Shallow Depth
by section214 on Feb 23, 2010 12:17 PM PST
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Born out of the thread from TZ's most recent post, I ask the following of you: post your starting lineup and three-man bench rotation in the the thread here. It will be interesting to see how many versions are created. Please save your commentary about the Kings coaching staff's "strategy" for the other thread - what we want to see here are your ideas.
On your mark, get set, create!
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My Lineup
Starting:
Reke
Donte
Casspi
JT
Spence
Bench:
Landry
Beno
Cisco
Brock
Dorsey
No PT period:
Noc
Udoka
Maguire
Mine
Hawes
Landry
Casspi
Greene
Evans
Thompson
Udrih
Garcia
I could easily be talked into flipping Greene and Udrih.
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by section214 on Feb 23, 2010 12:27 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
+1
I know I’m not the only one who thinks we need more size behind Spencer. JT could be a really good backup center. and if Landry is who we got for giving up Speed. I would want to give him starting minutes if he’s a potential future all-star. Starting both Thompson and Hawes leaves us with an undersized bench
Wherever I go, destruction will follow - Professor Chaos
That's my lineup as well.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
I would go for this, but with the switch you mention
I would switch Udrih and Greene….
First rotation: (5)Hawes, (4)Landry, (3)Casspi, (2)Udrih, and (1)Evans
Second rotation: (5)Thompson, (4)Donte’,and (3/2/1) Garcia
Same
Landry, Thompson, Hawes make up the 3 man rotation at 4 and 5.
Use Garcia and Beno to insert some veteran stability depending on which one of the boys is having a Nation Basketball Adolescence meltdown at the moment.
Use Brock/Dorsey as foul sponges, tell Noc that we are just resting him for the playoffs. Whatever year that may be. Give the others pom poms.
by Tark Le Shark on Feb 23, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions
Spencer has "role confusion"
Thinks the team values his shooting skills to the exclusion of defense.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
You like Landry off the bench as a tactic?
Or simply because of the SMOY race?
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Regardless if Landry starts or comes off the bench
Because he played most of this games this season off the bench, he is still eligible to the SMOY, even if he starts the rest of the season.
the Bene Gesserit rite.
"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain."
Frank Herbert, Dune
by SeattleRoyalty on Feb 23, 2010 2:25 PM PST up reply actions
He's eligible
But the voters won’t vote for him if he’s been starting all his Kings games. Just a fact.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
+1
not because of SMOY, but because we need production off the bench from our bigs.
by VenomySnicket on Feb 23, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions
I'm with you Vfettke-
Any line-up without Jason Thompson and his rebounding is a no go for me. I really don’t care who is the #2 big, I prefer Hawes but Landry is fine as long as he is just a place holder until the draft or FA. PF’s and C’s who average less than 6 rebounds a game are bench players IMO. I think starting Spencer and telling him that if he doesn’t focus on rebounding he won’t make it out of the first three minutes of the game might light a fire under the kid. Between Hawes and Landry, Spencer has the size to be a better rebounder while Landry has the potential to be the best bench scoring big in the game. If the Kings go into next year with just these three guys then something has gone horribly wrong.
I may be a homer for JT but it’s because I think he fits with just about any body that the Kings might bring in. Thompson can play either PF or add 15 lbs in the off-season and play C. Is he a perfect player today? No, but he has crucial tools like rebounding and strength that shine through even during the rough patches that the other two player do not.
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Hawes(30) JT (32) Casspi (36) Garcia (20) Evans (36)
Udrih (28) Landry (34) Greene (24)
Minutes included for extra credit
There are some guys smarter than me, some guys better looking, I take comfort in the fact that there is no guy that is both.
this is what I would do
I like Garcia over Donte in the starting lineup for ballhandling and to have another “move the ball around” veteran on the floor with our core guys.
I don’t like having 4 players (Evans, Casspi, Donte, Landry) on the floor at the same time that all are going to catch the ball and try to beat their guy one-on-one as their first instinct, especially given how young they all are.
What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.
