Trade Deadline 3 Hours to Go Thread
by Aykis16 on Feb 18, 2010 9:23 AM PST
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3 Hours to go in the Trade Deadline so I'll be updating any news here.
The Kings, Rockets, and Knicks have completed a trade. Kevin Martin, Jordan Hill, Jared Jeffries, Hilton Armstrong a swap of picks in 2011 (top 1 protected) between Houston and New York, and New York's 2012 first rounder (top 5 protected) go to Houston, Tracy McGrady and Sergio Rodriguez go to New York, Carl Landry, Joey Dorsey and Larry Hughes Expiring Contract.
Final details and link on ESPN here.
Old and newer updates after the jump
UPDATE (9:30 AM):
Well that came and went fast. Lee apparently has to approve trades, and nobody from the Kings has contacted his reps and there isn't enough time before the deadline to do so apparently. Also, Ford is saying he wouldn't approve.
Per Woj Twitter - "As much as Kings would love David Lee, there isn't enough time to get him to agree to trade, source says. No contact made with his reps."
Also, according to Woj, there will be "fireworks" if Kings don't trade T-Mac. His agent represents Tyreke Evans and a few other Kings.
UPDATE (9:52 AM):
Per Woj's Twitter: "For the Kings to take Jared Jeffries, they're also asking for David Lee and picks in N.Y., source says. Guess how that's going over at MSG?"
So its probably unlikely, but we'll see what happens.
UPDATE (9:59 AM): TZ jumping in for a second to let you know that Arn Tellem is being pretty silly right now. Just a bizarre demand.
UPDATE (10:16 AM):
WojYahooNBA The Kings have traded Tracy McGrady to the Knicks, sources tell Y! Sports. (-Ex G)
UPDATE (10:19 AM):
Well this is awesome. Kings receive Landry, Dorsey, and Hughes expiring. Knicks get T-Mac and Sergio. Rockets get Martin, Jeffries, swap of 2011 picks with NY, and NY's 2012 pick. We get to keep K-9!!!!!
UPDATE (10:32 AM):
Final deal per Sam Amick's Twitter: "McGrady to NY a done deal. Kings get Larry Hughes, Carl Landy and Dorsey. Sergio Rodriguez to NY. Jordan Hill and Jeffries to Houston."
UPDATE (10:56 AM):
Kevin Martin will be on the Jim Kozimor Show to say goodbye to Sacramento. Tune in at noon on KHTK 1140 AM if you want to listen.
UPDATE (11:13 AM):
Hilton Armstrong to be sent to Houston to make deal work monetarily.
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Oh shit yes, David Fucking Lee.
Make it so, number one.
Sound the trumpets, Raise the drawbridge, and drop the Oldsmobile
by Balky Needs on Feb 18, 2010 9:24 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Too bad this isn't going to work out.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
We need to try and get TT
You know what I really love, I really love the Lacoste Sport Sweat suit man. The one that looks like the orange that's the same color as fruit loop orange! Houses like clovers, houses like clovers whatever that man says! Twinkle, Stars, Diamonds, Emeralds. We got every color bruh! It's fu@#in crazy man. This fool walked up to me the other day, and was like blood, where did you get them at yo? What, you made them? I said, man we don't make nothin man! We don't make nothin man. We just make your girl give h%@d. When she sees these on sight. She never thought they come in size twelves man. I wear size twelves man!
Damn, Then come on David Lee
We should be trying to get their 1st round pick!
You know what I really love, I really love the Lacoste Sport Sweat suit man. The one that looks like the orange that's the same color as fruit loop orange! Houses like clovers, houses like clovers whatever that man says! Twinkle, Stars, Diamonds, Emeralds. We got every color bruh! It's fu@#in crazy man. This fool walked up to me the other day, and was like blood, where did you get them at yo? What, you made them? I said, man we don't make nothin man! We don't make nothin man. We just make your girl give h%@d. When she sees these on sight. She never thought they come in size twelves man. I wear size twelves man!
NY can't trade this year's 1st round pick
since they gave it to Utah, neither can trade next year’s, since they can’t trade picks two years in a row. They could swap it with our pick, but if they end up signing one or two big fas this summer, we’ll probably lose by swapping our pick with theirs.
"Even when I’m old and grey, I won’t be able to play it, but I’ll still love the game." — Michael Jordan
Go Kings!
How about the 2012 and 2014 picks?
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 18, 2010 10:09 AM PST up reply actions
I think they can trade next year's
because the pick that Utah has was traded a few years ago and was protected. Technically they can trade next years, still. The deal with Houston was that they would swap 2011 picks, that way NY still had a 2011 first, then NY would send Houston their 2012 first rounder as well
www.mancancook.net
Yep.
That dream is over.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
For who?
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Law, Murray and a future first.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Good trade for Charlotte.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
What a crap trade.
Go figure.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I'd be a hell of a lot more excited about getting Lee than TT
I suppose it is just a rental though…
RUDY > MJ
Thank you KP
This is going to be a long 3 hours.
Goodbye productivity!
Dip til I rip
by Muff209 on Feb 18, 2010 9:26 AM PST via mobile reply actions
I know, and I really need to get some work done
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 9:27 AM PST up reply actions
We need to get another 1st rounder
You know what I really love, I really love the Lacoste Sport Sweat suit man. The one that looks like the orange that's the same color as fruit loop orange! Houses like clovers, houses like clovers whatever that man says! Twinkle, Stars, Diamonds, Emeralds. We got every color bruh! It's fu@#in crazy man. This fool walked up to me the other day, and was like blood, where did you get them at yo? What, you made them? I said, man we don't make nothin man! We don't make nothin man. We just make your girl give h%@d. When she sees these on sight. She never thought they come in size twelves man. I wear size twelves man!
David Lee
Is like a third cousin twice removed or something from one of my coworkers. He was in their Christmas letter. I’ll see what I can do.
;-)
A lonely Kings fan in a sea of gold and purple...
Make it happen!
You know what I really love, I really love the Lacoste Sport Sweat suit man. The one that looks like the orange that's the same color as fruit loop orange! Houses like clovers, houses like clovers whatever that man says! Twinkle, Stars, Diamonds, Emeralds. We got every color bruh! It's fu@#in crazy man. This fool walked up to me the other day, and was like blood, where did you get them at yo? What, you made them? I said, man we don't make nothin man! We don't make nothin man. We just make your girl give h%@d. When she sees these on sight. She never thought they come in size twelves man. I wear size twelves man!
Also?
I gave up electronic distractions for Lent. I sent in a prayer for a 24 hour postponement though, so hopefully I’m good.
A lonely Kings fan in a sea of gold and purple...
Well thats not happening
Lee can reject trades, and not enough time remains to get him to agree since nobody has contacted his reps yet. “As much as Kings would love David Lee, there isn’t enough time to get him to agree to trade, source says. No contact made with his reps.” – From Woj Twitter.
Never say never though right?
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
If we can't get Lee at least The Kings should try and get draft picks
You know what I really love, I really love the Lacoste Sport Sweat suit man. The one that looks like the orange that's the same color as fruit loop orange! Houses like clovers, houses like clovers whatever that man says! Twinkle, Stars, Diamonds, Emeralds. We got every color bruh! It's fu@#in crazy man. This fool walked up to me the other day, and was like blood, where did you get them at yo? What, you made them? I said, man we don't make nothin man! We don't make nothin man. We just make your girl give h%@d. When she sees these on sight. She never thought they come in size twelves man. I wear size twelves man!
That's all? They're doing good.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
He would lose his Bird rights in that trade. That ain't happening.
Even with a lot of teams having cap space in 2010, he would limit his opportunities.
ahhh
Norsky on the spot. That makes me feel a lot better about that pick going to utah…
RUDY > MJ
Thank you KP
What on earth
do the kings do with JT, Landry, and Lee, the latter two looking for big dollars this year and the next?
If Lee would sign an extension
You send JT back to NY
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 9:42 AM PST up reply actions
Can't see that happening
in the next 2 hours.
You don't have to have al the details done
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 10:01 AM PST up reply actions
O yeah
I like it. Lee has been a force most of the year, as long as you ignore one side of the court :P
I assume as an UFA, we would get David Lee’s Bird Rights? Make it happen, Geoff.
a little bummed..
Lee is an expiring contract, i would do with NY deal only if they threw in gallo/hill picks jeffries/hughes…
New update
T-Mac’s agent is going to be furious if Kings don’t trade him. He also represents Tyreke and a few other Kings.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
That's what we are going to do.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I assume that this is all an agent posturing
and will have no ramifications on the Kings
Of course not.
Being Tmac’s agent means nothing with regards to Tyreke Evans.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Who gives a shit what Tmac's agent wants?
Fuck Tmac and his agent.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Just getting the info out
Although I agree with you.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
And trying to use leverage by using other "clients" on the team is pretty stupid.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Woj just said that to stir the pot.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Screw him
Arm Tellem doesn’t rule the world. Kings have to act out of own self-interest before catering to the wishes of a broke down former superstar. At same time, we don’t have any intention of holding on to T-Mac, but it takes two to tango.
Arm Tellem
Is he any relation to Souljah Boy Tellem?
by TheFNG on Feb 18, 2010 10:01 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Nice reporting, TZ
Youare really bringing it on what must be a tough day for you.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 18, 2010 10:11 AM PST up reply actions
Who cares what McGrady thinks anyway?
Its not like you want him to play for you…
RUDY > MJ
Thank you KP
Also why would NY
trade Lee? I thought they’d previously told the Rockets that he wasn’t available…
I’d take Lee, or even Jordan Hill..at this point I’m just klinging to hope that some deal—ANY DEAL—gets done!
by Out of Service Pervis on Feb 18, 2010 9:35 AM PST reply actions
f*ck T-back...
The guy is making 23 million dollars this year…most likely will get bought out if he is not traded, let’s just hope he doesn’t sign with the lakers…
Let's just swing him to the Clips for Deandre Jordan and a pick.
They have the capspace to absorp too
PG might be right about making a splash in 2010
It appears that we are just going to clear space and see what the draft and FA brings us
Why can't they talk to Lee's reps in a few hours?
What? They don’t have cell service or are taking a really long lunch?
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
Why do we want an undersized stat stuffer that plays no D
some day we need to play D if we want to win
Couldn't we say the same thing about Landry?
Who happens to stuff one fewer stat than Lee?
yes but whay have two of them?
Except to OSP’s remark it might not be bad to have Lee and do a sign and trade, there is value in that
sign and trade
a possibility with all that cap room, or if Lee signs an extension today you send JT back
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 9:44 AM PST up reply actions
It's not just Landry for Martin
It’s Landry and whatever we can get with TMAC’s huge expiring k.
"If you told him to head-butt the wall, he would do it." -- Paul Westphal re: Brockness Monster.
by PhutureKings on Feb 18, 2010 9:48 AM PST up reply actions
How about buying out his lazy eye ass.
Why do people try to make a nickel out of a penhy?
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
penny^
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I agree
The buyout sounds like the best option. No way do I want Jeffries without giving up Beno or Noce.
We will still have NOC
so if we can exchange him for someone that might fit better we should, this still clears space for NYK
Ya
screw D.Lee or whatever is out there as it stands now we’d have 21mill in cap space…according to http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=15328
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Feb 18, 2010 9:51 AM PST up reply actions
you guys are in a good spot right now
You have a pretty highly enticing piece and dont have to trade it to benefit from it. GP can be picky, which is always a good thing…
RUDY > MJ
Thank you KP
I don't think GP has any interest in really trading Tmac.
I think he’s more interested in seeing if he can get something better than Tmac in the long run.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I have yet to hear an offer that makes sense to me, but I am an amateur
The Jeffries trade is hopefully a no go, I am not a fan of that for you guys…
RUDY > MJ
Thank you KP
This entire Lee thing puzzles me
Petrie and the Kings obviously are aware that Lee won’t give away his Bird rights, and would veto a trade. There’s no way they’d waste precious time pursing that angle. I can only imagine that this is another false rumor.
by sactown on Feb 18, 2010 9:42 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Carl if you write something about Kevin Martin i'm pretty positive it will end up on the front page.
Same thing happened with me.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
you guys are a good balance that way
:-)
What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.
But if this trade goes down
Maybe Lee thinks NY signs Bosh & L23/Wade/JJ anyway & just lets him go. It seems like Houston really likes Landry so maybe Houston takes Jeffries,keeps Landry, & GP convinces Lee that he has a permanent home here in Sac. No team went out on a limb to sign Lee last year what makes him think it will be any different? If he is really convinced Sac would sign him why wouldn’t he come?
I love beating dead horses.
Package him with Noce and Beno!
And we’ll send it all to Atlanta for a “real” point guard, Mike Bibby.
Dip til I rip
by Muff209 on Feb 18, 2010 9:49 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
I think they'd give up Bibby for Shelden Williams, Tyronn Lue, Anthony Johnson, and Lorenzen Wright!
