Expert Opinions on Sergio Rodriguez
by Seth on Feb 18, 2010 3:29 PM PST
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PrintHey kids. This is Seth from Posting and Toasting, SBN's bastard child/Knicks blog. Sergio Rodriguez isn't a perfect point guard, nor is he necessarily a long-term solution, but a lot of Knicks fans are still pretty excited to have a new point guard to take for a spin. Chris Duhon simply ain't cutting it.
I'd like to write a post introducing Sergio to the P&T community. I've seen plenty of him, but I figured I'd solicit some opinions from all of y'all to flesh out the post. What's your take on Rodriguez- his game, his character, his idiosyncrasies- after half a year or so?
I thought about asking Blazers fans too, but I'm terrified of them, so I'll stick to you guys.
Thanks in advance!
(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)
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High risk - High reward
plays fast, makes many spectacular plays, but also many wtf? plays. I think he’ll do well in NY’s system though.
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Sup Seth
Sergio will dazzle you. He will also frighten you. He has amazing court vision, but sometimes this is a detriment, as his passes can go to someone who isn’t expecting them.
He’s lightning quick, one of the faster point guards I’ve seen. He can get to the rim exceedingly well because of it, and has led a few garbage time rallies for the Kings because of it. It’s also a big reason why his FG% is at a career best, he’s getting more efficient shots.
He gets knocked as a bad shooter, and he’s not great, but he has improved his 3P% each and every year and his form is solid. He’s currently at 35.7% this year.
On defense, he tries, but he’s really not that good at it. He’s a good ball hawk though, and plays the passing lanes well. He might be a little too aggressive in playing the lanes sometimes.
He’s young, and has the potential to be one of the best assist men in the league. He will also probably lead the league in turnovers. But you know what? D’Antoni should absolutely love this guy. If D’Antoni can’t make Sergio work, then Sergio isn’t as good as any of us thought he could be. He’s only 23 so there is still some potential, and D’Antoni is the perfect coach for him.
My prognosis: Start him immediately. Duhon isn’t worth your time anyway.
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by Aykis16 on Feb 18, 2010 3:44 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
Dazzle and Frighten
is well worded. You’ll get those Steve Nash “Ooooohhhssss” but plenty of those Duhon “Arghhhhs”
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He doesn't try very hard on defense
With his speed he should do a much better job of staying in front of his man. Well he does stay in front actually, usually about 10 feet in front but . . .
D’Antoni hasn’t let that bother him in the past.
The passing skills and improved shooting as described I agree with. He tries too hard to make end of Q shots when given the opportunity and telegraphs his intent to all rather than using the possibility of great pass to look defenders off.
He’ll really push the pace and D’Antoni should like that.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 5:24 PM PST up reply actions
This.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I agree with this analysis
I always felt Sergio, to survive in the NBA, would have to adjust his game to fit his team more… but if D’Antoni doesn’t work for him, when there are NO established or well-playing PGs in front of him… yeah.
It has to work… Sergio should be getting 8 assists a game for the Knicks, at least.
It will be fun, and I’ll be watching.
M—
#52
+1 from a Blazer fan
If any system can make Sergio look good it will be D’Antoni’s.
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If D'Antoni's smart
he’ll start Sergio and just tell him to run. Sergio’s gonna be awesome to watch but he’ll frustrate the hell out of you with the mistakes. However, D’Antoni knows how to coach a run and gun offense and could help Sergio so much. If D’Antoni works with him on the mistakes he makes and teaches him some things about running and gunning then Sergio’s going to go crazy for you guys.
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Sergio could bring SSoL to New York
Duhon and Nate weren’t good enough distributors. Or fast enough.
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When he's in he dominates the action, not in a good way always.
He has to make the play, Sergio is allergic to the concept of making the pass that leads to the pass that gets a score. he’s got to do it on his own.
That said, he’s fast with the ball, and has good court vision. He’s always trying to make a play for someone else to his credit. Sergio’s shooting numbers are better this year, but you wouldn’t know it from watching the games. Rarely does he take a shot that you’re not cringing at the time.
