on Feb 18, 2010 12:58 AM PST up reply actions
I know
But Petrie kind of bashed him when I mentioned him
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 1:17 AM PST up reply actions
SAC-HOU-CHI-LAL deal that works for us
Summary:
Rockets get KMart, K9, Hilton, Sergio.
Kings get Landry, Dorsey, BMiller, Jerome James, Tyrus Thomas, Sasha, Morrison.
Bulls get TMac, Noc.
Lakers get Hinrich.
Now we’d needa do some extraneous trades to get down to our max player count.
But we get to unload Noc to the Bulls, who would do this in order to get out of Hinrich’s contract (which is shorter than Noc but more money per year), and the Lakers want Hinrich cause of the arms race with Cleaveland.
In the end, we get a load of expirings plus Landry, Dorsey, and Tyrus Thomas, while unloading Noc.
Screw you Knicks! LBJ to the Kings!!!
it's all contingent in my opinion on the Lakers taking Hinrich for expirings
Screw you Knicks! LBJ to the Kings!!!
i would like to wake up to this...
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yjvyuvk
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
warriors will dump anyone except curry for expirings...
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
Nice!
Didn’t think about the Dubs. What’s the deal?
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
tmac for maggette, biedrins, and randolph. works in the machine...
nellie never plays randolph. maggette is their albatross. biedrins would be the price they pay.
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
Mmmmm
Don’t like Maggete. Would just be adding him to Noce, Beno, and Cisco to the overpaid guys
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
yeah but he is a proven 20+ ppg game guy. randolph has way more potential than hill. and biedrins would be a solid, consistent big for the kings
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
Work Morrow into that deal
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 18, 2010 1:08 AM PST up reply actions
Kayte is on
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
She's not on me
So who cares.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
It's late
Leave me alone.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Quiet! I'm fantasizing,
There are some guys smarter than me, some guys better looking, I take comfort in the fact that there is no guy that is both.
Power bottom?
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by Hit4TheCycle on Feb 18, 2010 12:55 AM PST up reply actions
Now would be a good time to discuss the obvious division re-alignment that needs to take place
Washington moved to the Central
New Orleans moved from the West to the East and put in the South East
OKC put in the South West
and Milwaukee moved from the East to the West and put in the North West
And Kayte is on the bottom
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 12:57 AM PST up reply actions
so is cisco our starting 2 guard for the future?
or for the year?…
Beno right now I think
Maybe Casspi or Donte’, but I’d guess Beno
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 12:59 AM PST up reply actions
As a money deal on a rebuilding team alone
Clearing money is tantamont. The CBA is dropping and the Kings are rebuilding. They can be beaten by Steph Curry and 4 D- Leaguers. By 30 points. The League will be going through a huge change this next year heading into the summer of 2011. For a team like the Kngs that is where the action will be and should be.
by betweentheeyes on Feb 18, 2010 12:57 AM PST reply actions
If we do the Knicks deal
our cap number goes UP for a year
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 1:00 AM PST up reply actions
But getting younger in a lock-out year
would be a big deal
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 1:02 AM PST up reply actions
Kayte, baby
Hurry up, we gotta go to bed.
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
Kayte saying Kmart couldn't handle pressure of coming back
and may have gone to Petrie to request a trade.
My take is with all the wierdness going on, Petrie initiated the meeting and didn’t like where things were heading with the team and Kevin’s attitude.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 18, 2010 1:00 AM PST reply actions
Clearly KM was told last night
this was in the works. It explains a lot
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 1:01 AM PST up reply actions
I don't know.
Why play in the 1st half but not the 2nd half?
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I don't like the potential of Jordan Hill.
But I think the deal otherwise is okay.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
So you'd go for that NY deal?
Do you remember what the pick conditions were?
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
No.
But I don’t care. I don’t want a low playoff pick instead of cap space. If you’re going all in for 2010, go all in. If not, don’t try to have it both ways.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
And I don't necessarily know that Jordan Hill is the answer either.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I think he's another chip you can trade later
We’d have JT, Hawes, Landry, and Hill. One, at least, is gonna have to go.
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
and as TZ put in his assets article
The Kings have a high pick in the 2010 lottery in a big man heavy draft.
I would love to have Evan Turner. But that is just dreaming
by betweentheeyes on Feb 18, 2010 1:07 AM PST up reply actions
I don't know if we're really going all in in 2010
Who’s coming here anyways?
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
Joe Johnson or Chris Bosh.
Look I know it’s a long shot,b ut how many teams with cap space have a quality young roster? The Kings would pay any Free Agent top dollar. That is attractive. Besides, Sac is a nice place to live during basketball season.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
No one does
I tell my family that winter has 60 degree days and they laugh like they don’t believe me.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 1:07 AM PST up reply actions
the Kings are going to get younger
Jo Jo not coming here would be more reasonable.
It is time for the patience preacher to say: Patience. Please.
by betweentheeyes on Feb 18, 2010 1:08 AM PST up reply actions
Bosh is my dude
But I don’t see him coming. Would we still have money if we make the NY trade though? I think our $$ go up by a little
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
Yeah I don't think we would at that point Ed.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I will be seeing the Kings Clips at Staples
I have no idea what to expect on the roster this Saturday night.
by betweentheeyes on Feb 18, 2010 1:10 AM PST up reply actions
Nobody does bte.
Sorry you suffered through tonight. I hope your friend gave you a reprieve.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I have shelled out three dinners in a row
I am just hoping for the Kings to have a better record than the Dubs.
by betweentheeyes on Feb 18, 2010 1:14 AM PST up reply actions
Sorry to hear that bte.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Right
If you factor in our draft pick, we’re at 16-17 million next year without trading New York. That’s enough for 1 max.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Exactly.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
The way Petrie drafts...
I want picks, picks, picks…
by henryclemente on Feb 18, 2010 1:10 AM PST up reply actions
Carl Landry'... one tough mofo!
