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Looking on the Bright Side as the Suns Beat the Kings (Again)

J-Rich dunks. Photo by Max Simbron.

The Kings still have massive, often debilitating issues. The ball movement blows. The defensive rebounding is painfully weak. The post defense is disastrous. The three-point shooting is often terrible. The transition defense is generally slow and ineffective. The rotation is completely inconsistent. The pick-and-roll offense is frequently a wasted motion; the pick-and-roll defense is frequently nonexistant.

The good thing? It seems like the players all recognize the team sucks, and no one seems overly full of themselves right now. The vaunted chemistry looks softened by the ongoing slide, with Tyreke Evans facepalming on a couple of occasions Sunday night. But it's frustration, not "omigod do I really have to spend the next three years with these guys?!" Everyone is frustrated, and that's good, given the circumstances. If Evans were content with the losing, focused on the prize (RoY) and the blueprint (max contract in 2013), you'd be worried. But he hates losing. So does Omri Casspi. So do Jason Thompson, Spencer Hawes and Donte Greene. So does Carl Landry. This team is pissed off. And while many of the causes for their lack of success come from within -- Evans moving the ball poorly, the big men rebounding inconsistently -- I get the feeling it won't be like this for long. It will come together.

The Kings hung around, and really had a decent advantage in the game ... until the Suns trotted out a zone defense near the end of the second quarter. That sunk the team's offense. The Kings just had no clue how to penetrate the defense; if nothing else, the second half of the game was good practice in what not to do against a zone. The team settled too often for jumpers off the dribble, and when Evans, Beno Udrih or another guard attempted to pass the ball inside, a turnover was a typical result.

Star-divide

The defense was even more problematic. The big men couldn't keep Robin Lopez, Channing Frye or (of course) Amar'e Stoudemire off the offensive glass. Jason Richardson destroyed Casspi, Grant Hill deked Donte Greene all over the court. Steve Nash was just magical, as he often is. The Kings forced some tough shots in the paint -- some of those offensive rebounds were off Phoenix's bigs' own misses -- and Nash didn't get too many open looks. But those are footnotes from an overall poor defensive performance.

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Dominic McGuire's defense was solid. But his jumper is as bad as advertised, so I think he'll end up getting only restricted minutes. Ime Udoka played good defense (as always) during his stint, but couldn't hit his open shots and got yanked quickly.

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Landry scored well (a team-high 18 points), but shot inefficiently (6-15) and had just six defensive rebounds in 38 minutes. Thompson had seven in 30 minutes, and Hawes ... never mind.

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No more games against the Suns this season! Hurrah!

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Caoching?

Standing around on the three point line waiting for Tyreke to dibble penetrate – or – not is not much of an offense. Let’s all watch and see…then jack a three. Too much one and out.

Rebounding is really about how bad you want it – maybe a little extra motivation from the coaching staff might be in order here.

Defensive effort last time I looked is an every possession thing – not every other one.

Starting to see some bad habits forming in this young group – coaches?

by Hatcreek5 on Feb 22, 2010 6:22 AM PST reply actions  

Do picks work against a zone defense?

Because I have no real recollection of anyone on the Kings setting one.

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.

by andy sims on Feb 22, 2010 6:44 AM PST up reply actions  

The idea behind breaking a zone

is moving the ball to spots between defenders that make them make a decision, and then move the ball quickly to take advantage of any bad decisions. The general rule of thumb is, against man-to-man defense you move people (screens, motion, etc) or isolate, against a zone you move the ball.

JR emphasizes this a lot, if you pass the ball to the free throw line area against most NBA zones, you make a lot of guys make decisions. The two defenders out front and the guy in the middle of the zone all could come guard the ball, depending on who does and what the others do, you move the ball until you get an open shot. The reason people usually associate good shooting with beating zones is, as you move the ball around, the open shot you usually end up with is a jump shot. But its the moving the ball part that beats zones, the shooting part is just the final piece.

Zones are going to be good against us, because they require maturity and quick ball movement to beat them well, two traits that are definitely a work in process for our guys.

What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.

by Grasul on Feb 22, 2010 7:44 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Hawes is our biggest Zone buster ala Brad

and can do just that, operate from the FT line. But he couldn’t stay on the floor from foul trouble.

Clearly no one else knew what to do about it.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Feb 22, 2010 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree Hawes would be good at it

but it takes committment from 5 guys to be real good at beating a zone, and imo we’re a long ways away from doing it well.

What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.

by Grasul on Feb 22, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Hawes

Funny thing IMHO. Hawes is the last throwback to the high post passing Kings of yore and yet he is getting very little run these days. I don’t really know if it is Hawes’ fault that the only king that moves without the ball is Beno Udrih…

The team as it is now is about as frustrating as last years team. Sure the losses are by fewer points but the ball movement is simply awful. I am not saying Hawes should be on the floor for 48 minutes but I don’t understand why JT is getting the start and the minutes at the 5.
 