Given 15 minutes a night, he’s money in the bank for two pretty plays that lead to baskets and one “that might have been the worst decision I’ve ever seen on a basketball court” play.
What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.
I thought he played pretty well for the most part
For some reason, our coaching staff forgot that he was 23 years old, thus didn’t deserve a chance to play through his mistakes – although you could argue his production in his limited minutes was as good as any of the youngsters outside of Tyreke Evans and Omri Casspi.
I’ll agree with most of the posters here – he should get big minutes on that team. Worst case scenario is he doesn’t work out. Best case is he’s a productive young PG that should get better as he sees more floor time (like many young point guards).
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
Sergio can be pretty exciting
He can add a spark, which can really turn a game around. He is up-tempo acting as a catalyst to change the entire pace and tone of a game. He makes a lot of assists and frequently makes his teammates better. There is a down side to him, though. Sometimes, he makes some poor decisions, which result in turnovers. He has played mostly off the bench. He has a lot of potential to be really good with more playing time.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Easy
watch Fatboy Slim’s video of the song “Push the Tempo”…the title reflects his playing style, the video reflects his ability to turn the ball
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All I gotta say Seth is "Spanish Chocolate" baby!
You know what I really love, I really love the Lacoste Sport Sweat suit man. The one that looks like the orange that's the same color as fruit loop orange! Houses like clovers, houses like clovers whatever that man says! Twinkle, Stars, Diamonds, Emeralds. We got every color bruh! It's fu@#in crazy man. This fool walked up to me the other day, and was like blood, where did you get them at yo? What, you made them? I said, man we don't make nothin man! We don't make nothin man. We just make your girl give h%@d. When she sees these on sight. She never thought they come in size twelves man. I wear size twelves man!
You guys will be very pleased.
I have League Pass, watch a TON of hoop, and have Wilson Chandler on my fantasy team so I have seen you guys play quite often. I am consistently stunned that Dantoni (whom I LOVE as a coach) has stuck with Duhon – a player that is STUNNINGLY lame offensively – in your system.
I actually dropped a player to pick up Sergio this morning.
Sergio will RAGE in your offense. He is NOT a good defender, but he will absolutely jump start your offense and get you back up to the terrific pace you have played at in the past, and Dantoni had with Nash. He was very effective on the Kings when he played, it is just that it was difficult to mesh him with our other pieces – especially when we are so young that his style can bring out bad habits. In your style I think he will be your starter within about five games. He might not be your starter long-term, but I think he will fit in quite nicely on your team.
He is going to be awesome in Dantoni's system
If you wanted Ricky Rubio you got him. He is the NBA experienced version of Rubio.
Disclaimer: I think Rubio was extremely overhyped so I’m not saying you will get a potential superstar. Also I wish not to argue how great RR will or will not be it’s been done here like 1000 times.
I love beating dead horses.
so you think Rubio will be a huge bust?
Kobe sucks
by La Marc Gasol dridge on Feb 19, 2010 1:07 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
He said we're tired of talking about it!
Seriously, there will be plenty of time IF and when we ever hear that he’s coming to the NBA, something I have my doubts about. He’s a huge Star in Europe, sure to get offered big $$.
etc. Lets just wait an see.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 19, 2010 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
Seth
Rarely has Sergio played much over ten minutes at a time and has never had a chance to gel with a team. This is a problem because players have to get used to him and his lightening no look passes. I don’t even know how many times I have seen the look of shock when a Kings player realized they just got a pass from Sergio.
His ability to hit players takes time for teammates to get used to and begin to prepared for or expect. When he is clicking with his teammates he can have a zero turnover game, but often with the Kings the slow grind of the offense up until he comes in has led to players being completely out of sync with his style of play.
He has the ability to bring dynamic energy to the game and matched up with running players who are good away from the ball will lead to a fast paced and explosive scoring team. Just perfect for Dantoni. I mean it. He has been a huge change of pace for the Kings and his passing has been phenomenal.
