Post-Game Thread: Kings at Suns
by Ziller on Feb 21, 2010 7:45 PM PST
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lol - This is the third post, by my count
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Keep it coming
I love It’s Always Sunny.
"Greg Ostertag is one of the finest centers in the history of Western Civilization." - Bill Walton
Ya pretty sure it's 4
pretty sure it’s four
"Greg Ostertag is one of the finest centers in the history of Western Civilization." - Bill Walton
Ah, the silver lining.
And Beno and Landry had good games tonight.
An aside: When they showed Landry in an interview, he was talking about the other Kings players. He referred to guys talking in “our” locker room. He could have just as well said “the” locker room. I thought that was very telling that he has really bonded with the team already.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Grumble...
Am I the only one that wants to see the Kings actually try to win games instead of “teaching the young guys” every night? Hawes on the bench a lot and Noce a no show so what we can give McGuire a look or teach Casspi how to play defense?
I hope we get a consistent lineup and play this upcoming home stand to win.
And yeah...
I realize they are mostly young but still…
by OrangeLazarus on Feb 21, 2010 7:50 PM PST up reply actions
I don't think Noce would make a difference to be honest
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
and I don't think PW has just played the young guys to teach them anything
He has gone with whatever veterans we had if it gave us the chance to win games. We’re just not very good
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
I'm OK with Westphal experimenting with different lineups for the balance of this year
But next year, I sure would prefer a solid 8-9 man rotation
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by section214 on Feb 21, 2010 7:50 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
If you can name a lineup & rotation that will allow us to win with what we have, you will soon be coaching professionally for fun & profit.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Feb 21, 2010 7:52 PM PST up reply actions 6 recs
Hard to put Hawes in when he has 5 fouls in his first 10 minutes
And I was surprised to see McGuire come in during a pretty pivotal part of the game. I’ll definitely agree with you re: Casspi’s defense though. They should focus on that a while so he can become a consistent presence in the lineup.
Why won't that stupid StR let me into their crappy club for jerks?
McGuire played quite well
Until he doesn’t start taking shots (a la Nocioni, for example) I don’t mind if Coach W plays him as a defender. He rebounded really well.
"Even when I’m old and grey, I won’t be able to play it, but I’ll still love the game." — Michael Jordan
Go Kings!
trade him
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by Kfan in Korea on Feb 21, 2010 8:01 PM PST up reply actions
Other than not keeping the Suns off the offensive glass in the second half; the defense wasn't bad.
Now if the Baby Royals could figure out a way to get their offense chugging while the other team goes to zone, we’d really be in business.
by Rhondda the musician on Feb 21, 2010 8:01 PM PST reply actions
Watching the Por-Uta game
the announcers said Utah has only 3 – 1st rounders on their 12 man roster. Crazy.
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I was trying to come up with who they are too
D-Will?
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
Occur and AK47
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by Kfan in Korea on Feb 21, 2010 8:11 PM PST up reply actions
ah, right
and wtf with my spelling of Okur?
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by Kfan in Korea on Feb 21, 2010 8:12 PM PST up reply actions
Koufos was 23rd pick in 2008
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by Kfan in Korea on Feb 21, 2010 8:13 PM PST up reply actions
Haha
It is D-Will, AK47, and Koufos
That’s pretty insane. Credit to the FO and coach of course
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
Credit to the FO
god damn, look at how many wasted first round picks!
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yeah
There are some 1st round misses there
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by Kfan in Korea on Feb 21, 2010 8:17 PM PST up reply actions
Does the FO get that a boys for their payroll?
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I was wondering whether you thought they were talking about the Jizz
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hah
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by Kfan in Korea on Feb 21, 2010 8:14 PM PST up reply actions
Occur plays for the Jizz you tool.
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by pookeyguru on Feb 21, 2010 8:16 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
AK47 was drafted 24th overall (1st round) in 1999. Yes AK47.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
If you're going to be a fact-checker, you have to be right.
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by iashwash on Feb 21, 2010 8:18 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
NO FAT CHICKS.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Feb 21, 2010 8:18 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I like Westphaul
But I do wonder sometimes if he’s going to end up being our PJ Carlesimo.
"I hate all sports as rabidly as a person who likes sports hates common sense."