We got to unclog this drain!

by OrangeLazarus on Feb 22, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't understand the JT over Hawes thing either

but last night Hawes was in foul trouble so it was probably a moot point

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Feb 22, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

It is rebounding

IMO… I think JT is a better rebounder and because of that gets more burn. If Spencer would rebound better he would play more.

by MustangMBS on Feb 22, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Its a trade off

I think the whole offense runs better when Hawes is on the floor leading to more made shots and less of a need for O rebounds . . .

I think he’d get Landry a lot more easy shots than JT can. How often was Landry getting the ball way too far out to make any kind of low post move last night? As far as unclogging the paint he does that better as well from the high post, but it does mean a high post guy will just be in rebounding position a lot less often – at least on the offensive end.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Feb 22, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I like Spencer with Evans and Landry

That way Evans and Landry rebound and have the other teams Center out of the paint. Both can work into the paint to score. Then have JT with Beno off the bench so that Beno can facilitate ball movement and JT gets more rebounds for the team.. Seems this might be more balanced….

by MustangMBS on Feb 22, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

consecutive games scorng less than 90 points

Rebounding is important but you’re also not going to win any games doing that.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Feb 22, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

gotta laugh

      Love the first couple of paragraphs “Z”. No rebounding, no defense, no passing, no nothing, but it is gonna work out. And will all the negatives, I believe it will work out too.
      Just a few points. Is it just me, but how many times do I see JT, Spence, or Landry come down on a semi fast break, get space in the paint and Evans clearly could pass it to them for what seems like a dunk (if it were Nash and Amare no doubt it would be an easy dunk) and they never get the ball and then Evans dribbles some more? Get them the ball.
       I love Donte playing, but not sure if he is the perfect backcourt mate with Evans. For reasons I have stated before, Evans needs his partner to help facilitate the offense, Green is not the guy. Beno is, but I like Beno coming off the bench. I thought Garcia would work, but he may be too rusty?
       Going to the game manana, need a win.

by noreboundsnorings on Feb 22, 2010 7:23 AM PST reply actions  

Reke missed several easy passing opportunities

At one point Omri lost his man in the zone and was cutting right to the rim for an easy easy ally-oop but Reke didn’t recognize it.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Feb 22, 2010 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Flog him for that.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Feb 22, 2010 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Don't go crazy on me

But he hasn’t looked aggressive either scoring or distributing.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Feb 22, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

His assists are up a little bit...give him some credit for that.

But, you are right, he has not looked as aggressive as he did. Bring out that whip!

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Feb 22, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

This is a consistent problem.

Evans always passes either left or right and almost never inside. He gets doubled by the other teams Center and doesn’t pass the now open King’s Center who is going to the rim. It is frustrating to watch…

by MustangMBS on Feb 22, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

He's slow to recognize opportunities right now

no doubt

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Feb 22, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

He's slow to react when the double team comes, too.

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by HighTops on Feb 22, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

It seems to me

that he’s not highly motivated. I mean that he sees no goal in “turning it on”. The reason? I have no idea it may be personal or some internal turmoil he may be experiencing. But for whatever reason, the fire isn’t there.

by madmavmathews on Feb 22, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

It all makes me wonder what the real reason was for trading Martin.

I think Landry is solid, but he doesn’t help with the glaring problems of interior D and defensive boards. Plus, I doubt he’s an all-star, which Martin could have been. Now the Kevin is gone, shouldn’t the Kings get a PG in the off-season? What’s the point of shedding the two non-true pg line-up only to have Reke handle the ball all the time? None of it makes a whole lot of sense to me at the moment.

by amonk81 on Feb 22, 2010 7:26 AM PST reply actions  

Kevin wasn't traded because Tyreke isn't a point guard

Kevin was traded because he wanted out and GP found reasonable value for him (in GP’s opinion). Tyreke is going to have the ball in his hands all the time; by all indications, that’s the plan.

What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.

by Grasul on Feb 22, 2010 7:36 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

We will need to see what happens

this summer to know if the deal will be better for us. We are definitely worse off in the short term. I’m I the only one that is kind of freaking out about GP having some spending money this summer? He is one of the best talent evaluators, but if there is any knock, it is some of the contracts.

If I ever meet Bonzi, I will thank him for turning down that contract offer.

by markdog333 on Feb 22, 2010 7:54 AM PST up reply actions  

I think GP's reutation along those lines is understandable

but a little overblown. When he was giving out those contracts, the team was in a lot different situation financially and on the floor.

Did he make some bad decisions? definitely, but I’m not too worried about him having some cash available to work with. If anything, I’m a little worried what the reaction’s going to be if he doesn’t spend any money other then on roster fill this summer, which I think is possible.

What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.

by Grasul on Feb 22, 2010 8:01 AM PST up reply actions  

True

in fact I read somewhere (maybe here??) that we might be better served holding off on a free agent splurge, assuming LJ, Wade and Bosh don’t want to come here of course. We would have the space to absorb someone else’s bad contract in exchange for a quality young player, or an early draft pick.