He is young and still developing as a talent. He has room to grow and mature into a great PG. His turnovers and decision-making will improve as he is set up to succeed within a team that plays a style that matches his game. Knicks are perfect for him.
I love Sergio on the NYK. Needed to happen.
I hope D’Antoni stops jerking around his players and just let’s them play. Sergio can be awesome for them. Sergio, Eddie House, Wilson Chandler, Gallinari, Al Harrington, D. Lee, should be able to score in bunches. Also, if any one player can actually make Eddy Curry useful, it would be Steve Nash. Sergio, however, will be Nash 2.0. What an interesting team the Knicks will be for the rest of the season. Not good, still horrible, but very interesting.
Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut
D'Antoni's system + Rodriguez
might be a match made in heaven.
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Serg loves to run. That’s his game. His shot isnt great, but it is improved. You’ll see some nice alley oops from serg.
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by Starvin' Marvin on Feb 18, 2010 8:52 PM PST reply actions
Sergio is the white Travis Outlaw
no! no! no! YES!!!!!!! HE MADE IT!!!! and then gets blown by on defense to give the basket back
Free Maid Tu Rek
except travis outlaw can make an outside shot
Awesomeness (ô'səm-nes)
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2. n. Nicolas Batum
by thomasikehara on Feb 18, 2010 9:02 PM PST up reply actions
You talkin' about that Clipper guy?
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 10:57 PM PST up reply actions
i prefer to call him
a former but not forgotten portland trailbazer
Awesomeness (ô'səm-nes)
1. n. Something that inspires awe
2. n. Nicolas Batum
by thomasikehara on Feb 19, 2010 12:56 AM PST up reply actions
perfect for dantoni
he is steve nash, only he isnt funny or canadian, and he cant shoot
Awesomeness (ô'səm-nes)
1. n. Something that inspires awe
2. n. Nicolas Batum
What Sergio is
Very exciting and fun player. If you aren’t trying to win a lot of games, he’s fun to watch.
He is not a good defender and won’t likely ever be one. He can get steals from his gambling nature.
He has AMAZING court vision. But he also pounds the ball into the ground for 20 seconds before deciding what to do. No one else will touch the ball much unless they are shooting it or finishing a pass he set up. He really dominates the ball in a way that is unhealthy for a PG who will always be playing with other guards who are better than him.
Not a good shooter, but Duhon has been awful this year so he might even be an improvement.
Playing up tempo should work well for him, and he will AT THE VERY LEAST give you some very fun plays. He’ll also find your shooters on the perimeter nicely. He racks up the assists.
Have fun with him, take him for what he is, and don’t get too attached. He captivates some people and makes them obsess over him. He’s a fun guard, but not really a player who plays a winning style.
Mortimer
#52
^ this is the Blazer fan you should fear.
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by TheTinfoil on Feb 18, 2010 9:06 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
"Fear" is not a strong enough word
“Run screaming from” would be more accurate.
But no one ever listens, until it’s too late.
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Feb 18, 2010 11:30 PM PST up reply actions
Just curious Mortimer
Do you think he is what he is? Or is he still young enough to improve?
When I look at his stats, I see a guy whose FG% and 3p FG% is improving year by year. And he’s still only 23…
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
He definitely can improve.
You figure he hasn’t had a lot of playing time in his career. I think he could develop into a good PG for New York. -This is a “scary blazer fan” by the way.
The NBA- so easy a Kaman can do it
I think he can definitely improve
But he’ll need to alter his playing style further to be a consistent impact player for a GOOD team.
He is very young and has undeniably amazing court vision. He just doesn’t seem very willing to change his style of play, and not just in regards to pace… giving up the ball, playing off the ball, the things any regular guard has to do in the NBA, especially when they are a role player.
He will always be a role player, but he can be a really good one. The problem is, his style dominates the offense whenever he is out there, and he just isn’t good enough to do that.
When it works it is beautiful and fun, but it isn’t a style that is consistent enough.