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
by CaliforniaJag on Feb 18, 2010 4:01 PM PST up reply actions
the picks the knicks have to offer
seem like crap tho. And to me the pick(s) would be the primary piece(s). They have no 2010 first rounder, and they can’t give up their 2011 first rounder, so we’d have to go for the 2012 pick. And they’ll probably be good by then and we should have the rebuild pretty wrapped up by then.
Gallo is desiable, I suppose. And Hill has promise. But if we went for one or both of them, we still would have Tyreke and a bunch of middling starters/backups to show for the rebuild. Shit.
At this rate
I wouldn’t be surprised if Nate Robinson (remember prior Nate→Kings rumors?) ends up in these talks, regardless of the tentative agreement between NYK-Bos.
Sincerely
I’d be quite pissed off if we end up by giving TMac for Jeffries, Hill, Hughes and whatever…not only we’d give away this season’s biggest ec, but we should also take this year’s draft NY failure, some year’s ago NY signing failure and a crappy player making a fuckload of money, even if expiring?
"Even when I’m old and grey, I won’t be able to play it, but I’ll still love the game." — Michael Jordan
Go Kings!
I'm thinking it's a 3 team trade with us possibly shipping
TMac to NY, Nocioni to Bos and a series of expirings, young talent, picks comin our way…i dont know.
From Trey Kerby of the Blowtorch
There’s a seven-foot tall Romanian on Martha Stewart. Supposedly the Kings are interested.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
I think Martha Stewart would veto the trade
"If you told him to head-butt the wall, he would do it." -- Paul Westphal re: Brockness Monster.
by PhutureKings on Feb 18, 2010 9:51 AM PST up reply actions
Where the fuck did this come from!?!
"If you told him to head-butt the wall, he would do it." -- Paul Westphal re: Brockness Monster.
by PhutureKings on Feb 18, 2010 9:51 AM PST up reply actions
Nowhere
I just love the guy hahah
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Feb 18, 2010 9:52 AM PST up reply actions
From Wojnorowski
For the Kings to take Jared Jeffries, they’re also asking for David Lee and picks in N.Y., source says. Guess how that’s going over at MSG?
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Thata boy
Petrie squeeze out all that shit from them or do nothing
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Feb 18, 2010 9:53 AM PST up reply actions
Sounds like agent posturing.
Why do the Kings need Lee?
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
What the fuck do you need trade value with 20 million of potential cap space?
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I didn't mean that at you personally.
I’m tired.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
You are wise.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
You must be tired, if your going to be nice.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
It's not that.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Not Happening
I TOTALLY doubt that the Kings will get David Lee. To do so I bet we would have to trade Landry, Thompson or Hawes. i know the Knicks have made some DUMB trades before but that would be one of the biggest STEALS ever if the Kings can get David Lee for T-Mac.
It won’t happen.
Kings rule! (They are royalty - right?)
Enlighten me dalt as you have before.
How does David Lee make us better?
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Jon Brockman
with the ability to score 20+ points a night. Steady and extremely consistant. Also he’s only 26 years old and was born on my birthday.
Kings rule! (They are royalty - right?)
He would make you guys way better... this year
Not sure how much that matters though…
RUDY > MJ
Thank you KP
NY is trying to clear cap space
No way they would take Noc or Beno
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
Right.
This is very true.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
The Kings aren't dying to trade Beno cuz he fits in well as Tyreke's backup.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Not to mention we'd be down to 1 NaPG
unless you count Cisco , then we would have 2 NaPG
There are some guys smarter than me, some guys better looking, I take comfort in the fact that there is no guy that is both.
But that;s the whole reason they want TMac
If they aren’t getting cap space, they just wouldn’t do the deal. It makes zero sense at all.
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
T-Mac to the Lakers for Ron Artest FTW!
Of course, if this actually happened i’d be headed to the hospital with a broken hand.
Dip til I rip
by Muff209 on Feb 18, 2010 9:55 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Break your head while you're at it. Save you time and money Muff.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Hell
Jeffries is also injured. No to spend our money on that piece of crap
"Even when I’m old and grey, I won’t be able to play it, but I’ll still love the game." — Michael Jordan
Go Kings!
Does anyone want to stay put with t-mac and just let him expire?
by ucla06 on Feb 18, 2010 9:56 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Or buy him out. Yes absolutely.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
20 million of cap space + good draft pick + good young roster
Imagine the possibilities. Fuck David Lee. With all due respect to Lee of course. He is a good player.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Very good player.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
I'm not a fan of undersized bigs who can't block shots
brockman does what we would need lee to do right? Lee has some offense but w/ Landry and Brockman we have enough undersized guys.
Dorsey could end up being a better Brockman with minutes.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
I'd pay to watch Dorsey and Nessie go at it during practice.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
hahaha i forgot...
dorsey, brockman, landry….
we’re starting a collection…
No, Brockman does not do what Lee does.
Lee can score, too.
"If you told him to head-butt the wall, he would do it." -- Paul Westphal re: Brockness Monster.
by PhutureKings on Feb 18, 2010 10:00 AM PST up reply actions
sorry....
i mean more to say that Lee doesn’t bring as much of what we need. Brockman doesn’t compare to lee on offense…but landry does
Lee packages Landry and Brockman into one player though
Its a moot point though, Lee won’t sign off on the trade which makes it a no go…
RUDY > MJ
Thank you KP
You're exactly right
Just don’t do it. The Houston trade works partially because it’s addition by subtraction. Bringing in all those useless NY pieces would nullify that and bloat the roster.
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by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 18, 2010 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
Count me in.
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by Aykis16 on Feb 18, 2010 9:57 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
If we can't get
anything good in exchange (good assets, 2010 1st round picks) I’m all for staying with him and letting him expire
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Go Kings!
+1
If Petrie isn’t blown away he should just sit on his hands
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Feb 18, 2010 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
100% fine with this.
Even if we don’t sign a top flight free agent in the 2010 offseason. The less money we have on the books for the 2011 lockout the better.
Dip til I rip
by Muff209 on Feb 18, 2010 10:00 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
You aren't sizzling yet with all the trade possibilities are you Big Carl?
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Fuck
I’m so mad I can’t even use the site. Geoff Petrie has brain damage and has given it to me with his stupidity.
Oh yes.
The Monkey is officially in charge. God help us all!
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Whoa, buddy.
How do you figure? I liked K-Mart, don’t get me wrong, but obviously, he was not as valuable as we thought. Plus, he has missed at least 20 games each of the last 3 seasons. I like Landry and we can be major players in FA. Wait to judge this trade.
Also, I read reports that Martin was becoming annoyed here and wasn’t adapting well to Evans in the backcourt. We don’t know what was going on behind the scenes.
"If you told him to head-butt the wall, he would do it." -- Paul Westphal re: Brockness Monster.
by PhutureKings on Feb 18, 2010 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
You're telling Carl to think through things logically. Yeah, this should go over well.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
The personality stuff is valid
And has been hinted at and can be a valid reason for a trade. That being said, you just dumped one of the most valuable scorers in the league for a backup power forward who doesn’t rebound or play defense. Bad, bad trade.
It's half about the fact hat Landry is a godly finisher inside.
The other half is about cap space. I’m convinced they’re going to make a run at Bosh now.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Me too...
That’s why I’m not down on this trade. If we parlay K-Mart into Landry and Bosh…you will all explode from having to eat so many words. It’ll be like Kobiashi in a hot dog eating contest.
"If you told him to head-butt the wall, he would do it." -- Paul Westphal re: Brockness Monster.
by PhutureKings on Feb 18, 2010 10:07 AM PST up reply actions
or at Joe Johnson
I’d prefer Bosh, obviously, but watch out toward Atlanta too
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Go Kings!
by Panzerfaust on Feb 18, 2010 10:07 AM PST up reply actions
The guy is a leading contender for sixth man of the year.
We didn’t exactly get table scraps. He is good player and might very well open up a lot of offense. He’s no worse defensively than what we already have. With Greene, Evans and Casspi on the court, our D is getting better anyway.
"If you told him to head-butt the wall, he would do it." -- Paul Westphal re: Brockness Monster.
by PhutureKings on Feb 18, 2010 10:06 AM PST up reply actions
Honestly
We didn’t lose out too much on the talent side of this trade. Landry is a beast.
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I can't figure out how a guy whose so good at inside scoring can hit 85% from the line but not average that many boards.
Mind boggling some.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
According to Zach Harper
Its cause he plays aggressive defense and is often out of position on the boards because he’s trying to get blocks. We’ll soon learn ourselves though. He did play with some stellar rebounders in Hayes and Scola.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
My thought too.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Heh
We both mentioned Bosh at the same time. He signs, I change my mind. Kevin wins a scoring title and no Bosh, not gonna be happy.
Did you know that Speed was willing to be traded?
Also, Geoff Petrie hadn’t talked to him over the last month.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
How do you know
or why do you think Petrie hasn’t talked with Kevin lately?
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 18, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
I will retract my anger the day
Chris Bosh signs his contract. Or if it turns out Kevin was trying to get traded, which may have been the case. Jared Jeffries will only make the situation worse.
Agreed on Jeffries. I can be patient with other things.
And there are other problems here.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I wonder the reaction here
if only traded T-Mac for Jeffries
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Feb 18, 2010 10:07 AM PST up reply actions
That can't happen. It's impossible to pull off.
That’s my reaction.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Haha
Didn’t take that into consideration
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Feb 18, 2010 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
No Jefferies. GP is not that dumb.
Unless JJ also brings back something really good.
"If you told him to head-butt the wall, he would do it." -- Paul Westphal re: Brockness Monster.
by PhutureKings on Feb 18, 2010 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
exactly
Look how the Ron Artest trade turned out. We got Casspi and Greene. Is anyone complaining about that now? I don’t think so. Give this trade a year and see how it turns out.
Sometimes you just have to look yourself in the mirror and say....Tyreke Evans.
That just happened.
How about sending Tmac and Dorsey to the 76ers for Dalambert, Willie green and Kapono
Judgment day is coming!
How about HELL NO!?!
"If you told him to head-butt the wall, he would do it." -- Paul Westphal re: Brockness Monster.
by PhutureKings on Feb 18, 2010 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
why not we need a SG and we need a center.that means we got Landry, Dalembert and Green for K9 and expirings..pretty damg good deal
Judgment day is coming!
Did you forget that Martin is involved!?!
I’d rather have the cap space to get a stud than use it on Dalembert and Green
"If you told him to head-butt the wall, he would do it." -- Paul Westphal re: Brockness Monster.
by PhutureKings on Feb 18, 2010 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
We've definately decided to get younger
That leaves Dal out
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
I have the strong feeling
that Lee would not want to come here.
Sometimes you just have to look yourself in the mirror and say....Tyreke Evans.
That just happened.
You have to admit though
Kings are continuing with this “toughness” mantra. Landry and Dorsey are that. Martin wasn’t soft, but he wasn’t tough either. Not like these guys.
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Dorsey does.
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
by CaliforniaJag on Feb 18, 2010 4:07 PM PST up reply actions
Hey, this works on the trade machine!
Kings send to Philadelphia McGrady, Udoka, May for Iguodala and Dalembert!
"Even when I’m old and grey, I won’t be able to play it, but I’ll still love the game." — Michael Jordan
Go Kings!
I'm going to dock you Sims points if you ever mention that again.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Get a pick from Philly
then send Iggy to Phoenix for Amare, who will likely opt out
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I wish people would stop bring ing it up
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
I'll avoid to mention
the McGrady for LeBron trade then…
"Even when I’m old and grey, I won’t be able to play it, but I’ll still love the game." — Michael Jordan
Go Kings!
by Panzerfaust on Feb 18, 2010 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
That, I would do
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
Now the Cavs
have a legit superstar in Jamison, they don’t need that overrated guy to sell more shirts…let’s take him
"Even when I’m old and grey, I won’t be able to play it, but I’ll still love the game." — Michael Jordan
Go Kings!
by Panzerfaust on Feb 18, 2010 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
right!
(and he’s always making a mess at the powder table)
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 10:09 AM PST up reply actions
lol
I don’t know if he’s worth of giving away such a great player such as TMac…hell, McGrady scored something like 61 JUST 20 OR 30 YEARS AGO in Orlando
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Go Kings!
by Panzerfaust on Feb 18, 2010 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
Making a play for Iggy
makes more sense with Kevin vacating the ‘2’ spot. Worth a call.
Barring other dev, I envision Donte moving back to SG, with Landry immediately assuming starting spot at PF. I like it.
Is the Kmart deal a done deal?
To involve any other team, we’re at the mercy of Houston allowing it right? I’d be crazy to see houston somehow end up with another assest like hill or a pick from the knicks.
So Mad
I have a chemistry lab at 11 everything (or nothing) will happen in the last hour with my luck
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Feb 18, 2010 10:03 AM PST reply actions
Looks like Miami, Utah, and Wiz are in a 3 team deal
for Boozer. Beasley is not involved. Booz would head to Miami obviously.
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What are Wiz getting?