Only a few weeks after Dikembe Mutumbo whipped his elbow around and knocked out Carl Landry’s front tooth (BAM!) he got the temporary replacement tooth knocked out by Carlos Boozer (BAM! BAM!) .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcIOLWGktZE&feature=related
Then, not long after that , Landry’s mouth collided with a Dirk Nowitzky. (BAM! BAM! BAM!) Carl lost three teeth and Dirk ended up needing stitches.
Of course even that pales in comparison to taking a bullet in the leg! Landry’s first interview after getting shot last March:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkPHG-fYWj4&feature=related
"When the going gets Weird, the Weird turn professional."
(Hunter Thompson)
Thanks for the Youtubes MM>
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
seems like a pretty nice kid
but he plays mean!
I don’t know if you caught my previous comment, pookey, but I mentioned above that I saw Barkley on TNT a few weeks ago and he was really raving about Landry. I know, raving is Charles schtick, but the guy was getting very animated, talking about how it was a travesty that Landry didn’t make the All-Star team…
"When the going gets Weird, the Weird turn professional."
(Hunter Thompson)
Charles is a schmuck MM.
He doesn’t like Dirk I suspect.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
hurry up and finish your article
we wait with baited breath :P
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
I like Charles.
He’s a cranky fat fuck who just doesn’t give a damn. I’m aspiring to that, you see.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
Idea
Sources say that the Knicks were also increasingly interested Wednesday in swinging a separate deal with the Chicago Bulls before the deadline that would send out Al Harrington in exchange for Tyrus Thomas and the expiring contract of former Knicks center Jerome James.
So what if the Knicks do that deal, followed by the Knicks including Tyrus Thomas in a McGrady deal?
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
I'd go straight to the Bulls myself
Do a BMiller + TT + whatever for T-Mac
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 1:06 AM PST up reply actions
Shit, let them dump Hinrich on us, and move Reke to SG.
You know, because, um…
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
no
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 1:08 AM PST up reply actions
NaSG
?
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
by CaliforniaJag on Feb 18, 2010 1:08 AM PST up reply actions
That I would definitely do lttg.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
No way
Im goin to sleep now. Im stunned! I always been such a big fan of Tmac its kinda sad were not gonna keep him. I wanna know whats gonna goin down!!!
LOL
This is a first. You want to keep McGrady?
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
I'd keep him, too.
but only if I wake up tomorrow and it’s 1998.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
T-Mac is a shadow of whatever he was
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 1:09 AM PST up reply actions
I hear Taco Bell wanted T-Mac to hawk the $5 Box that rocks
But settled for Barkley, who looks he’s been eating those things for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 18, 2010 1:12 AM PST up reply actions
Shadows are usually the same size as the person
T-Mac is an Air Slamson of whatever he was.
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
by CaliforniaJag on Feb 18, 2010 1:14 AM PST up reply actions
is Dave saying the Knicks deal is done?
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Sims.
Don’t piss me off. I’m amazed that I’m not unhappy that Speed has been dealt. Don’t tempt me with bullshit. Please.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I'm sour, too, but I'm waiting to see the other shoe drop.
No shoe, no joy.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
I'm sour that it ended poorly.
But it very much sounds like it’s a marriage that’s over.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
He's going to a good place
I’m happy for the dude.
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
He'll do very well there, but will we be better off?
I’m hoping we can still manage to work something with Chicago.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
makes more sense than NY
There are some guys smarter than me, some guys better looking, I take comfort in the fact that there is no guy that is both.
Hopefully
and like we’ve said, I hope people finally realize what we had once we start to miss him.
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
Its inevitable
(unless he keeps getting hurt)
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 1:16 AM PST up reply actions
no
He doesn’t know shit – just regurgitating
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 1:10 AM PST up reply actions
From what I've heard
Stein and Alridge have said that it’s likely to go down tomorrow. We’ll see I guess
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
Well, it ain't going down yesterday, and it won't by Saturday.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
How do you know?
I don’t see your sources Sims
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
I wasn't clear.
I just meant it didn’t go down yesterday, and it won’t go down Saturday. so if anything happens, it’s Thursday.
Usually I get funnier the later it gets. You should drink more.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
I totally got it
and was just running with it. I think you may need that drink Sims.
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
I may have at it. I liked having an Ohio kid on the team.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
from Zanesville
to Insanesville to Magnolia City
by betweentheeyes on Feb 18, 2010 1:21 AM PST up reply actions
are they saying that hill would go to the rockets? we wouldnt even get the first round bust?
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
no
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 1:11 AM PST up reply actions
bust?
He’s a rookie big man. He hasn’t looked great so far, but come on man…
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
not too excited about Hill...
if the trade goes down with ny, landry is beast avg 16, could see him starting for us at power forward with thompson..
maybe we get a pick from Houston
There are some guys smarter than me, some guys better looking, I take comfort in the fact that there is no guy that is both.
I'd rather have Hill than Houston's first-rounder next year.
Houston’s record is too good. The pick will suck.
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
by CaliforniaJag on Feb 18, 2010 1:14 AM PST up reply actions
A low pick...
.. in Petrie’s hands is worth more than a dumbass NY lottery selection.
by henryclemente on Feb 18, 2010 1:15 AM PST up reply actions
hill sucks too. this year was a weak class for big men. next year is full of quality big men
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
Huh..this trade or trades
leave us a tad short of ponts…unless Garcia takes the 3rd spot replacing Sergio.
There are some guys smarter than me, some guys better looking, I take comfort in the fact that there is no guy that is both.
Funny...but you're right
There are some guys smarter than me, some guys better looking, I take comfort in the fact that there is no guy that is both.
HAHA THAT WAS ME HAHA
Tyreke Evans for R.O.Y!
by sac-townz finest on Feb 18, 2010 1:17 AM PST up reply actions
I cannot understand the Knicks involvement?
If we are going to have a 23$ expiring, why not either let it expire, or trade that immedietly for a player like Okafor and a throw in etc.. It seems to make more sense to let T-Mac’s contract expire. The Knicks have nothing I want on the Kings. Still can’t believe Kevin was traded.
Knicks are willing to sell their picks to anyone who will take Jeffries.