Honestly
At this point, I don’t care so much about starters/bench (since we should be in development mode versus winning mode), but if you had to pin me down the starters would be:
Reke
Garcia
Casspi
Landry
Hawes
Off the bench – JT, Beno, Donté, Brockman/Dorsey (if necessary)
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
Honestly
Tyreke
Chapu
Chapu
Chapu
Chapu
Off the Bench – Dom, Larry, Beno
"Oh, y ahora ¿quién podrá defenderme?" "¡Yo!"
by chapuforyou on Feb 23, 2010 12:33 PM PST reply actions 8 recs
Sounds solid!
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
A little weak at PG
since he’s more of a combo guard.
"Oh, y ahora ¿quién podrá defenderme?" "¡Yo!"
by chapuforyou on Feb 23, 2010 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
man...
thats like’s like 12 years probation from your starting lineup
Phil Jackson, after treatment for a kidney stone "When the anesthesiologist leaned over me, he said "We named your kidney stone Kobe because it's not passing."
by Ellimist on Feb 23, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions 15 recs
Comment of the week?
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
Donté'd
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Echo
"Thou must give props" - Ice_9ine
by tomroadrunner on Feb 23, 2010 1:05 PM PST up reply actions
especially one that'll drive anywhere, no questions asked.
"Oh, y ahora ¿quién podrá defenderme?" "¡Yo!"
Tried to make this without looking at others' comments...
Starting 5:
1/2: Beno
1/2: Tyreke
3: Donte
4: Landry
5: Hawes
Bench
JT
Omri
Udoka
The NBA: "Where 27 free throws happens"
Pg beno
Sg rekeROY
sf omri
Pf thompson
C hawes
Bench
Donte
Landry
Garcia
I think u stop bs’n and jus call a spade a spade.. Reke isn’t a pg.. He’s a scorer…
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
by Eddie Gonzalez on Feb 23, 2010 12:34 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Here ya go:
C – Hawes
PF – Landry
SF – Casspi
PG – Evans
SG – Greene
My three guys off the bench are Thompson, Udrih, and depending what you need Brockman/Garcia.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
Rotation
C Hawes
PF Landry
SF Casspi
SG Beno
PG Evans
Bench: Thompson, Greene, Garcia
by Nick the Quick on Feb 23, 2010 12:37 PM PST reply actions
OK
Tyreke
Casspi
Donte’
Landry
Hawes
Beno
JT
Garcia
Muscle (Dorsey at the moment)
Switch out Beno with Donte’ or Casspi for matchup reasons as needed.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
all 3 of my main guys off the bench can play two positions
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 23, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions
Based on Stats
PG-Beno
SG-Tyreke
SF-Casspi
PF-Greene
C-Hawes
Bench: JT, Landry, Cisco
Kings rule! (They are royalty - right?)
However
I personally would LOVE to see:
PG-Evans
SG-Cisco
SF-Greene
PF-Landry
C-Hawes
Kings rule! (They are royalty - right?)
This is probably the lineup I would like after Cisco gets healthy.
Possibly switch Donté for Omri’s better rebounding/shooting.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Did you omit the rebounding stat from your analysis?
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I don't think it needs to be an 8-man rotation as much as it just needs to be the same every game, but I will play along
Evans
Casspi
Greene
Landry
Hawes
Beno
Cisco
Thompson
Now, I think Westphal could play at least 9, or even 10, as long as it was the same amount of minutes at the same time of the game every game. Here is my 10 man rotation:
Starters:
Evans
Casspi
Greene
Dorsey (just to start)
Hawes
Bench:
Beno
Cisco
Nocioni
Landry
Thompson
Split time pretty even for 3 quarters, finish with Evans, Landry, and whoever is playing well. Most likely 4th quarter line-up:
Evans
Cisco
Casspi
Landry
Thompson
Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut
Westphal already realized Garcia is a stiff
(PG) Evans
(SG) Udrih
(SF) Casspi
(PF) Landry
© Hawes
(SF / PF) Greene
(PF) Dorsey
© Thompson
Don’t know what to do about subbing for Evans with Udrih starting with him, but I do know The Kings’ best chance of winning is with Udrih and Evans playing most of the game together. I guess Garcia can play PG, but he’s never been a consistent player. Thompson is a lady in distress in the paint. Greene has the most promise at PF. Evans is a better PG than he would be a SG.
after 2 games and no practice all season?