I worry, in the meantime, that would affect arena proposals. Damn…I worry too much. That’s it, i’m just going to enjoy watching these young guys play.

by markdog333 on Feb 22, 2010 8:23 AM PST up reply actions  

That's what I'd like to see us do

presuming the elite sign elsewhere, be very careful and spend our available cash on finding more young guys to add to the core of the team. I don’t know if that’s very saleable to ticket buyers and potential arena stakeholders though.

What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.

by Grasul on Feb 22, 2010 8:38 AM PST up reply actions  

does petrie have to overpay to get people to come to or stay in sac?

beno, bibby, cisco perhaps, moore defintely, shareef, miller, can’t blame him for noc’s, but then he did get salmons for a reasonable price, i wonder if petrie has to overpay to get free agents to stay or come to sac. If so, i would hope he does not overpay this coming off season just to do something.

by dumbkingsfan on Feb 22, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't think he does

Money’s always been important of course, but I don’t think the laser beam focus on it that we have today existed for Petrie when he was signing most of those contracts.

Other than the “aging veteran looking for a ring” guys, the vast majority of players go where the contract money is.

What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.

by Grasul on Feb 22, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Bonzi is probably still kicking himself for turning down that contract.

He and Kenny Thomas could have been best buddies.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Feb 22, 2010 8:33 AM PST up reply actions  

The NBA and the Kings are commodities, that have to be sold.

The Maloofs are relying of Evans to be their star and sell tickets. As such, I agree with Scott Howard-Coopers’ article on NBA.com, that with Martin gone Evans is free to take over the scoring lead on the Kings and assure his ROY title. Then the talk next year will be see the ROY and our high draft pick whoever that will be, lead the Kings into the playoffs. Whether that happens or not, that will be the sales pitch.

There are too many senarios with the upcoming draft and FA signing period coming up. But, what is obvious is that there won’t be enough money under the new CBA, to pay but a few stars on every team. If your going to pay big money, you going to pay it to players with complete games, and Martin was alway a one-trick pony.

With Tyreke you can play him along side a defensive SG with 3pt skill like Christie was or like Cisco if he returns to form. Or, you can move Tyreke to the SG and let him play along side a combo guard like Beno, who can run the pick & roll or shot from outside, and who will give up the ball. Whatever type player you put next to Tyreke, he doesn’t need to be paid star money like Martin was going to get.

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by HighTops on Feb 22, 2010 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Just more Scoop being, umm, Scoop.

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by pookeyguru on Feb 22, 2010 5:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for the link, Pookey

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
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by HighTops on Feb 22, 2010 6:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Well I don't think Landry was the problem today

It was the perimeter guys that really killed us from Phoenix more than Amar’e (although he once again beasted the boards).

On to Tuesday, thank God we don’t have to play the Suns again this season.

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by Aykis16 on Feb 22, 2010 7:47 AM PST reply actions  

The Kings still have massive, often debilitating issues. The ball movement blows. The defensive rebounding is painfully weak. The post defense is disastrous. The three-point shooting is often terrible. The transition defense is generally slow and ineffective. The rotation is completely inconsistent. The pick-and-roll offense is frequently a wasted motion; the pick-and-roll defense is frequently nonexistant.

No, tell us how you really feel.

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by iashwash on Feb 22, 2010 8:19 AM PST reply actions  

Huh?
Evans, Beno Udrih or another guard

Who else do we have who is a legitimate guard?

Maybe (maybe!) Garcia.

And when you talk about our ball movement blowing, I believe that issue can be laid squarely at the feet of Evans. When your Alpha dog decides to keep the ball in his hands too much, everyone else decides that once they touch the ball, they’re going to hang on to it, because who knows when they’re going to see it again.

Evans may eventually become a play maker. But I’m not seeing it happen any time soon because he doesn’t seem to have the desire to become one.

Maybe once he’s fulfilled the blueprint’s ROY plan…?

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by LeaguePassAddict on Feb 22, 2010 8:47 AM PST reply actions  

A couple of weeks ago I thought Evans had a few good games

where he looked to be getting everyone involved, but you’re right its gotten worse again. The fact is, there’s only one guy on the team that gets the ball and is looking to make a play for someone else more than occasionally and that’s Hawes.

Evans mostly, but Casspi, Noc and Donte share a fair amount of the blame too.

What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.

by Grasul on Feb 22, 2010 9:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Sounds to me LPA

that it is a team problem more than just being solely on Tyreke. If the team feels Tyreke is a black hole then there is no reason not to pass it to another teammate not named Tyreke. It sounds like there is a lot of selfishness to go around. The difference I think is Tyreke can score the ball almost anytime he wants the other players not so much. I do see your point about Tyreke & his playmaking though. I don’t think he will ever be Nash but if you look at the type of players he is molded after Wade,L23, & Joe Johnson I believe all 3 lead their team in assists.

I love beating dead horses.

by allbenji's on Feb 22, 2010 9:10 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Disagree

Tyreke cannot score the ball almost any time he wants to. He can’t penetrate a zone, he often dribbles into double teams and turns it over, and his outside shooting is, shall we say, suspect?

The way I see it, we went from having a pretty deep back court with Evans, Beno, Sergio and Martin, to having no depth at either position.