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'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
This has been one wicked ass trade deadline. All kinds of players moving everywhere.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Seriously
This one has lived up to the hype and possibly more with Kevin going out.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
If Boozer gets moved this will top 08 for fireworks. Crazy.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Woj just said that sources close to this trade don't see it as likely happening.
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Yeah supposedly it's more "cap relief" for Wash or some shit like that.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
No details yet
Just teams involved and Boozer.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
It's not likely taking on salary.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Are the Wiz
trying to unload every single player they had till yesterday and begin with a new bunch of crap? I’ll take away from them McGee with pleasure
"Even when I’m old and grey, I won’t be able to play it, but I’ll still love the game." — Michael Jordan
Go Kings!
by Panzerfaust on Feb 18, 2010 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
Where do people see Landry fitting in?
Will he come of the bench like he did in Houston? He’s a good player but I’m not sure if he’s starting material.
I think he starts here.
Once he learns the system.
"If you told him to head-butt the wall, he would do it." -- Paul Westphal re: Brockness Monster.
by PhutureKings on Feb 18, 2010 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
Same.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Not at all
But he’s been playing well off the bench. JT could be sixth man of the year potential next year
"If you told him to head-butt the wall, he would do it." -- Paul Westphal re: Brockness Monster.
by PhutureKings on Feb 18, 2010 10:11 AM PST up reply actions
While Landry is probably the front runner
Still, we don’t exactly have Scola, so Landry will start. Unless Westphal brings him off the bench to play 36 minutes anyway so he gets 6th man of year.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Landry seems to be perfect on the bench...
skill wise and attitude wise. It’s not easy to be successful while consistently coming off the bench. He put’s up good numbers in under 30 min. Hopefully if he starts he stays this efficient.
He works really well as a scoring punch off the bench in Houston
He is also their go to guy in the 4th, surprisingly enough…
RUDY > MJ
Thank you KP
I would start
Hawes JT Casspi Greene and Reke. Bring Udrih Landry Cisco off the Bench
There are some guys smarter than me, some guys better looking, I take comfort in the fact that there is no guy that is both.
Disagree
The K-Mart deal was predicated on how largely ineffective JT has been for weeks. Landry will take a ton of JTs minutes away. The fact that we want David Lee too amplifies how crummy Geoff Petrie assesses our front court to be.
wait, wait
a negative comment about JT, from you?
Who’d have guessed?
What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.
What system? Oh, you mean move away from the basket and watch Evans.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
I think they'll try to start him
over JT and see how it works…probably they’ll try a Reke/Dontè/Casspi/Landry/Hawes lineup and see how it works
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Go Kings!
by Panzerfaust on Feb 18, 2010 10:09 AM PST up reply actions
I am salivating if I am
A quick gaurd…we have nobody to defend a quick gaurd or protect the rim!! Just ask CJ Watson
I think Beno, Evans, Casspi, Landry/Greene, and Hawes
"If you told him to head-butt the wall, he would do it." -- Paul Westphal re: Brockness Monster.
by PhutureKings on Feb 18, 2010 10:11 AM PST up reply actions
This is so much fun!
I love today!
The Arn Tellem update is hilarious!
I was uncool before it was cool
Who does Arn think he is?
Or he does he think T-Mac is? This isn’t 2000. The Rockets thought T-Mac was essentially the 15th man on the team. It’s hilarious to see he is demanding things for his FORMER regular season star, non-playoff-winning client.
just an idea,
But wouldn’t Philly love to save money? McGrady for Iggy?
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by Ice_9ine on Feb 18, 2010 10:11 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Gee wiz
I wish someone had mentioned that earlier (sheesh)
:)
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
That would eliminate any capspace whatsoever for ya'll
Might be worth it though…
RUDY > MJ
Thank you KP
lol
read some post above this
"Even when I’m old and grey, I won’t be able to play it, but I’ll still love the game." — Michael Jordan
Go Kings!
by Panzerfaust on Feb 18, 2010 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
Where
are you guys getting this info about possible trades? just curious
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Feb 18, 2010 10:15 AM PST reply actions
The Kings need to waive T-Mac, let him sign in NY, and just get the cap relief
then promise Lebron part ownership of the Palms Casino!
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That might be your best idea yet V.
Are you sure you near the ’Mo?
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
So you just traded one white trash shithole for another. Good job V. We're so proud of you back home.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Haha
I only work here. To make it better, I’m from Mo’, work in Rancho, and live in Stockton
it’s a good thing my house is on wheels, eh?
www.mancancook.net
Only if you plan on living in Merced.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
One question
what are the rules to become sixth man of the year? If Landry ends up starting every game for us till the end of the season, does this preclude his nomination as the sixth man of the year?
"Even when I’m old and grey, I won’t be able to play it, but I’ll still love the game." — Michael Jordan
Go Kings!
Well this is just awesome
T-Mac to Knicks and we’re not getting Jeffries.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Details
Kings get Landry, Dorsey, Larry Hughes.
Rockets get Kevin Martin, Jared Jeffries, right to swap picks in 2011 and pick in 2012
Knicks get T-Mac and Sergio
I like this. We even get to keep K-9
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Dude
That is alot of cap space am i right?
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Feb 18, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
LINK!?!
"If you told him to head-butt the wall, he would do it." -- Paul Westphal re: Brockness Monster.
by PhutureKings on Feb 18, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
Question
Why aren’t we getting that 2012 pick?
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 18, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
we're not the Rockets
the Rockets are taking Jeffries
What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.
From Hollinger chat
ghisletta (Co)
Don’t the Kings make out like Bandits on this? The get a 22 mil expiring contract, get rid of Kevin’s plus some others and still get Landry?
John Hollinger (12:25 PM)
Like bandits is strong, but they’ll be pretty happy with what Landry gives them for $3 mil next year and they have enough room to sign a max free agent (they were getting pretty close already).
by WhentheKingswinyouwin! on Feb 18, 2010 10:17 AM PST reply actions
Woj is reporting that a trade is on
WojYahooNBA
The Kings have traded Tracy McGrady to the Knicks, sources tell Y! Sports.
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
I repeat
Kings get Landry, Dorsey, Larry Hughes.
Rockets get Kevin Martin, Jared Jeffries, right to swap picks in 2011 and pick in 2012
Knicks get T-Mac and Sergio
I like this. We even get to keep K-9
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
I'm laughing a lot
thinking of all the people who cheered yesterday saying “at least we got rid of K9”
"Even when I’m old and grey, I won’t be able to play it, but I’ll still love the game." — Michael Jordan
Go Kings!
by Panzerfaust on Feb 18, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
wait... so we traded kevin martin for cap space, landry, and dorsey?
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
That's what we did yesterday
Landry isn’t a slouch. You’ll see.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
yes...13 million expiring
if I remember well
"Even when I’m old and grey, I won’t be able to play it, but I’ll still love the game." — Michael Jordan
Go Kings!
by Panzerfaust on Feb 18, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
Please don't let hughes suit up for the kings.
Do we trade k-9 or stand pat?
Hope
by Ultrakingsfan on Feb 18, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
So we buy out Larry Hughes.
Beautiful.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Yeah I don't get why we didn't get a pick.
Hope
by Ultrakingsfan on Feb 18, 2010 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
Because we aren't taking Jared Jeffries. It's not like the Rox had cap space to speak off last year.
This is a great deal for the Rox.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Because we're not the ones who got Jeffries
I can live with that.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
I wonder if the Kings are still getting cash.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
We'll see
I think we might be.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
There's also the added bonus of the Kings having cap room to play around with around draft time too. This will lower the committed salary.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
This is a good point
Maybe we will be able to pick up someone really good for defense at draft time.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
It's not sexy
But it is pretty good we have money and we got some new laundry (my attempt at a joke)
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Feb 18, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
"Hey, it's the rapping man...come to do his Landry!"
MEGA bonus points if anyone gets this reference.
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
by CaliforniaJag on Feb 18, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions
Wow.
NOW Houston can commence being pissed off. And we still have an hour and a half to unload a Kenny Thomas and Noce package!
Dip til I rip
by Muff209 on Feb 18, 2010 10:25 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
That would be rad!
"If you told him to head-butt the wall, he would do it." -- Paul Westphal re: Brockness Monster.
by PhutureKings on Feb 18, 2010 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
Er, actually no...
I want the ability to sign a max free agent (Bosh)
So, it would have to be a really good deal.
"If you told him to head-butt the wall, he would do it." -- Paul Westphal re: Brockness Monster.
by PhutureKings on Feb 18, 2010 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
So salary wise
I am assuming Hughes + K9 = McGrady more or less?
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 18, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
McGrady made slightly more
but factor in Hilton Armstrong whos staying too and its even.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
So, Kevin Martin for Carl Landry, no draft picks.
Talentwise, this sucks. This all hinges on whether the Kings can sign a free agent. Also, no Larry Hughes please.
The Kevin Martin that was playing here
was not himself. Probably never was going to be with Tyreke and this young guy. I think a lot more details are gonna come out that Kevin was done in Sacramento. Peaches was only the beginning.
Landry is a beast. One of the most efficient players in the league. He probably was Houston’s best player. Also he scores a big chunk of his points in the 4th quarter when its needed most.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
by Aykis16 on Feb 18, 2010 10:37 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
True dat.
We have very similar takes on this.
"If you told him to head-butt the wall, he would do it." -- Paul Westphal re: Brockness Monster.
by PhutureKings on Feb 18, 2010 10:46 AM PST up reply actions
Same
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Feb 18, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
Exactly brotha.
Thats the most important factor to consider.
Sometimes you just have to look yourself in the mirror and say....Tyreke Evans.
That just happened.
I think you are probably right about this.
That the Kevin Martin that was playing here was not himself was becoming more and more apparent with time. There probably was a lot more that was going on behind the scenes. The fact that Kevin didn’t go into the Celtic’s game in the 4th quarter was probably more of a sign that there were problems brewing.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
I love this place.
Aykis has the original piece, and TZ/G are updating off it.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
This shit makes no sense we trade T-Mac to the knicks and all we get is larry bitch ass hughes? No picks no nothing dumb ass trade for Kevin Martin the Rockets raped everyone
by dj3ptspecialist44 on Feb 18, 2010 10:22 AM PST reply actions
You're an idiot.
The point is we traded expiring for expiring. Nothing changed from yesterday except now we don’t have the headache of T-Mac.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
no... yesterday everyone thought we were getting something from teh knicks. some sort of asset. we got nothing from them.
we traded kmart for an expiring and landry. no picks. no second player who is worth anything…
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
Right
why bother to move T-Mac? We should have gotten something.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
It's the same fucking deal, people.
SAME DEAL. Just change the name TMAC to K-9, Armstrong and Hughes.
"If you told him to head-butt the wall, he would do it." -- Paul Westphal re: Brockness Monster.
by PhutureKings on Feb 18, 2010 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
Other than Gallo
the Knicks do not own any assets
"Even when I’m old and grey, I won’t be able to play it, but I’ll still love the game." — Michael Jordan
Go Kings!
by Panzerfaust on Feb 18, 2010 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
Yes, from 2012...
"Even when I’m old and grey, I won’t be able to play it, but I’ll still love the game." — Michael Jordan
Go Kings!
by Panzerfaust on Feb 18, 2010 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
What if NYC gets two superstars this summer?
They might not, but whatevs.
"If you told him to head-butt the wall, he would do it." -- Paul Westphal re: Brockness Monster.
by PhutureKings on Feb 18, 2010 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
And Gallo isn't much of an asset to the Kings. Sorry Panz.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
True
but he’s a good player and will improve over the years…we should have traded him to teams who’d have traded a lot for him…he could fit well in Atlanta or Miami, for example
"Even when I’m old and grey, I won’t be able to play it, but I’ll still love the game." — Michael Jordan
Go Kings!
by Panzerfaust on Feb 18, 2010 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
Now we have the 4th most cap space for 2010 in the league
That’s an asset in and of itself.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
You guys wanted Bosh?
Well this is our best chance.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Exactly
And it’s not gonna be that hard of a sell.
We got a great young core, a lottery pick, and Palms VIP passes.
Next year’s team could be Evans, Greene, Casspi, JT, Hawes, Landry, Garcia and another excellent draft pick. Add Bosh to the equation and we’re a really good team. The players will see that.
"If you told him to head-butt the wall, he would do it." -- Paul Westphal re: Brockness Monster.
by PhutureKings on Feb 18, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
we don't give away K9
so we basically end up with the same amount of expiring dollars (13.5+8) than with TMac
"Even when I’m old and grey, I won’t be able to play it, but I’ll still love the game." — Michael Jordan
Go Kings!
by Panzerfaust on Feb 18, 2010 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
Maybe
K9 is moving somewhere else there is still 1.5 hours..?
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Feb 18, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
If the Kings have cap room okay.
They can pull off small deals and make cash that way.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
disappointing
no picks no Jordan Hill…wow….should of just kept Tmac
Why? What's the difference?
"If you told him to head-butt the wall, he would do it." -- Paul Westphal re: Brockness Monster.
by PhutureKings on Feb 18, 2010 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
At least this way we didn't piss off Evans' agent. He owes us one now.