Cisco may be ‘stiff’ from that, but he is no stiff.
by VenomySnicket on Feb 23, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
Mine
PG- Evans
SG- Garcia
SF- Casspi
PF- Landry
C- Hawes
Bench – JT, Udrih, Greene
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
I'd have gone that way if I thought Cisco was ready for more than 20 minutes.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 23, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
I can see that
And I could probably be convinced to swap out Garcia. I think JT, Udrih, Garcia, and Greene all give some flexibility off the bench, so the 2-spot is where I’m least concerned with who starts.
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
Its why I went with Casspi there
He could use the work learning to guard 2s . . .
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 23, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
I think that is an excellent point.
Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut
I'd still go that way
and just limit his minutes as he gets healthy, and increase them gradually.
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Reke, Cisco, Greene, Landry, Hawes
Omri, JT, Beno, Dorsey
Omri & Beno want to score. They can do that off the bench.
JT thinks he can score but Landry really can.
Hawes can play high post & facilitate the offense while Landry plays the low post
Cisco can defend, handle the ball some & hang out in the corner waiting for the pass
Donte can defend the SF very well
I love beating dead horses.
mine is
PG-Evans
SG-Garcia
SF-Greene
PF-Landry
C-Hawes
bench:
Casspi
Thompson
Beno
and if you could add a 9th player to the bench, I would love to see Taser get some minutes…I loved him last year with Washington. I don’t know why you would play Ime instead of him
Phil Jackson, after treatment for a kidney stone "When the anesthesiologist leaned over me, he said "We named your kidney stone Kobe because it's not passing."
My Line up
PG- Evans
SG- Casspi
SF-Greene
PF- Landry
C- Thompson
bench:
Beno
Garcia
Hawes
by The Guy on the Couch on Feb 23, 2010 12:51 PM PST reply actions
FYI: Your starting lineup is exactly the same as the one listed in the Bee, by Sam Amick
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Although I fear the potential lack of rebounding...
NaPG – Evans
SG – Donte
SF – Omri
PF – Landry
C – Hawes
Bench — Beno/JT/Garcia
Tyreke and Omri are above average rebounders for their positions.
Our best rebounding lineup would probably something like Tyreke, Omri, McGuire, Dorsey, JT. Not a lineup I’d really ever want to play.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
True
…this is not to say that I would rather start others on our roster over these guys for better rebounding. I mostly fear the potential lack of rebounding against other teams in the league.
Although Hawes’ rebounding is decent at best, as is Landry’s (although I could see his rebounding rise in a starting role). Donte’s never rebounded well at SF, although I wonder if his rebounding might do better as a SG.
How Bout this Rebounding Linuep
PG-Evans
SG-McGuire
SF-Landry
PF-Brockman
C-JT
Kings rule! (They are royalty - right?)
mine
PG-Evans
SG-Garcia
SF-Greene
PF-Landry
C-Hawes
bench:
Udrih
Thompson
Casspi
"I'm too weird ta live but much too rare ta die"
Line-up...
Starting:
PG – Evans
SG – Greene
SF – Casspi
PF – Landry
C – Thompson
Bench – Hawes, Beno, Cisco
Yours is very close to the "probable starters" listed in the Bee, by Sam Amick
except the Sam has Casspi as SG and Greene at SF.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
When Garica is healthy
Reke/Garica/Greene/Landry/Hawes
Beno/Casspi/Thompson
I initially had Thompson starting, but this looks more balanced.
Here It Is!!!
STARTERS:
Evans
Udrih
Greene
Landry
Thompson
Bench:
Garcia
Casspi
Thompson
you might want to check your work
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 23, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
He just wants
All JT all the time that’s all! hehe
by OrangeLazarus on Feb 23, 2010 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
Same as mine
If you substitute “Hawes” for one of the Thompson Twins.
STARTERS:
Evans
Udrih
Greene
Landry
Hawes
Bench:
Garcia
Casspi
Thompson
!!!