Me like draft picks more than cap space.
by henryclemente on Feb 18, 2010 1:18 AM PST up reply actions
Daily dime
Has a bit on where T Mac could go including Chi and NY
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
Alright, I think this is it
Gotta get some sleep and wake up early for work in a couple hours. We’ll see if Petrie gets creative.
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
Petrie Levein and Cooper
undertakers or captains of the future?
by betweentheeyes on Feb 18, 2010 1:22 AM PST up reply actions
Your guess is as good as mine
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 1:23 AM PST up reply actions
Bottom line:
If Landry doesn’t evolve into a force, we don’t draft a legit big with our pick, or any potential picks we may get in a NY deal, and we can’t sign a solid big with all of our cap space, then we got fucked with our pants on.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
Ouch
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 1:24 AM PST up reply actions
But whose to say we were getting anywhere with Speed Sims?
I mean, it’s not like he was happy here any longer.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
No reason he couldn't have been.
The drama was completely unidirectional.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
Yeah it was.
Whatever it is, we’ll see how this team works out in the future.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I will keep a good thought in my head.
But when you see one of your favorites unceremoniously pushed out the door, you have to want to see something good walking in. I really want to see something tangible come from this.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
first TT now tea leaves
let’s see what happens tomorrow. Fun stuff tonight.
by betweentheeyes on Feb 18, 2010 1:24 AM PST up reply actions
This was true with or without KMart.
Without a better frontline, we are going nowhere.
by henryclemente on Feb 18, 2010 1:24 AM PST up reply actions
We were going nowhere this season anyway.
The point is that KMart had more value than expirings and a young guy
every deal is a prelude to the next deal
whether that is tomorrow or this summer on next year.
by betweentheeyes on Feb 18, 2010 1:26 AM PST up reply actions
That's what I think, basically.
I feel like if we don’t end up with a big with at least the skill level or potential of Tyrus Thomas, we really got robbed. And we may not know for awhile.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
Yep, looking bad now...
Especially true if we don’t fix the defensive low post issues then this is just a crap move.
Just a thought
From all accounts, it seemed like Petrie wouldn’t even listen on Martin…until yesterday/today. Does that mean he possibly refused to listen to an offer that would’ve been BETTER for the Kings? I trust Geoff…just a thought.
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
I think it's more like
Petrie would and did entertain any and all interesting offers, but us fans had barely an inkling that anything was bubbling under the surface.
Which is how it tends to work, especially with Petrie. He gives away nada.
"When the going gets Weird, the Weird turn professional."
(Hunter Thompson)
I don't think...
..Petrie literally hung up on anyone. So if he stayed on the phone at least long enough to hear all the offers, that means he had a pretty good idea of KMart’s value.
by henryclemente on Feb 18, 2010 1:29 AM PST up reply actions
Man
Its gonna be weird seein Kmart in a Rockets jersey.. Im watchin non stop for news on this stuff
This shit is all my fault
Got tickets to the Celtics game and wore my K-Mart jersey for the first time. Even had a lively discussion with another Kings fan outside of ARCO that he wasn’t going anywhere. Never did I think I would have worn his jersey to Kevin’s last home game. Fuck me.
From yahoo... lets not piss this guy off...
McGrady’s agent, Arn Tellem, had worked diligently with the Rockets to broker a trade for T-Mac to the Knicks, and sources say he’s now determined to get him out of Sacramento. Tellem also represents the Kings’ prized rookie, Tyreke Evans.
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
hey PG - looking at the Trade Machine it looks like the Kings accept more salary
from Houston than the give out. The difference appears to be:$3,891,060 while the Kings are only $ 1,351,791 under the cap. A difference of $2,539,269, pluse the loss of the $4.5M luxury gift. There has to be more there as this cannot work as a money saving deal.
Rockets also send cash
Does that change it?
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
by CaliforniaJag on Feb 18, 2010 2:25 AM PST up reply actions
This one will be stuck in my head for a long time.
Best of luck, Kevin!
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
Gonna be so weird to see him in a different jersey.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
If Yao is healthy next year, it boggles the mind how Martin's game might elevate.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
Seriously.
Martin back with Adelman could be amazing.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Carl Landry
Said he was fine with it, and upbeat about starting a new beginning. Houston meant alot to him but he is ready to bring the Kings some life.
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Feb 18, 2010 1:54 AM PST reply actions
Landry is a winner
they know that in Texas
by betweentheeyes on Feb 18, 2010 1:57 AM PST up reply actions
Sac-Hou-Chi-Mil
To Sac: Brad Miller, Tyrus Thomas, Carl Landry, Joey Dorsey
To Hou: Kevin Martin, Kenny Thomas, Hilton Armstrong, Sergio Rodriguez
To Chi: Tracy McGrady, Kurt Thomas, Francisco Elson
To Mil: John Salmons
In summary:
Miller (EC) + Thomas >>> Hughes, Hill, etc. via Knicks
New Depth Chart:
1 – Evans, Udrih
2 – Greene, Garcia, Udoka
3 – Casspi, Nocioni
4 – Landry, Thomas, Dorsey, May
5 – Hawes, Thompson, Miller, Brockman
Would you buy out Miller before March 1st?
I like this.
.. but it depends on what sort of draft package we can squeeze out of NY.
by henryclemente on Feb 18, 2010 2:17 AM PST up reply actions
I think I'm off to bed
Want to be fresh for the info thats gonna come in tomorrow morning. You guys have been great. Kevin Martin, I’ll miss you, wish you the best of luck in Houston. Landry, I think I might just grow to like you, and pretty soon.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
You guys have been great tonight.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
I remember Kevin said that just before Adelman left he took Kevin aside and offered very, very encouraging words to him. You could tell it meant a lot to Kevin. Those two deserve each other—good luck to them both.
"El once, chico. Eleven."
Nice!
I got the last question in on the radio show.. hahah
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Feb 18, 2010 2:20 AM PST reply actions
Was I the first caller?