"If you told him to head-butt the wall, he would do it." -- Paul Westphal re: Brockness Monster.
by PhutureKings on Feb 18, 2010 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
so we will have 25 million in expiring contracts...
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
Didn't the Rockets get enough?
Shouldn’t we be getting the option to swap picks?
That was my point, but I was just called an idiot for us getting taken for K-Mart. We had the bargaining chip how the hell did the Rockets get even more picks and more pieces and all we have to show for it is Larry Hughes no picks nothing?
by dj3ptspecialist44 on Feb 18, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
The Rockets took Jefferies.
"If you told him to head-butt the wall, he would do it." -- Paul Westphal re: Brockness Monster.
by PhutureKings on Feb 18, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
The Rox took on a shit-ton of long-term money (Martin and Jefferies)
we took on pretty much no long-term money (3 mil to Landry next year, a bargain for his production). I’m happy.
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Feb 18, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
Wow we gave up a lot for Lent this year...
by mbcarval on Feb 18, 2010 10:23 AM PST reply actions 4 recs
How do we get a guy to come to sacto?
Hope
by Ultrakingsfan on Feb 18, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
Very Carefully.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
20+million+Tyreke+Lottery pick
"If you told him to head-butt the wall, he would do it." -- Paul Westphal re: Brockness Monster.
by PhutureKings on Feb 18, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
and the weather here is awesome, except for the three months during the offseason
when Bosh can go live in Miami or wherever the hell he wants during the summer with all his millions. Plus, how many cities have a Hall of Fame NBA player as their mayor? Suck on that, New York!
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Feb 18, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
Psst...
Not a Hall of Famer…
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
I have a feeling that lotto pick might be used in a sign and trade
but that’s fine with me
www.mancancook.net
If it's Bosh,
I agree.
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
by CaliforniaJag on Feb 18, 2010 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
Easily
We have the space to offer a max deal, plus the talent to lure a top player. Plus, we have the advantage of the upcoming CBA where salaries will drop quite a bit.
www.mancancook.net
I think we'll use them
to resign Beno to a maximum contract
"Even when I’m old and grey, I won’t be able to play it, but I’ll still love the game." — Michael Jordan
Go Kings!
by Panzerfaust on Feb 18, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
So
I’m of the opinion we never let Larry Hughes wear a Kings uniform. Other than that I am officially for this trade as is. Landry is a beast who we’ll grow to love. I love Kevin, but things weren’t working out here and he wasn’t playing to his capabilities.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
by Aykis16 on Feb 18, 2010 10:24 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Agree
"If you told him to head-butt the wall, he would do it." -- Paul Westphal re: Brockness Monster.
by PhutureKings on Feb 18, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
Yep
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Feb 18, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
This isn't bad, if...
We still have KTEC, which helps after the season.
We don’t need any more fucking draft picks, even with Petrie choosing. We’re young enough. We’re top 6 next year, and if we aren’t improving after that, forget it.
If we can’t land a FA big, or draft a player who becomes one or can be flipped for one, then I’m going to be kind of disappointed.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Feb 18, 2010 10:24 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I definitely think the Kings are going to try for a big FA now
Obvious target is Bosh.
Although I have the nastiest feeling we might settle for Amar’e.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
or Joe Johnson.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Or Rudy Gay
Jerry Reynolds gets a boner every time we play Memphis. That’s pretty Gay.
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
by CaliforniaJag on Feb 18, 2010 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
Amare is not worth a max deal...
not to us. we have laundry who is amare light.
Hope
by Ultrakingsfan on Feb 18, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
Bosh ideally.
But if you can convince Stoud to sign here long-term, it could mean he actually wants to make a go of it here. That could (COULD) be great.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
Wtf are you smoking Sims?
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Yeah I'm with you brother Aykis. I can't do Amare. Not after seeing Speed depart.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I'm saying if he gets his mind right, a la Strother Martin.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
I'll bring the eggs
they may be more for throwing than eating though
by betweentheeyes on Feb 18, 2010 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
I love how everyone loves the Knicks deal
except its no different than K-Mart for T-Mac, excpet the Rox get picks. We still get Landry and a ton of space
www.mancancook.net
I like it
Because it removes the potential for a headache with T-Mac and we don’t have to take Jeffries back.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
And we keep K-9!!!!
YAY!!!!
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Rockets traded Tmac for Martin and a 2012 pick?
I hope the Knicks get their act together by then or Houston will make out big with this trade.
and if the Knicks blow next year too
Their pick will be given to Houston in the lotto too (although it might be protected).
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
I think Houston
Did very well in this trade. I bet Kevin will fit in very well there, and Adelman will showcase him extremely well.
by MichaelMack on Feb 18, 2010 10:36 AM PST up reply actions
I think the Kings did alright in getting Landry too
and all that cap space.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Cheap now
If he puts up 20/6 next year, we’d have to pay him $10m/season to keep him. Still a bargain?
Actually
His contract comes up for extension after the new CBA. So it could be significantly cheaper.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
NEW CBA
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
that's a Pretty Good trade right there
Landry and Dorsey aren’t really anything to sneeze at. we get a ton of space to make a run at someone this offseason, and if we don’t get Bosh or whomever we can sit on that cap space til 2011.
CAN KEVIN MARTIN CO-EXIST WITH JARED JEFFRIES?
Chime in anytime, Grant.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
Never
This guy is anti-soft. Grant will probably have pictures of Landry on his wall.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Landry is tough, so my thought is
Grant was the one who pulled the trigger. Apparently he’s the mastermind behind all this. Petrie is just a puppet.
Man, you guys wasted a lot of time with those phone calls and emails to get rid of him. You all just put targets on your head. You’re on Grant’s list now.
Bé foréwarnéd: I am a mémbér of StR Groupthink méntality.
by CAB on Feb 18, 2010 10:30 AM PST up reply actions 5 recs
Yeah! He even bumped Pookey off the radio last night...
THAT is power!
"When the going gets Weird, the Weird turn professional."
(Hunter Thompson)
Convo with Geoff went something like this:
GP: Hey Grant, we’re trading Martin. Who do you want that’s not soft?
Peaches: Hmmm… didn’t some guy get shot last year and he’s still playing? And then he tried to bite Nowitzki’s arm off or something? Get that guy. He’s not soft.
GP: Landry? Okay, you’re the boss.
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Feb 18, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Extended Convo
Peaches to GP: “Now go get me a Peaches Mocha frappuccino!”
Bé foréwarnéd: I am a mémbér of StR Groupthink méntality.
Everybody, let's welcome our new sister site to StR
http://heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com/
www.mancancook.net
http://heylarryhughesacceptthisbuyout.com
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
oh snap
You guys kept kenny thomas, I am dumb. That could be pretty sweet if there is another deal to be swung…
RUDY > MJ
Thank you KP
Do you think we broke up
T-Mac’s large expiring into two smaller expirings (Hughes, K-9) to make a run at another player in the next 1.5 hours?
got screwed
No we just get screwed like always.
by dj3ptspecialist44 on Feb 18, 2010 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
How did we get screwed exactly?
I’m not a fan of seeing K-Mart go, but we were hardly screwed on this one. We traded Martin the Guard for Martin the Forward (in terms of scoring efficiency) and the ability to make a run at a max free agent. We have some nice young pieces with the chance to improve further in the draft this year – it’s a real possibility.
A lonely Kings fan in a sea of gold and purple...
murphy is still out there
and aparently Heat and Utah are lookig for a third team….
Phil Jackson, after treatment for a kidney stone "When the anesthesiologist leaned over me, he said "We named your kidney stone Kobe because it's not passing."
Hell NO!
Keep the cap space. Fuck Murphy
"If you told him to head-butt the wall, he would do it." -- Paul Westphal re: Brockness Monster.
by PhutureKings on Feb 18, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
Maybe
They could’ve waited an hour to pull the Knicks Houston trade unless maybe they wanted to do something else..maybe..maybe
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Feb 18, 2010 10:30 AM PST up reply actions
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES
Odd to see a trade where all three fanbases seem to be happy. I know I am.
Minnesotan Rockets fan
Can one of you salary cap gurus
Explain to me why the McGrady trade was more beneficial to us than just letting him expire/buying him out?
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
Basically
We are just avoiding an Arn Tellem temper tantrum…?
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
Maybe the Knicks are sending us cash?
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Feb 18, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
I think it's kind of a wash.
That being the case, why not do a solid for another GM out of our conference and an agent who represents other players of ours? Doesn’t hurt, and it could wind up generating some goodwill in future deals.
/shrug
A lonely Kings fan in a sea of gold and purple...
Do the math.
We just turned Kevin Martin and Sergio Rodriguez into 1 year of Carl Landry, Joey Dorsey, and a Larry Hughes buyout.
Landry has a team option worth 3 mil
no way the Kings don’t pick the option
"Even when I’m old and grey, I won’t be able to play it, but I’ll still love the game." — Michael Jordan
Go Kings!
by Panzerfaust on Feb 18, 2010 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
Got no value nothing
We got nothing for K-Mart period. I don’t care if people are happy about Landry he’s a bench player not a superstar not a fringe star just a solid bench player. K-Mart is worth more than this shit we got. No picks no players that will be a part of our core…. terrible trade
by dj3ptspecialist44 on Feb 18, 2010 10:33 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
You're overrating Kevin
and underrating Landry.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
by Aykis16 on Feb 18, 2010 10:34 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Ha
I love Kevin. But he wasn’t working here. Not to his best abilities.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
by Aykis16 on Feb 18, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Jared Jeffries.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Aykis, you have stuff to do
you have to find Landry a nickname!
"Even when I’m old and grey, I won’t be able to play it, but I’ll still love the game." — Michael Jordan
Go Kings!
Mandry.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Houston fans
call him that right? or should I say “called him that”
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Feb 18, 2010 10:33 AM PST up reply actions
Yep.
I suspect we’ll find our own nickname, but I think Mandry works.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
something to do
with us getting ganked in all this
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
I am a big fan of Landry too.
The Rockets are the only other team I TiVo besides the Kings, and getting Kevin is a sweet deal for them. That being said, Landry is a superb sixth man, but I worry he would be an average starter.
by MichaelMack on Feb 18, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
Easy G-Tunes installment
To the tune of Barry Manilow’s “Mandy”!
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
Damn, you're older than I realized!
"If you told him to head-butt the wall, he would do it." -- Paul Westphal re: Brockness Monster.
by PhutureKings on Feb 18, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
From Twitter
Looks like Rockets got Hill as well.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Boo.
Sound the trumpets, Raise the drawbridge, and drop the Oldsmobile
by Balky Needs on Feb 18, 2010 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
And the Rockets got under the tax?
Jeesh Morey is good.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Even Jeffries is a decent help to them
He might be overpaid, but he knows how to play defense.
by MichaelMack on Feb 18, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
Rockets made out
I think we got screwed
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 10:32 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Wait till you see Landry play
and see what we do with all this space.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
I'm a Purdue Alum
I like landry, I don’t see how we got enough in all this. We sure made Houston a power for us to deal with for years though . . . .
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
We do seem to get along well with Houston
For whatever that’s worth.
The man known simply as "Christmas Cheesesteak"
by Neil Manich on Feb 18, 2010 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
yep
They love us now for sure
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
The only thing that scares me
Is this sounds a lot like “Kenny Thomas is almost as good as Webber right now, plus moving these pieces separately will be much easier than one large contract.”
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
Except Landry is younger than Martin (not by much)
And we just lost all but $3 mill of Martin’s salary. Not really a comparison.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
And there's no "separate pieces" that need to be moved
Just cap space and a good, cheap player that’s not locked-in long-term
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Feb 18, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
Hill isn't good
22 year olds projects don’t pan out people.
Hope
by Ultrakingsfan on Feb 18, 2010 10:33 AM PST up reply actions
Oh yes Jordan Hill is so routintely awesome. The Knicks, starving for size. give up players who are big and that good just for cap space.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I did not say he is good
Just not a project, he was not assumed to be a project. I think there isa difference. I think he can be serviceable on the right team. I bet he will do ok in houston as they are not a run and gun team.
If he's not a project and he's not good
Why would anyone want him?
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
I would have taken him in a trade
I think he has a shot at being servicable to good. Houston has a way of getting good production out of guys like Hill, i think he would have been decent here.
He's certainly a project
I was UofA same time as Hill. I like him and think he’ll be better than the Mikki Moore predictions he’s routinely assesed. But, he is very raw. Didn’t start playing hoops until high junior year of high school.
"If you told him to head-butt the wall, he would do it." -- Paul Westphal re: Brockness Monster.
by PhutureKings on Feb 18, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
If he's not a project,
then he’s a flat out dud. I wouldn’t take him if I had to pay (Jeffries)
You mean like JT?
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 10:33 AM PST up reply actions
You wish Jordan Hill was that good.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
the most Hill could ever be
is the JT of the last two months
by MichaelMack on Feb 18, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
JT was a rook last year and played much better
"If you told him to head-butt the wall, he would do it." -- Paul Westphal re: Brockness Monster.
by PhutureKings on Feb 18, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
This is bogus....they lost landry and get hill to fill his spot?