He’s very young and still has promise. I think he can be quite a bit better than he has been, but I am not confident he will get there. He is, for sure, an NBA quality PG. I think if one expects him to be a star, or a long-term starter, they might be disappointed.
Shooting is also something that almost anyone can improve on. Same for defense.
It’s his ball-dominating and style-dominating ways that trouble me.
Mortimer
#52
Interesting..
You said that
He’s a fun guard, but not really a player who plays a winning style.
He hasn’t played for a team that plays his style so I am really unsure if the above is fair to Sergio. Maybe I am focusing on semantics here, but the style of a player is a rather odd way to put it.
I think players have to be used in ways and systems that mesh with them. I don’t think anybody has seen Sergio play in the NBA in a team that plays his style and so it could just be that he has been a round peg with a bunch of square ones. Time will tell I imagine.
I agree with MustangMBS
I don’t think he’ll be allowed to dribble the ball long in D’Antoni’s system. Run and gun, baby. Run and Gun! Sergio should be very excited – I’m a little excited, myself! I’ll definitely be watching for Knicks games, now…
Go Sergio! Your time has come…I hope.
by Igot D. Jones on Feb 18, 2010 10:22 PM PST up reply actions
Wind him up and watch him go
As wrong as Nate McMillian was as a first NBA coach for Sergio, D’Antoni is perfect
Rodriguez is going to light up Broadway. I’m not saying the Knicks will actually win games, but they won’t be boring—and that’s half the battle
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
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So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 18, 2010 10:58 PM PST up reply actions
Get ready for some crappy shooting and bulk turnovers!
lol. Even with that Sergio is fun to watch and should play great with D’Antoni.
by The Most Interesting Man in the World on Feb 18, 2010 9:46 PM PST reply actions
Fail, should've read
“I don’t always like crappy shooting and bulk turnovers, but when I do I watch Sergio.”
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by Kfan in Korea on Feb 19, 2010 4:09 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Perfect Fit
Sergio should really thrive under D’Antoni. If he gets lots of minutes (which so far he really hasn’t), he could improve greatly. He’s young and it’s fun to watch his passes. “Sergio alleyoops to Rudy Fernandez,” was a regular call by announcers in Portland.
If there is an NBA coach who should coach Sergio, it’s D’Antoni, without a doubt. Sergio may have lots of turnovers, but so does any point guard who pushes it. (If I’m not mistaken, Nash turns it over a lot.) I’m really happy for Sergio, especially if he sees a lot of floor time. And, it seems as if NY is the favored destination of those Spaniard players. The Knicks just gained a lot of Spanish fans, to boot.
I’m really pulling for him to make it in New York, because if he can make it there… well, you know the rest…
Can you imagine if D'Antoni could somehow get the Spanish National team together on NY?
That would be one scary, freewheeling offense.
And Sergio is the 3rd or 4th PG for them.
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Feb 18, 2010 11:32 PM PST up reply actions
Blazer fan here
I was pretty excited to hear Sergio is going to New York as it sounds like it’s a good team for point guards and they do like to run. Not all of us in Portland hated Sergio and I thought sometimes he was brilliant … he is great at the inside/outside game, no look passes and can throw a pretty good lob pass for alley-oops (ok, at least he could to Rudy … they had that down to a science). Maybe under D’Antoni he’ll get to really show what he can do … just don’t expect him to be the best defensive player on the court because it’s not gonna happen. But, I’m looking forward to seeing the Knicks play in Portland now to see how he’s coming along!
Nobody here HATED Sergio
They just saw that he was absolutely never going to get a chance in Portland, yet he kept trotting out there ahead of Bayless.
It was a system failure, not a player failure.
Good for Serge, getting to a D’Antoni team.
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Feb 18, 2010 11:34 PM PST up reply actions
D'Antoni must be in heaven right now.
But then again, so is Sergio.
NY’ers are going to love Spanish Chocolate. He’s got high energy, is amazing on the break and passes like a dream and can get to the rim in a hurry.