Hahah Thompson Twins! Damn I wish we could get some GIF’s up in this…
by OrangeLazarus on Feb 23, 2010 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
Here it is...
Hawes
Landry
Casspi
Udrih
Evans
Thompson
Greene
Garcia
Was somewhat torn about starting Hawes over JT, but figured whoever was playing the best would get the most minutes.
We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no one's been.
my 2 cents
Starters:
Udrih
Evans
Greene
Thompson
Hawes
Bench:
Landry, Casspi, Garcia
(This is based on who are most fit to provide a spark off the bench.)
Dunking Dutchman
Tomroadrunner's backseat driver fantasy goes as such:
NaPG: Evans
NaSG: Udrih
SF: Casspi
PF: Landry
C: Hawes
Bench Players (still with significant minutes):
6th: Thompson
7th: Greene
8th: Garcia
"Thou must give props" - Ice_9ine
My reasoning:
Evans and Beno trade off for 30-35 minutes each much like they did early on. Casspi is about as pure SF as you can get in my mind, I don’t like him at SG at all. Landry gets big minutes at PF, can spend time at SF if you’re in a pinch. Hawes is our pivot, playing out of the high post.
Thompson can eat minutes and bring energy at the 4 or the 5. Greene can spell at the 3 or the 4, also the 2 if you’re in a pinch. Garcia can spell the 2 or the 3.
As far as the PG position goes, since we have so many wings, Reke and Beno can trade off on running the point when the other one is resting. But I’d like the majority of their minutes to be spent together, because I think that they have a fairly symbiotic relationship with each other.
"Thou must give props" - Ice_9ine
by tomroadrunner on Feb 23, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
Nice
Although my pics are different, I can see this situation working. Good stuff with good reasoning.
by OrangeLazarus on Feb 23, 2010 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
A little tweak...
Just going from a “I want to see some wins damnit” perspective at the expense (maybe not) of Casspi
PG – Tyreke
SG – Donte Greene
SF – Noce
PF – Landry
C – Hawes
With:
Casspi, JT and Beno getting several minutes.
PG- Evans
SG- Cisco
SF- Greene
PF- JT
C- Hawes
Beno, Landry, and Casspi off the bench, with the caveat that a starter doesnt need to play 35 min with the excpetion of probably Evans, playing time being 20-30 min each depending on matchups and effectiveness. But no 4 mins and done.
then use Udoka and Noce when needed.
Evans
Cisco
Casspi
Landry
JT
Bench -
Beno
Hawes
Greene
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
...
Why only eight men? I don’t see what’s wrong with a ten-man rotation…twelve is too many, but ten should be fine, and you can occasionally leave one of the ten out if they don’t fit in a particular game (like Dorsey in Phoenix).
Starters
Evans
Garcia
Casspi
Landry
Thompson
Bench
Udrih
Greene
McGuire
Dorsey
Hawes
No PT
Nocioni
Udoka
May
Brockman
Hughes
This is really difficult to do with three players that just joined the roster, as we don’t really know what we have in them. For example, I was impressed with McGuire on Sunday, and would like to see how he does for the rest of the year. Brockman is redundant with Dorsey on the roster; Dorsey is actually a better defender, which makes Jon a permanent benchie. Udoka is basically a less athletic McGuire, but a little better fundamentally (but way older). May isn’t a part of this team’s future.
"custer’s battle plan at little big horn was more coordinated than deandre jordan" ~ lchristmas
Because those are the rules
Don’t like it? go make your own fanpost. :)
The eight man rotation does not say that other guys won’t play. It just says that your top eight guys get the bulk of the primary minutes.
The top four teams in the NBA (L*kers, Magic, Cavs, Nugs) all sport rotations where 7-8 guys gobble up the bulk of the minutes. We are certainly not those guys, but it appears that 8 guys is that sweet spot where team effectiveness and satisfied core of players meet.