And can we finally agree that if Tyreke is “molded after Wade, LeBron and Joe Johnson” that he may manage to rack up a fair number of assists (because he’s always got the ball in his hands) but he is not a point guard?

The last thing we need is another player like him (sorry, John Wall fans). What we desperately need is a playmaker. And as well as Beno’s playing this year, he’s not it.

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by LeaguePassAddict on Feb 22, 2010 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't watch a lot of college ball

So I don’t know Wall’s game. What kind of gaurd would you want next to Tyreke? A playmaking “true” point? A combo gaurd? Scoring gaurd? Maybe you have an idea of a certain name that would fit? I personally am stumped. I honestly thought Kevin would be perfect. I don’t see how you can take the ball out of Tyreke’s hands so what do we do?

I love beating dead horses.

by allbenji's on Feb 22, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

I'd been thinking about the same thing

what kind of guard should play beside Tyreke? I think Garcia could be good if he really gets his shot going & plays good D. Beno was doin ok (shooting not D). I kinda like Scottie Reynolds outta Villanova (in the second round-I’m not ga ga for Wall, especially next to Tyreke). He’s a scoring PG. Good size, good D, not great on assists/to’s but if Tyreke has the ball in his hands mainly -the thing I think Reynolds can do is score/shoot. He’s got a scoring/shooting knack and seems like a winner and a leader. Not considering free agents, etc. -drafting a big in the first rd. (Cousins, Favors please) and Reynolds in the second rd. could be good additions.

by busybe on Feb 22, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I know you were asking LPA but thought I'd give my idea.

Reynolds may not be the great playmaker LPA wants, but he’s doing pretty good running Villanova this year. Add to that his knack for making shots and I think he, or his type, would be a good fit.

by busybe on Feb 22, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

What we do is chill.

Tyreke is a rookie! He will only get better and better. He sees the floor well, he has a great handle, he can penetrate, he finishes, and he will dish more and more.

The reason he is limited is because his jump shot sucks right now, but once that comes around (which it will), he will be almost unguardable. That will open up everyone else’s game as well, because most likely he will demand a double team and he can dish to the open man.

Trust me, Westphal sees all this. He knows what he’s doing.

by rico 59 on Feb 22, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed.
Tyreke cannot score the ball almost any time he wants to. He can’t penetrate a zone, he often dribbles into double teams and turns it over, and his outside shooting is, shall we say, suspect?

We certainly saw our offense come to a standstill last night. Tyreke appeared frustrated and his post-game words appear to echo that. We haven’t seen a problem with out offense in quite some time.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Feb 22, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Needing another facilitator on the court with him

at least for a lot of minutes, is why Hawes needs to be out there when Beno is not.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Feb 22, 2010 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

I wasn't able to physically see the game only able to see

the gamecast on espn.com so this is more of a question than a comment. I hear a lot about Tyreke not moving the ball but just looking at the boxscore I noticed he only took 13 shots I believe. 2 of those were in the last 2 minutes when the game was already out of reach. Does he look tired out there? What do you think is the reason our “star” & leading scorer is only taking 13 shots in a game? Shouldn’t he be taking atleast 18 if not more? As much as I hear about Amare’s poor defense I thought for sure Tyreke would have a huge scoring game.

I love beating dead horses.

by allbenji's on Feb 22, 2010 8:54 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

He didn't look as good as he usually does...

As for tired? I don’t know how to quantify that. I will say, I kept waiting for him to pick up the pace and begin to aggressively make more plays for himself, as we have been accustomed to seeing. In Ailene Voison’s article this morning, he described the game as being,“…tough, all these changes. We got guys crowding the paint.” So, I think he may have felt some frustration dealing with the situation last night. He did take a couple of shots in the last two minutes, perhaps thinking of his ROY stats. lol

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Feb 22, 2010 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, I noticed that Ailene Voisin brought out her poison pen this morning...

As those of you who read the Bee know, the story begins with a picture of Tyreke being dunked upon by Phoenix’s Jason Richardson. That sets the tone for her “Phoenix’s dirt-in-the-face” game to the Kings piece. Her words for the team, “They just weren’t very good.” Can’t really disagree with her there. She had a lot of words of approval for Nash, though, who “eviscerated” the Kings all the while suffering from his “sore lower back.” In fact, about one-third of the article sang the merits of Steve Nash. She described Westphal’s players offensively as resembling “a pickup squad instead of an NBA team” with “shots hurried…rebounds stolen…offensive ineptness.” Other than “Landry is impressive,” there were no good words for the Kings this morning. You’d think she was a writer for the Phoenix Suns Times, from this piece. But no, we are the “fortunate” recipients of her poison pen.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Feb 22, 2010 9:03 AM PST reply actions  

She thinks Steve Nash is hot

and, well, he is good, so its a good combo to produce a column for her.

Sadly, I’m not kidding.

What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.

by Grasul on Feb 22, 2010 9:05 AM PST up reply actions  

You know S_D her bitterness for the Kings not drafting Rubio

will never go away until Tyreke averages 9pts, 3reb, & 15 ast a game.