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Went to basketball reference and they have an expanded stats page
that ranks the top 20 in 41 different categories. Not all of them are positive such as turnover leader (go Steve Nash) or foul leader (yay JT) but most list the best player in the league. If for nothing else you should go to this site to see how many ’Reke is in the league top 20 in. For the purposes of this thread I wanted to see how well Carl Landry does compared to the whole league. So out of 41 categories, not all of them positive Carl Landry ranked in the top 20 in the league in 8 of the positive ones:
Link: http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2010_leaders.html (don’t know how to do the link thing)
Field goal pct #13 .543
Free throws #17 235
P.E.R. #18 21.4
True Shooting PCT #9 .618
Effective Field Goal PCT #19 .618
Offensive Rebound PCT #19 9.6% JT is #11 @ 11.1%
Offensive Rating #12 119.8 just behind Pau Gasol
Offensive win shares #19 +4.2
Kevin was the second best scorer on the team, Carl Landry is going to be the second most productive player on this team and is only 3 pts behind where Kevin was in his 3rd year. We are going to miss Kevin for sure but it looks to me like Petrie has traded for a player who is growing into almost a good as scorer as Kevin is but brings a bunch more assets to the table than Kevin does.
For the record, Kevin was not listed in any of the lists but that might be because he hasn’t played enough minutes.
"I make love to pressure" - Stephen Jackson
Okay peoples
My piece is up at EC.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Not that I need comments
But you can sign up for an account over there the same way you did with SBN. Future reference.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
It's okay Noce.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
It's okay Noce.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
hey Pook...sweet writeup at EC
but a question. You mentioned that Landry has a player option next year. I thought it was a team option, but I’ve been known to be wrong. Could Landry opt out next season? I sure hope this is not the case
by thisismellow on Feb 18, 2010 3:55 AM PST up reply actions
Zach Harper has a great article at CK
Read it if you haven’t. Zach likes Landry, and I like his offense.
Thanks Mellow. As far as Landry’s option, according to Sham it is a team option. Great catch mellow. I’ll update EC.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
yea i read that
Will be interesting to see what happens. But Im not too happy with NY as the trade partner, I might be persuaded differently if NY does the separate deal for TT and then he is included coming back to us..
The New York deal sounds like crap. I think the Kings are better off if they buy out Tmac.
I don’t think Jordan Hill is all that enticing of a package with Carl Landry around.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Agree But
Would Jordan Hill be trade bait for someone else on draft night.. Maybe better than getting nothing in return for TMAX
Cap space
The Kings got significant cap space and a good player in Carl Landry for Kevin Martin. That was the best they could get. Additionally, they got cash to help with the bottom line and they get to move a player with whom they weren’t working well with. The franchise and Kevin clearly agree it was time to move on.
I’m going to root for Kevin in Houston. I like the Rockets anyway, but this gives me another reason. Kevin, I think, knew the marriage was over in the back of his mind. I don’t think he dislikes the fans, but I think his love affair with Sac was clearly over. Too much shit had gone on between now and the start of the season. He needs a fresh start. Houston is very much that.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Most Def
I ll be routing for Houston and Kevin too, Sad that he was such a professional with all the crap every one said to him indirectly. It seems like he’ll fit in there, and I feel like Houston really got what they wanted, a quality player for mcgrady.. Off topic (We also seem to do alot of trades with houston.)
Morey & Petrie have a repoire. That helps to make deals.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
no worries at all
for a second there you had me really doubting the move!!!! it’s 10:30pm here and i’m thinkin of pulling the old “all nighter” as i’m sure some other have…..but something tells me GP has the phone on silent and in the other room on this one. i think sleep might be the better option for me.
by thisismellow on Feb 18, 2010 4:03 AM PST up reply actions
A minor move is possible. So is acquiring another player.
The other part of this is important too. The Kings could look for a 3rd PG (although I doubt it with Cisco back). There’s any number of things that this team could still do.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Wow, this kind of sucks.
Good luck Kevin.
My take as it stands right now. We get Landry. Cool. But too much to give up.
If we complete the trade, by moving T-Mac on to the Knicks for Hill and a couple of #1s, then I’m okay with this. I’m not happy, but Landry, Hill and 2 #1s is a good enough return.
Now to go read the crazy reactions.
Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru
Oh, and I promised to blame Ziller if this happened.
Way to Jinx it Ziller!
Ziller!
/shakes fist
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by Kfan in Korea on Feb 18, 2010 3:50 AM PST up reply actions
Kfan I don't like the NY deal.
I’d rather have cap space and the pick from the draft than Jordan Hill. I do’t think he’s the answer or the solution to the problems the Kings have.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Fuck the Knicks and Jordan Hill.
Happy?
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I'm crazy no doubt.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I doubt Walsh will go to sleep. I'm sure he's wired.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I’m not terribly high on Jordan Hill. Just because he has the names of two great NBA players and looks a bit like Chris Bosh doesn’t make him one. All his stats in college are worse than Blair’s, and I bet the Knicks would love to have Jennings or even DeRozan instead now. Depending on how steep the protections on the picks are, it’s still a good deal to move T-Mac’s expiring corpse/contract for that package. Even though it helps the Knicks to reach their goal of signing two significant free agents.
Apparently that was the hangup between the Knicks and Rockets about a direct swap: Strong or not so strong draft pick protection.
I don't think the Kings will want that deal.
I said this in my piece, but they will be going hard after Chris Bosh in Free Agency. T hey have the roster, the fit, and the need all there. They can even make a S&T work Norskie. I can’t imagine why they would risk that when they could save money this season, have ample cap space with the draft pick factored in, and still figure out a way to make another deal if Bosh doesn’t work out.
Hell someone like Troy Murphy might be had for free or very very little.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Also I get the feeling that New York is trying to maximize Jordan Hills value rather than wait for it to potentially sink any lower (which can't be much)
I think they are so desperate to get LeBron & Bosh to NY that they will gut the entire team. I just don’t think that will entice either guy to come there though.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I don't know
If Bosh would want to come to Sac, there will be other teams (miami, Ny, NJ) who can pay the same money and have more marketable cities. However I do agree with you that Bosh might lean to playing in Sac because of the rising talent we’ve got (Evans, Donte, Casspi).