But, like the others mentioned already, don’t kick it out to him in threepoint land. That’s why you have Gallinari and Harrington.
There can only be one Noce!
Personally?
I’m not a fan. Sergio will have 5 good minutes and 5 awful minutes. If he can become consistent, than I think he’s a good pickup for New York. But I’ve seen no sign that Sergio is consistent.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
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That sounds suspiciously like Young Point Guard Syndrome
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
I don't think that Sergio was disliked in Portland, at all
In fact, he was a fan favorite, but wasn’t allowed to stay on the floor long, due to turnovers and lack of defense. He was traded away largely because he started asking to be traded. He was just very young on a team of very young players. Coach McMillan, necessarily had to slow things down to let the youngsters develop, in my opinion. McMillan’s slowdown game didn’t mesh very well with Sergio’s need for speed. Also, Nate was trying to assess what he had for players and so when turnovers occurred, off the floor came Sergio. Portland, even now, is often referred to as the slowest team in the league, so the Blazers were probably never a good fit for Sergio. I’ve long thought D’Antoni was the coach Sergio needed–and Sergio may just be what D’Antoni has been looking to get.
Agreed 100%
People hated Blake… not Sergio or Bayless. Mostly the hate for blake was because he was ‘roadblocking’ the talent.
"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.
But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"
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"I told Pau the Lakers never win here in Portland; I think it's great." -- Rudy Fernandez
for the record I hated both Sergio and Bayless
but have sorta grown to like Bayless, his driving to the hoop makes me happy.
by The Most Interesting Man in the World on Feb 19, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
Sergio reminds me more of "white chocolate" Jason Williams rather than Steve Nash.
Nash has amazing court vision, Sergio has amazing court vision, but I see more steadiness out of Nash than I do from Sergio. Maybe that has to do with their ages, but I feel that Sergio’s more chaotic, which is why he reminds me of Jason Williams.
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I dunno
Steve Nash didn’t become STEVE NASH until he was about 26. If you look at more comparable ages, Sergio runs about the same assist rate, or a better one, though Nash began controlling his TOs earlier.
I think they’re a closer match than a lot of people think – but Sergio needs to log about 100-150 games starting at point.
Significant gravitas shortfall expected in 2010.
Reggie Evans has a similar (or better) rebounding percentage to Karl Malone
Obviously, Evans is no Malone.
Sergio is an assists specialist. He hasn’t showed anything close to the all-round offensive game a guy like Nash has, and I think it’s unfair to Sergio to compare him with someone like Nash.
They’re just not similar players except in assist percentage.
I will get yelled at by someone for putting it like this, but it’s almost as if Sergio’s assist come selfishly… it comes from dominating the ball so much when he’s in, and it’s either him shooting (not common) or him passing and it leads to a shot. It isn’t really part of any offensive flow, except his own flow.
Yeah, Nash took a few years to get going, several years even, but I don’t think the two players have much in common.
It doesn’t mean Sergio won’t improve, maybe a lot, but I sincerely doubt he will be a hall of famer. Or an allstar. Being a guy who can start on a team that wins more than 30 games will be a great first step.
Mortimer
#52
All I'm really saying is I think the potential for more is there.
But I’ll admit I haven’t seen a ton of him. Also, rebounds, while good and worthwhile, were not the key Malone stat the way assists are for Nash.
I think Nash may be a one-off player, and asking anyone to live up to that is a bit much, but my point is not to be too dismissive of 23 year old PGs with talent.
Significant gravitas shortfall expected in 2010.
It's not dismissive
It’s just being realistic about a fairly limited player who excels in one stat.
Nash is much more than assist percentage, the same that Malone is much more than rebounding percentage. That was the point I was making. Sergio is young, he isn’t done developing, but he has some inherent flaws that would need to change to work as a roleplaying PG… in my opinion.
Playing under D’Antoni will be a great opportunity for him.
I see him, up to this point, as a extremely flawed player with potential that might not ever develop past a curiosity. He passes well, but does it really help his team?