I love beating dead horses.

by allbenji's on Feb 22, 2010 9:14 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I wonder if she will ever get over Rubio.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Feb 22, 2010 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

I've never been convinced Rubio was coming over even if he went earlier

6 million dollar is six million dollars is $6,000,000. The rookie scale Money will still be waiting for him if he ever does come.
I never understood why everyone thinks the big FA’s almost never move because thier home team can pay them 10%more and at the same time thought he would play two years for free.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Feb 22, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

She should watch NBA TV

The have FC Barcelona games on every Saturday or so it seems. The kid can’t shoot but can pass. Sergio Rodriguez could pass too…

As much as I wanted to see Ricky in a Kings hat on draft day, we got the better player.

by OrangeLazarus on Feb 22, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Moves

Call me crazy but I would revisit the Dalembert talks this offseason. I like Landry a lot but it’s already pretty clear to me that he will be best with a big defender/rebounder. I believe that if we could do a Noc for Dalembert trade we’d still have some cap space left for another piece plus if it doesn’t work we’d have Dalembert’s expiring contract. I just don’t see a Landry/Thompson or Landry/Hawes front court working.

by M_Shady on Feb 22, 2010 9:46 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Call me crazy

The off-season is a ways off. Can’t the trade talk wait a little while.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Feb 22, 2010 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

As much as a lot of us would love to stop talking about trading,aquiring free agents, & the draft

I don’t think it will stop as long as this team has major needs & keeps losing. Remember the good ol days(last season) when most of us thought our biggest need was point gaurd? Now it’s PG or SG or both depending on your opinion of Tyreke as a PG, PF, & Center.

I love beating dead horses.

by allbenji's on Feb 22, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

I know my post won't stop the talk

I would hope that the impulsive, “got a great idea” posts would be on an asinine thread. We just get Landry, he’s had two games and already there is the, “I just don’t see a Landry/Thompson or Landry/Hawes front court working.” How can anyone take any idea of a proposed trade seriously after assessing how players work together after two games? There needs to be a place for these off-the-wall ideas to be bounced around by those who appreciate them.

If someone has what they think is a well-thought out idea, present it as a fan post with their rationale. Otherwise it is just flinging mud against a wall to see if it sticks. Just my opinion.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Feb 22, 2010 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I had planned to discontinue the Asinine thread until mid-March at least

We’ll see how it goes but I think its way too early.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
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by lietothegirls on Feb 22, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe ...

But I’ve noticed that a number of people can’t seem to control their impulse to get their asinine ideas out onto a thread. I think it must be some kind of sickness. They are going through asinine-thread withdrawal. They need to go on the 12-step program.

Oh and by the way, I think D Wade would be a great complement to Tyreke. I wonder if Petrie could swing that?

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by Slam_Dunk on Feb 22, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Why D-Wade?

I’m not disagreeing I’m just interested in your reasoning because as I’ve said earlier I have no idea who should play with Reke. I don’t think Wade would leave Miami for Sac unless Gabrielle Union’s immediate family resided here. Chicago(home town) maybe.

I love beating dead horses.

by allbenji's on Feb 22, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Basically, I was joking!

I don’t think Wade would leave Miami for Sacramento. I see a lot of similarities between Tyreke and D-Wade. I think they would play very well together, just like people who think Wade and Lebron would be a good duo.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Feb 22, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Really??

OK let’s start with this point. I’m far from suggesting we get Wade. Instead I brought up a deal that is essentially the same as a deal that was reported to be discussed. But I can see how you can compare that to suggesting that we get Wade…

Second… So you don’t want to talk trades? I guess I missed the rule saying you can’t look at what a team might do down the road. What else do we have to go over exactly? Is it better to over analyze every game?? I’d rather look at this team and look towards the future.

And I’m sure the next comment will be that I’m over analyzing just 2 games by saying Landry isn’t ideal with Thompson or Hawes? And that would be true if the 3 players had played only 2 games in their careers. I’ve seen all 3 players play a lot and I’m not knocking any of them by saying they don’t complement each other well. I just think each of them is best suited playing with a Dalembert/Okafor type. Sorry I didn’t write out a full statistical analysis of my point but I didn’t think commenting on a previously reported trade was “flinging mud against a wall.” But to keep the self appointed comment police happy I will no longer bring up such items in a post game thread.

Sorry I probably should just leave well enough alone but when someone calls your idea asinine without an accurate and relevant counter argument it’s hard to just let it go.

by M_Shady on Feb 22, 2010 3:29 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I am not the self-appointed police on here, far from it

From lttg, there will be an asinine thread back in mid-March. I am just one individual who appreciates that there is generally a separate thread for the trades. I didn’t realize that the trade thread is not currently in effect. Accept my apology for being so blunt about it.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Feb 22, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I just don't think it makes sense for a while

It would be truly asinine this early before the lottery, before we see how some of the other teams do who have players we might want to steal.

But if too many ideas start hyjacking other threads we’ll put it back in. A few here and there are OK.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
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by lietothegirls on Feb 22, 2010 9:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Rookie of the Year Slipping Away?