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Feb 18, 2010 4:18 AM PST up reply actions
He fits in with Spence & Landry too.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Sho.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Dunno who the Kings can land, but that scenario ain't happening
Maybe Joe Johnson, though that seems not terribly likely as well.
I don't care if you believe me or not.
I think the Kings are in play for Bosh no matter how small.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Bulls don't have enough cap space to do it.
I don’t think the Bulls are a franchise that will appeal to Bosh either. I doubt NY is good enough, and the Nets are the one team that can rival the Kings ability to pay him AND offer a talented young roster.
I feel confident that the Kings can make a run at Bosh that they couldn’t have done a year ago. That’s the difference Norskie.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Bulls have 37 million in committed salary after the Salmons trade, and that’s before maybe shipping out Kirk & Tyrus today. The question is not if they have the money for one max free agent, but for two like what the Knicks try to do.
Well I don't see them having enough for two. Kirk Hinrich doesn't make that much money. Plus, you have to factor in picks. Chicago is not likely to renounce the picks.
I just don’t see Bosh going to Chicago.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I doubt he opts to come to Sactown over a chance to pair up with wade though
or a chance to go to New York or New Jersey with Lebron if they are able to clear enough space for two max contracts.
RUDY > MJ
Thank you KP
It would take an incredible amount of luck to get 2 max contracts.
The only team that can do that is Miami.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Which is why I think they will be pretty easily the strongest candidate in the Bosh running
There is still other good players available though. Joe Johnson certainly wouldn’t be a bad consolation prize, if you guys feel like he would be a fit next to Tyreke…
RUDY > MJ
Thank you KP
Also the space for a sign and trade or a general trade with a non-free agent
Lots of ways the Kings could go with lotsa cap space. Doesn’t HAVE to be a free agent.
#52
Yeah but name a better PF.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Better than Bosh and is available? None
BUT who knows is all I’m a’ sayin’… between now and next summer, some other key players may wanna change locations and their team wants to trade them for free and not have to take salary back.
#52
How many bigs would you rather have than Bosh period?
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
2?
DH and Pao.
Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru
by Kfan in Korea on Feb 18, 2010 5:34 AM PST up reply actions
Bosh is a bit better board man than Pau though. Don't care about the passing either.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
And Pao is quite a bit older, so yeah
probably just DH.
Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru
by Kfan in Korea on Feb 18, 2010 5:40 AM PST up reply actions
You don't care about how great a passer Pau is?
Either way, Bosh would be an awesome male companion to Tyreke.
#52
Not many, of course.
But, say, in case he stays put or likes Wade more… cap space gives the Kings versatility to move on from there. Doesn’t have to be Bosh or nuthin’.
It’s a possibility that has to be accounted for.
#52
And I agree.
I meant in the FA market Morty. I should have made that clear, right? Yes, I should have. LOL
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Shoot, he's the ONLY big available in the unrestricted FA market, isn't he?
That I can think of, anywho.
#52
Lee and Milsap too?
Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru
by Kfan in Korea on Feb 18, 2010 5:38 AM PST up reply actions
No to Lee Millsap & Boozer.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
thanks
wasn’t sure about Mili
Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru
by Kfan in Korea on Feb 18, 2010 5:40 AM PST up reply actions
Milsapp is signed to a long deal now
Lee is available, yeah.
I would think you guys would want a better defender than Lee, Boozer, or Amare though.
#52
Exactly. Whiich Bosh is.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
You going to sleep soon?
I gotta duck out for about 20 minutes. I’m hungry.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Yeah, prolly in a lil' bit
But if I am around I’ll be here! I mainly just wanted to make sure the Kings weren’t bending over for the Knicks for no reason.
#52
Yeah I can see you care about my Baby Royals
And with that, have a good day Morty. As always.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
But eat good, I'll see ya soon one way or another
Deadline day will be interesting.
Only 6 more hours, I guess… news should start trickling in now.
#52
Why I'm not going to sleep.
Plus I have my respects to Speed piece to write.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
especially considering the money those guys will demand
Due to offers from the teams that miss out on the big names…
RUDY > MJ
Thank you KP
No. Fuck No. Hell fucking no. Hell fucking no until the end of Earth.
Fuck. No.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
The Kings won't sign him.
I think it’s Bosh or bust. Before today, the Kings didn’t have the cap space to pursue it. The truth is, the Kings have the roster to entice Bosh that Miami doesn’t. Plus, Sac an offer just as much. If I were Bosh I’d think 3-4 years down the road.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Wade and Beasley would be a petty enticing duo
Other than that it gets obviously thin. But with Wade, Bosh, and Beasley, a lot of guys are going to want to go to that team. After those 3 you only really need solid role players anyway. Plus, they are in the east, which equals a much easy road to the playoffs and a good seed than the Kings would face…
RUDY > MJ
Thank you KP
Bosh is also newly single, same as Wade
Miami is very enticing for single rich guys.
I hope the Kings can get him, but that’s the nice about about a lot of cap space— there are plenty of options.
#52
Bosh dump his wife?
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Fiancee/girlfriend
Yeah. They broke up, she sued him, it’s a mess. He’s single now. AND HUNGRY FOR POON RAWR.
#52
I think it's cap space, picks and Hill
Hill is kind of a throw in. I think it’s worth giving him a shot. He may turn into something decent.
Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru
by Kfan in Korea on Feb 18, 2010 4:08 AM PST up reply actions
Rather take the risk that Chris Bosh wont' come here than not have that cap space available.
That’s me.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
We'll still have plenty of cap flexibility though won't we?
It would take a sign and trade to get a Bosh here anyway. He’ll want the extra year.
Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru
by Kfan in Korea on Feb 18, 2010 4:15 AM PST up reply actions
Well if that's the case he may want it.