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Cisco and Donte
Tyreke
Cisco
Donte
Landry
Thompson
Hawes
Beno
Casspi
Udoka (i know that’s 9, but he should play depending on matchup)
+1
Would love to see Donte swing between the 3 and the 4. Downside: Nocioni languishing on the bench.
by ttylerbballcamper on Feb 23, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions
Right
Unfortunately, I think it’s time we all accept that Noc is the new K9. He is an untradeable player that should not be playing for this team. It sucks, but he’s just a roster/cap clog. Not everyone may agree with me, but I think him getting minutes is of no use to this team.
Taking into consideration who's left on the team
and what their true positions are my lineup would be:
Center: Hawes
PF: Landry
SF: Omri
SG: Tyreke
PG: Beno
Backup Center/PF: JT
Backup SF/PF/SG: Donte
Backup SG/PG: Cisco
Backup SG: Ime
Backup PG: Tyreke
Tyreke has hit the rookie wall and needs rest. Let Beno carry more of the load.
If we hadn’t traded away half of our guards, I’d never play Donte at the SG.
If we had another decent backup PG or another starting SG, I’d start Tyreke at PG and only play him 20 mpg there. and another 14 mpg at SG.
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The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
Is eight enough?
Starters:
Beno
Evans
Greene
Landry
JT (This is because I think Hawes has been playing better, and his contributions off the bench will be needed)
Main Bench Rotations:
Cisco
Casspi
Noc
Hawes
Spot time:
Brockman/Dorsey
Udoka
"If you told him to head-butt the wall, he would do it." -- Paul Westphal re: Brockness Monster.
Or you could go with this, and watch hilarity ensue:
Start:
Dorsey
Brockman
May
McGuire
Udoka
Bench:
Noc and the Ghost of Larry Hughes
"If you told him to head-butt the wall, he would do it." -- Paul Westphal re: Brockness Monster.
by PhutureKings on Feb 23, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions
People would get hurt. We would lose every game. But we would definitely be
remembered.
"Thou must give props" - Ice_9ine
by tomroadrunner on Feb 23, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions
hmm
Center: Beno
Power Forward: Hughes
Small Forward: Hawes
Shooting Guard: Brockman
Point Guard: Tyreke
Bench:
Dorsey
Shareef
Coachie
Jim Eyen
Honestly, we’d probably have similar results.
Starting Lineup
Reke Beno (unless Cisco is ready to start) Omri Landry & Spence. Bench: Cisco, Donte, and JT. Play Udoka, Noc, May, Dorsey as you need to.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Think Cisco has the chops
to be a Christie-esque defender at the 2? I considered starting him at the 2, but went with Beno instead.
We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no one's been.
I think Reke does.
Cisco can play better defense than Kevin could though.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Yeah, because Beno is a much better defender than Francisco. Ha!
Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut
He isn't (obviously)
But that’s not why I went with Beno.
We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no one's been.
Starting-
PG Tyreke
SG Green
SF Casspi
PF JT
C Hawes
Bench-
PG Beno
PF Landry
SG/SF Garcia
Like this lineup for youth development for the rest of the season. Very young starting 5, hoping they get PT and mature fast, I think they have the most upside and could benifit the most from the minutes. And we have a very productive 3 man bench to fill the gaps.
If I wanted the best lineup for results now… might be more like
Beno/Reke backcourt with Casspi, Landry, Hawes…. and JT, Green, Garcia bench
Kwill's Lineup
Starting:
PG – Tyreke
SG – Omri
SF – Donte
PF – Landry
C – Spence
First 3 off Bench:
Jason
Cisco
Beno
I've got gas - yea, i'm enviromentally friendly
I wouldn't mind seeing
Starters:
Evans
Udoka
Casspi
Landry
JT
Bench – 3
Green
Hawes
Udrih
Sub in DrockMan, Noce, Garcia, McGuire, May as needed.
Coach Paul has 28 games to play the new guys – Dorsey, McGuire as well as Landry – and teach styles and match ups to Evans, Casspi, Green, Hawes and JT. This is not 28 games left to try and go all out for wins. These guys need on the job training. Rookie team, new coach – what is needed is, yes, you know it, I am going to say it, it needs to be said, here it comes.. patience (the patience preacher has spoken). Losing sucks, everyone hates it, but this team needs learnin’ not routinin’. Play everyone as he sees fit, not to be second guessed. As usual – when winning he is the genius chemist, when losing he is the mad professor. Patience, please.