How is Tmac’s expiring this valuable. Jeffries contract is not this bad.
Let them have Hill.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
by pookeyguru on Feb 18, 2010 10:33 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Hill is less than a role player now
and I don’t think he’ll end up being a good player anytime soon
"Even when I’m old and grey, I won’t be able to play it, but I’ll still love the game." — Michael Jordan
Go Kings!
by Panzerfaust on Feb 18, 2010 10:34 AM PST up reply actions
New York is going all out to get cap space. Should be interesting to see how they manage it.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Funny thing is that
with Jamison, Williams, Hickson the Cavs are still far more attractive for LeBron, and the Knicks could end up by giving Rudy Gay max dollars
"Even when I’m old and grey, I won’t be able to play it, but I’ll still love the game." — Michael Jordan
Go Kings!
by Panzerfaust on Feb 18, 2010 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
at least give us the freaking pick!
Don’t sign off on this!
lets take advantage of the GSW garage sale...
thomas, hughes, armstrong for biedrins, randolph, and maggette…
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
what are you talking about...
pg: reke, beno
sg: maggette, greene
sf: garcia, nocioni, casspi
pf: landry, thompson, randolph, brock
c: spence, biedrins, may
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
yeah, why would you want a 20 ppg scorer that appears to be able to flourish in the 0-guard offfense?
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
Because he gets paid like a top 20 talent
And he is nowhere near that good.
The man known simply as "Christmas Cheesesteak"
by Neil Manich on Feb 18, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
he would walk in and start and i would take him if it meant getting biedrins and randolph
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
appropriately paid, underrated
He is one of the most efficient scorers in the league right now, like probably top 5. He draws tons of freethrows, and shoots over 50% from the field. He isnt a good 3 point shooter, but he does rebound very well for a 2/3. His problem is he tends to have a bad attitude, and mostly sucks at defense. As a scorer though, he is tops in the league. Not saying you should trade for him, but he is absolutely underappreciated as a scorer. Comparing him to Monta Ellis, he scores more points per 36 minutes and is 50 times as efficient. He is a better player in my opinion and isnt even close.
RUDY > MJ
Thank you KP
Compare him to Carl Landry
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
by CaliforniaJag on Feb 18, 2010 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
Reply fail
Compare him to Carl Landry…they’re very similar in terms of efficiency and FTs. I’m not anti-Maggette the player, but I AM anti-Maggette the contract. HELL no.
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
by CaliforniaJag on Feb 18, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions
Petrie presser should be intense...
Sound the trumpets, Raise the drawbridge, and drop the Oldsmobile
Before I say I'm happy or not with this
I want to see what we do with the cap space. If we sit on it, I’ll be pissed. If we make a move for talent, then this trade will be a great move.
The man known simply as "Christmas Cheesesteak"
by Neil Manich on Feb 18, 2010 10:36 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Yep
I am getting tired of auditioning scrubs like Armstrong, Sheldon Williams… Landry I am fine with…
by OrangeLazarus on Feb 18, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
sorry we don't need more 2011 and 2012 picks.
Hope
by Ultrakingsfan on Feb 18, 2010 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
Tell it to Portland and Okl
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
They were the only ones willing to take Jeffires....
… so they were rewarded.
by henryclemente on Feb 18, 2010 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
If the Kings
can get Bosh during the summer ….. today will be a great day.
if no really really good FA comes here …. not a good day.
Why would he have to be mental?
Evans, Casspi, another top 6 pick in this years draft, and a huge contract before the lockout.
Well...
He would be signing to a team with no arena or plan to build one, owners who are hemorrhaging money, bad attendance… all while the Knicks, Bulls, Miami and others have max contract room. Why, in the world, would any superstar sign in Sacramento?
Evans is good, Casspi is good, picks are good… but nobody is coming to a small market with all these problems piling up.
+1
Yeah Bosh ain’t happening… They only quality players this team are going to come with real or perceived “issues” like Webber and Artest…
by OrangeLazarus on Feb 18, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
Doesn't the sheer gravitational force
from having two black holes on the team pretty much force Bosh to come here.
I just dont get it,
We made the trade with houston. We had McGrady and then we decide to make it a three way and get nothing in return for his expiring contract? It doesnt make sense.
Everything was beautiful and nothing hurt -Vonnegut
Geoff Petrie can draft, but most of his trades suck to high heaven except the trade for Artest. We Got Casspi and Donte
by dj3ptspecialist44 on Feb 18, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
Webb for Mitch wasnt bad
nor was Bibby for Williams.
Everything was beautiful and nothing hurt -Vonnegut
Bonzi Wells for Bobby Jackson and Greg Ostertag
Corliss for Doug Christie
etc.
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
by CaliforniaJag on Feb 18, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions
Hmm...
perhaps that’s why there should not be so much knee-jerk reaction to trades!?!
"If you told him to head-butt the wall, he would do it." -- Paul Westphal re: Brockness Monster.
by PhutureKings on Feb 18, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
Not to all of us
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
I think he broke up T-Mac's large expiring
to possibly use K9, Hilton, or Hughes for a lesser player today.
The Kings wanted to deal TMac to avoid the headache of dealing with him and Arn Tellem.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Not a victory if
we don’t sign a stud FA. Then we effectively have lost out on a #1 pick that would’ve been ours but for the desire to preserve cap space and thus not take on Jefferies.
And what if NY signs a superstar and has the best record in the league next year?
And that pick is 30?
If, If, If.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Don't see them signing a truly impactful FA
Lebron stays. Wade and Bosh are more likely to end up in Chi and LA, considering the state of those two rosters (e.g. talented) versus the empty shell of a team that is the NYK. This means NYK will be fighting for guys like Amare, Johnson, Boozer, Ginobli etc.
It's the ABILITY to swap picks,
not a concrete pick swap. If the Knicks’ pick was lower both teams would keep their picks.
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
by CaliforniaJag on Feb 18, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
You mean
cutting T-Mac and never seeing him again? What’s so hard about that?
You can do the same with the Hughes.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I agree with sactown
why do this for NY for nothing? We could just have left him whereever he was and/or negotiated a lower buyout
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
GP had his reasons. Frankly, the Knicks paid the Rockets 9.5 million next year for 2 draft picks.
How good of a value is that?
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I think you've switched around the Knicks and Rockets there.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Yes sorry.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
But how is it we took on 5 million of extra salary in this deal?
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I think there's a missing part of this deal somewhere.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Yeah must be
Doesn’t work on the trade machine.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
The Kings don't have that much cap room to absorb this deal
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Looks like Armstrong to New York too.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
That works.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Yeah that makes sense.
Even though Amick just said that wasn’t the case. Folks are scrambling on this.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Stein reporting
Armstrong to Houston.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Amick clearly has
NO Access
What up? Did he mess something up last year?
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
No
I think this came last minute for the Kings and Petrie is always really secretive.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
But he's not even in the loop Today
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
No
He’s just not updating as fast as the guys over at ESPN, who might be closer to guys on the Rockets/Knicks end.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
That's good
Hardly even knew he was here. We won’t miss him.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
For a minute there I thought I wrote "you can better". Whew.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
we ended up having
22 million of free money next year with McGrady’s contract now to have 13million off from Larry Hughes contract
by The Guy on the Couch on Feb 18, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
You people are overthinking this.
It doesn’t matter how big Tmac’s contract it was. It matters how much committed salary the Kings have. That hasn’t changed.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
So why do it?
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
To not have the headache of McGrady
Plus Tyreke’s agent is happy. Screw him, but he sees the Kings do something good for his client.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
and that will help when he demands the Max anyway?
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
Make negotiating easier is the theory.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Does Tellem represent Bosh, by chance?
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Feb 18, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
who knows.
the real story is if he represents the next tier of free agents who may not get max money (ggay, boozer, stoudemire, etc) by NY being players now, that drives up the value of the non max guys.
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
It hasn't changed
But with T-Mac’s huge expiring, if you wanted to deal for another player today, you would have to take another contract. Now you have smaller expirings with a chance to do a one player for one player trade.
You people?
What do you mean you people!?
I kid, I kid.
Dip til I rip
by Muff209 on Feb 18, 2010 10:49 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
So what did the rockets get for landry and tmac?
Just kmart and Hill or picks too?
switch of first round picks this year
and first next year
Everything was beautiful and nothing hurt -Vonnegut
Are IOU's parts of trades?
Cuz i think Houston owes the Kings one
Why is everyone so high on Landry
He’s just going to clog the lane for Reke. Petrie fails o every trade he makes, and teases us with his draft. FIRE HIS ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!
KINGS WILL BE 09-10 CHAMPIONS
And stupid
"If you told him to head-butt the wall, he would do it." -- Paul Westphal re: Brockness Monster.
by PhutureKings on Feb 18, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
All players
Clog the lane for Tyreke. Give the guy a shot…
by OrangeLazarus on Feb 18, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
Doesn't clog the lane for brooks.
Hope
by Ultrakingsfan on Feb 18, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
Because....
… we have zero reliable inside scorers. And now we have a reliable inside scorer.
And he hustles like mad.
by henryclemente on Feb 18, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
Every trade he makes?
Really? Like the Frank Brickowski for Sarunas Marciulonis trade? Or the Chris Webber for Mitch Richmond/Otis Thorpe trade? Or the Corliss Williamson for Doug Christie trade?
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
You said every trade he makes.
You didn’t mention recent trades.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Bonzi Wells for Bobby Jackson and Ostertag
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
by CaliforniaJag on Feb 18, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
Or Williams for Bibby
Or Artest for Greene and Casspi
The man known simply as "Christmas Cheesesteak"
by Neil Manich on Feb 18, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
Bibby was a nobody
The failure was not trading him earlier.
truth
Beno is a much better player right now
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
C'mon, Haze... get some perspective
the Kings made about three legit runs at the NBA title with Bibby at the point. Petrie totally stole him in that deal for J Will.
Like Sactown says below, the only shame is that they didn’t trade Mike sooner.
Petrie has made some of the most effective deals in NBA history, and that’s a fact.
"When the going gets Weird, the Weird turn professional."
(Hunter Thompson)
by Mucho Moss on Feb 18, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
i dont like this trade but i still like petrie,
calm yourselt
Everything was beautiful and nothing hurt -Vonnegut
I have no intention of listening to you at all.
The man known simply as "Christmas Cheesesteak"
by Neil Manich on Feb 18, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
Heh
You need to watch Landry play.
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
The protections on the picks going to Houston
The 2011 is top 1 protected, and 2012 is top 5 protected.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
for real that is it?
Houston killed.
Hope
by Ultrakingsfan on Feb 18, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
Houston also cleared something like 9 million in cap room for New York.
That’s why they get all that.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I wonder if Donnie Walsh ever wanted to give up his picks.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Yes.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Whcih means I gotta update my shit again.
Fuck.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
SInce I don't see us signing a big FA
I hope we use KT, Noce and Armstrong today for something good…wish I knew what that was.
I think...
… New York is the team that really got screwed here. They have now put all their eggs into being able to sign multiple stars this summer.
people were only ok with it because they thought the kings would something back from teh knicks (draft picks, hill, etc...)
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
Right
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
Another asset
and it didn’t happen
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
I'm talking about the deal last night
Between the Rockets and Kings. The Knicks part of it was all speculation until now.
yeah but people all assumed there was more coming to theKINGS, not the rockets... this is a bad trade for the kings as far as im concerned. they gave away martin without off loading an albatross...
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
It's basically the sames as
holding onto T-Mac. I wouldn’t want Jeffries as was proposed without getting rid of Noce.
No one got screwed here.
Houston came out as the biggest victor though.
New York is the only one who can get screwed
If they don’t land a marquee free agent. Otherwise they lose Jeffries and get a point guard who should excel in D’Antoni’s system. If Sergio can’t play for D’Antoni, he wasn’t gonna amount to much anyway.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
They got what they wanted
Cap space. The FA signings might not work out, but this trade got them what they needed.
Yeah but they don't...
… realize that all that space is a disaster waiting to happen. When most FAs decide to stay with their teams this summer. There will be blood in the streets of new york.
by henryclemente on Feb 18, 2010 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
even if all they get is joe johnson and chris bosh... it still could be considered worth it i think.
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
Possibly but,,,
They already suck and have sucked forever so what is the difference. Also, it is NYC so maybe they will be able to pull a Celtics next year and line up a few good players. They have a better chance at that than the Kings do…
by OrangeLazarus on Feb 18, 2010 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah,
Ask Portland what its like to have a bunch of usable space, with no real plan.
The man known simply as "Christmas Cheesesteak"
by Neil Manich on Feb 18, 2010 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
We actually only had about 10 million
and the free agent class was pretty garbage. Blazer fans are mostly happy ending up with Andre Miller. I know I am…
RUDY > MJ
Thank you KP
I thought there was a big group of fans
That never thought he could play with Roy, and still think that. Either way it turned out ok, but you guys were getting kind of desperate by the end.
