Preview: Pistons at Kings
THE SCOUTING REPORT
The unstoppable HighTops:
It’s only been two weeks since we beat Detroit 103-97. In that time the Pistons beat the Spurs without Tony Parker, 109-101 in OT, and they beat the Twolves 108-85. That’s a lot of points for a team that’s ranked 29th in scoring and only averages 92 ppg, especially when you consider that they only attempt an average of 13 three point shots per game and only made about 4 per game. A team that’s 28th in FG%, dead last in 3P%, and 27th in FT%, 26th in Fouls, and 28th in Blocks, and still they have a better record than the Kings. How can that be you ask? Defense and Ball Control.
The Piston’s are 10th in fewest turnovers per game, they are 7th in fewest steals allowed, and they are 3rd in rebounds allowed. So, when their shooters get hot, they win games. And, so far in February, Detroit is putting up season highs in PPG, FG%, 3P%, and Assists. Which means Richard Hamilton 19.8 ppg, Rodney Stuckey 15.1 ppg, and Tayshaun Prince 13.6 ppg, are having a good month. The same 3 guys who lead the Pistons in scoring with 54 points in our last game.
The Pistons are eight games behind in the loss column for the final playoff spot in the East with only 27 games remaining. Which isn’t bad considering the amount of injuries they had early in the year. Tayshaun Prince and Rip Hamilton experienced multiple injuries that cost them a combined 59 games in the season's first 41 games. But, the Pistons are finally healthy, and have gone 5-4 in February. Allowing John Kuester to settle into a nine-man rotation with Charlie V, Ben Gordon, Jason Maxiell and and Will Bynum coming off the bench. So, even though the Pistons are 1-9 on the road against the West, they believe they can win most if not all the games on this trip.
The Pistons had been hoping to get someone like Carlos Boozer to shore up their front line, and were willing to use either Richard Hamilton or Tayshaun Prince as trade bait. But with the Jazz playing their best basketball in years, Utah had no interest in breaking up the team. So, the Kings will be playing the same team as 2 weeks ago, while the Pistons will see the new Kings without Martin who was the leading scorer in the last game.
The Pistons win or lose on their long jumpers. They actually take and make as many shots from 16-23 foot range as they do at the rim. And, they take as many 10-15 foot jumpers as 3pt shots, which is about 13 per game. For Detroit, offense is a team activity and not an individual one. So far in February, 58.6% of all their made baskets at the rim were assisted, 62.9% of all their made baskets from 16-23 foot range were assisted, and 100% of their 3pt shots were assisted. Giving Detroit’s shooters an open 16-23 footer is like giving Wallace an uncontested shot at the rim. Slightly overstated but you get my meaning, don’t leave jump shooters to double in the paint. The best way to limit scoring down low, is prevent the entry pass in the first place. If Wallace gets the ball down low, the Hack-a-Ben is in order. Wallace shoots only 43% from the FT line, and Maxiell shoots around 58%.
The Kings didn’t exactly dominate Detroit in the last game. Detroit actually got to within 3 points 95-92 with 2:19 left in the 4th. And, the game really wasn’t out of reach until Evans stole the ball and broke away for a dunk with 30 seconds left. But, if it weren’t for the Kings bench, lead by Beno with 22 pts, outscoring the Pistons’ bench 44-28 we would have lost.
The Kings also lost the battle on the offensive boards and committed 5 more turnovers which lead to the Pistons getting 10 more FG opportunities. If it wasn’t for the poor shooting of Hamiton 5-18 and Stuckey 4-13, and Gordon 0-8 the King would never have been in the game. Greene started at PF and had 0 rebounds, with Brockman and May combining for 1 rebound in 10 minutes, so we should see an improvement on the boards with Landry starting at the 4 and it should be interesting to see how he does against the rookie Jerebko. Tyreke, Beno, and JT had a combined 11 turnovers ( 1 less then the entire Pistons team), and that must stop, especially the unforced ones.
Hawes and JT combine for 11 pts and 20 rebounds in 27 minutes each, and hopefully will continue to improve along side Landry. Omri had a below average game and hopefully will get more than 6 FGA’s now that Martin is gone. The big questions are who will replace Martin’s scoring, and which of the new players will suit up and get PT. It might be Cisco who joins Hughes and Brockman on the inactive list. I fear he came back too soon to help out the team when Martin departed. And, injuring his hand in the Clippers game, and sitting out the Suns game has me really really worried.