Stephen Curry’s stats the last 5 games:
42 minutes, 23.2 points, 9.2 assists, 8.2 rebounds, 2.2 steals, 5.6 turnovers, 50.5 FG%, 39 3-pt%, 94.4 FT%.

Wow. Let’s hope Tyreke can hang on in the next month and a half.

Kings rule! (They are royalty - right?)

by dalt99 on Feb 22, 2010 9:50 AM PST reply actions  

Stephen Curry also got 32 points yesterday

Perhaps you are including that in your stats.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Feb 22, 2010 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

slipping away?

its leaving at the crest of a gigantic wave moving 60 mph.

What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.

by Grasul on Feb 22, 2010 10:02 AM PST up reply actions  

yep

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Feb 22, 2010 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

warriors system better for curry

it helps that nellie’s no system system works for curry, and even better for him that ellis has been out a bit. tyreke, on the other hand, has struggled with the kings’ no system system.

by dumbkingsfan on Feb 22, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

I've watched a number of Warriors games recently

and all I will say is, I don’t care what the system is or anything else. For the last month watching Stephen Curry play has been a pleasure and he has been playing at the highest level of any rookie that I see play regularly.

That doesn’t mean I’d rather have him than Tyreke, or anything like that, but Curry has been phenomenal recently, and Tyreke has struggled a little, compared to the lofty expectations he created.

What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.

by Grasul on Feb 22, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm jealous!

How dare Curry play so well. Damn him! Doesn’t he know that he is upsetting the apple cart?

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Feb 22, 2010 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree on Curry

and think that though his numbers are a bit exaggerated in the GS system he’s been playing Balls. They’re not Monta exaggerated, Curry will be better than him.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Feb 22, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Hasn't Curry's minutes gone way up recently

With Monta out I thought Curry’s minutes have gone up. Seems he didn’t play a lot and because of that hasn’t hit the rookie wall. He is probably less tired than Evans given that and will probably finish the year strong.

by MustangMBS on Feb 22, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

That system doesn't exactly call for to bang much on D

or take contact like Tyreke does, but he’s averaging 35 minutes and Tyreke 37 so not a huge difference

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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Feb 22, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

and his owners

aren’t running him to Vegas on off days to meet the President . . . .

Same kind of crap is going on with Omri. Every night is Jewish Heritage night on the road and its wiping him out….(yes, last night in PHX again)

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Feb 22, 2010 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah! I was wondering if Omri is just tired from all the attention he has been receiving.

Perhaps Tyreke is hitting the rookie wall, but just doesn’t know it.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Feb 22, 2010 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Meeting the President is "some kind of crap?"

Regardless of your politics, this is an astounding honor. I’d pass on the rookie-soph game before I passed on meeting the President – any of them.

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by section214 on Feb 22, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I was talking of too many distractions

And I said said ‘same kind of crap’. I too would have flown to meet the President (well, this one, not the last one) but they both need to take more time to recharge and back off on the off the court stuff.
Is it going to be Jewish heritage night at 29 road arenas every year in the league? That wouldn’t be good, I want Omri to succeed and it worries me.

I hope this stuff passes once the novelty has worn off next season and they can concentrate on basketball.

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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
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by lietothegirls on Feb 22, 2010 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

It'll never pass lttg.

It’s just one of the many things that players have to balance when they make it to the NBA.

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by pookeyguru on Feb 22, 2010 5:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree as well

Curry is going to be a great player. The kid is cool as a cucumber, great distributor and great shooter. He’ll be an all star for many, many years, barring injury.

Plus he seems to be a great kid, with his head on right.

by rico 59 on Feb 22, 2010 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

at least she told the truth

the kings did suck last nite and she was at least honestly reporting it rather than covering it up like some might and have. The team is frustrated and Westfall needs to find a way to get his young team past this hurdle or else all the early promise becomes poisoned by the continuous losing. Obviously, we can’t blame kevin martin for these last two losses.

by dumbkingsfan on Feb 22, 2010 10:16 AM PST reply actions  

Can we imagine what the score would have been?

If Beno hadn’t come in played balls out with his 17 on 7-9 shooting and 5 assists?
(4 rebounds 1 TO)
oooooooooh

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Feb 22, 2010 10:36 AM PST reply actions  

Poor Beno...

He got little fanfare for a good game last night. Thank goodness for that, since the rest of the team, other than Landry, didn’t fare too well.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Feb 22, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Not even an atta boy from TZ

and he’s really the only guy who I think actually played well last night.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Feb 22, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Evans continued...

       It would be interesting to do some research on the ype of guard Evans is and who should be his side kick. Evans will never be assist god like Nash or Paul nor do we need him to be. He is a player who have the ball in his hands a lot like Wade or Joe Johnson.
       If you look at these type of point guards they all have backcourt mates who can shoot the 3 and can help facilitate the offense. JJ has Bibby, Kobe has Fisher, Lebron has Mo Williams. Their backcourt mates do not put huge assist numbers and they do not need to.
        I guess my point is that in order for Evans to be player we all want him to be and the superstar he can become, he needs that complimentery backcourt mate.

by noreboundsnorings on Feb 22, 2010 11:13 AM PST reply actions  

I think a player

in the mold of Bibby or Fisher (not those guys specifically of course) makes a lot of sense. Which is why I’m cautiously hopeful Cisco could hold down the fort a couple of years at that spot.