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by Neil Manich on Feb 18, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
Noc, K9, Beno, May, HA...................Still Here
And we lose Kmart………..
Was Landry really worth it?…..How can anyone say yes?
We didn’t even get a pick!!!!!!!!!
KINGS WILL BE 09-10 CHAMPIONS
I dont think
you can really judge this trade until next season, see who the kings and knicks sign as FAs
No you don't
You’re just pissed.
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by Neil Manich on Feb 18, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
i will lay odds to anyone on the board that the kings dont sign anyone of significance with their newfound cap space...
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
I hate to say this but...
I agree with you. Maybe we are going into Donald Sterling mode?
by OrangeLazarus on Feb 18, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
No
The Kings at least got talent back.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
what odds?
I bet they sign someone like a Joe Johnson. Might not be a huge superstar, but someone will come here once Petrie shows them the dollar amount. Money talks.
joe johnson isnt signing with the kings... ill pay someone 10-1 if the kings sign a max guy
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
Its an easy gamble for the Maloofs.
Sure, nobody of value is coming to the Kings in FA. Too many teams with arenas built and ownership that isn’t losing money have cap space. But even if they don’t sign anybody, they still save the money.
I honestly don’t think the Maloofs care so much about winning.
If you dont sign someone
You have 20+ million of expiring contracts. When a team like the 6ers decided they want out of Iggy’s contract, you could essentially trade absolutely nothing for him if they were willing. Its like having 20 mil in expiring contracts, and you can use precisely as much as you need in a lopsided trade. Cap space is a good thing…
RUDY > MJ
Thank you KP
I'd like to keep K9 Beno and May
Nobody wanted to take Noc so whatever. We didnt really expect to lose him. We got even more cap space and A good player in Landry.
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by Neil Manich on Feb 18, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
WOW...Is it me, but this seems like highway robbery for us...(Rox Fan)
I mean we get Martin lose Landry but get Hill? Plus 2 first rounders? One swap all for taking Jeffries contract which only runs into 2011? at 7 Million?
I love Daryl Morey, best GM in the league….
Kings come out ok in deal, but Knicks are just plain STUPID…Thank you New York
Yeah New York look stupid again
Good luck with Martin. Treat him right.
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by Neil Manich on Feb 18, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
Sure thing...Same goes for Landry...Said a million times...He will be missed in Houston...
Make sure he doesn’t get shot at 2am while going for some food….
Although...
… it does help to have the green light to take on salary.
by henryclemente on Feb 18, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
Jeez
We still can’t unload K-9. He’s like a piece of gum stuck to the Kings shoe. If all we got out of this deal is Landry, then I say we got hosed.
Purveyor of Bull Plop
So now we have no SG
still have too many SFs and have added a good backup PF
(oh wow)
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
Landry
is easily the second best player on the team, its not even close.
What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.
He was arguably Houston's best player.
And the reason he didn’t start is because Scola isn’t as effective off the bench, while Landry is.
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I think Donte
Does a decent SG impersonation even at his crazy height. Still shaking my head though. There has to be more to this.
by OrangeLazarus on Feb 18, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
I'd say we have three potential shooting guards
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by Neil Manich on Feb 18, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
We were...
… doing ok there for a while without KMart. And Cisco wan’t even back yet. So this does not worry me.
Landry will be more that a good backup.
by henryclemente on Feb 18, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
Rockets are closer to competing....they are okay with taking a bad contract...
I for one would be fine taking on Jeffries for Hill and a 2012 pick and right to swap picks
Best team in the league with
Casspi, Greene, JT, Hawes, Beno, and Noc
Hope
by Ultrakingsfan on Feb 18, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
Damn
That would be INSANE.
That’s something to think about, though…the team that ends up with John Wall could possibly affect where the max guys sign. If they want to be THE big name, they might avoid the Wall team. OR they might want to play with him and be MORE likely to go there. Interesting dynamic.
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
by CaliforniaJag on Feb 18, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
Update
" FORMER SACRAMENTO KING, KEVIN MARTIN SAY GOODBYE TO SACRAMENTO ON THE JIM KOZIMOR SHOW TODAY @ 12P – SPORTS 1140 & KHTK.COM"
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Im surprised
he didn’t go on Sportsline for that ….
oh wait
by Dub_TC on Feb 18, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
me either
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
Stern Brokered the Deal ;)
Just watch his hands for the lottery drawing.
Bé foréwarnéd: I am a mémbér of StR Groupthink méntality.
by CAB on Feb 18, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Because we didn't lose out on anything
and it makes T-Mac’s agent happy, who also happens to be Tyreke’s agent.
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...and
we save all the headache of buyout negotiations if TMac had stayed past today.
by henryclemente on Feb 18, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
Making Reke's agent happy does what?
He’s till going to ask for the Max in a few years
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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah
but hopefully here.
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This is really a reach
“I’d love to sign with y’all, but three years ago you screwed over another one of my agent’s clients”.
Should we really be in the business of buttering up the agents of the league?
Maybe this is a bigger deal than I suspect…but it sounds far fetched.
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
The thing is
We didn’t hurt ourselves in the trade by trading T-Mac. Its just good relationship building.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
We could have hurt ourselves if we hadn't traded him
Nobody needs that headache.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
It's really not that big of a deal to me overall
But T-Mac’s not exactly a top flight talent these days. I think I’d rather our management not get in the habit of doing favors to agents and washed up superstars.
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
by otis29 on Feb 18, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Well think of it as relationship building between GMs
People are more likely to work with Petrie when he does those types of moves. What’s the point of keeping T-Mac?
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Fair enough
If McGrady had no real value to us in another way, I don’t have an issue. I just think an 18 win team should explore every avenue of improving the team…additionally, I’m not sure Petrie needs to bump his relationships/street cred with anyone in this league.
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
Sure GMs are willing to work with him
How about them working with us?
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
Is that true?
Do you build street cred in the league by being friendly or tough? Hard to say.
by discocricket on Feb 18, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
I'm really wondering who else Tellem represents, as in what players that will be FAs in the next couple years
but I really don’t want to look it up myself.
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Feb 18, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
WMG reps
Jamison
Roy
Lopez
Gallo
Rose
JO
Brockman
Perkins
Pau
Westbrook
Sean May
Sergio
Hawes
T-Mac
Tyreke
Plus a bunch more. Those are the notables. Not sure if Tellem represents all of them or what
www.mancancook.net
Wow, didn't think anyone would actually do it
Thanks.
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Feb 18, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
God I hope Tellem doesn't screw us
when it comes to negotiating Sean May’s extension.
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The only thing Sean May is extending is his waist size.
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by AnotherStupidSN on Feb 18, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions
He's cheap, so no problem.
He still hits his shots though.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
and just to clarify, jeffires is expiring next year, so he wouldnt be a problem for anyone except the knicks who wanted to clear cap space... rockets dont care about taking him on for a year til they trade his deal
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
We could...
… have done the same to get those picks. Which is what I was hoping for. But we get cap space instead. This means Petrie expects to be a player this summer.
by henryclemente on Feb 18, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
Isn't it obvious to you guys that Kevin didn't have the best chemistry with the team?
I mean just take a look at twitter, none of the Kings players are even commenting about it. Kevin was smiling and laughing on the bench during the 2nd half of that game yesterday. He was happy he was being traded.
This is probably the best situation for both teams. Outsiders are surprised Rockets gave up Landry. Guys good.
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by Aykis16 on Feb 18, 2010 11:01 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Landry is a player that will fit anywhere he plays.
Kmart will be missed….but maybe we was more discontent with the situation than he led on. Hopefully this trade does wonder’s for our chemistry.
Exactly.
In a perfect world it would have been great to keep Martin. But it wasn’t working. Thats the bottom line.
It happens all the time with players.
Sometimes you just have to look yourself in the mirror and say....Tyreke Evans.
That just happened.
Its like when your friend breaks up with a girl that can get you free tickets
You know they were fighting a lot, but you just hoped they could work through it. And now that its over, you are still in denial. Those seats were five rows up.
The man known simply as "Christmas Cheesesteak"
by Neil Manich on Feb 18, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Actually laughed out loud.
People in my office are looking at me now. :-P
A lonely Kings fan in a sea of gold and purple...
The rockets traded Landry
for Martin, picks, and a young PF prospect. They made out. I’d like to see us make out one of these days. . . .
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
You mean like
One year of Artest for expirings Donte Greene, and Omri Casspi?
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by Neil Manich on Feb 18, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
That was a horrible trade.
It just shows Petrie doesn’t know what he’s doing trading a Hennisey drinking allstar in Artest for two garbage players with absolutly no future in the NBA.
Sometimes you just have to look yourself in the mirror and say....Tyreke Evans.
That just happened.
I'll pass.
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He totally wanted out...
… I think Kayte was right last night in guessing he quietly asked for a trade.
by henryclemente on Feb 18, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
That is really interesting!
That none of the Kings’ players commented about Kevin. If Kevin wasn’t happy about the trade, he would not have been smiling and laughing on the bench. Actually, we haven’t seen too much laughing and smiling from Kevin as late.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
if the kings give david lee 13 mill a year i quit.
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
yep....
Our needs are the same….shot-blocking big and now we’re short on PGs esp if Beno starts
I highly doubt Beno starts
Tyreke = IaPG
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
by CaliforniaJag on Feb 18, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions
So you trade Martin for 1 year of Landry, plus X years of Lee?
Martin for Lee is not a deal I would have done.
Am i the only one who is excited to see Sergio play in NY?
I think D’Antoni has found the perfect point guard
It could be beautiful
and horrific. I predict Sergio leads the league in assists and turnovers from here on out.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
At least he was given his chance to show what he could do here, before being traded away.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
I was hoping to be more of a FA player in 2011....
jeffries contract would have worked for that. Less teams are going to have space in 2011.
According to Stein's twitter
Armstrong is going to Houston as well
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Houston making deals that I would make it I was playing NBA Live. They get a perfect fit for their team and the leagues most underrated player in Martin, a young player with a lot of upside in Jordan Hill and a great defender in Jefferies for Carl Landry and the corpse of Tracy McGrady. Oh and did I mention that they also get the right to swap … See Morefirsts with the Knicks next season and get the rights to their first rounder the year after?
Its very possible that LeBron doesn’t go to NY and the Knicks panic and burn their cap space on something like Bosh-Gay and lock in a top ten pick for the next two seasons.
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
What an amazing trade for Houston
Kevin is going to light it up there.
by MichaelMack on Feb 18, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
I'll start a post thread
But not until after. Only 50 minutes left.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Im O.K with trading Kmart.............
But not only for Landry.
Kmart- 20+ppg 4rpg 2apg
Landry- 16ppg 5rpg (That’s it, no defense….& clogs the lane for Reke)
What are the Kings plans, no free-agent wants to come here…& now we have no 2-guard.
WOW!!!
KINGS WILL BE 09-10 CHAMPIONS
Whaa?
Look at the minute differential between the two players.
Does any PF and C who plays in the post clog the lane? and if so do you prefer we only trade for big men who shoot jump shots rather than work the post?
JINX
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
So again
What you’re saying is you don’t want anyone who can score regularly in the low post…correct?
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
Does Lebron James thrive off of driving to the rim?
Does Shaq stop him from doing so?
How does he clog up the lane?
Again, have you watched this guy play? Would you prefer to have only jump shooters in your frontcourt so Tyreke can drive 100% of the time?
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
Just say NO to Marcus Landry!
Err, umm, yep.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Love Marcus Landry.
We should get him from NY! and start him at SG!
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Damn you ruining my joke!
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Btw
Do you know where Carl Landry is originally from?
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Purdue?
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Hometown fool.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Wikipedia says Milwaukee.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
You would be correct.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Put together a 5 for hoops from Wisconsin
Devin Harris, Terry Porter, Carl Landry, Latrell Sprewell and Caron Butler.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I win :)
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I think it would have been more effective using "foo" there instead of "fool".
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
All Reke can do right now is drive 100% of the time......
And Landry isn’t going to draw defense away from the basket.
KINGS WILL BE 09-10 CHAMPIONS
He's incredibly efficient from up to 15 feet
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
And he can command a double team
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Oh come on
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
Do you watch Houston games?
He does. Guy is good on offense.
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And he still scores.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
off double teams?
I like the guy but you’re selling that he’s an All-Star demanding double teams.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
Didn't Kevin demand double teams?
He wasn’t an All-star.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Guys can be great scorers and not be All-Stars
Landry scores efficiently, is tough, and is scrappy. You’ll like him LTTG.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
How do we have no two guards?
Garcia, Donte, Casspi? Oh, and maybe lets say wait to say the cap space is unusable once it is proven one way or another.
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by Neil Manich on Feb 18, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
Donte & Casspi aren't 2-guards..........
& Cisco isn’t exactly a all-star caliber player.
KINGS WILL BE 09-10 CHAMPIONS
I'm a garcia fan
He’s not an all star but he usually makes the team better. He might be a fringe starter but he’s a great bench player.