There’s enough to get a S&T. This isn’t the end of the world. If you’re going to have cap space, 2010 is the time to have it. Especially if you have a talented young roster that is missing a superstar PF.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
If we do the NY trade
How badly does that effect cap space if we just let T-Mac expire? sorry I am bad with cap room math
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Feb 18, 2010 4:20 AM PST up reply actions
Off the top of my head you're losing around 9 million dollars.
You’re talking about 10-11 million of cap space instead of 20 million. That’s a huge difference.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
And that's with Carl Landry added.
That being said, I don’t see why the Kings would value Jordan Hill for a test run over less than maximum cap space to entice Bosh. Especially with the draft where you can shore up any position you want.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Ya
not to mention if we get NY pick a year from now they could have a couple all-stars making the pick a late rounder so it would be risky not even mentioning the loss of cap space
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Feb 18, 2010 4:24 AM PST up reply actions
Right.
If the Kings were still in rebuilding mode I’d say do it. But, they aren’t. They’re much much closer to something special and worthwhile.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I like your positive outlook
But every report I ve read on ESPN says that sources still think that TMAC ends up in NY.. I really hope their wrong.. Well they were wrong about Kevin getting traded so thats a plus..
Nobody had this deal coming. Nobody. Sam Amick didn't hear of it. Nobody heard of it. Nobody saw this deal coming.
Just because ESPN is talking doesn’t mean they have an insight into Geoff Petrie’s thinking here. That said, anything is possible. I just can’t imagine the Kings think Jordan Hill and Jared Jeffries is worth eating that cap space.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I knew nobody did Norskie.
We’re realistic.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Would you guys prefer to include the knicks in the trade or just do it straight up with the rockets?
I am curious to see how this trade unravels as the day goes on…
RUDY > MJ
Thank you KP
I prefer the Rockets end only.
I don’t want the Kings to do the Knicks deal and makes this deal far less understandable.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Thats what I figured
I don’t see why you would turn down extra cap space to get Jeffries, Hill, and a pick that could either be really(they dont sign any big names), or really bad(they get LBJ and whoever else). Also, ya’ll do feel like you could have a shot at Bosh, you wouldnt to have any part of helping the knicks get far enough under the cap to sign two max’s. Just my outsiders, uninformed opinion…
RUDY > MJ
Thank you KP
I swear SBN has been cutting random words out of my posts lately
really good*….
If*ya’ll…
RUDY > MJ
Thank you KP
3pm ET
so that would be 12pm WC if my calculations are correct
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Feb 18, 2010 4:26 AM PST up reply actions
Yes 12pm West Coast US time.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
7 1/2 hrs to go!!!!!!!!!!
Remember this post on STR
Rockets tried to recruit Kings in T-Mac deal Kings would give up K-9, Beno, Noc, and a protected 1st and would get Salmons, Miller, TT. Scenario in jeopardy with Salmons traded to Bucks. Jerome James could be included to make salaries match instead
no one even thunk that Kevin was involved..
Damn
Don’t remind me. That was an awesome trade.
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
by CaliforniaJag on Feb 18, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions
Landry
He should be playing Saturday vs. LAC right?
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Feb 18, 2010 4:27 AM PST reply actions
Most likely will be.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Yay
Do you think the Kings plan on eventually having him as a starter? or 6th man like Houston was doing it?
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Feb 18, 2010 4:30 AM PST up reply actions
Doesn't matter. He can play. I'm sure PW will find a spot for him.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I would suspect yes.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Looking forward to Ziller's response
due any time now.
Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru
by Kfan in Korea on Feb 18, 2010 4:57 AM PST up reply actions
When he does it is fine with me.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
So yeah, persuade me
On the one hand, we don’t get any bad contracts, get rid of McGrady once and for all…… on the other hand, Martin is from my perspective pretty injury-prone, and we just wasted the last four years with one injury-prone star, and Landry was a badass.
So I’m not quite certain about this. Still, you guys already were my second team, and with Carl Landry, you guys definitely are.
Minnesotan Rockets fan
Bleh. Bleh. Bleh.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Well
not going to convince you. I just think Martin is an offensive player that when used right can be downright offensive to other teams defense. Plus, the Rockets have the players and concepts to help Martin defensively in ways the Kings could not with regards to Martin.
Kevin’s injurys are a problem, but I think the bigger problem was fit. For whatever reason, the marriage didn’t work any longer. It was a time for a change. The Rockets facilitated that. I’m confident this deal will end up working for both sides in the long run.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
So Pook and Friends
WHY would the Kings trade T-Mac’s monster expiring deal, for bad contracts and a so-so prospect and draft picks that stand a chance at not being all that great once NY signs big stars because they got T-Mac’s expiring deal?
I don’t see what’s in it for the Kings…
#52
They wouldn't.
Not when you can save 5 million in cash expenses for the Maloof’s while you’re at it. There is a lot of bottom line in this deal plus a basketball deal (Landry) mixed in. I like it in a lot of ways. Unfortunately it included SpeedRacer which saddens me. But, so it goes.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Yeah, I think the Martin for Landry thing is done and dusted-- and I think it is fine for both teams
I just don’t see why, once the Kings got T-Mac’s deal, they would trade it to the Knicks, like everyone thinks they will do.
Seems more like biased NY rumours that make no sense. You don’t WANT any of their crappy contracts OR Jordan Hill, so I didn’t see what was in it for you guys.
I hope you guys don’t help them when there ain’t much in it for you.
#52
I think it was a carry-over from the Hou-NY rumors.
And they just transfered over. I think this was a far preferable deal from Houston’s POV. I don’t blame them either; it makes sense for them in every angle. Like Kings fans are emotional about Kevin Martin, Rockets fans are emotional about Carl Landry. It doesn’t mean that Kevin Martin can’t help them into the playoffs this year. He’s a great fit with Yao Ming too I think.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
If the package is as reported
Hughes expires this year, Jeffries expires next year, so T-Mac for Hill, a pick and a chance to swap picks for a one year rental of Jeffires(a valuable expiring heading into the lock-out). Seems like a decent deal to me.
Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru
by Kfan in Korea on Feb 18, 2010 5:22 AM PST up reply actions
Don't say stupid shit. You won't be perceived as stupid.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Okay I'm kidding Kfan.