-H.L. Mencken
You mean Tyreke is going to choke him?
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
Minimum contract??!!
How in the hell is he going to feed his family on a minimum contract??!!!
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
by edm7 on Feb 21, 2010 8:23 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Approves
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Feb 21, 2010 8:21 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
random question
This came up in conversation earlier today. Does the expression “Does [self in third person] have to slap a bitch?” originate with this skit?
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This skit featured "choke a bitch."
Seemed appropriate with a Spree remark.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
ah, "choke a bitch," sorry
but same question. I don’t know why I wrote “slap” – but still, is that the first time this showed up in pop culture? I’m still trying to piece together how dramatically 2.1 seasons of Chappelle show managed to change America.
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by iashwash on Feb 21, 2010 8:38 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I wish you didn't either.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Just got home from the game
the 1st half was great, the 2nd not so much. Still a fun time tho!
I thought it was pretty apparent tonight: We’ll only go as far as our big men will take us. Landry looked pretty good and JT was impressive with his high arcing jumper in the first half, but there wasn’t much besides that.
Reke looked out of his normal smooth flow tonight, but I speedster like Nash will do that to you.
Donte played a hell of a game and his shot looked good from behind the arc.
Casspi had a TON of supporters there. IDK if they showed it on TV, but a ton of fans in the upper deck were cheering for him. It must make it a lot easier on him knowing he has all the support on the road.
So that’s it…just a few things I took away from the game. I would’ve loved to see a win, but there’s always next year in Phoenix.
GO KINGS!
Omar Minaya is my hero!
JT and Landry
ARE our big men. If they both looked good then why didn’t we win this game IYHO?
"I hate all sports as rabidly as a person who likes sports hates common sense."
-H.L. Mencken
Landry is a good player. He is not the answer for all the Kings frontcourt troubles. That is all.
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Not really.
They’re both offensive-rebound oriented. And neither can get the ball in the post, back to the basket and put the ball in. They would look fantastic in an uptempo system together, but in the halfcourt game I don’t see them meshing at a “beastly” level. They’ll do well, but they won’t be up there.
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I was just thinking they would compliment eachother well. Noah is the bruising defensive guy with not much range outside 6 feet or so and Landry is more of an offensive force. I think our problem is that all our bigs just hang outside of the paint too much.
Omar Minaya is my hero!
Landry is in the paint more than you think
I thought he was a good pairing with Yao.
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that could definately be
I’ve seen Landry play a whole 75 minutes in his career (or something like that). He was taking quite a few of those baseline jumpers tonight, but I’ll look for that whenever we have our next game
Omar Minaya is my hero!
Look at what happens when someone else shoots the ball especially
He goes in
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btw, I like Landry's game
alot. I was rooting hard for him as a rookie, glad he made it. But I still hate the trade. Go figure.
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noahs DRB% is over 27% this year.
"Oooohhh, cat in the wall, eh? Now you're talkin' my language."
Haven't looked at his stats in the last couple months
is it really that high? Interesting… drb% is the a function of just team rebounds or total rebounds? And how good a rebounding team is Chicago really? There’s alot of factors, I wasn’t saying he was solely an offensive rebounder, but he is more geared in that direction, no? Correct me if I’m wrong.
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chicago is a good rebounding team. noah has bulked up a little so he holds his
ground better than he did last year. he is geared for offensive rebounds mostly because thats how he gets his offense. but he has become a very good defensive rebounder.
"Oooohhh, cat in the wall, eh? Now you're talkin' my language."
No, I agree
I was just following his logic and wondering what he thinks.
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-H.L. Mencken
Lack of a legit 2 guard.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Feb 21, 2010 8:28 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
well when we get the #1 pick
and get John Wall and move Reke to the 2, we’ll be unstoppable.
Omar Minaya is my hero!
I'm not sure how Reke would do with Wall
Reke is in the mold of LeBron, Wade, Kobe, Joe Johnson… You’ll notice none of those guys plays with a ball dominant PG. If your initiator is going to be a wing, your PG needs to be a Bibby type guy.
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by Kfan in Korea on Feb 21, 2010 8:32 PM PST up reply actions
How ball dominant is Miller when Roy is in the lineup?