No Cisco?
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 23, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions
mine
reke
udrih
landry
thompson
hawes
superior rebounding
landry can play the three
me, now, ME!
Starting five:
Evans
Udrih
Casspi
Landry
Hawes
Next three:
Thompson
Greene
Garcia
Lower their expectations and rise to met them
My Lineup
Starting Five:
Beno Udrih – PG
Tyreke Evans – SG
Donte Green – SF
Jason Thomposn – PF
Spencer Hawes – C
NeThrext e:
Francisco Garcia
Omri Casspi
Carl Landry
your starting five plus towels
I predicate this on the belief that Evans has to have someone who can handle the ball and bring the ball up the court at times and help run the offense.
Evans
Garcia or Beno
Casspi
Landry
JT
Pookey would be first off the bench with the towels
by noreboundsnorings on Feb 23, 2010 2:57 PM PST reply actions
My Kings rotation
Starting line-up:
C: Spencer Hawes
PF: Carl Landry
SF: Donte Greene
SG: Francisco Garcia(when fully healthy)
PG: Tyreke Evans
Bench rotation:
6th: Omri Casspi
7th: Jason Thompson
8th: Beno Udrih
My Take
Starters
PG: Tyreke Evans
SG: Beno Udrih
SF: Omri Casspi
PF: Calr Landry
C: Spencer Haws
Bench mob
1st: Donte Green
2nd: Jason Thompson
3rd: Francisco Garcia
Though i think a legit Bench mob would have at least 4 maybe 5 guys who can step on the court and contribute. In which case I would add either Udoka or Mcguire and the Brock-ness Monster.
serious...
without reading anyone else's
starters
Reke
Casspi
The Show
Clandry
JT
2nd unit
Hawes
Beno
Cisco
Udoka
Brockman
probably in that order.
by Rickyflip on Feb 23, 2010 3:18 PM PST via mobile reply actions
My rotation
Start:
Beno
Tyreke
Omri
Landry
Hawes
First off the bench:
JT
Donté
Cisco
Rationale- When you have Beno and Evans share the two guard spots, we have better ball movement. Landry is the best PF we have, Casspi is a natural 3 with bonus rebounding to make up for the lack in other players, and Hawes brings more outside shooting and passing from the high post. JT and Donté play well together, have tons of energy and Greene and Garcia can both play and defend multiple positions.
The biggest problem with the lineup is that we have no back-up guards anywhere on the bench except for maybe Cisco, so you’re looking at a 3-man rotation at the 1 & 2 spots.
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by LeaguePassAddict on Feb 23, 2010 3:23 PM PST reply actions
"Eight Men Out"
PG – Reke
SG – Casspi
SF – Landry
PF – Thompson
C – Hawes
Beno
Greene
Cisco
Sound the trumpets, Raise the drawbridge, and drop the Oldsmobile
by Balky Needs on Feb 23, 2010 3:25 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
+1
This lineup needs to at least be tested out.
"I hate all sports as rabidly as a person who likes sports hates common sense."
-H.L. Mencken
Udrih drives, Evans scores, (everyone else defends)
PG – Udrih
SG- Evans
SF- Nocioni
PF- Landry
C- Brockman
Casspi
Thompson
Hawes
I'm not going to follow the rules
PG – Tyreke
SG – TBD (drafted or FA)
SF – Omri
PF – Landry
C – Hawes
B1 – Thompson
B2 – Beno
B3 – Donte
I’m not sold on Donte, Beno, or Cisco as my SG so I’m not picking any of them. I realize I just went with a 4-man team but hey if Hoosiers can do it, so can Sacramento.
However, I know that’s cheating so for this year I’ll go with:
Tyreke, Beno, Omri, Landry, Hawes with JT, DG, and Cisco following.
chicken shit
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 23, 2010 5:46 PM PST up reply actions
A little harsh LTTG
I did actually post my selections below my apparant chickenshitedness. I fail to see your issue with my post quite frankly. I do not think that anyone on our current roster is suitable to start at SG for a winning Kings team. I realize this team isn’t winning anything, but I would like more a pure shooter at SG (and I am not talking KMart here).