The Kings under Westphal were the up-tempo new start for him. I hope the Knicks turns out better. But he is a kid whose game hasn’t changed much at all over the last 4 years, and it’s part of the reason (not the only, but part) he isn’t on the Spanish National teams any longer… they opted for more dependable players. Guys who can play a role.
I don’t want to dismiss any player, especially while they are young, I’m just trying to be realistic— and critiquing what he has been up to now. And that’s a curiosity… big assist percentage, not much actual impact.
He HAS to learn to exist as a role player, because he tries to play like a ball dominating star. Even though he still has potential and isn’t done developing, I think it’s fair to say he is not a burgeoning star.
I think it’s much more fair to say “he could be a really good back-up PG, or a role playing PG”. That would be awesome, considering his play up till now.
He’s a perfect player to have a look-see with for this Knicks team.
Mortimer
#52
I should add
If one thinks he can be more, then they are certainly entitled to their opinion.
From watching him over a few years on the Blazers, and every once in a while on the Kings, I think he’s the same ol’ Sergio. Not good OR bad enough to inspire the devotion or annoyance he causes in people.
In the past he has made it clear how much he wanted to be in the NBA, so I hope he gets on a real nice streak during this last 20-something games of the season and earns himself a multi-year deal with someone. There is no reason he can’t be a good backup PG in the NBA, skill-wise.
Morty
#52
Morty you hit the nail on the head that I couldn't quite exactly figure out but sums up exactly what it is I feel about him:
From watching him over a few years on the Blazers, and every once in a while on the Kings, I think he’s the same ol’ Sergio. Not good OR bad enough to inspire the devotion or annoyance he causes in people.
Minus the Blazers watching (Thank You Comcast!), he’s not good enough to inspire devotion OR annoyance. I’m more annoyed at the Sergio love than I am at Sergio himself. He is what he is. Thanks for putting in context.
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'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
He's still young
He is what he is.
He’s 23, so I think it’s a little early to writing the final chapters of his story.
In fact, it wouldn’t surprise me to see him return to the Kings in 2-3 years.
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by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 19, 2010 8:33 AM PST up reply actions
Oh yes. That's what we need is more Sergio.
As opposed to that trouble maker #23.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Get over it
We’re going younger and cheaper. Sergio is younger and cheaper. Kmart is a veteran who is getting paid too much for a team in our position. As you’ve reminded me often, it’s called rebuilding.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 19, 2010 9:47 AM PST up reply actions
You have that a bit inverted
We’re going cheaper. That doesn’t always mean younger. Sean May, Ime Udoka, Desmond Mason have all been older. It just so happens that a lot of younger players are cheaper.
Sean May
will turn 26 April 4.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 19, 2010 1:57 PM PST up reply actions
You're up to the same old shit you always are CC.
I’m tired of it.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Hey Mort!
He was a good back-up PG in the NBA already. You might recall all the way back to last season when he was back-up PG (and started about 10 games) for a Blazer’s team that won 50+ games. Just sayin’. ;)
the poster formerly known as sergioftw, in recovery
No, you're very right
And he was an important part of the team, too. I hope he can find a team that either gives him more than that, OR that Sergio accepts that as his NBA destiny.
I just want players to be happy!
Blazers and Kings fans got added incentive for Sergio to be awesome for the Knicks… each game they win makes their lottery pick worse, and as we all know their pick for the next draft goes to the evil Jazz no matter what— not even top 3 protection.
So I hope Sergio takes that town by storm and grabs the city by its nuts and twists them to a much worse lottery pick!
Morty
#52
Yes.
“Well he accept ‘good back-up pg’ as his destiny?” is a good question. I’m glad he is getting this 30ish game stint with the team of his dreams to give it a shot. Either way, this should be a reality check for him. And yes, for the love of God, the Jazz don’t need a top-threeish pick next year.
the poster formerly known as sergioftw, in recovery
Good to see you, by the way!
I hope all is well.
I will be watching almost every Knick game on league pass and using my mental powers to induce positive play for them all the rest of the way down the stretch.