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by Kfan in Korea on Feb 21, 2010 8:35 PM PST up reply actions
He scored 60+ the other night
If that’s not ball-dominant…
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-H.L. Mencken
And that's why not many in Portland agree with the pairing
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
It was 52 and Roy was in a suit
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by Kfan in Korea on Feb 21, 2010 8:38 PM PST up reply actions
Ohhh
I was guesstimating on the points, but I didn’t know that Roy was on the bench.
"I hate all sports as rabidly as a person who likes sports hates common sense."
-H.L. Mencken
Of course you didn't.
I’m not sure how picky you are about letting facts get in the way of your argument.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Uoohhhh
Touchy. I was not making an argument – just anecdotely questioning his proposition. And he set me straight – with facts! – not dogma.
"I hate all sports as rabidly as a person who likes sports hates common sense."
-H.L. Mencken
What dogma do I push on you?
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Larry Coon forgive me for I have sinned. lettere is a dumbshit and should be slapped until the stupid leaves him.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Heh.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
No need to put
words in my mouth. I never said you pushed dogma on me.
"I hate all sports as rabidly as a person who likes sports hates common sense."
-H.L. Mencken
Than why do you bring it up?
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Especially in a response to me.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I have no idea
it would nice for one of those automatic-Blazers-Edge popups to show up suddenly and comment. They always seem to be here whenever the Blazers are brought up.
That’s a great question though, well played.
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That's because they read StR.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Looking for mentions of the Blazers.
I’m pretty sure the entirety of Blazers fandom scours the entirety of the internet constantly looking for mention of the Blazers.
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Haha.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Magic-Scott
That’s the traditional route
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by Kfan in Korea on Feb 21, 2010 8:35 PM PST up reply actions
Dong!
I’ve never been a believer in having all your stars either in the frontcourt or the backcourt. I think a backcourt with one dominate scorer, works better with a complementory player who plays defense and hit his 3’s at a high percentage.
Parker/Duncan, Nash/Amare, Roy/Oden, Kobe/Gasol
Turner to me is just a younger Martin, and I’d like to keep our option to move Evans to the SG open. I’d rather see us get the biggest baddest big in the draft. If we’re going to spend what little money we have after the next CBA on stars, I’d rather they weren’t both in the backcourt when a mid range role player could do just as well.
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The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
Turner
is the 2nd best player in the draft at this moment, in my opinion. Now, a lot can change between now and the draft. But Turner could be an all star backcourt man, and you don’t pass that up just because you don’t want all of your stars in the backcourt. One thing is for sure, and that is that we are not yet at a point to be drafting for need over the best talent.
We have a draft pick and cap room. Draft the best player available, and then go use the cap space.
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BPA is just as subjective as Player of Need.
As you say ‘we aren’t at the point to be drafting for need’, but at this point in time is anyone a sure BPA, maybe Wall but Turner? Still, I’ll go old school on talent. If there’s a potential star big available you take the Big because they don’t come around very often.
We’ve had and Have a potential star in the back court, but it was when we had a star at the PF and Center that we had the most success.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
That's what GP gets paid the big money for, to find the best player.
BPA is not as subjective as player of need. With Player of Need, you are categorically ruling out a subset because you don’t need a certain position and making a judgement on the rest. BPA, by definition looks at the entire set and makes a judgement.
What GP gets the big money for is making a pre-draft judgement on the careers these kids are going to have. If you do that, and you believe there’s a 10 time All-Star (Wall), a 3 time Al-Star (Turner), and a bunch of NBA average big guys, I’m sorry but in our situation, I’m going Wall, Turner on my draft board.
You can try to make the case NBA GM’s don’t know what they’re doing and a dartboard would be almost as good, and given the history of the draft, you have a case, but given Petrie’s history of drafting, he’s starting to build a pretty solid resume he’s a better than average drafter. In other words, his evaluation of player’s careers are probably more accurate than his peers.
What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.
I said "in the first half, but there wasnt much besides that"
They both looked great in the 1st half (when we were winning). The 2nd half they both struggled a bit, and of course we started to fall apart
Omar Minaya is my hero!
Mmm
Makes sense.
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-H.L. Mencken
Thanks for your impressions
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
28 straight games with 25+ for Durant now
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Durant and Roy?