Umm, not take into account minutes?
Landry does that coming off of the BENCH. Yea, I think Landry, if he keeps improving, is a great trade. He should keep improving, he still has some natural teeth left.
by jasonmicron on Feb 18, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
Armstrong going to Houston
to make salaries work. The end of the Bed and Breakfast era.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Yeah it makes you so angry that's he included.....
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Marc Stein has the details on twitter for those who care.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
When this fails for the Knicks look for them to wait for John Wall to become a free agent...
by ucla06 on Feb 18, 2010 11:12 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Haha, Knicks
You can take the shitty GM out of the team, but you can’t take the shitty team out of the GM or something.
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by Neil Manich on Feb 18, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
Amazing trade
for Houston. How did we not get ANYTHING for giving McGrady to NY? How did we not get at least one of those two NY draft picks/swap options or Jordan Hill? This is ridiculous…
by Out of Service Pervis on Feb 18, 2010 11:16 AM PST reply actions
For the last time
Houston is taking on all the money. Therefore they get a lot of gain.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Why do this for Houston then?
Why do this for NY?
Getting nothing out of that last step seems – stupid and lazy.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
We're getting the same shit as before.
It’s just now Houston is getting picks for taking on Jeffries/Hill next year. (Hill will likely be out of the L after that.) This isn’t that big of a deal.
the Kings primary principles of doing this deal were Landry/Dorsey and the cap space next summer.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
We already had that if we just let T-Mac rot somewhere
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
Well then why are you being pissy?
It’s the SAME THING!
by Skinny Pete on Feb 18, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
I usually think if you do something for two other teams
at least a little something is owed back to you.
Idiotic I know>….
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions
You would hope so
I guess Petrie needs to build relationships since he’s pretty new to the game. /sarcasm
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
I think you overestimate the Kings position
Houston was in the driver’s seat. This is their deal. They dealt TMAC, not us. We never officially acquired him.
That being said, the Kings essentially end up in the same place. Acquire TMAC and let him rot (as you suggest) or keep KTEC and acquire Hughes expiring K.
by Skinny Pete on Feb 18, 2010 11:46 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
And what are we getting?
From trading TMac to NY? Besides some hypothetical ‘good will’? I mean, not even a second round pick? Nothing…am I wrong?
by Out of Service Pervis on Feb 18, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
Kings will buyout Hughes if they can.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
And a cheaper buyout.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
never happen
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
What never happen?
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Hughes won't take less $$
He’ll be playing in europe next year – maybe!
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
Then just waive him.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Larry Hughes won't likely take a buyout
It’s his last paychecks.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Tmac is a piece of shit
He isn’t worth anything.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I don't know how this will all shake out in the end in terms of "does this make us better"
All I know is, I’ve lost interest in watching the Kings in the short term. I just feel ill about this and I’m going to do something else with my time for a while. If they had at least made one of the other team take Peaches, that would have made things OK.
by Bitgod on Feb 18, 2010 11:17 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I recommend you tune in on Saturday
To see Carl Landry.
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by Aykis16 on Feb 18, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Are you serious?
… were you not watching when KMart was injured too?
At least now we have a sorely needed post scoring threat and all around hustle guy.
by henryclemente on Feb 18, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
I was, it's just...I have a very blah feeling about this right now
That’s why I said “short term”. I wasn’t against trading Martin for the right deal, and maybe he helped push it along. I dunno, I guess it’s also the lingering stench of last night’s game that’s got me in the dumps.
On the plus side, we do have enough free money now that after none of the big names sign with us, we’ll be able to lockup Beno for the rest of his career.
You know,
We haven’t really had Kevin Martin all year. I know nobody wants to say this. This doesn’t take really anything away from what this team has been doing all year.
The man known simply as "Christmas Cheesesteak"
by Neil Manich on Feb 18, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
A cold winter
And everybody forgets the excitement from the beginning of the season. People need to chill.
The man known simply as "Christmas Cheesesteak"
by Neil Manich on Feb 18, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
We need a thread on who the 2010 free agent targets are now....
Most of are resigned to the fact LBJ and Wade won’t come.
Some think Bosh is a possibility?
I don’t really want Joe Johnson for a max contract…
Old, (maybe), and OLDER
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
Gay
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
by CaliforniaJag on Feb 18, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
you realize that we could have sent martin to boston for ray allen and also offloaded noioni or someone... and still ended up with the same result
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
No
Because Boston couldn’t have given us anyone as good as Carl Landry.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
not having nocioni or one of the other albatrosses is better than having landry
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
Not gonna argue with you
But you really should watch Landry.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
I think this is a big issue
Have any of the naysayers actually watched Landry play?
I’m not gaga over this deal, but Landry is damn good.
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
Mega?
Come on…
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
They have a team option for next year at $3 million
Which will get picked up. After that, you’d have to expect that salaries are coming down.
He is not getting a mega-extension unless he suddenly grows about 4 inches or becomes a lockdown post defender.
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
Best part about Landry's extension
is it comes during the CBA negotiations. So we can probably get him for a lot cheaper. Martin’s contract extends past the CBA when it won’t be so cheap anymore.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
by Aykis16 on Feb 18, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
When did Landry become Eduardo Najera?
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Haha
THIS
The man known simply as "Christmas Cheesesteak"
by Neil Manich on Feb 18, 2010 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
Sorry Carl
I love Corliss too, but he wasn’t remotely in Landry’s ballpark – especially on the offensive side of the ball.
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
Half you must be Petrie's offspring.....
to keep defending this trade, we could have done way better.
KINGS WILL BE 09-10 CHAMPIONS
If we could have done way better
We would have. Would you rather have Jose Calderon? Josh Howard?
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
I'd rather us not trade Martin
but he wanted to leave because the organization didn’t support him vs. Grant Napear. It couldn’t be helped.
by VenomySnicket on Feb 18, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
It was more than that I think
Things will come out after the deadline. I guarantee it.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
I honestly am surprised
that Houston even gave up Landry.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Who know's if we end up keeping landry in the long run?
If he plays well he’s going to want a payday…but I’d only be willing to pay a guy like that somewhere between 5-6mil a year.
CBA
Repeat after me.
CBA.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
You don't think the salary levels are going to decline?
Should I introduce you to one Mr. David Stern?
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
And you are betting that a guy like Landry's going to get a huge extension
If he does, it will be because he improved in other areas of his game…meaning he would be worth it.
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
The new CBA doesn't matter
The issue will still be opportunity cost. Landry might be cheaper, but then so will all players, and the cap will be smaller. It isn’t as if the CBA will affect only Landry. The Kings will still have to decide between paying Landry or paying someone else.
And he will still be an asset regardless
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
We will still have his Bird rights correct?
And if so, he’s still an asset.
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
It's a possibility.
The new CBA should allow us to make a more reasonable offer than might otherwise be expected.
A lonely Kings fan in a sea of gold and purple...
but if they knew hill was coming...that softens the blow
Adelman will get the most out of hill
Him or Scola.
Scola would have been loads more valuable to both teams. Hence Scola stays.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Yep
Landry was probably Houston’s best player, but Scola started for a reason.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Really?
Petrie’s been fielding offers for KMart all year. You don’t think he knew what his market value was?
by henryclemente on Feb 18, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
Then let's hear it
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
Since we can't stop the Lakers from winning the championship we're hoping Houston will...
is that the real reason behind this trade?
As much as
I like KMart …..
IN PETRIE WE TRUST!!
by Dub_TC on Feb 18, 2010 11:24 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
So can someone break down the positives for the Kings on this one?
Carl Landry, Joey Dorsey and New York’s Larry Hughes seem like the short side of the deal considering the Kings gave up the best player in the group.
I do agree with the notion that the Kings gave up the best player
but if you think that Landry and, say, Donte or Omri can’t replicate his scoring, then you are just foolish.
by VenomySnicket on Feb 18, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
And really, he was a great scorer. That is about it.
I expected him to take some pressure off Tyreke, and for some reason, that wasn’t working
by VenomySnicket on Feb 18, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
Landry alone can replicate his scoring
at least this year. Martin was not himself this year.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
by Aykis16 on Feb 18, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Huh?
Landry alone can replicate his scoring
Kevin Martin is a 25 point per game player.
Carl Landry’s best season is 16 points.
Landry will not replicate Martin’s scoring. You could argue about Kevin’s attitude, injuries, etc., but I’m not seeing Landry as a top 10 scorer. Happy to be wrong.
Someone's got to take Kevin's minutes
And they will produce something offensively. Landry’s a damn good offensive player – I think the combination of the two factors will cover Speed pretty much.
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
by otis29 on Feb 18, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Who on this team is going to produce like Kevin Martin offensively?
Obviously Martin is having a bad year. But seriously. How many articles on this site have talked about how few NBA players in general produce like Martin offensively? Happy to be wrong. Maybe the answer is John Wall. But I’m not seeing it.
We have a bunch of possible playes who can step up on the offensive end
Donte, Omri, Beno, and now with the addition of Landry?
Of course we’ll miss the efficient scoring of KM, but other players will step up.
I think chemistry could recover it some.
I don’t think Speed fit in here like he did in the past.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
by pookeyguru on Feb 18, 2010 11:46 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Watch Carl Landry play
That’s all I’m saying. He’ll pick up a good portion of Kevin’s productivity.
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
This
Especially if he’s starting. Although I can see us bringing him off the bench and him still getting the majority of big man minutes. That way he wins 6th man of year.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Never hurts to have a player in award running.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
This way the Kings would have 2
And Casspi and Tyreke could make All-Rookie 1st.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Exactly.
Landry’s fine and all, but bignerd makes a big point…Kings gave up the best player in the deal and got the worst end of it.
by Out of Service Pervis on Feb 18, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
Not really
New York got the worst end out of it I think. They pretty much got the same thing as Kings (cap space) and lost two potential lotto picks. 3 if you count Hill.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
9.5 million dollars they're cutting off New York's committed salary next year.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
New York got the worst
no question. Also, Landry is right behind Kevin in terms of scoring. The only thing I miss is we don’t have a reliable 3 pt threat anymore.
by VenomySnicket on Feb 18, 2010 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
Kevin hasn't been a reliable threat from 3 this year
And Omri and Donté have been stroking it lately. Beno and Spence can hit as well. Cisco can too. Noc can but he’ll shoot anything.
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by Aykis16 on Feb 18, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I would argue...
that Landry is a better all around player. So we really gave up lost of outside scoring for inside scoring and hustle and better defense.
by henryclemente on Feb 18, 2010 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
which we needed.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Is Kevin an all-star?
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Who said that?
Listen haze, people in this thread are addressing your arguments…building up your strawman arguments isn’t really helping.
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
It was stated up-thread
that Landry is closer to an all-star than Kevin. Disagree x100
Ahh...I guess I was thrown off by him saying "EVERYONE HERE"
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
I disagree with that too
But I think Landry here works better than if we had kept Kevin. Things were not good between him and the organization.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Agreed.
But I think Landry here works better than if we had kept Kevin.
There has been this intangible sense that something hasn’t been right. Just wanting things to be right, didn’t make it so. I don’t think anyone has been able to put their finger on the problem, because we just don’t know all the facts. Kevin just hasn’t been the same, which has been noticeable to many people. I do agree that Landry will work out better than keeping Kevin.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
And lost our only true 2 in the process
Very thin backcourt now.
Before someone else says the obvious, I know we have 3s who can play the 2. Defensively I see this as an issue versus the quicker 2s of the league.
We also have Garcia coming back, who is quick enough to play D against 2s...
But you’re right that our backcourt just got a lot thiner…unless we keep Hughes for the rest of the season…but our only two “PGs” are Tyreke and Beno…who are both scoring PGs (if that)…
by Out of Service Pervis on Feb 18, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
Defense against 2s...
… was a big issue when we HAD Kmart. Haha.
by henryclemente on Feb 18, 2010 11:33 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Owned
rec’d
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
by CaliforniaJag on Feb 18, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions
As much as I love Martin
And although his contract is fair, his price is not worth the upgrade from Greene/Casspi/Garcia, at least for owners with tightening wallets.
There simply isn’t a market for Garcia/Beno/Noc, so this was the next best thing.
Save money while moving talent from a position with a surplus to a position with a need.
Brockness most likely.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I could see Dorsey taking his minutes.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
This
No one seems to be paying attention to Dorsey, who is a better defensive version of Brockman.
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
by CaliforniaJag on Feb 18, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions
still a half hour. I'm hoping we swing Kenny for a pick.
by VenomySnicket on Feb 18, 2010 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
Not what I meant...
how does Houston get BOTH the pick swap with NY in 2011 AND the 2012 pick as well?
We should be getting a pick with Landry to even out the value, and/OR moving Nocioni for Jeffries.
Because Houston took on all the big contracts...
… and got rewarded for it.
by henryclemente on Feb 18, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
What good was Kevin doing for the team?
Sure, he scored a lot, effeciently. He didn’t play defense, didn’t stay healthy, and his scoring didn’t translate to wins. We have pretty much played the season wihtout him anyway.