What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.

by Grasul on Feb 22, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Scottie Reynolds of Villanova? Second round of course.

Just commented above about how he seems like a guy that provides what you think Tyreke needs beside him, and I agree. He shoots the 3 and facilitates the 3rd-ish ranked ncaa team well. There’s just not many guards in the draft so far that seem to be a fit.

by busybe on Feb 22, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Evans backcourt mate now or in the future?

Evans has flaws now, long range shooting and court vision and ability to make the necessary entry pass. So, he has weaknesses as a PG and as a SG. Which of these weaknesses will he be able to overcome in the future? If he perfects his long range shooting, he’ll move to the SG and we’ll need a PG. IF he develops his passing and court vision, he’ll be the PG and will need a defensive SG who can hit the 3’s. If he can become a complete player and develops all the skills, he can play with almost any combo guard.

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by HighTops on Feb 22, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Sorry HT

I don’t agree. I think Tyreke does see the court well and is already a decent passer. His interioir passing stinks because we usually have zero spacing. He over dribbles because he lacks confidence in his outside shot. Once he has that he will be almost unstoppable.

I think he is a PG, because he needs the ball in his hands to be most effective.

by rico 59 on Feb 22, 2010 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm going with HT here

He either doesn’t see the court that well yet or he doesn’t have the confidence to make the quick timely pass.
No question he needs to work on his shot, my wife knows that.

Lets not over judge him yet though, he IS just a rookie.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
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- and teach them how to war!
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by lietothegirls on Feb 22, 2010 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

That your opinion, fine

rewatch the Sun’s game, entry pass to Landry thrown out of bound, pass thrown to ref for turn over, Nash and Amare double Evans as Hawes cuts to basket, and no entry pass to Hawes, Evans dribbles ball at left sideline as 2nd player leaves paint to double and Evans allows the double team to arrive and doesn’t pass the ball. There are plenty more example where players get open and Evans doesn’t make the pass, Casspi for one last night.

Evans was always the go to guy and never had to make plays, he has limited experience being a playmaking PG, and to be frank, it’s still not guaranteed that his real future isn’t at SG which might be why the FO decided to move Martin.

If I ran the FO, and my only concern was to develop Evans in to the PG of the future, I’d continue playing the way we have all year. If I was concerned about winning more games, I’d have made the Martin trade, move Beno to the starting PG and Evans to starting SG, then I waive someone and pick up another backup guard. The Kings are going to do the first and wait to see if Evans can develop true PG skills.

I have noticed more movement on the weakside, in the last few games, which is a good sign that maybe the coaching staff is trying to create more opportunities for Evans to make plays without scoring.

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by HighTops on Feb 22, 2010 5:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Well that's a questionable statement, to be sure!
I think he is a PG, because he needs the ball in his hands to be most effective.

So does Kobe. NaPG. LeBron- NaPG. Dwight Howard- NaPG. Gerald Wallace…

You get my point.

Being able to create your own shot doesn’t make you a point guard. Being able to be a floor general and make plays for your teammates does.

Steve Nash- PG who racked up more assists Sunday night than our entire team. Chris Paul. Deron Williams. Even Beno and Bibby.

And if Tyreke sees the court so well, then why is he always dribbling into double and triple teams and not finding the (at least two!) open shooters?

I’ll grant that he’s a rookie and might improve in this area, but so far I haven’t seen him show any desire to improve there, nor have I seen the coaching staff try to make him improve in that area.

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by LeaguePassAddict on Feb 23, 2010 7:34 AM PST up reply actions  

From TZ above
This team is pissed off. And while many of the causes for their lack of success come from within — Evans moving the ball poorly, the big men rebounding inconsistently — I get the feeling it won’t be like this for long. It will come together.

Hopefully a nice game tomorrow night against Detroit will get things on track. I hope so, Wifey and I will be there and she’s pissed about trading Martin. I’ll never hear the end of it if Landry doesn’t play well

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Feb 22, 2010 11:28 AM PST reply actions  

Detroit

just what the doctor ordered(hopefully)

I love beating dead horses.

by allbenji's on Feb 22, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Are they really that pissed off?