Sometimes they play like they actually get to keep their pick. Have some pride, New York! Play to win!
Morty Pie
#52
of course, most Blazers fans had the same well wishes and expectations
when Sergio joined the Kings. (This should be perfect for him, he needs a new environment and some minutes, he will fit this (your) system well).
Let’s agree that D’Antoni’s Knicks will be the “real” right place for Sergio to blossom.
by betweentheeyes on Feb 19, 2010 8:52 AM PST up reply actions
make that
D’Antoni’s Knicks should be the “real” right place for Sergio to blossom.
by betweentheeyes on Feb 19, 2010 8:55 AM PST up reply actions
and then it turned out that Tyreke Evans
was the hands-down rookie of the year.
the poster formerly known as sergioftw, in recovery
and Beno came out on fire
You just couldn’t not play Beno given his hot hand and that left Sergio as the odd PG out.
Unfortunately
comparing one of the most prolific shooters in the NBA to…Sergio is a fairly vast difference.
What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.
Sergio has been a victim of the numbers game
in both Sacramento and Portland. Just too many guys ahead of him to allow him to get consistent burn. In Sacramento we have the top rookie in Tyreke plus money tied up in Beno, so that has limited Sergio’s opportunities.
He’s very flashy and fun to watch and has played extremely well in some outings. He’s the top plus/minus guy on the Kings this year and among the leaders in PER. He brings a lot of energy and will be a perfect fit with the Knicks, particularly since there is nobody of note ahead of him that “has” to play.
The only thing that might bog him down is McGrady, but I think Wilson Chandler could really go off with Sergio feeding him the ball. Lee as well should benefit.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 19, 2010 12:37 AM PST reply actions
You brought up some good points.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
He is a great team mate and I hope this is not his
Last stop in the NBA but he is not the all star that La Marca and the Spanish fans think, almost average is his ceiling but I like the guy and he is fun to watch,good luck Sergio
by southern oregon on Feb 19, 2010 12:42 AM PST reply actions
OK, who left the front door unlocked?
Knicks fans? Blazers fans? Rockets fans? What is this, a blog or something?
I’ve really enjoyed this thread. Great perspectives. Thanks for taking the time to drop in, everyone.
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How dare you enjoy this thread with all the Knick/Blazer/Rocket debauchery here?
You disappoint me with your open ended thinking.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
seriously
thanks everybody for commenting. i’m posting a link to this thread and quoting some of your posts directly in my rodriguez write-up.
you guys are the best.
Seth
The only thing that wasn’t covered here was the reports that all the Kings players “Love to play with Sergio.” Westphal has said that repeatedly in interviews. That all the guys love having him at PG.
I didn't know that.
That is great praise, coming from your own teammates.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
i routinely mug people
cus i’m from brooklyn. blazers fans… they’re what… crust punks and hippies right? you guys hardly even carry knives.
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I routinely hug people
cus i’m from CA. knicks fans… they’re what… some kind of mug who wants to present like a thug.
people from LA talk too much
we can agree on that, right?
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Only during the 2nd and 3rd quarters
They aren’t there for the 1st or the 4th.
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Scary Blazer fan
Basically what has been said is spot on. Like mortimer said, sergio is a tease with his exciting play and potential due to amazing vision, but he hasn’t evolved. Enjoy what you get, but don’t get too attached.
D’Antoni is probably the best of all possible team fits for Sergio. However he plays there will likely be the best you ever see him play anywhere.
"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.
But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html
"I told Pau the Lakers never win here in Portland; I think it's great." -- Rudy Fernandez
Has he gotten enough minutes to evolve?
He’s averaged 10 minutes a game for his whole career. All I’m saying is that maybe the wildness would calm down with a longer leash.
Significant gravitas shortfall expected in 2010.
posting in this thread cause i'm a blazer fan
glad sergio is no longer in portland, if there is a fit for him in the nba it is in NY
pretty sure that has been said before
did i mention i’m a blazer fan?
Sigh...
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