Both teams are a game and a half out of 14th place in their respective conference. Detroit is experienced and plays good defense. The Kings are young, energetic, and are one of the highest scoring teams in the league. The old adage that defense wins championships might be true, but in the battle for the basement, I’ll take the Kings and a powerful offense.
THE KEY BATTLE
Tyreke Evans vs. Rodney Stuckey. No surprise here -- the best King against Detroit's catalyst. While each team has big scorers elsewhere, if this matchup is lopsided, you can reasonably expect the battle winner to have the victory.
BOLD PROCLAMATION
Carl Landry will draw polite if distracted cheers from section 203. (I have no idea why I'm picking on section 203.)
DETAILS
7 PM PT. Two game threads (7 and 8:15) and a post-gamer (9:45).
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Scouting Report Game Keys:
Spencer had a great game against Detroit, and it’s time to start our only true center. With Landry going against the rookie Jerebko, I expect Carl to do even better than he did against Amare. It’s time for the 3 man Big Rotation, we’ve all been wishing for all season. If Wallace gets position down low front him and stop the entry pass. And if he still gets the ball we have 18 fouls to give.
I don’t know how many minutes Cisco can give us, or even if he can play at all. Stuckey is no push over for Tyreke, so there’s no advantage in playing him at PG over SG. He is tiring so I’d give Beno major minutes at PG, and let Cisco, Ime and Greene play more SG, so Evans can rest until he relieves Beno at the point.
Omri and Noc can handle the SF position, but if either starts to put up shot before the bigs set up to rebound, I’d yank them send them to the end of the bench until the end of the game.
Defensively, Wallace and the rests of the Pistons bigs do not create their own shots. Try not to give up good position of course, but the key is contesting the entry pass. They live off assisted baskets. Charlie V likes to shot away from the basket, when he has the ball, you need to get into his chest, he won’t drive around you. We can not leave the perimeter shooters. Stay with your man and contest every shot, if they get by you, trust your teammates to rotate and help stop penetration. On pick & rolls, the man defending the screener has to come up quickly and jump out to stop the ball and let the PG recover.
This will not be an easy win. We haven’t scored over 100pts in 4 straight games. And, Detroit is a better team than their record implies, while that might not be the case for the Kings. The Kings need to get out to a quick start offensively and defensively, and make the Pistons play catch up. The Kings are 5-7 in games won by 3 pts or less. I think they’ll be 6-7 after tonight. Go Kings.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
by HighTops on Feb 23, 2010 2:16 PM PST reply actions 9 recs
rec'd wonderful stuff Coach HT
The Pistons had a nice performance from Stuckey and I expect to see more of the same. I halfway agree with TZ – the Pistons will win if Stuckey sticks out. Evans is so consistent and predictable the Kings will only be dependent on him if it comes down to a last second shot.
I am concerned about Will (the Trill?) Bynum. Quick small guards, particularly combined with Stuckey may be too much for Beno and Co.
The other area of concern is the Kings shooting. If the Kings start making shots – Landry, Beno, Green in particular they can outscore Detroit. The firepower has been only smoke for too much of the last 20 games – if the Kings go on another extended scoring drought they will lose (but Noce will play).
Bold Proclamation: Donté will try and go 3 in a row on 3’s – and go 1-4. Dorsey will come in and body up Ben Wallace real good like and scowl real mean like.
by betweentheeyes on Feb 23, 2010 2:25 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Thanks to you and bte both, for the kind words
I take great pride in doing this for TZ and you guys, and it’s great to hear that you guys find it interesting. It makes the time that I put into it worthwhile.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
Bold Brocklamation
Jon Brockman will wear a tattered and syrup-stained T-shirt to the game, and no one will have the cajones to tell him to put on a suit.
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Feb 23, 2010 2:48 PM PST reply actions
Is that Donte fouling Kevin Bacon?
"And I never said I don’t like KMart. I just don’t think the duo is good for the team. They are essentially two of the same player"
Sammyp831.
Sorry my mistake
JT fouling Kevin Bacon.
"And I never said I don’t like KMart. I just don’t think the duo is good for the team. They are essentially two of the same player"
Sammyp831.
Kings of 1999
I have many old Kings game recorded from 1999-2006 for my personal entertainment and I just watched a game from January 4th, 2000. The Kings beat the Cavs that night and I was SHOCKED to see how many possessions the Kings had where they started the offense by getting the ball into the POST!! I counted about 30 posessions that either started, ran through or ended up with a player posting whether it be Webber, Divac, Corliss or Funderburke It was amaziing the see the floor spread and when the double team came, J-Will, Anderson, Peja and the other players would move to open spaces for the pass.