Whats the definition to insanity, doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result

PHX kicked the Kings arse in Sacramento, and last night it was like a scrimmage for the PHX bigs, I didn’t see to much in the way of action by the Kings bigs or any of the other players.

by Murf on Feb 22, 2010 12:32 PM PST reply actions  

In agreement

There is a lot of BB knowledge on this forum. It was pointed out that lack of ball movement on offense is one of the major problems. Tyreke is going to be a great player one of these days but first he has to develop a way to score besides going to the basket for a lay-in. Teams are now looking for that and plugging up the middle. TE needs a pull-up jump shot and to work on his outside shot. He has to find the open man and quit the dribble, dribble, dribble. If you watch him, he walks the ball up the court and by the time he gets into an offensive mode the shot clock is at 15 or less. The lack of scoring is due to the fact that the other players are standing around waiting for TE to do something. He may get his 20 points but no one else gets a chance to contribute. The best passer on the team is Hawes and he only played 11 minutes last night. Thompson should come off the bench and quit whining and commiting dumb fouls. After all is said and done the fault for the lack of offense and scoring sits in the lap of the coach. He can’t fault Tyreke at all. He should get on his case and tell him to push the ball up the court and find the open man……

by Bill2 on Feb 22, 2010 12:54 PM PST reply actions  

Welcome Bill

Use that reply button so we know who/what you’re responding to and a few breaks would help as well.
 Reasonable points there.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Feb 22, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Martin

I almost forgot….all you Martin bashers….he didn’t cause last nights drubbing. They shouldn’t have traded him…..

by Bill2 on Feb 22, 2010 12:56 PM PST reply actions  

Don't even start

with the Kmart talk – you’re joking right?

Kmart brought his difference-making play to Rockets over the w/end, shooting 30% and “helping” Rockets to a pair of defeats.

Kings now have hole at the 2, just like before the trade, but that hole doesn’t cost $11MM/year

by Watty4ever on Feb 22, 2010 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

you're an idiot

you’ve been throwing this crap in every thread and its stupid every time.

What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.

by Grasul on Feb 22, 2010 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey we're trying to be nicer around here!

I’d go with
 ‘I respectfully think you’re full of shit’

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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Feb 22, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Respectfully is stupid. Which naturally Watty, by virtue of his comments here, qualifies as.

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

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by pookeyguru on Feb 22, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Nah, I go with "I (disrespectfully) think he sucks!" :)

I mean to say let’s not bring up KMart and then proceed to trash him is ironic/moronic… Interesting that iRONIC and moRONIC are so closely spelled. I guess his comment was i/moRONIC. Yeah that is it, IMORONIC.

by MustangMBS on Feb 22, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Imoronic. I like it MBS.

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16

by pookeyguru on Feb 22, 2010 5:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Is it 2011-12?

Because that is when Martin will eclipse the $11 million mark.

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by section214 on Feb 22, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Tyreke and another passer..

Yes, the Kings need another ball handler and passer out with Reke. But, what about Hawes, and even Thompson to a lesser degree, getting utilized as passers? PW is attempting to figure out what he’s got in this squad, but why not tweak the O to fit the talent? How comes Hawes can’t play the high post more, like Miller and Vlade? It’s all very frustrating, and I look forward to a time when I don’t feel like we lost Martin only to get worse. Petrie has to work some magic now.

by amonk81 on Feb 22, 2010 3:58 PM PST reply actions  

if only thompson were a good ball handler...

he might have made that bounce pass the other night in overtime to win the game,…
he might catch passes to him cleanly and take it to the rim, instead of fumbling them all too often…
he might avoid all those turnovers….

sorry, i do not agree it would be a good idea to run the offense thru JT.

by dumbkingsfan on Feb 22, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

JT is a good ball handler

He just makes dumb decisions.

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

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by pookeyguru on Feb 22, 2010 5:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll agree with that

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by HighTops on Feb 22, 2010 6:32 PM PST up reply actions  

If you mean someone other than Evans to create or initiate the offense, I agree.

But, JT is hardly the guy you want. Why did Hawes play 11 minutes? I have no clue. PW played Dorsey early in the Clipper game for Hawes, and PW played McGuire 18:33 in the Suns game. McGuire scored 0 points, but then Ime played 14 minutes and had 0 pts also.

I’m guessing that PW is more concerned about defense than offense. And, he’s more concerned about improving the performance of the team, than dare I say winning games. At least he isn’t willing to play his best offensive players over playing poor defense. And, one might guess with the trade of their best scorer, that is the opinion of the FO also.

Unfortuneately, with Cisco not suited for the game (which begs the question, is his hand still hurting after the Clips game injury), Tyreke and Beno are the only real playmakers on the team. Spencer is a passer but he can’t create openings, it’s up to the other players to get open for him to make a play.

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by HighTops on Feb 22, 2010 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Hawes had 5 fouls

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Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
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by lietothegirls on Feb 22, 2010 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, 2 quick fouls in the 3rd and 3 in 8minutes in the 2nd

But, McGuire started the 4th for 2 minutes. Came back in at the 7 min mark for JT and played 5 minutes. Hawes never returned, and sat out the 4th on the bench with 1 foul to give.

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by HighTops on Feb 22, 2010 5:29 PM PST up reply actions  

IMO

I think Tyreke needs to be paired with a Guard (point or otherwise) that can knock down open shots on the regular and plays strong D. A guy that doesn’t need the ball in his hands too often but is available and reliable for spot up 3’s. Personally I think a Luke Ridnour type would be perfect.

by Devastation Co. MMA on Feb 22, 2010 4:45 PM PST reply actions  

Personally I think a Luke Ridnour type would be perfect.

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