The reality is that the extra 9 MILLION in cap space is valuable if you’re going to try and entice Bosh to leave Toronto or the other options he has this summer. You can’t do it without that cap space. Even more so if you try to get Toronto in a S&T.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I hope you're right
that we have interest in Bosh, but I don’t think we have any plans to spend cash this year. I think our plans are all based on next year after the new CBA.
Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru
by Kfan in Korea on Feb 18, 2010 5:27 AM PST up reply actions
Plans change. How many times have you heard me say that I think 2010 is in play? Never. I never thought so. Not until now.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I hope you're right
I’m very skeptical. I doubt we’re looking to spend any real money at this point. But I’d love to get Bosh in here.
Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru
by Kfan in Korea on Feb 18, 2010 5:30 AM PST up reply actions
The Kings got 3 mil in cash from Houston. They'll likely save a couple million in buying Tmac out.
This team has been saving a lot of money for over a year. If you don’t spend it on players you won’t get people in the door. Especially if people find out that you could have had Bosh AND woudln’t sign him because you didn’t want to spend money. The last thing the Maloof’s could do is think small. They aren’t Donald Sterling.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Whose pick? The Knicks next season?
I’d hope at LEAST you’d get two top-3 protected first rounders out of it, and not have to swap.
It’s a big favor for the Knicks, so I hope you guys get more out of it. Swapping picks may have very little value next season and beyond.
#52
Exactly.
It’s a dumb rumor. I think I’m still talking about it because it’s something to talk about. Otherwise, I see it as completely pointless to talk about.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
That makes me glad then
I hope it is just a dumb NY-biased rumour. Makes little sense to me, since it isn’t like you guys NEED to trade T-Mac because he’s an insane cancer in the locker room.
#52
I'll be pissed if Tmac ever plays a second.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Knicks have traded their pick for this year
so next year would be and option to swap(can’t trade it outright in a consecutive year) and then a 2012 with some protection possible. At least I think that’s what the deal was rumored to be.
Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru
by Kfan in Korea on Feb 18, 2010 5:28 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, the Jazz can swap for their pick this year.
Seems to me, the more cap space the Knicks get, the less valuable their 1st round picks become. Especially when it’s swapping, and not just “having”.
I know the NY and ESPN media types think everyone should bend over backwards to give the Knicks 50 million in cap space, but I hope the Kings don’t agree.
#52
Hidey ho mort
I am with you. I don’t see what allowing New York into the trade does for Sacramento. It seems to me like the Kings hold all the cards, they have the player that houston desires…
RUDY > MJ
Thank you KP
I think the Maloof's will care more about the monetary savings rather than a low draft pick. There's just so little available there for the Kings in that particular scenario. Especially since Jordan Hill is the sweetner.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
yeah, and Hill looks like he has a long ways to go to get to Drew Gooden or Wilcox territory.
The Kings hold the cards, will be interesting to see how it goes down.
#52
I miss him already
Good Luck Kevin! Thanks for the memories.
I think Kevin's defense
was infectiously bad and poor model of stopping dribble drive penetration at the point of attack for Reke. Like Simmon said, Martin was a luxury that they can’t afford. They actually scored less without him. I’m not sure we want cap space, its not like everyone is dying to play in Sac (Reke seems to be the only draw.)
Ron Rivera for Cal Head Coach. I'm a one man movement!
by bringbackbuddytrees on Feb 18, 2010 5:41 AM PST reply actions
Reke also doesnt have much of a choice :p
What a great pick he was though, I love his game…
RUDY > MJ
Thank you KP
I LOOK SO SMART
ME ME ME I PICKED HIM TO BE THE ROOKIE O’ DA’ YEAR ME ME ME.
I GET THE CREDIT FOR EVERYTHING TYREKE DOES.
ME.
Mortimer
#52
Remind me to shoot you in the ass with a BB gun Morty.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I also remember you saying “Derrick Rose will be the MVP, Bucher and Steiny Mo and Legler can suck it! They have no idea!!!”
Heehee
Best MVP pick by Bucher ever.
No sophomore has been MVP in a billion years, of COURSE it’d be the good-not-great Derrick Rose.
#52
Even the best season Rose could dream of having
Wouldn’t likely be a MVP season.
I have no idea what Bucher was thinking with that.
#52
No. It's one of the things that allows you to survive at StR. Be smarter than those idiots.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I'll tell you what
Peggle freaking sucks.
1,000,000 points to pass off the challenge and I get stuck with 998,110.
Now, back to your regularly scheduled waiting game.
PS: Peggle doesn’t really suck
m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!
Do you like the trade Jedi?
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I'm really bummed that Martin's gone, since he's my favorite player.
I think Landry will be a good pickup, but I’m just not sure if they got enough value in return. Kevin is one of the most talented scorers I’ve ever seen, and Landry, while a good offensive presence, doesn’t seem to be much of a plus on defense. I’m sure he’ll end up being a fan favorite, and I’m pretty sure that he’ll fit in with JT. I just can’t quite wrap my head around the T-Mac situation. I don’t see the Kings having much of a shot in the free agent sweepstakes, but then I don’t want them to take on any stupid contracts (which is really the only way to get anything back for McGrady).
It all depends on what happens in the next few hours. As of now, I’m okay with it, even though I don’t like it, because it’s clear to me that the Kings can use more help on the front line more than they can effectively use Martin (they didn’t seem to be willing to draw plays up for him).
m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!
I wish it would have worked. Now that I see it wasn't going to, or the personalities involved would have meant shipping others out
I can live with the result. The Kings made a decision that it wouldn’t work. Long term it shouldn’t matter. Short term, we’ll see what happens.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Oh, also another question
You guys have any idea what you’re doing with McGrady? Start him? Let him sit his whiny butt in Chicago with Grover?
Minnesotan Rockets fan
latest rumor is he's headed for NY
If not I would expect us to buy him out. Save a bit of cash and let him sign on with a contender.
Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru
by Kfan in Korea on Feb 18, 2010 5:50 AM PST up reply actions
Ziller isn't happy
Hey @DMorey, you forgot to steal my dog, too. You pillaged my town, you might as well take the dog too, man.
As did I.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Do you guys think Geoff already knows what he's doing with tracys ex, or
he just sees it as an asset and see what happens from there… basically, do u think he has a plan?
I got another question
You guys hear anything bad about Sergio?
Ben from Blazers Edge tweeted earlier that a Kings front office guy he talked with confided to Ben that the Kings regret trading a 2nd round pick for Sergio.
#52
Anytime Ben says something negative about Sergio, I tend to discount it...
He loved piling on that guy. Unless it was locker room stuff, I don’t see how they could be that upset about moving down 6 picks in the draft and getting $$$ as well. I dont think there is anyway Sergio has been that bad. Maybe it cost them a chance at Blair and thats why they’re pissed? I dunno….
RUDY > MJ
Thank you KP
I heard the only reason the Kings traded Martin was to appease Sergio's bloodlust
The guy is insatiable!!
#52
And I agree about Benny Blanco and Sergio
I wouldn’t trust me about Sergio either, but Ben didn’t like him so… yeah.
#52
If what Ben said is true about the 2nd round pick and Sergio
It’s only because they wanted DeJuan Blair. And, who knows what that means. Ben has also told me that Geoff Petrie could be on the way due to his sources. Which I already knew and knew it was possible given that Petrie had turned down extensions. Ben’s awesome at what he does, but he doesn’t know more about the Kings or the dynamic of this franchise than I do or TZ or Amick for that matter. Which is not to say Ben doesn’t know a shitton about the Blazers & the L. He definitely does.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Well, I only bring it up because Ben says he got that from an actual front office guy with the Kings
I can’t imagine Sergio has the presence to really cause any problems, I assume it’s for someone like Blair or whoever.
#52
could be that the FO feels bad that he hasn't gotten a lot of burn
with Tyreke being as ready as he has been and the resurgence of Beno. At the time of the trade, Sergio made a lot of sense.
Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru
by Kfan in Korea on Feb 18, 2010 6:17 AM PST up reply actions
That I disagree with. I never thought he made sense. I think the Kings were trying to be nice to Sergio and throw him a bone. I think the FO did it for the 2.9 of SPAM.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Damn
I picked the wrong night to go to bed early.
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
It's okay
I got a piece up if you want guarded optimism.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I'll check it out when I get to work Pook
You been up all night??
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
Yes I'm going to be up for awhile.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Me and YOu both
I fell asleep during thedebacle of a game and was dreading reading about evrything bad with the Kings and then I see this?
I need a drink!
A-woj is saying that if he gets bought out by whoever ends up with him, he wants to sign with the cavs or Lakers
Of course you do, good luck with that…
RUDY > MJ
Thank you KP
The got roster openings, according to the word on the street
Why they would do it is beyond me, but who knows.
Maybe the Celtics do it, a team in need of a boost.
#52
What happened to the JD? Did it die? LOL
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
You don't bother me. I figured the JD died and you came over here to talk about the Martin trade. You picked a good time.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Yeah, I mainly came by because I was curious about the Knicks portion of it all
I hope you guys tell them to piss off. I don’t hate the Knicks, but they got nuthin’ you actually want that equals what you’d be giving them.
#52
Morty
I’m still confused as hell to why the Clipps did the Blazers a favor. So, I know shit at this point bro. LOL
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Dunleavy owed Paul Allen a solid!
We gave them cash though, Sterling loves cash… not as much as we COULDA’ given them, but yeah… right now, it seems like we came out ahead on that one.
#52
LOL Rudiculous
I think that too.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Does that mean I bother you!?
I am offended :p I just wanted to see how this unfolds, its the most interesting part of the deadline to me…
RUDY > MJ
Thank you KP
And one of the most unexpected
Maybe I’m just out of it, but Kevin Martin changing teams wasn’t expected by me, and I didn’t hear any rumors about it at all and then BOOM, he’s traded.
Things can change fast.
#52
I'm not really shocked.
I’m really thinking that the franchise just said enough.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I dont' think they decided it early on. I think they've been leaning towards it and just wanted to see what would happen and how things would transpire.
Things never got better and they had to move him. It doesn’t make me excited for the other young guys. Omri in particular. Dude has way too high of an opinion of himself. Tyreke Evans he is not.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I think all of the support he gets being the first Israeli made his head a little big
by sac_faithful on Feb 18, 2010 6:34 AM PST up reply actions
He always had a big ego. It was my main worry about him. Always was and will be. I'm not alone in this either.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I agree but....
I am lost because because we did not get whate we wanted, and i am hard pressed to think we could not have gotten a better big with another package. Martin-Beno for Okafor, something like that. This trade smells like stale ass!
I just don't want all the K-mart haters to start up.
Its like when you come home from school and your mom tells you your dog is dead
They will. Just ignore them.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
T-Mac with Noc/Beno
If the Kings did anything like that with one team, the other team would literally have to trade roughly half of their roster.
Just ESPN hogwash chen.
Ignore it.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I heard an interesting idea floated on the radio regarding T-Mac to the Knicks
What if we send him to the Knicks and take both of Jeffries and Curry but also take Gallo?
www.mancancook.net
Gallo, I'll remind you
is a European forward with a bad back who can stroke the three. AKA, Geoff Petrie’s wet dream
www.mancancook.net
We could flip McGrady for
Nick Collison (2 yrs), Etan Thomas (Ex), Matt Harpring (Ex) and some first rounders.
Link
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yju6q5e
OKC has multiple first rounders this year and next year.
Any chance
Of us flipping Landry with Noce/Beno for something? I personally don’t think so but was wondering if anyone else had thought of any ideas.
Motivation to Flip TMAC
If the Kings can’t get David Lee, I don’t see why they would do a deal with the Knicks.
The only thing that could bridge the gap would be draft picks, but the Knicks were balking when Houston was asking for them to be unprotected, which the Kings would also want.
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