I wish we were that soft.
Roy-Durant-LMA
Not the strongest team you can put on the floor.
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Dude
You don’t need strength if you have speed and length.
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-H.L. Mencken
Not to mention Uber-talent
"I hate all sports as rabidly as a person who likes sports hates common sense."
-H.L. Mencken
Hence "But wet. Hella wet."
I’m not saying I wouldn’t take that as a GM, but I’d likely try to trade LMA for someone stronger.
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Or Roy
I’m sorry but Durantula is for real and it was a mistake to pick Oden over him. At least, at this point in both of their careers.
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
I think everyone knew that Durant had a higher ceiling
I think P. just went for the scarcity/need factor. Probably a mistake though, I agree.
"I hate all sports as rabidly as a person who likes sports hates common sense."
-H.L. Mencken
I think the only way ODen can possibly make his case
is to play either some seriously productive FULL seasons, or contribute real minutes and productivity to a championship winning playoff run.
Even then, it will be hard
Durant is going to be a top 5 player in the league – if he isn’t already.
"I hate all sports as rabidly as a person who likes sports hates common sense."
-H.L. Mencken
I don't know dude
Right now, do you take Dwight Howard, or Kevin Durant?
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Howard
but Durant may be closing the gap.
I also don’t know if Oden had the tools to be a Dwight Howard. Up until this point, it looks like a mistake. If Oden comes back strong then there maybe a discussion
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
?
Not as athletic, but taller and longer. Both hands ability. Fierce strength as well as speed.
He had the tools bro.
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He never looked "fluid" to me
I understand the point though. I guess today’s reality just makes it look like a mistake
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
Have you seen Dwight Howard in the post?
Hardly fluid.
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Not the basketball moves
but the body movement.
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
No way
Greg Oden streaked the court like a gazelle, and dunked effortlessly.
Honestly, and I don’t mean this to be any way offensive – I think your current judgement is clouded by the Greg Oden we’ve been exposed to for the last two years. This guy looks nothing like that kid at OSU.
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Wow
Even the way he walks is different. I see your point
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
Yeah
Hopefully now you can see why I’m of the opinion that if you had that pick, you took Oden, hands down every time. The kid looked like a franchise cornerstone no question.
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And I mean this in all seriousness
You never “fully recover” from a knee injury. Even in situations where your knee recovers 100%, you’ve lost that bit of faith, or self-belief, or youthful ignorant bliss that you can never get back. Even if your knee is healthy, you’re still thinking about it breaking, and the mental and physical anguish it took to bring you back to your current point, when really all you need to be thinking about while playing basketball is the basketball. You should trust your body to do what you want and not give out, and when you lose that trust it’s usually gone forever.
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You sound like you know this from personal experience.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
and his ice dancing has not been the same since
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by Kfan in Korea on Feb 21, 2010 9:17 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah.
Sucks. I also know the got-knee-to-100-then-blew-it-again experience. Greg Oden is in a miserable place right now.
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I know someone who had a knee injury.
Just like you say…you never quite psychologically get over it.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
I know its that way
from a back injury. even when you’re feeling 100% you worry about it.
by TheFifthMookie on Feb 21, 2010 10:38 PM PST up reply actions
Not everyone felt that way though.
There were people in Durant’s camp from the beginning.
He's improving there though IW.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I remember the pre-draft
scouting reports – and few of the “experts” thought Oden would ever be much of an offensive threat.
Did Howard have a similar report?
"I hate all sports as rabidly as a person who likes sports hates common sense."
-H.L. Mencken
and Durant's bench press was scary bad
It was a toss up at the time. Portland had to pick Oden. Getting the 2nd pick was winning that lottery, that year.
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by Kfan in Korea on Feb 21, 2010 8:53 PM PST up reply actions
I think and still think Oden is the right pick. He's just been hurt a lot which is always unfortunate.
Durant went to a much different situation than Oden went to.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Oden was the consensus choice
but obviously the majority is not always right. A GM’s job is to differentiate between consensus hype and fact.
Having said that, I can’t blame him. Dominant big men are the holy grail of basketball.
"I hate all sports as rabidly as a person who likes sports hates common sense."