Not only did they go into the post on most half court offensive situations but when they did, they either scored a bucket or got fouled about 75% of the time! When they didn’t go through the post on an offensive set, they scored or got fouled only 33% of the time.
I didn’t count the times where J-Will or Barry came down and launhed a three or any fast break shots. I always remembered us complaining how they never went into the post to Webber in Divac enough and yet over 2/3 of the time they had a half court set, they went through the post. It seemed very effective too.
I will be keeping an eye on the game tonight and see how many post ups the Kings get, how well they space the floor, how well players move off double teams and if they score on those post ups.
Kings rule! (They are royalty - right?)
by dalt99 on Feb 23, 2010 2:51 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
By the way
I’m not saying that the post up player himself scored about 3/4 of the time but that the team scored because of going through the post and setting up other players or causing the defense to have to work after the post up. Man, I forgot how well Webber could handle the ball with those big hands and now fluid that team was.
Kings rule! (They are royalty - right?)
nice
very interesting
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 23, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
So you're saying we should try to hire Rick Adelman as our coach?
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Feb 23, 2010 3:37 PM PST up reply actions
I just realized
(because I’m slow)
How consistant Evans is on his scoring. A very dependable 17 -24 pts per game. Rarely does he score more or fewer than that.
That should say something about what we need from the rest of the offense, what Tyreke needs to get out of the rest of the offense.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
Bold proclomation
Westphal will continue to tinker with the rotations, resulting in Mario Elie entering the game at the 6:53 mark of the 3rd quarter.
SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!
by section214 on Feb 23, 2010 3:29 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
And registering 3 steals and 11 points shooting 4-5 from the field, 3-4 beyond the arc
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Feb 23, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
You going tonight section?
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 23, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
Landry better play well or Wifey is going to be madder than ever about Martin.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 23, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
BaZingGa, good shot, Sorry lttg but I had to laugh
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
All wives think their husbands are mentally weak sooooo
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 23, 2010 5:22 PM PST up reply actions
But she doesn't like it soft
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 23, 2010 5:24 PM PST up reply actions
There's a pill for that. As to the meatally weak, I have no answer, but 'Yes, Dear"
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
Bold proclomation
Tyreke rekes havoc for 30 points! Lets Go Kings
You know what I really love, I really love the Lacoste Sport Sweat suit man. The one that looks like the orange that's the same color as fruit loop orange! Houses like clovers, houses like clovers whatever that man says! Twinkle, Stars, Diamonds, Emeralds. We got every color bruh! It's fu@#in crazy man. This fool walked up to me the other day, and was like blood, where did you get them at yo? What, you made them? I said, man we don't make nothin man! We don't make nothin man. We just make your girl give h%@d. When she sees these on sight. She never thought they come in size twelves man. I wear size twelves man!
He needs to
if he wants to hold off Steph Curry.
No Curry needs to keep doing what he is doing
to pass Tyreke. Curry has had a good couple of months, but Reke still has been good since November. Even as he has hit the wall a bit, he manages to put up around 20 points and usually at least 4 boards and 4 assists.
Casspi
I feel it’s Casspi’s night for some reason. I hope Landry plays well at home too.
Kings rule! (They are royalty - right?)
I keep on waiting for Casspi to break out
I really believe he has the talent.
"I hate all sports as rabidly as a person who likes sports hates common sense."
-H.L. Mencken
He's very talented
….hope all of his fans haven’t been too much of a distraction for him.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Sergio is getting some burn right now
For those who have league pass waiting for the Kings game to start.
yup, 18 points, 6 assists, 5 boards, 2 steals and a block (a block!) against the celtics.
The Dude abides
by SlowJoe445 on Feb 23, 2010 6:33 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
for your sig.
"I hate all sports as rabidly as a person who likes sports hates common sense."
-H.L. Mencken
He making the Kevin Martin trade for the Rockets look bad.
I’m happy for Sergio.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Also with
McGrady already having a breakout game, Sergio doing what he is doing against the Celtics, Hell even Bill Walker is shooting well, and all the new cap space. Did the Knicks just get the best of the three way deal?
I'd wait a bit
before making a re-evalv of McG.
"I hate all sports as rabidly as a person who likes sports hates common sense."
-H.L. Mencken
Bill Walker
He is a guy to watch. Don’t be surprised if he becomes a player someday in the NBA to watch. As long as his knees hold out..
Kings rule! (They are royalty - right?)
No Hawes tonight
Have a fanshot up about it. PW not happy about his comments on the Bee
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims

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