Kevin is worth more to other teams than to us
Which is why we should have extracted great value than a PF who doesnt rebound or defend, and may leave after 1 year.
wow you really don't know anything.
he is here for the remainder of this season and two after, at a bargain price
by VenomySnicket on Feb 18, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
Landry has this season and a team option for next, after that a FA
e.g. 1.5 guaranteed seasons of Landry. That’s it.
says the guy with the sig that says Kings will be 09-10 champs
by VenomySnicket on Feb 18, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
you're right but...
credit kmart for doing what the coaches asked of him. He was a great player for us.
Looks like the Bobcats might get TJ Ford for Augustin
So maybe Beno.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Felton
Beno probably still comes off the bench
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
by CaliforniaJag on Feb 18, 2010 4:43 PM PST up reply actions
I honestly think Beno and Reke should start....always keep one of the floor
Garcia and do some spot duty at the 1
you don't think
the kings will start donte at the sg?
by Pollard4LIfe on Feb 18, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
its all about denfese
Donte can’t stay with more SGs in the league on a nightly basis.
guess jeffries wouldnt have been bad then. hes a lockdown defender
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
I’d start Garcia (when he’s 100%), just to maximize the time at least one of Tyreke/Beno is on the floor.
This also maximizes the opposing PG mismatches.
Has garcia played much with Reke yet?
He’s likely to have better chemistry w/ evans than Kmart did.
I like that he can spot up shoot and handle the ball if necessary. The downgrade in talent from KMart won’t be so huge if he’s a good compliment to Tyreke.
Not really a passer though, so a cheap 3rd PG would be nice.
i agree....
Reke and Garcia helps to take pressure of Reke. Reke’s numbers will likely go up with Garcia next to him.
that's why a guy like cisco is vauable...
and the fool plays with a fire
I usually scoff at things like intangibles and fire
But Garcia was acknowledged as a leader on the team even while hurt, and got along real well with the young guys.
He can be a mix of a ron harper/john paxon role player. Defense and shooting.
I don’t hate his contract as much as I did at the beginning of the year.
And until he gets healthy, they’ve got Udoka.
That gets lost in the conversation a lot
These max-contract guys aren’t going to give up their bird rights.
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
not to me, you get his bird rights and will be able to offer him a ton more money than anyone else
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
eh Bosh needs a guy like Hawes
a 2 PF thing doesn’t work with him. Ask Jermaine O’Neal
by VenomySnicket on Feb 18, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
Not a big deal these days
its the new NBA
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
it's not like Sergio was getting a lot of playing time here
so I don’t see how losing his “true PG” abilities is a big blow to the team
by Pollard4LIfe on Feb 18, 2010 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
Nor do we have a true center, power forward, small forward, or shooting guard
Kidding. Hawes and Thompson can be considered “traditionals” at the center and power forward positions. Everyone else we have are hybrids of some form or another, which is great because then they can do more in more situations (Donte at the 2,3, or 4 anyone?)
I love Kevin too
He has been my favorite King for a long time,But some of you guys are tripping balls over here. He wanted out, he wasn’t playing like he could. We got a good player who kind of addresses needs and an ass ton of cap space for him. We didn’t have to take in a bad contract. Relax, this went fairly well.
The man known simply as "Christmas Cheesesteak"
by Neil Manich on Feb 18, 2010 11:32 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I wouldn't say that
until Landry plays as a King and shows that he is 4/10 of the player as K-Mart. Until then I’m optimistic about the trade.
by Pollard4LIfe on Feb 18, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
Another reason to dislike the trade
You trade guys high, not low. Kings really must have felt that Martin was not going to improve. I’m skeptical of this.
Yes, he’ll have a little real improvement masked by inflated stats.
Hopefully people won’t be crying when he takes the starting job and puts up 15/10.
New York's pace is slow enough
that his stats won’t be inflated. They’re not exactly playing SSOL over there.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Although with Sergio that might change.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
sorry fellas
turns out Hughes has a broken finger, gonna be out a few weeks, so no playoff push this year
by The Guy on the Couch on Feb 18, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
LOL JC
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
It's never too late for playoffs
But the Kings are in the Western Conference and, oh yeah, they aren’t that great yet.
well I don't know how much money the maloofs are looking to save...
hughes has no future on this team
But if Hughes is injured
No other team will want to sign him, meaning why would he take a buyout for less money with little or no chance of getting what he’s due for the rest of the year?
Most likely he’s going to tag along for the rest of the year.
is hughes hurt right now?
and aren’t we like his 10th team?
count on it
or an outright release
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
By the way...
in trading Sergio we gave up the only reason that kept us from taking Dejuan Blair in last year’s draft…
I know it’s a stretch, but still…
by Out of Service Pervis on Feb 18, 2010 11:38 AM PST reply actions
True,
But I’d rather have Blair, and Sergio’s contract only went “on the books” cause we traded for him…
by Out of Service Pervis on Feb 18, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
What is with the Blair comment lately?
The entire time leading up the draft everyone said Blair would be an impact player but likely a short career because of his knees therefore only a contender was going to draft him.
EVERYONE KNEW THIS!!!!!
Can we stop...
… with this Blair myth?
by henryclemente on Feb 18, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
Jon Brockman would disagree
and he’d do so while beating your grandmother and crushing kittens with his pinky finger
www.mancancook.net
by vfettke on Feb 18, 2010 11:52 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Why do that deal?
Why?
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
That's impossible
Money don’t match up.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
More to it
“Talks included Ford and Rush for Augustine, Nazr and Gerald Henderson. Not yet imminent.”
Charlotte has caproom
so they can soak it in. probably some other stuff going to Indy also, but who knows
by VenomySnicket on Feb 18, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
No they don't.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Charlotte and Indiana is close, but sources say not done. FIve players for now, including Ford and Rush for Augustine, Henderson and Nazr.
They're trying to beat the buzzer.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
good trade for IND..possibly both teams
augustine was terrible pick for charlotte, but looks like he may be decent
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Listen
The Kings did not trade TMAC to NY…the Rockets did. Sac never acquired TMAC (that would have cost us KT, remember?).
So, it was Hou who brokered the deal that netted them Hill (who I don’t want anyway) and the draft picks. Afterall TMAC was Houston’s asset and they made the best deal for them.
Feel free to be mad at the Kings for partcipating in the deal, but you can’t kill them for trading TMAC. They never officially had him.
The deal reported yesterday would have happened if HOUSTON wasn’t able to bring in a 3rd team. They did, end of story.
by Skinny Pete on Feb 18, 2010 11:42 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Ya, going to bed last night I thought the Kings could pull wool over the eyes of the Rockets and steal the picks from NY.
I think the Kings could have demanded the NY picks
and the Rockets would have acquiesced. But the Kings likely didn’t want to add Jeff’s salary, and so decided against it.
Way to not take advantage of the situation and not pick up a NY draft pick out of this, GP
Instead, lets celebrate Larry Hughes.
Above post clarified
disregard this post
Larry Hughes comes off the books
Arguably better than a NY draft pick imo.
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Staying in PHX
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Grounded in PHX?
His flight was canceled..
Sound the trumpets, Raise the drawbridge, and drop the Oldsmobile
by Balky Needs on Feb 18, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
Sam Amick Update on Twitter
He just talked to Martin, who is “ecstatic” about the trade. Sounds like things were not good in that locker room, and possibly between him and the organization. I think Kings did the right thing moving him when they did.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
I feel really bad that things didn't end better between us and Kev
Hope he knows how much we loved him here.
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It doesn't sound like things ended badly
He said good things about the Kings and the Kings sent him to a playoff team.
It ended like a bad breakup
If we didn’t let him go, the whole honeymoon/domestic abuse cycle would start all over again. :(
True
But it sucks that it had to go down like this. I think all of the fans clearly liked / loved Kevin…
by OrangeLazarus on Feb 18, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
You agree with this trade?!
No Kidding?
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
I agree with it too.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Would you rather have had Martin and the team/organization sulking the rest of the year?
And not be able to get cap space and a good young big man for him?
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Some time ago
there was that rumour about someone in the locker not happy with Reke handling the ball most of the time during games…it seems like even KMart had his ego…Reke is the better of the tow right now, and I’m very happy we give him the keys to our future right now. Landry will be a great player that could put back some of Reke’s missed layups and be around the basket when Reke drives and gets surrounded by the defense
"Even when I’m old and grey, I won’t be able to play it, but I’ll still love the game." — Michael Jordan
Go Kings!
by Panzerfaust on Feb 18, 2010 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
By all accounts
Martin was not happy because he was “seemingly the 4th or 5th option on offense” and he didn’t feel like a part of the guys, who were so young.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
I think they resented him too.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I thijnk they resented him too.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
So long KMart, and thank you for all the
fish scoring.
I’m happy with this trade, it can bring us some really good free agent this summer
"Even when I’m old and grey, I won’t be able to play it, but I’ll still love the game." — Michael Jordan
Go Kings!
by Panzerfaust on Feb 18, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
I still think
That you might also be happy with Landry… I am excited to see him play!
by OrangeLazarus on Feb 18, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
As am I.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I'm more than happy
with Landry. I want to see him start at PF as soon as possible, I think he’s a terrific fit on this team
"Even when I’m old and grey, I won’t be able to play it, but I’ll still love the game." — Michael Jordan
Go Kings!
by Panzerfaust on Feb 18, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
They made a decision it wouldn't work
And decided flexibility is more important. And if that’s the case, so be it.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Explains....
Which explains why he has been such a headcase and playin 1/2 ass this year….
further proof that something was up with this guy…… I wish him luck….but this further validates Napears comments
Napear is an ass-douche
This validates nothing in my opinion. If anything, I imagine Napear’s comments and the organizations lack of support for Martin made the situation worse.
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
by Exhibit G on Feb 18, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
so if there aren't any more deals with the Kings
how much money do the Kings have for free agents this summer?
20 mill
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I heard $22
But then you have to factor out next years draft picks
There are some guys smarter than me, some guys better looking, I take comfort in the fact that there is no guy that is both.
I defer to Pookey
There are some guys smarter than me, some guys better looking, I take comfort in the fact that there is no guy that is both.
I've factored them out.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
But it depends on several things ElRon.
Where the pick falls, and where the cap ends up being.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
True and that may be a 3-7 mill swing
still that means at worst 13 mil
There are some guys smarter than me, some guys better looking, I take comfort in the fact that there is no guy that is both.
22 bucks?
That aint much. I think Bosh might want a little more than that.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
New CBA
22 bucks is a fortune
There are some guys smarter than me, some guys better looking, I take comfort in the fact that there is no guy that is both.
by ElRonToro on Feb 18, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
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and the Maloofs will mow his yard I believe
by Pollard4LIfe on Feb 18, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
Hell, I'll mow his yard for 22 bucks
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
by CaliforniaJag on Feb 18, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
6 Minutes Left but no talks of any more trades?
Tyreke Evans for R.O.Y!
by sac-townz finest on Feb 18, 2010 11:54 AM PST reply actions
if you google carl landry
the STr article “we welcome you with open arms” is the second thing
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Liar.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
its in the "news results for carl landry"
which is the first thing that comes up
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I see now.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Your pants on fire.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Jordan Hill
I almost never watch college ball outside of march, but since I had a lot of U of Arizona fans as friends in AZ I watched a lot of their games. So needless to say, I am completely alright with the kings passing on jordan hill. The guy is just not that good and I don’t think he can project to improve much in the future. Basically, I think he’ll end up being a 7th or 8th guy off the bench who buys you some minutes.
Now I can be wrong (I was way off on harden who has looked great), but the kings did not need to take on a mediocre project at the cost of losing additional cap space. Likewise, the picks would have been nice, but exchanging picks in 2011 wouldn’t matter much and the 2012 pick didn’t seem worth losing the ability to sign a max FA this summer.
Overall, while I am sad to see kevin go (as a lot of you have said), I love landry as a player and really think he fills a need for consistent low post scoring on this team. Win win for the rockets and kings
And I'm like one of the most ghetto-ist guys in the NBA. - Ron Artest
by Kingsfan banished to AZ on Feb 18, 2010 11:54 AM PST reply actions
agreed
Hate to see kevin go, but love landry. and ya, jordan hill is not worth it
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Last minute news from Chad Ford.
Latest: Hearing one team is making a last-minute push for Amare. Suns source says a deal “may” happen. Link coming
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Maybe the Heat have relented on Beasley
Even if Suns don’t like him, they could flip Beasley this summer.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
only problem with landry
is he’s only 1 year younger than kev.
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deadline is here
Tyreke Evans for R.O.Y!
by sac-townz finest on Feb 18, 2010 12:00 PM PST reply actions
We made a deal that mattered.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Good trade for all teams involved
Could be a great trade for any or all 3 teams. Only time will tell.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Post-Deadline Thread up
There’s still possibilities of other deals being announced.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Which happens.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Landry is probably happy to get out of Houston
he got shot last year in a drive by.
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