-H.L. Mencken
If I recall correctly
people felt that Dwight might not be as good of a rebounder/defender/shotblocker compared to Emeka Oakfor. Dwight was a bit of an enigma.
You can't have a discussion now about it
Clearly knowing what we know now, you take Kevin. Hands down. But you can’t bank on a player getting injured.
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I don't think the Blazers regret taking Oden. They regret his injuries.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I don’t see how this comment relates. Yes, Roy is better than Bibby, Durant is better than Martin, and LMA is a little better than Miller when those three were together. But that doesn’t have anything to do with anything, does it?
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No
that’s why it was a joke.
or, a lame attempt at one …. that’s what i get for trying to be funny and eating cake at the same time.
by what_the_crap on Feb 21, 2010 9:24 PM PST up reply actions
nah dude, it's all good.
At first I thought it was, but I’ve been in a pissy mood since the trade. Fuck me and don’t worry about it, you did well.
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
lol no worries
I really wasn’t here when the Webber trade went down (don’t even know if StR was around, i think it was) …. but I don’t remember a trade that actually pissed/hurt Kings fans like this.
by what_the_crap on Feb 21, 2010 9:29 PM PST up reply actions
For some of us (me personally, at least)
it’s not really the trade itself, as in what we got back, but just the way everything went down.
I’m pretty sure some are pissed at both (how it went down and tha trade itself).
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
exactly
The reason why it bugged me so much is that I’m a fan of Kevin’s, and i thought he got done wrong this year in Sac. Otherwise …. I was fine with it.
by what_the_crap on Feb 21, 2010 9:38 PM PST up reply actions
I’m glad I watched the USA-Canada hockey game instead of the Kings tonight.
Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"
The only things I can think that that means can't be what that means.
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
lmao
did they show Steve Nash’s reaction on TV when they announced the USA won? He was booing and doing the thumbs down motion. Gotta love Steve Nash…except for when he’s playing the Kings or when he was at Santa Clara.
Omar Minaya is my hero!
They commented on it on the PHO broadcast
funny stuff
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by Kfan in Korea on Feb 21, 2010 8:42 PM PST up reply actions
I watched the 3rd quarter of the hockey game. That last US goal was amazing.
There can only be one Noce!
I don't watch hockey
Can’t follow the puck or whatever it’s called
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
My hockey watching experience comes from The Mighty Ducks movie franchise
and Miracle (ther movie)
There can only be one Noce!
Might Ducks is awesome
I’ve watched D2 too many times
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
I preferred D3.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
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Yeah. LOL
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
The sound effects in D3
Absolutely ruin that movie. The noise when the bugs are released in the dorms comes to mind.
I don't pay that close attention to be honest.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I watched women's curling
and I don’t regret it.
by TheFifthMookie on Feb 21, 2010 10:39 PM PST up reply actions
cans or rollers
yes, I can be a sexist
by betweentheeyes on Feb 22, 2010 12:02 AM PST up reply actions
Did you see the skipper of the team from Great Britain?
and the one from Sweden and Russia? Damned hot!
There can only be one Noce!
on the couples figure skating
this guy was flipping this girl upside down and everything…i was just surprised to see it being done at…you know, The Olympics.
Omar Minaya is my hero!
hahaha
The more ice skating I see, the more I realize that the Will Ferrell movie wasn’t a parody.
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
Just think how much we'd have blown out
If Beno hadn’t been balls off the bench.
Yuck
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
Too many what-ifs in a bball game to focus on any specific one.
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
The 1st half had a lot of good basketball.
It’s just that the 2nd had very little good about it.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I guess I missed it
What was the reason Cisco didn’t play at all?
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
have seen no news yet
about Noc’s dnp either
Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru
by Kfan in Korea on Feb 21, 2010 9:02 PM PST up reply actions
Trade on the works
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
by edm7 on Feb 21, 2010 9:08 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Only you Eddie.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
hypothetically
We can still trade right now as long as they are players who are not going to be free agents or have the ability to opt out right?
There are some guys smarter than me, some guys better looking, I take comfort in the fact that there is no guy that is both.
It is weird and Ed is right on target
Because it is so reminiscent of how they treated the KMart thing…
I was wrong
•When the trading deadline has passed. Teams are free to make trades again once their season has ended, but cannot trade players whose contracts are ending or could end due to an option or ETO.