Care to explain?
by Mityt on Feb 23, 2010 8:40 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I'm a newbie so no one probably cares:
Starters:
PG – Tyreke
SG – Garcia
SF – Donte
PF – Landry
C – Hawes
Bench:
Beno
Casspi
JT
Here is mine:
Starters:
PG Beno
SG Tyreke
SF Greene
PF Landry
C Spencer
Bench:
Garcia
Casspi
Thompson
Other:
Noc
Brockman
Dorsey
Maguire
Udoka
I’ve noticed my starting lineup matches with both Biscuit and Lodisacfan.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Not too many variations really
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
Noticed that too!
For the most part here is how most of the lineups seem to be put together:
Tyreke is a constant at either PG or SG
Next Beno or Cisco
Next Casspi or Greene
Next Landry
Next Spencer or Thompson
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Late to the party but here's mine
Reke
Casspi
Donte
Landry
Hawes
w/ JT, Beno, and Cisco off the bench. Ime and Noce next up
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
Here it is:
pg: Evans
sg: Casspi
sf: Greene
pf: Landry
c: Thompson
Reserves: Hawes, Beno, Garcia
After that: Brockman, Udoka, etc., etc., etc.
Purveyor of Bull Plop
I guess it depends
And therein lies the rub.
If you want to give the youngest players the most experience, Nocioni won’t make the cut and Garcia might not either. If you want the team to grow but still be the most competitive, Nocioni will be a part of your first 8.
Naturally if you expand that to 9 or 10, you can have it both ways.
Starters:
Tyreke
Beno
Hawes
Landry
Casspi
Subs in order of PT:
Donte
Garcia
Nocioni
JT
Udoka
That’s part of the problem: too many players with similar abilities. I’d love to see a deal moving four promising players for a star or at least starter and two scrubs in the offseason.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 23, 2010 7:18 PM PST reply actions
not sure why more people aren't interested in seeing Tyreke start at 2
for a while … just cause he can play point doesnt mean he has too and this is a perfect toss off year to decide which he’s more comfortable at.
so Ill say: Beno, Reke, Casspi, Landry, Thompson
and for another interesting starting squad Id like to see: Reke, Casspi, Noce, Landry, Thompson—that’s a line-up where everybody can rebound and you’ve got a few good shooters and some muscle inside.
If Spence would become consistent, Id have to reconsider Landry coming off bench.
Good lord!
From the 100+ replies and different versions of starting line-ups, it’s no wonder why everyone on the Kings believes they’re confused.
i like, i like...
everyone has their reasons to start who where and for what reason but there’s so many different line-up because there’s a lot of play for the KINGS to use different people at different positions for situations. one is because they’re young and so you could put someone in a position where they could eventually get comfortable. but this is my take:
evans, casspi, greene, brockman, hawes.
udrih, garcia, noc, landry, thompson.
i’d start evans at the 1 because that will be his role for a long time and he needs to get comfy there. why casspi at the 2? because greene is NOT a 2 guy!! he’s a 3-4 and only situational in certain schemes where he has to guard strong guards such as bryant, roye, johnson, iguodala, et cetra, where he could help stop and defend them for certain plays. then brockman at the 4 because the starting lineup needs a big who can push the other starting teams bigs without touching the ball too often. then we have hawes there to help spread the floor because most teams bigs are usually in the paint and hawes could help open the floor; that’s why brockman is in there to help rebound.
the second unit must have a ball handler that’s why udrih is there at the 1. at the 2 we have garcia who’s also a decent handler and he could help stop smaller guards because he’s versatile in that way. at the 3 we have nocioni. he’ll be tough here and he’ll definitely dominate other second stringers 3 and 4 positions if needed. landry is better suited comin’ off the bench as he’ll also dominate second tier guys which will be the spark the KINGS needs off the bench and he could also help more in the rebounding department. and at the 5 position we’ll have thompson who’s a little quicker than most 5’s second tiers and he’ll help rebound as well.
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