There are some guys smarter than me, some guys better looking, I take comfort in the fact that there is no guy that is both.
Wow ElRon. That was so well said. I truly am impressed.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
1 in a row...I'm on a streak
There are some guys smarter than me, some guys better looking, I take comfort in the fact that there is no guy that is both.
Yeah it's amazing.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Bode Miller is in the lead in the combine
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
SPOILERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
I could spoil the result for him, but
I will choose not to.
Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru
by Kfan in Korea on Feb 21, 2010 9:15 PM PST up reply actions
Lead, its just a lead
(looks good for some kind of medal though)
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 21, 2010 9:15 PM PST up reply actions
You really know how to tiptoe around a topic
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
nevermind
it might help if I read other comments first
by what_the_crap on Feb 21, 2010 9:15 PM PST up reply actions
Now that Kmart is gone shouldn't the King think about a true PG to play along side?
Otherwise, why did they get rid of Martin? Obviously this would happen in the offseason. And I don’t think Landry is going to be an all-star. He’s solid, but doesn’t address Kings need for interior D and defensive boards. I’m still not sure why they got rid of Martin.
If Marcus Camby was younger
I would REALLY like to have him on my team.
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by Hit4TheCycle on Feb 21, 2010 10:46 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Donte is our 2
I was really really happy to see him get those minutes tonight. Does anyone remember back in December when the kid was playing perimiter D on LeBron and Kobe? Go back and take a look at those Laker games in particular and you’re gonna see Kobe passing up shots. If Donte doesn’t foul out on New Years Day, Kings win that game.
At 6’11" Buckets can’t be shot over by a 2 guard, and he has the quickness foot speed to stay in front of them. He has maybe the shortest leash on the team right now, because his court sense still tends to go out the window when he hits a couple shots. And that short leash is a good thing. But seriously, the guy’s ceiling is ridiculous.
I would love to see him start the rest of the year at 2. Cisco is at his best off the bench even at 100% healthy, and that gives you a 5 man rotation at the 1,2,3 with Beno joining Cisco of the bench. Yeah, I know there are gonna be nights when he craps the bed, but 25-30 mins a night for him seems pretty neccessary at this point (if you think like I do that he is part of our core future).
by Tark Le Shark on Feb 21, 2010 11:51 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
Donte is a multi-positional player.
What position he plays is unimportant. It’s who he plays, and how he performs, that’s important IMO.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Your first comment shark?
I’m impressed, but if you’re going to be articulate you will throw off the system.
Welcome aboard…
by the way we support group think here so you hate Napear, Martin is soft, Reke is sarcastically refered to as NaPG, and many more that you’ll soon think of as your own. Just kidding.
Post away.
There are some guys smarter than me, some guys better looking, I take comfort in the fact that there is no guy that is both.
by ElRonToro on Feb 22, 2010 12:41 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I remember Donte playing D on LeBron and Kobe
Donte has become one of my favorite players. He is so versatile.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
It has to be more than that though.
That’s what people don’t always see.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
And I mean that it's a 2 end game
There are 2 ends to the game of basketball with only 5 guys on it. That means each guy has to be able to do alot on each end for his team to win. That’s easier said than done. Donte, for what he is and isn’t, has shown a great deal of improvement that will likely ensure he gets another contract beyond this one. At some point, though, he simply needs to be consistent on a night in/night out basis. Easier said than done when he’s only 22 though.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
And that is the thing that is so amazing about him...
How many guys can play the 2, 3, 4, or 5 position? I agree that he need to work on his consistency.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Good comment
if Donte’s going to play 2 consistently, he has to spend all summer getting up his 1000 spot up jump shots and then endless dribbling and passing drills. He is immensely talented, but for me, he’s a non-ball handling 3 right now, not a 2, that you put on the best offensive wing of the opposition, regardless of position.
My only issue with him playing 2 is he doesn’t move the ball or have the natural instincts that guys who have played guard their whole life have.
What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.
I think he's best off the bench playing the reserve role and playing a lot of minutes with Beno.
You can mix & match him that way on the defensive matchup causing you trouble and what not.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
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